out of the ground

[whiteworks]

building a small house in wrightwood. 27 yards poured today, its all fun and games now.

[angiebaby]

Awesome! Keep posting as it progresses.

[Ari]

where's wrightwood?

[Flyinbowtie]

Ari don't hold me to this cause it has been at least 35 years, but I believe it is up in the mountains out of Banning(?) I remember going deer hunting up there with my father once when I was about 12-13 years old.
It was a nice little town back then, I remember lots of A-frame cabins, and not much else.
I remember thinking how far away from "town" it seemed. Of course, this was when Banning was one stop light on a non-freeway, a couple of gas stations and a Dennys or some such place, and that was it.
Back in those days, passing through San Bernadino was the end of civilization, or so it seemed to me as a little kid.

Whiteworks, looks like work to me. Gettin' the mud poured before the weather sets in and ya get to muck out the forms three or four times alwas makes life easier.

[whiteworks]

wrightwood is halfway up the cajon pass and then back in the mountains a little ways. there was a little snow on the ground when we arrived this morning. should be a fun project 1500 sqft. attached garage 12 and 12 roof with a loft.

[OCMerrill]

wrightwood is halfway up the cajon pass and then back in the mountains a little ways. there was a little snow on the ground when we arrived this morning. should be a fun project 1500 sqft. attached garage 12 and 12 roof with a loft.

Highway 138 go left about 20 miles.

Looks great. Post more pics as it goes along. Us contractor types like that shit.:D

[Baja Big Dog]

Whens the house warming party??

[RiverDave]

White Works, are you building this house for yourself? Or do you build custom homes?

RD

[whiteworks]

RD, I am a contractor, this house is being built by my freind Doug "he's a contractor to". His first spec home "the plan" or maybe his first home to live in for a while "the back up plan". Small house but custom and quality. He is in a position to keep the house and live in it if it does not sell for the right price around 375k we will see what happens. right now is a hard time to build and sell for profit and I am doing everything in my power to make sure this project goes smooth for him. we will be doing all of the work to keep the costs down and profits up. if this house sells its game on. right now its looking like we have another house to build in wrightwood for a customer in the spring.

[whiteworks]

rough plumbing is done an framing is getting there

[Parker Dreamin]

great progress.

[RiverDave]

I shoulda hit ya up for help on my remodel!!! LOL Holy shit that thing is going up quick! :)

RD

[RVRKID]

Ari don't hold me to this cause it has been at least 35 years, but I believe it is up in the mountains out of Banning(?) I remember going deer hunting up there with my father once when I was about 12-13 years old.
It was a nice little town back then, I remember lots of A-frame cabins, and not much else.
I remember thinking how far away from "town" it seemed. Of course, this was when Banning was one stop light on a non-freeway, a couple of gas stations and a Dennys or some such place, and that was it.
Back in those days, passing through San Bernadino was the end of civilization, or so it seemed to me as a little kid.

Whiteworks, looks like work to me. Gettin' the mud poured before the weather sets in and ya get to muck out the forms three or four times alwas makes life easier.

I believe you are talking about Idylwild, that is up from Banning.

[whiteworks]

I shoulda hit ya up for help on my remodel!!! LOL Holy shit that thing is going up quick! :)

RD

hows the remodel coming along? I'm down to give you a hand with it! You buy the beer, I'm sure we could have your place finished in a couple of years:beer

[whiteworks]

here are some new shots

[RiverDave]

hows the remodel coming along? I'm down to give you a hand with it! You buy the beer, I'm sure we could have your place finished in a couple of years:beer

I think we'll be done in 3 - 4 weeks at this point. :) (Not including paint)

The paint we'll just do a room or 2 every couple of weekends. I just bought a pretty nice Viking built in BBQ that I'm giong to have to build an Island for, so I might hit ya up for some technical advise from that stand poitn. :D

RD

[RiverDave]

here are some new shots

Where are the new shots?

RD

[whiteworks]

I had to downsize the files they were not loading worth a shit. the house is moving right along. Its turning into a pretty cool little house. building a BBQ island should not be to crazy. Steel stud structure covered in hardibacker type material. then you can cover that with what ever you want( stucco, flagstone, tile, brick, rock, stainless. I think this might be the place for the concrete countertop. what would you like it to be?

[RiverDave]

The house looks like it's turning out bitchen! Definately going up fast!

building a BBQ island should not be to crazy. Steel stud structure covered in hardibacker type material. then you can cover that with what ever you want( stucco, flagstone, tile, brick, rock, stainless. I think this might be the place for the concrete countertop. what would you like it to be?


