So my parents house got burgled last night..

[RiverDave]

I went to lunch with my parents, afterwards stopped at Home depot with my old man to buy some tile for the river house. My mom went to a Dr's appt, and then headed home in the afternoon. She walked into the house from the garage and noticed the kitchen window (faces backyard) was open and the screen was off. She was originally going to make a phone call, but she turned around and walked back out of the house and went to a neighbors. Cops showed up SWAT style (no shit) and surrounded 2 sides of the house (house backs up to a canyon) and then they went in through the next door neighbors backyard as well etc.. etc.. Some poor guy was there doing a home inspection (house next door is for sale) when the cops came steam rolling through and scared the holy beeezus out of him.. LOL

They tossed my parents closet and some other stuff.. (opened all the drawers and dumped them) Fuckin cheap skates didn't even bring their own bag for the loot. They took a pillow case off the guest bed to haul the jewelry etc.. They made out with a bunch of cheaper jewelry, and we're not 100% sure what else.. I know they made off with my extra set of keys to my truck that I used to keep there and... ??? In any event something that was kinda weird is they found some fire arms in the closet, and they had them all laid out on the bathroom floor? The rifles had those little cheezy locks on the zippers, but when I saw the way they left them it was just kinda spooky? I dunno.. Being they got interupted and now know the lay out of the house what are the odds they come back for the stuff they missed? Who knows.. :( I got my dog over there and my mom would like to get a security system, preferrably something with cameras.

RD

[RitcheyRch]

Oh man that sucks. Did the cops get any fingerprints?

[Lewiville]

dog is a good idea. Im glade I have Happy because she sleeps by my bed and during the summer I leave my bedroom door open so im not runing my AC 24-7. She is a Yellow lab and can hear anything. She is also a good protector for the kids.

Sorry to hear about that. I've been robbed before and i know the feeling. Invasion.

[RiverDave]

Oh man that sucks. Did the cops get any fingerprints?

Guys were wearing gloves... who brings gloves but no bag for the loot? :D Bastards..

RD <---- wants the pillow case back

[beaverretriever]

Guys were wearing gloves... who brings gloves but no bag for the loot? :D Bastards..

RD <---- wants the pillow case back

OJ? :rolleyes:

[RiverDave]

OJ? :rolleyes:

:D Indeed... Anyone know where he was yesterday afternoon?

RD

[beaverretriever]

:D Indeed... Anyone know where he was yesterday afternoon?

RD

F-N bastard gets around huh?


Oh, btw, sorry to hear about your parents getting ripped off. :mad:

[Mrs.Racer277]

That is scary....I am glad to hear your mom got OUT. We have a corner house...I think about that happening to us all the time. Especially since Sean is gone alot. I have my psycho dog so that helps.

[TBI]

That sucks Dave, glad your folks didn't walk into it while it was in progress.

[Flyinbowtie]

Dave;

FWIW;
This sounds sorta different than the usual tweaker type 459 artists, based on what you've posted here and over on HB. Tweakers don't usually lay guns & stuff out in places to pick them up on the way out. They trash, grab money and things they can sell, and haul ass.
I think these suspect(s) are more of the journeyman type thiefs, or perhaps a band of local kids doing business on their way home after school, or other kids that attend the alternative school deals.
Broad daylight 459er's know a place they hit well enough to be aware of what cars are visible when the people are home, or other evidence that leads to the same conclusion. The cops may be working other capers where the crooks are coming in from the back of the canyon you described.
The A/V surveillance idea is cool, but I'd think about getting the folks an alarm system with a loud audible ringer. These tend to keep all but the super pro types out, and make 'em all run if the ringer goes off. Check the local cops to see if they have any restrictions on alarms, setting the folks up with a dialer alarm to a central system like Brinks might be worth the $, for the peace of mind if nothing else.
Your description of your mother's reaction is typical and understandable. She is dealing with not only someone being in her home and violating her personal space, but perhaps coming close to a face-to-face encounter with the crooks who did it. This ain't an easy deal, and will take time for her to get over.
Watch for your Dad to come to terms with this. Right now he is in a bit of denial/shock, and he will at some point react to it in his own way.
In 1988, after a huge fire up here, I finally broke down and bought a gun safe, a large one that is fireproof and weighs about 900 lbs empty. I was worried that a fire would come through the area when I wasn't home more than I was worried about a burg. For me, the value in dollars and family heirlooms in that safe made the $ well worth it.
Sorry to hear this.

