Schiada motor almost done!

[SFV2RVR]

Just came back from the shop today, after bringing steve (schiada06) some more fittings for the motor, and this is what its lookin like! We should be dropping the motor in this weekend if evrything goes well!

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo1.jpg

[RiverDave]

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing it out on the water!

What stut angle, gears, prop are you starting out with? Predicted HP on the motor?

RD

[SFV2RVR]

Very cool. Looking forward to seeing it out on the water!

What stut angle, gears, prop are you starting out with? Predicted HP on the motor?

RD

Strut i believe is 7* the gears are 39's(might try some 45's) and I have a SS 3 blade 11 1/2 x 15, and a RB 12 x 15. I will probably run 10-15lbs of boost, so I hoping for about 900hp with race gas.

[River Lynchmob]

That's looking really good.

[SFV2RVR]

Thanks! I cant wait for next month to get here.:beer

[RiverDave]

Strut i believe is 7* the gears are 39's(might try some 45's) and I have a SS 3 blade 11 1/2 x 15, and a RB 12 x 15. I will probably run 10-15lbs of boost, so I hoping for about 900hp with race gas.

did you change the strut angle in the boat? Or was it originally rigged like that? (What year was it rigged / built?)

RD

[SFV2RVR]

did you change the strut angle in the boat? Or was it originally rigged like that? (What year was it rigged / built?)

RD

It was built in 79, so im pretty sure it was the original rigging. Im assuming that was the original strut angle too. I could be wrong though!

[djunkie]

Is that Schiada a river tunnel? Motor looks sweet. :beer:D
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[SFV2RVR]

Is that Schiada a river tunnel? Motor looks sweet. :beer:D

No, its a river cruiser. Oh & thanks!:D

[SFV2RVR]

Just came back from imco. Got the exhaust done, and going to get it all polished up!

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo5.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo7.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurboExhaust.jpg

[River Lynchmob]

Very cool. You'll definitely be seeing the water before I will. Congrats.:thumbsup

[mbrown2]

Very nice....so is the hatch going to cover it all up?

[River]

I think he'll end up needing these...

[SFV2RVR]

Very nice....so is the hatch going to cover it all up?

I will find out this thurs, as its going to designer marine in corona.

[SFV2RVR]

I think he'll end up needing these...

Your probably right! I might end up rockin it with no hatch for the summer depending on what its gonna cost to make a new one, or modify my current one. We shall see.:smackhead

[River]

I will find out this thurs, as its going to designer marine in corona.


You mean LaveyCraft? :D:D They bought Designer and they have moved (to LC).

Given how much of a raise your bench seat has, you might be able to pull the vinyl off your existing hatch, cut two holes for the carbs and then recover. Ross can make you two little hatch jobs like on Jeff's boat and your good to go. Motor is still pretty low with your setup.

Run the hatch. Getting all the water spots off is a biatch...:D

[RiverDave]

Coming together bitchen SF2RVR!! :)

RD

[SFV2RVR]

You mean LaveyCraft? :D:D They bought Designer and they have moved (to LC).

Given how much of a raise your bench seat has, you might be able to pull the vinyl off your existing hatch, cut two holes for the carbs and then recover. Ross can make you two little hatch jobs like on Jeff's boat and your good to go. Motor is still pretty low with your setup.

Run the hatch. Getting all the water spots off is a biatch...:D

The motor was moved forward an 1 1/2" too, so the hatch will have to be extended. I'm not that worried about not running the hatch or the water spots, cause the girlfriend cleans the interior and motor, so it should keep her busy for a while!:rolleyes::D

[River Lynchmob]

You mean LaveyCraft? :D:D They bought Designer and they have moved (to LC).

Given how much of a raise your bench seat has, you might be able to pull the vinyl off your existing hatch, cut two holes for the carbs and then recover. Ross can make you two little hatch jobs like on Jeff's boat and your good to go. Motor is still pretty low with your setup.

Run the hatch. Getting all the water spots off is a biatch...:D

You're speaking the gospel there...it sucks ass. It takes more time to clean the 21 than it does the 27 :thumbsdown

[River Lynchmob]

I think he'll end up needing these...

That is one tight looking ride. Is it one of Lee's old race boats?