I'm not sure yet, I'm going to finish what's going on inside, and then make figure that out. Probably won't get on it until after the new year. I gotta put the boat back together and make sure it's ready for next season (priority # 1 after the house)

The steel frame won't be a problem though. I can cut that all up and my buddy can weld it up for me. I like the idea of the concrete counter tops! Definately something to think about while I'm designing this thing in my head over the next 2 months.

RD

[whiteworks]

The steel frame won't be a problem though. I can cut that all up and my buddy can weld it up for me.

RD

steel studs = no welding, just zap screws and tin snips kind of like an erector set when you were a kid.

[RiverDave]

steel studs = no welding, just zap screws and tin snips kind of like an erector set when you were a kid.

Oh.. I was kinda thinking Steel square tubing, like .125 thick 1 inch squares, and just building a frame like you would for a sand car etc.. except just square angles becuase it's a BBQ kinda deal. Then bolting everything to the frame?

RD

[whiteworks]

this weeks progress

[Eazykiller]

Ari don't hold me to this cause it has been at least 35 years, but I believe it is up in the mountains out of Banning(?) I remember going deer hunting up there with my father once when I was about 12-13 years old.
It was a nice little town back then, I remember lots of A-frame cabins, and not much else.
I remember thinking how far away from "town" it seemed. Of course, this was when Banning was one stop light on a non-freeway, a couple of gas stations and a Dennys or some such place, and that was it.
Back in those days, passing through San Bernadino was the end of civilization, or so it seemed to me as a little kid.

Whiteworks, looks like work to me. Gettin' the mud poured before the weather sets in and ya get to muck out the forms three or four times alwas makes life easier.


dang dude how old are you?

[whiteworks]

Progress as of January 2. the last of the ridge cap went on today:beer this sum bitch is dried in and not a moment to soon (heavy rain in the forcast). the rough plumbing is done and topped out, the rough electrical is done.

[squirtnmyload]

thats a sweet house!!

[Rexone]

Very cool. When I was a kid we had a cabin there, spent quite a bit of time there. Cabin is on the northwest corner of Elm and Irene. It used to be natural cedar. Then someone painted it red. :fsakes


Your house looks very nice. :)

[Tom Brown]

...I believe it is up in the mountains out of Banning...

Someone mentions banning and Rexone comes out of the woodwork.

[Rexone]

Someone mentions banning and Rexone comes out of the woodwork.

That does it you've pushed me over the edge. I'm going to ban the first 25 screenames I come across. :hotdevil

It seemed to get an arousing response last time someone did it. :D

btw WW is no where near Banning. It's due north of Claremont-Upland area over the San Gabriels right on the LA-SB county line. 15-20 miles north of my house but have to drive an hour to get there, go figure. :p

[Tom Brown]

For some reason, when Jbb throws down infraction after infraction on my ass, we all think it's funny.

.... but when a Hitler impersonator bans a couple of dozen people.......... not so much.

[Rexone]

For some reason, when Jbb throws down infraction after infraction on my ass, we all think it's funny.

.... but when a Hitler impersonator bans a couple of dozen people.......... not so much.

How many infractions are you up to here Tom? Also just what is an infraction and what is it's purpose? I think you need some on the other site just for good measure. :)

[JBB]

How many infractions are you up to here Tom? Also just what is an infraction and what is it's purpose? I think you need some on the other site just for good measure. :)

All the best...:p

[Tom Brown]

How many infractions are you up to here Tom?

I forget if it's 4 or 5.

There are three sitting in my User CP right now. :D


Also just what is an infraction and what is it's purpose?

An infraction is a mechanism by which moderators can make themselves feel more important than non-moderators.


I think you need some on the other site just for good measure. :)

:D

[Tom Brown]

..... make that 6.

[Rexone]

An infraction is a mechanism by which moderators can make themselves feel more important than non-moderators.:D

Tom this is right up my alley. I'm going to look into it immediately.

It complements the whole asshole theme like peas do to carrots.

All the best.

Sort of.

[whiteworks]

thats a sweet house!!

Brian this is Dougs house that we talking about at the catalina race.

[Riodog]

Rexie and Tom, why don't you two just get a room and resolve your differences once and for all.

Some of us more reserved, normal members don't appreciate all of the drama and dissension that you two thrive on.

Rio

[Infomaniac]

Dude that is awesome !!!

We are building a lake house right now. 12/12 roof also.

Insulation going in today. Plumbing, electrical and heat/air all roughed in.