[TPC]

Every time your mom walks into the house the tape will play in her mind of the robbery.

Sorry this happened.
One feels so violated,, ripped off is an understatement.
Hard to get over.

Hope ya find a good system,, and this is behind you guys soon.
Glad your mom is OK.
Items can be replaced.

[Flyinbowtie]

Every time your mom walks into the house the tape will play in her mind of the robbery.

Sorry this happened.
One feels so violated,, ripped off is an understatement.
Hard to get over.

Hope ya find a good system,, and this is behind you guys soon.
Glad your mom is OK.
Items can be replaced.

When I was a wet-behind-the-ears rookie back in '80, one of my old-timer FTO's told me that a burglary in a home becomes a date stamp on the timeline of the victim, just like a birth or death in the family, when trying to remember when some other event happened, narrowing it down the question always comes up, "Was it before we got burged, or after?".
He was right.

Damn shame, for sure.

[RiverDave]

FBT, I have a question for you... Needless to say my dog has taken up residence over there as a comfort for my mom until we get the alarm(s) put in place. I went over there at lunch to take her for a walk, and as I was driving back I got a glimpse of something that made my heart sink..

2 guys about 700' away painting a gate (storage yard for toys for a neighboring community) black wearing latex gloves.. Needless to say neither one of them looked very stand up to me (both were white, but white trash is an understatement). I found where the burglers initially entered the yard etc.. (You could see broken branches in the bushes) and they started on the back of the house trying to get in, then moved around to a part of the front of the houes that's still shielded by bushes from others view. After no windows were unlocked etc.. they came back and broke the kitchen window.

Long story short, here's to unscrupulous looking characters 750' away (down the road / canyon) kinda half ass painting a gate, wearing latex gloves.. If it was in fact them they could've boned out through the backyard, through the canyon and been right back at that gate inside of 5 minutes, with a purpose to be there.

I realize it's kind of a long shot to say the least, but do you think I should tell the cops to see if they would question them? For some reason that I couldn't describe when I saw them I just got that feeling that... Those are the two f'ers that did this.

RD

[Nord]

FBT, I have a question for you... Needless to say my dog has taken up residence over there as a comfort for my mom until we get the alarm(s) put in place. I went over there at lunch to take her for a walk, and as I was driving back I got a glimpse of something that made my heart sink..

2 guys about 700' away painting a gate (storage yard for toys for a neighboring community) black wearing latex gloves.. Needless to say neither one of them looked very stand up to me (both were white, but white trash is an understatement). I found where the burglers initially entered the yard etc.. (You could see broken branches in the bushes) and they started on the back of the house trying to get in, then moved around to a part of the front of the houes that's still shielded by bushes from others view. After no windows were unlocked etc.. they came back and broke the kitchen window.

Long story short, here's to unscrupulous looking characters 750' away (down the road / canyon) kinda half ass painting a gate, wearing latex gloves.. If it was in fact them they could've boned out through the backyard, through the canyon and been right back at that gate inside of 5 minutes, with a purpose to be there.

I realize it's kind of a long shot to say the least, but do you think I should tell the cops to see if they would question them? For some reason that I couldn't describe when I saw them I just got that feeling that... Those are the two f'ers that did this.

RD

It wouldn't hurt. Maybe the cops could ask them if they saw anything and feel them out.....

[Flyinbowtie]

RD hell yes!

Get a plate if you can off the rig they are in, get decent physical descriptions of them, see if mom and pop remember if they were working in the area yesterday as well. Call the cop working the case with the info! Don't confront them, let the cops do some digging into their whereabouts in the past couple of days and see if they're other capers.

Good observations...

Protect that point of entry you discovered if there are decent shoeprints and get the cops to take some pictures of them if they didn't catch it themselves. Good evidence if a suspect(develops as well).

[Phat Matt]

Was your mom planning on cooking hamburgers for dinner that night?























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[RiverDave]

Got the license plate, and I'll check out the footprint action when I go over there after work.