[SFV2RVR]

Coming together bitchen SF2RVR!! :)

RD

Thanks!:beer I'm pretty excited its almost done!

[River]

That is one tight looking ride. Is it one of Lee's old race boats?

Your just so smart Lyncho... :D

This one. Carson did the motor.:thumbsup

[River]

You're speaking the gospel there...it sucks ass. It takes more time to clean the 21 than it does the 27 :thumbsdown

Speaking to the choir there pal... It gets OLD.;)

[River Lynchmob]

Your just so smart Lyncho... :D

This one. Carson did the motor.:thumbsup

You can always tell one of Carsons motors. No one will plumb one like him. He makes it as clean as humanly possible. Does that boat belongto a buddy of yours?

[River]

Jeff sold it two years ago. His pops bought it from Lee. He has a Connelly 300 O/B now... Went to a guy in Havasu last I heard, then got sold again?

Another one I let get away... :o

[djunkie]

Jeff sold it two years ago. His pops bought it from Lee. He has a Connelly 300 O/B now... Went to a guy in Havasu last I heard, then got sold again?

Another one I let get away... :o

Its a Parker boat now. The guy who bought it is partners with my buddy in a house on the Ca. side of the river.
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[SFV2RVR]

You can always tell one of Carsons motors. No one will plumb one like him. He makes it as clean as humanly possible. Does that boat belongto a buddy of yours?

I still have a couple more lines to plumb like the gentry housing to the exhaust, but so far I think its coming out really clean!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo13.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo12.jpg

[River]

Good money spent at IMCO. Those tailpipes came out sweet. :cool:

[River Lynchmob]

Jeff sold it two years ago. His pops bought it from Lee. He has a Connelly 300 O/B now... Went to a guy in Havasu last I heard, then got sold again?

Another one I let get away... :o

You're going to have to stop doing that...sack up and git r done!!!

I still have a couple more lines to plumb like the gentry housing to the exhaust, but so far I think its coming out really clean!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo13.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo12.jpg

The install is looking great. Can't wait to see it out on the river.

[River]

You're going to have to stop doing that...sack up and git r done!!!

Nice K1 coming next year. I've waited this long, so just one more summer...:thumbsup

[River Lynchmob]

Nice K1 coming next year. I've waited this long, so just one more summer...:thumbsup

K1? i'm lost...what's that?

[River]

K1? i'm lost...what's that?

Owner distribution...

[River Lynchmob]

Owner distribution...

Duh...I was thinking boats not finances. OK the $64,000...new or used Schiada 21?

[River]

One never knows... :D

[River Lynchmob]

One never knows... :D

Look at you keeping it all close to the vest n shit. :beer

[RiverDave]

Looking great!! Can't wait to see it this summer!

RD

[River]

Look at you keeping it all close to the vest n shit. :beer


If there is a good used one I'll buy it. Can't complain since I bought my Schiada about five years ago and it's been out about 5 times. (did the island runs with my old boss who we built the boat for)....

[River Lynchmob]

If there is a good used one I'll buy it. Can't complain since I bought my Schiada about five years ago and it's been out about 5 times. (did the island runs with my old boss who we built the boat for)....

5 times in 5 years is not boating...i'm not sure what it is but it definitely is not boating :smackhead

[River]

I have a few very good friends that help me with that department. Build some kids, start a biz and move into a new house with dirt yards. House is done (no more palm trees following me home), kids are bigger, biz is good. Our biz is 24/7, one f/u and your out. Have some super people to work with.:D

[River Lynchmob]

I have a few very good friends that help me with that department. Build some kids, start a biz and move into a new house with dirt yards. House is done (no more palm trees following me home), kids are bigger, biz is good. Our biz is 24/7, one f/u and your out. Have some super people to work with.:D

You're plate is full. I did the biz thing 5 1/2 years ago...not 24/7 just week days. I bought a rental recently and re did a lot of the interior but no wife and kids so I guess that leaves me a little more free time to play.

Well since your house is done the kids are older and the biz is good it sounds to me that you will have a lot more free time to boat this year. :beer

[River]

It's on! I'm tired of digging holes and we have a half acre. Cut me some slack Lynch.:D

[River Lynchmob]

It's on! I'm tired of digging holes and we have a half acre. Cut me some slack Lynch.:D

The place looks bad ass...after all that hard work you've earned a river weekend especially the pool.