What a pain in the ass building a custom home. Too many choices.

[Tom Brown]

Some of us more reserved, normal members don't appreciate all of the drama and dissension that you two thrive on.

You're too late to make post of the year for 2007 but you've got some good headway in 2008 on giving me blurred vision from laughing so hard.

Cheers, Rio. :D

[whiteworks]

Its been a while since I posted any progress of the house. Things are moving right along. We have actually had a decent winter, but hasn't slowed things to much. The windows and doors are in now and the siding is up. HVAC system is being installed now. There is a house across the street being built right now as well, both houses were started at the same time but it looks like they may have screwed the pooch over there. The last photo in this post is of the house across the street, hope it works out for them. There was a 2 week setback, Doug decided to lock it down and take his wife and 2 year old to Hawaii for 2 weeks (its good to be the boss). It snowed and rained the whole time they were gone, good call.

[LuckyStrike]

Hey Dyl Will Ya Take My Boat As A Down For A New Pad :hmm

ALSO sorry to fall a sleep @LA and miss the Festives...Tough to get Old And keep up with You Kids:D:beer

[whiteworks]

Hey Dyl Will Ya Take My Boat As A Down For A New Pad :hmm

ALSO sorry to fall a sleep @LA and miss the Festives...Tough to get Old And keep up with You Kids:D:beer

how big of a house are you thinking?

[LuckyStrike]

how big of a house are you thinking?

3000+ with a guest house and RV/toy garage

[whiteworks]

3000+ with a guest house and RV/toy garage

Sherylle's gonna love this, hey Babe see you in 8 months.:D I really dont know how I could swing it, being in so far and all. but let me run it by the boys and see what we can figure out. Do you have plans and a site yet?

[LuckyStrike]

Sherylle's gonna love this, hey Babe see you in 8 months.:D I really dont know how I could swing it, being in so far and all. but let me run it by the boys and see what we can figure out. Do you have plans and a site yet?

looking @5 acres in RioVerde NE os Snottsdale

[Photo Chick]

What a cool thread....thanks for posting. My dad built our family cabin with his friends in Big Bear. He started the year I was born. I only have a few pictures of it being built though. It would be neat if we had an entire log of it like this!!!
Be sure to post summer pics too!!

[whiteworks]

Its been a while since I posted on the wrightwood project. There were some scheduling setbacks (6-8 weeks) due to the fire sprinkler guy dropping the ball:swear, Doug taking his pregnant wife and little girl to Hawaii for 2 weeks:beer, and pregnant wife having a beautiful baby girl:D. Everything is going full speed again:D exterior is painted, drywall is hung, textured and painted. lights, switches and plugs are terminated for the most part. tub and shower pan are set and ready for tile. The stone work in the living room (wood burning stove area) is done. things should start coming together pretty fast from this point:D there is a shot of the neighbors project (stand still) I think they ran out of talent and luck at the same time:( sherylle and I took a drive up on Saturday to take a peek and shoot a few shots of the progress.

[whiteworks]

more pics:thumbsup

[whiteworks]

more pics:thumbsup:thumbsup

[whiteworks]

a few more

[rlemn8r]

Way cool house whiteworks, looks real nice..

[djunkie]

Nice work Whiteworks. I'm biting at the lip already to do an addition on my house but I want to sub it all out. I can do most of the finish work myself. I was quoted $300/ sq. ft. by a contractor a month ago. And hes a friend.:eek::eek: Is it really that expensive nowadays?
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[Yellowboat]

wrightwood is halfway up the cajon pass and then back in the mountains a little ways. there was a little snow on the ground when we arrived this morning. should be a fun project 1500 sqft. attached garage 12 and 12 roof with a loft.

Sounds perfect... when do I move in?

[Yellowboat]

Nice work Whiteworks. I'm biting at the lip already to do an addition on my house but I want to sub it all out. I can do most of the finish work myself. I was quoted $300/ sq. ft. by a contractor a month ago. And hes a friend.:eek::eek: Is it really that expensive nowadays?

300/ft is not unheard of.

[whiteworks]

Nice work Whiteworks. I'm biting at the lip already to do an addition on my house but I want to sub it all out. I can do most of the finish work myself. I was quoted $300/ sq. ft. by a contractor a month ago. And hes a friend.:eek::eek: Is it really that expensive nowadays?
Doesnt sound like he likes you very much;) for $200 a foot I;ll drive down there and build you what ever the fuck you want finished with some really nice shit. if you look in my home tour thread you will see what $900. per foot will get you.