RD

[H4Poohbah]

Sorry to hear this RD, I'm very glad ur Mom didn't walk into anything unpleasant; outstanding call on Neva. Be careful Rockford.

[Angry Inch]

What kind of pillow case? I just bought this one from ebay. Maybe it was yours? :D

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[SandbarScot]

My first post on your board Dave.

As you probably remember, I'm also LE. You didn't mention if the guns laid out were all long guns or if there were any pistols. If the suspects were on foot or bicycle (as teenage burglars usually are) they would have had to leave long guns and only taken what they could carry on them. Also, everything FBT said is 100% true to my experience.

Scot

[angiebaby]

When I was in high school, I was always the first one home. One day I came home through the front door, heard the slider in my parents room open. Funny, I don't remember where I called the police from. I think I called from our house. I don't remember going to a neighbor. :confused: I was a dumb kid. They left the pillowcase with the cameras on the bed, hopped the back fence and headed back to the nearby construction site. They caught the guys through the pawn shop and my dad's class ring. I understand your mom's feelings. Strange men had been in our house to take our things, even in my room. I had a hard time sleeping for a few weeks. I'm just thankful they left rather than realizing a 15 year old girl had walked in the house. That could have been bad.

Sorry your parents had to go through that. I can't believe the cops came so quick! Thankfully, they didn't get the firearms.

[Eazykiller]

sorry to hear about this, it is awful !
hope the catch them!

[RiverDave]

So you guys will love this.. LOL

My mom doesn't really feel "safe" anymore (nothing to tramatic she can live with it, just uncomfortable).. So she wanted cameras put up and an alarm put in.

My old man as of today "There will be no alarm on that house, it's just one more damn thing I have to do when I want to leave and come home"

LOL... Old man says no alarm, no alarm it is.

Not quite sure what to do about all that? Don't want my mom to feel uncomfortable, but pops kinda put his foot down about the whole thing?

RD

[Flyinbowtie]

Sounds like son Dave is the one stuck between a rock and a hard place here. I don't envy you this one at all. I've seen some new ADT ad on TV that shows a customer activating the alarm with a keychain remote. Maybe Dad would be cool with something that simple.
Anything new from the cops?

[DeltaSigBoater]

Sounds like son Dave is the one stuck between a rock and a hard place here. I don't envy you this one at all. I've seen some new ADT ad on TV that shows a customer activating the alarm with a keychain remote. Maybe Dad would be cool with something that simple.
Anything new from the cops?

I was going to mention the same thing, but I think don't think an Alarm System is going to happen at the house!

[RiverDave]

Sounds like son Dave is the one stuck between a rock and a hard place here. I don't envy you this one at all. I've seen some new ADT ad on TV that shows a customer activating the alarm with a keychain remote. Maybe Dad would be cool with something that simple.
Anything new from the cops?

Nope... I was meaning to tell you story # 2 on this cluster fock..

So I get the license plate # of that car that was suspicious. Cruising back by my parents house I notice a cop sitting about 40' away from their house writing tickets on the newly installed stop signs on their street. (1 directly in front of their house) I get a better look and it's my neighbor the cop (Sean). His location to me is directly across the street, walk out of my garage door, across the street and into his garage door kinda deal. I don't really know the guy other then the occasional "wave" here and the "hows it going." Once he had a bunch of stains in his driveway and I gave him a big bottle (30 - 40 dollar bottle) of simple green to help him get them off..

So I tell him what's going on, he immediately says "Give me the plate # and I'll run it" kinda taking on the "I'm gonna help you out" role.. He runs the plates, proceeds to tell me that even though he has hte plate # it's gonna take awhile etc?? Asked what kinda car it was, and then told me becuase it's a common name it takes awhile to cross reference? Noticed the guy hasn't paid his registration in 2 years etc.. etc.. So he said he'll let me know, I goto my parents house (40' away) and he shows up there a few minutes later to talk. We talk for a bit my parents come home (we all live within a mile of each other) he's talking to them for a bit.

Now get this.. While this guy is sitting in front of my parents house, talking to me, supposedly running this guys plate etc.. etc.. He's also running MY PLATES!