I am affraid I'll understand all this soon enough. The rental I bought is on a little over half acre. I bought it for the land so I can eventually build a house for me on it. I hoping to do it in the next 3 years. Buying the dirt wiped me out.

[River]

The place looks bad ass...after all that hard work you've earned a river weekend especially the pool.

I am affraid I'll understand all this soon enough. The rental I bought is on a little over half acre. I bought it for the land so I can eventually build a house for me on it. I hoping to do it in the next 3 years. Buying the dirt wiped me out.

I have a lot of help for you when you need it. Not a problem.

[River Lynchmob]

Jeff sold it two years ago. His pops bought it from Lee. He has a Connelly 300 O/B now... Went to a guy in Havasu last I heard, then got sold again?

Another one I let get away... :o

I just met the guy over at Carson that bought this boat. H e says he lives just down from Bob Teague in Parker.

Oh and I just dropped off my boat to Carson...He will start bolting the motor back together on Wed.

[River]

I just met the guy over at Carson that bought this boat. H e says he lives just down from Bob Teague in Parker.

Oh and I just dropped off my boat to Carson...He will start bolting the motor back together on Wed.

Sweetness...:D

[River Lynchmob]

Sweetness...:D

He also told me that the SR22 is a sick boat. He usually doesn't give too many praises but he really likes the way this boat runs handles. The only concern he said he had was when the hatch and seat are all in, he is concerned that the motor may not get enough air.

[River]

He also told me that the SR22 is a sick boat. He usually doesn't give too many praises but he really likes the way this boat runs handles. The only concern he said he had was when the hatch and seat are all in, he is concerned that the motor may not get enough air.

Good thing you don't have a hatch... Cut some holes through the ends of the bench pedestal. That will get air into the motor without making a bunch of noise...:D

[River Lynchmob]

I still have a couple more lines to plumb like the gentry housing to the exhaust, but so far I think its coming out really clean!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo13.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/TwinTurbo12.jpg

Do you have any updated pics? I like the black fittings. It looks clean.

[Riverbound]

Do you have any updated pics? I like the black fittings. It looks clean.

He is probably to busy working on it. I know he was trying to have it done for my b-day weekend.
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[River Lynchmob]

He is probably to busy working on it. I know he was trying to have it done for my b-day weekend.

Sweet

[SFV2RVR]

He is probably to busy working on it. I know he was trying to have it done for my b-day weekend.


I talked to ross at designer marine(LC) and he was trying to have it done by thurs. but its not lookin to good. He says its lookin more like sat, which means i'll already be at the river! I'm having the new hatch made, so im sure thats why its taking longer than we thought. The good news is i'll still be at the river for RB'S b-day! :beer And I should have the boat done by the next weekend.

[River Lynchmob]

I talked to ross at designer marine(LC) and he was trying to have it done by thurs. but its not lookin to good. He says its lookin more like sat, which means i'll already be at the river! I'm having the new hatch made, so im sure thats why its taking longer than we thought. The good news is i'll still be at the river for RB'S b-day! :beer And I should have the boat done by the next weekend.

It never works out the way you want it to. But it will be done right so what's one more weekend?

[SFV2RVR]

It never works out the way you want it to. But it will be done right so what's one more weekend?

It sucks, but it will be worth the wait.

[River]

It sucks, but it will be worth the wait.

Tell Ross to hurry the hell up.:) Nice work doing the hatch, you'll like it...:D

[River Lynchmob]

It sucks, but it will be worth the wait.

It always is. I know I would kill right now to have mine done as well.

[SFV2RVR]

Tell Ross to hurry the hell up.:) Nice work doing the hatch, you'll like it...:D

its definetely more practical with a hatch, but damn I hate covering all that money I spent!

It always is. I know I would kill right now to have mine done as well.

Especially with all of this bad ass river weather as of lately. Im sure going to the races in parker this weekend are not going to help me out, watching all those boats hotrod around the river!

[Riverbound]

I talked to ross at designer marine(LC) and he was trying to have it done by thurs. but its not lookin to good. He says its lookin more like sat, which means i'll already be at the river! I'm having the new hatch made, so im sure thats why its taking longer than we thought. The good news is i'll still be at the river for RB'S b-day! :beer And I should have the boat done by the next weekend.