Sounds perfect... when do I move in?

should be turn key by august:D we'll leave the light on for you;)

[Yellowboat]

Do you have any floor plans?


I want to build something about that size in southern OR some time next year.


That is as soon as I get the fooker that parked a moble home on the land and hooked up all the uniltys...

[whiteworks]

Do you have any floor plans?


I want to build something about that size in southern OR some time next year.


That is as soon as I get the fooker that parked a moble home on the land and hooked up all the uniltys...

I dont own the plans, they belong to my friend Doug. If your interested I can put you in contact with him and you guys can talk about it:)

[whiteworks]

also, this house could easily be made much larger. instead of leaving the vaulted ceiling over the kitchen/living room you could put a floor and have another room. as well the garage attic area could be another room to. It would take a little bit of modification to the original set, but you see where I'm going with this. I really like the dramatic effect of the vaulted ceiling, IMO it adds a lot of character to a smaller mountain house

[Flying_Lavey]

Thats pretty nice Dylan! Since Im such a dork when it comes to my trade Im kinda curious, How did you get the air into the vaulted ceiling area? A nice house like that I would think it would have some really nice air distribution in there.

[Wombat]

:thumbsup

Well done, looks like good workmanship.

Have a couple on me.:beer

[djunkie]

Doesnt sound like he likes you very much;) for $200 a foot I;ll drive down there and build you what ever the fuck you want finished with some really nice shit. if you look in my home tour thread you will see what $900. per foot will get you.



Now your talkin. I actually wanna do some of the work myself. To save money obviously but also cause I enjoy stuff like that. Most of the finish work I can do. For instance, hanging the drywall (although I'll pay someone to tape and sand it :D), the baseboards and moldings, fixtures, bathroom plumbing, yada yada yada. I'd mostly need most of the rough construction done, like the foundation, framing etc.
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[69 1/2]

Wow! Beautiful little home but I just can't believe the values! I am back in the process of building a 3,000 ft. two story and am screaming about $110 per foot with a three car garage! That does not include the lot but it is 14,000 square feet on a 9 hole golf course for $60k. What drives the price of a 1,500 square foot home to $375k? Is it a ton of land? Does it cost that much all over the Southwest?

[DaveC]

Nice project:thumbsup

[angiebaby]

That turned out gorgeous! I love the siding on the gables. When I was 8 we moved to Oregon and my dad built our house in the foothills of the Cascades. We camped in it for a long time, and that first winter was sure cold! Good times, though. :thumbsup I was going to go up there and see it this summer, but, you know, fuel, so we have to skip it. :rolleyes:

[TeamGreene]

Looks good! Its nice to know that someone is actually still building homes around here:beer

[whiteworks]

Thats pretty nice Dylan! Since Im such a dork when it comes to my trade Im kinda curious, How did you get the air into the vaulted ceiling area? A nice house like that I would think it would have some really nice air distribution in there.

we ran ducts where we could, also raised foundation;)

Now your talkin. I actually wanna do some of the work myself. To save money obviously but also cause I enjoy stuff like that. Most of the finish work I can do. For instance, hanging the drywall (although I'll pay someone to tape and sand it :D), the baseboards and moldings, fixtures, bathroom plumbing, yada yada yada. I'd mostly need most of the rough construction done, like the foundation, framing etc.

IMO your better off to get a GC to come and handle the whole deal and stay out of the way. trying to save money by jumping in the middle of a construction project doesnt always work so well. more times than not I have seen this concept end up costing more than if the homeowner had let the GC do there thing.

Wow! Beautiful little home but I just can't believe the values! I am back in the process of building a 3,000 ft. two story and am screaming about $110 per foot with a three car garage! That does not include the lot but it is 14,000 square feet on a 9 hole golf course for $60k. What drives the price of a 1,500 square foot home to $375k? Is it a ton of land? Does it cost that much all over the Southwest?

Its Southern California. The dirt is expensive. Is it worth 375K? only if someone will pay it. I am not even sure the house is going to be listed when its complete.

Looks good! Its nice to know that someone is actually still building homes around here:beer

pretty crazy huh. ;)

[Yellowboat]

Now your talkin. I actually wanna do some of the work myself. To save money obviously but also cause I enjoy stuff like that. Most of the finish work I can do. For instance, hanging the drywall (although I'll pay someone to tape and sand it :D), the baseboards and moldings, fixtures, bathroom plumbing, yada yada yada. I'd mostly need most of the rough construction done, like the foundation, framing etc.


thats why he qouted you 300/ ft :D

Unless your in a trade or want to clean up after the crews have left, your better off staying out of the way.