When I walked inside to let the dogs in, he was sitting there by himself for all of 10 seconds so he figured he'd run mine as well? WTF? When I walked up to the patrol car the 2nd time I started laughing becuase there's my plate # on his screen. I didn't tell him I saw it, but I think he knows..

WTF is wrong with people nowdayz?

RD

[Flyinbowtie]

Geezus.
Make sure the plate gets to the cop(s) actually working the burg. This neighbor working a traffic unit in the hood isn't a burglary detective, if ya get my drift.
The plate coming up expired that long makes it towable on the spot.
Unfortunately, if it is the crook, the car has probably been bought/sold through a couple of cycles with people not bringing the paperwork up to speed.
Now, if the cops sees it on the road, and it is expired, and they do decide to tow it for fees, most agencys have policy that requires the cop to do an inventory search of the vehicle. Perhaps there will be some stolen property in it, or the owner will be on probation, etc.
I don't want to sound too optimistic, but honestly this sounds like a case with some decent leads...
Running a plate takes only a couple of minutes. The traffic cop is right that it takes longer to square up and owner and car to run the car.
But not that much longer.
Running your plate makes no sense to me whatosever, unless he forgot your name, :rolleyes:

[RiverDave]

Geezus.
Make sure the plate gets to the cop(s) actually working the burg. This neighbor working a traffic unit in the hood isn't a burglary detective, if ya get my drift.
The plate coming up expired that long makes it towable on the spot.
Unfortunately, if it is the crook, the car has probably been bought/sold through a couple of cycles with people not bringing the paperwork up to speed.
Now, if the cops sees it on the road, and it is expired, and they do decide to tow it for fees, most agencys have policy that requires the cop to do an inventory search of the vehicle. Perhaps there will be some stolen property in it, or the owner will be on probation, etc.
I don't want to sound too optimistic, but honestly this sounds like a case with some decent leads...
Running a plate takes only a couple of minutes. The traffic cop is right that it takes longer to square up and owner and car to run the car.
But not that much longer.
Running your plate makes no sense to me whatosever, unless he forgot your name, :rolleyes:

Ya know that didn't occur to me, but he very well might have? LOL. I just walked up to him and read his name tag (S. fjdklsafjsl) so I said Your name is "sean" right? (guessed) and he said yes.. Wouldn't surprise me if he couldn't remember my name and was trying to get it?

RD

[rvrgirl]

Our Neighbors house in Parker got broken into about 2 weeks ago.
They took a couple of TV's and a VCR/DD player. That’s about all.
Didn't even touch all the alcohol on top of the refrigerator. Which is kind of surprising. Our house next door only had one of the window covers taken off. We were lucky.

[ROZ]

Ditto the words of the guy who said to give the cops the plate of the painter dudes..

coincidence? Not over there....

[Baja Big Dog]

Yep...alarm system, they are pretty cheap nowadays, you can get your own wireless system pretty cheap, and have it call you if there is a problem, instead of the alarm co.
Set on up for the cuz, had his shit broken into twice in three weeks, we hooked up a motion sensor to his truck shell, so it pages you if some scum breaks into the back, no cops called, no cops needed!!!!:D

[RiverDave]

Yep...alarm system, they are pretty cheap nowadays, you can get your own wireless system pretty cheap, and have it call you if there is a problem, instead of the alarm co.
Set on up for the cuz, had his shit broken into twice in three weeks, we hooked up a motion sensor to his truck shell, so it pages you if some scum breaks into the back, no cops called, no cops needed!!!!:D

Got any brand names I can look up on the internet? Especially with the wireless remote deal? (I like the car alarm style of it)

RD

[Ziggy]

Consider visual deterants to both appease your mother for some extra security feeling and your dad for not really having an alarm.
Alarm signs, fake cameras, etc. are inexpensive deterants.
.
Sorry your parents had to go thru this :o

[RiverDave]

Consider visual deterants to both appease your mother for some extra security feeling and your dad for not really having an alarm.
Alarm signs, fake cameras, etc. are inexpensive deterants.
.
Sorry your parents had to go thru this :o

I think that's the route we're might end up taking.. I'll probably go around the neighborhood and steal a few ADT signs.. :D (Joking)

RD