And the great news is...without you having your boat there you can :beer:beer:beer more
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[SFV2RVR]

And the great news is...without you having your boat there you can :beer:beer:beer more

I heard that!:drool:beer

[SFV2RVR]

Here are some pics of the new hatch, and a shot at the new dash and gauge layout w/ billet switch panel.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch5.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch3.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch.jpg

[River]

Came out nice...:D

[mbrown2]

Very nice...

[SFV2RVR]

Im pretty happy with it.:D

[River Lynchmob]

Looks sweet. Congrats

[RiverDave]

Here are some pics of the new hatch, and a shot at the new dash and gauge layout w/ billet switch panel.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch5.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch3.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch2.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e320/SFV2RVR06/SchiadaHatch.jpg

Looks Sweet Mark!!! Are you worried about lack of airflow to the motor at all? (possibly costing you HP?) Or can air go in through the sides of the pedestal for the back seat? If it's just those eyelits on the hatch, where does the blower vent out too?

RD

[SFV2RVR]

Looks Sweet Mark!!! Are you worried about lack of airflow to the motor at all? (possibly costing you HP?) Or can air go in through the sides of the pedestal for the back seat? If it's just those eyelits on the hatch, where does the blower vent out too?

RD

I think it will get plenty of air with just those eyebrows in the hatch. The blower vents out of the billet vent in front of the gas fill on the side of the boat.

[River]

I think you might need more air than that. ...

[SFV2RVR]

I think you might need more air than that. ...

what else can I do? There is not a whole lot of options. its gonna be fine!

[River]

what else can I do? There is not a whole lot of options. its gonna be fine!

You'll do great with that. You get a bit more power with the hatch off but I doubt you'll be running around above 5K all day long... Jeff's Schiada pulled harder with the hatch off but his ran fine with that setup.

[River Lynchmob]

what else can I do? There is not a whole lot of options. its gonna be fine!

I think you'll be fine, the SR22 runs pretty dame good and would draw a lot more air than your motor and it has no openings in the hatch at all.

[River Lynchmob]

You'll do great with that. You get a bit more power with the hatch off but I doubt you'll be running around above 5K all day long... Jeff's Schiada pulled harder with the hatch off but his ran fine with that setup.

Did I tell you I met the new owner of Jeff's boat over at Carons last week. The motor is all in pieces, he's putting on larger turbos and had to have a few parts made.

[Mondorally]

Jeff's Schiada pulled harder with the hatch off but his ran fine with that setup.


Any chance that is psychological? I'm sure you can hear more goin' on with the hatch off. Just wondering out loud. I know with my two motorcycles - the loud one seems faster...... but probably isn't!

-Justin

[RiverDave]

I think it will get plenty of air with just those eyebrows in the hatch. The blower vents out of the billet vent in front of the gas fill on the side of the boat.

what else can I do? There is not a whole lot of options. its gonna be fine!

I'd look to the rear seat for air.. Under the rear seat, or to the sides of the pedestal for the rear seat? Or perhaps something so simple as some billet vents in the pedestal on the front, and in the engine bay on the back. If you actually want to know is it's enough air or not, with some basic measurements I can find out for you.

All I need to know is the displacement of the motor.. Boost your running at approxmately what RPM and the opening sizes of the eyelits..

I think you'll be fine, the SR22 runs pretty dame good and would draw a lot more air than your motor and it has no openings in the hatch at all.

There was attention taken to that interior to allow as much air as possible to enter the engine bay, and it's still not enough. (Still runs harder with the hatch off)

RD

[RiverDave]

Any chance that is psychological? I'm sure you can hear more goin' on with the hatch off. Just wondering out loud. I know with my two motorcycles - the loud one seems faster...... but probably isn't!

-Justin

Not just psychological.. Just simple math, and very simple tests..

The most simplest of tests would be to put a couple of sensitive vacuum guages in the engine bay, and around the intakes of the turbo's.. If their pulling vacuum at all, then you can pick up some free HP, and faster spool times just by allowing it to breath better.

Math ;)

All I need to know is the displacement of the motor.. Boost your running at approxmately what RPM and the opening sizes of the eyelits..