[Roman 1]

Looks good D. :thumbsup

R1

[whiteworks]

Just about wrapped up:D here is a step by step of the stair case, I showed up and was given a stack of lumber and told to make it look bitchen. Enjoy, I know enjoyed the process and IMO the end result shows it.:beer

[whiteworks]

final stairs shots:D

[whiteworks]

more

[Yellowboat]

You guys planing on setting the natural pine color or are you just going too seal it and let it yellow?

[whiteworks]

more

[whiteworks]

You guys planing on setting the natural pine color or are you just going too seal it and let it yellow?

Just seal it and let it do its thing, Its a cabin/house hybrid theme:D

[whiteworks]

kitchen and baths and exterior shot with garge door.

[wishiknew]

PRIDE in your work and it shows!!!!!!

[Yellowboat]

Just seal it and let it do its thing, Its a cabin/house hybrid theme:D

I just don't like that yellow look...



On a side note I take it that wall behind the wood stove was per code?

[whiteworks]

PRIDE in your work and it shows!!!!!!
thanks
I just don't like that yellow look...



On a side note I take it that wall behind the wood stove was per code?

I agree on the finish, but it was not my call. The stone wall was code, if it was my call I would have done the whole wall and side wall in river rock. On this project there was a tight budget to adhere to and my 2 cents were not wanted because I'm known as the "budget killer";) all in all the place is really sweet and the budget came in exactly where it was supposed to:D

My next project has an unlimited budget:D 2.5 acre 11,000 sq.ft here is a sneek peek, hopefully have it done by the end of this year;)

[Yellowboat]

My next project has an unlimited budget:D

Now thats the jobs I like. :thumbsup

[whiteworks]

I just got word that the bank has accepted an offer on the unfinished house across the street:D (mentioned the house earlier in this thread) It looks like this thread will continue, both houses were started at the same time, the one across the street was a spec started by a builder who wiped out:( anyways my friends aunt had been looking for a house in the area and things just kind of lined up. The house is 3500 sq.ft. framed, sheeted, windows and doors, and paper on the roof. We will now finish the house to her specs:) I will definitely do the finish work in the spring and might jump on board for the whole deal. This is almost like a remodel since a lot of stuff is already done, but some things will need to be changed. I have no idea what she wants the house to look like but lets just say I have a few suggestions on a couple of things;) Coastal Construction making it happen in the mountains:beer

[ellabo]

absolutely killer whiteworks:thumbsup

fantastic job:beer

[ocbam4u]

When do you think you will get it done.

[whiteworks]

When do you think you will get it done.

I'm guessing your referring to the one across the street, Still working on getting the title cleared up for the purchase. There are some leans from material suppliers of previous owner. We will see how this deal works out in time, should take 6-8 months once the ball gets rolling.

[ocbam4u]

Let me know when your ready for windows. I'm the Rep for Pella

[whiteworks]

Let me know when your ready for windows. I'm the Rep for Pella

The windows are already in this place. Can you PM me your contact info for future projects. Pella is pretty good stuff, how are sales holding up for you guys?

[whiteworks]

Well the deal went through on the bank repo across the street. My last project just ended and I have decided to jump on board with this one. Let me tell you it is fucking cold up there it snowed yesterday so I ditched, but it was arctic today. The good part is you really don't stand still to much so productivity is pretty high. There is some stuff that is wrong with this place but nothing that cant be fixed. We had to drywall some of the exterior walls (fire code 30' from structures or 15' from property line). We decided to bag off the drywall because a storm was brewing. this week we are doing the siding and hope to get the exterior buttoned up. Here's some pics

[whiteworks]

few more

[whiteworks]

some interior shots

[snake321]

Love those green shingles. Gonna run them on my house one of these days....

[whiteworks]

I've been slacking on this thread, this place is getting there. We should have it pretty well wrapped up by August. I found another house in the area that someone lost there ass on. It is a little further along than this one was, so there may be a #3 (if I can find a buyer first). If any one is interested you will end up with a brand new mountain home finished to your specs and save a shit load of money. The house pictured here should have around 200K in equity when all is said and done.

[whiteworks]

:D

[whiteworks]

:thumbsup

[whiteworks]

In case anyone is wondering how these deals are getting done (you know with the shitty economy) this picture explains it all, see that whiteboy setting tile. That is the general contractor on this project. If anyone wants some straight up prices on quality work now is the time.