[River]

Any chance that is psychological? I'm sure you can hear more goin' on with the hatch off. Just wondering out loud. I know with my two motorcycles - the loud one seems faster...... but probably isn't!

-Justin

Absolutely. Anytime I run anybody else's turbo boat I'm just about as happy as I can get:D:D Gotta love those hairdryers...

Built a hatch over my old V drive Hallet with turbos and couldn't tell the diff but this is a better motor package....

[River]

Not just psychological.. Just simple math, and very simple tests..

The most simplest of tests would be to put a couple of sensitive vacuum guages in the engine bay, and around the intakes of the turbo's.. If their pulling vacuum at all, then you can pick up some free HP, and faster spool times just by allowing it to breath better.

Math ;)

We could mess with him and tell him to face the scoops forward for better HP, Like the K boat guys...:D:D

[River Lynchmob]

There was attention taken to that interior to allow as much air as possible to enter the engine bay, and it's still not enough. (Still runs harder with the hatch off)

RD

There are no openings in the SR22. it's as tight as a drum. I talked to Carson when he rode in it without the hatch it was at 110 at 5400. with full interior it was 110 at 5700. I honestly think thats Mark's will be fine. But that's ust my .02

[Mondorally]

Not just psychological.. Just simple math, and very simple tests..

The most simplest of tests would be to put a couple of sensitive vacuum guages in the engine bay, and around the intakes of the turbo's.. If their pulling vacuum at all, then you can pick up some free HP, and faster spool times just by allowing it to breath better.

Math ;)

I think what you're saying is if the turbos are sucking the engine bay dry......... cut a bigger hole?

As a finance major I do dig the math. I once compared the total area of all the holes on my Rex mufflers - probably 40 0.5" holes versus a straight 4" to see if it was choking it up or not.....

[River Lynchmob]

Absolutely. Anytime I run anybody else's turbo boat I'm just about as happy as I can get:D:D Gotta love those hairdryers...

Built a hatch over my old V drive Hallet with turbos and couldn't tell the diff but this is a better motor package....

Thats why mine is getting no interior :thumbsup :D

[River]

Thats why mine is getting no interior :thumbsup :D

Polishing Queen...:D

[Mondorally]

Thats why mine is getting no interior :thumbsup :D

Less Hatch = More S.......

Crap, Melissa will never let me drive my 22' again!:D

[River Lynchmob]

Polishing Queen...:D

Who you callin a queen?

I'll have to hire a queen. Gene Welter had a guy that use to come over and clean the whole thing up for like $125 i'll do it most of the time but the times you may have had a little too much...i'll keep that number close :D

[River Lynchmob]

Less Hatch = More S.......

Crap, Melissa will never let me drive my 22' again!:D

Thats why you only drive it on weekends that are designated "guys weekends"

[Mondorally]

Thats why you only drive it on weekends that are designated "guys weekends"

Yeah, I'm sure to get a lot of those this summer:smackhead





















Just kidding my love! (she occasionally checks the boards:D)

[River]

Who you callin a queen?

I'll have to hire a queen. Gene Welter had a guy that use to come over and clean the whole thing up for like $125 i'll do it most of the time but the times you may have had a little too much...i'll keep that number close :D

You still working Lyncho?:D

[River Lynchmob]

You still working Lyncho?:D

Yes but getting ready to head down to have some sushi for Bill's b day.

[River Lynchmob]

Yeah, I'm sure to get a lot of those this summer:smackhead















Just kidding my love! (she occasionally checks the boards:D)

You have to be able to get at least one in...especially the one you throw together at the last min :D

[SFV2RVR]

I'd look to the rear seat for air.. Under the rear seat, or to the sides of the pedestal for the rear seat? Or perhaps something so simple as some billet vents in the pedestal on the front, and in the engine bay on the back. If you actually want to know is it's enough air or not, with some basic measurements I can find out for you.

RD

Actually, now that I think about it...the seat base under the back seat doesnt go all the way across, so air will go in on each side.

[River]

Actually, now that I think about it...the seat base under the back seat doesnt go all the way across, so air will go in on each side.

Put some vents in the rear carling to help it through...:thumbsup

[RiverDave]

There are no openings in the SR22. it's as tight as a drum. I talked to Carson when he rode in it without the hatch it was at 110 at 5400. with full interior it was 110 at 5700. I honestly think thats Mark's will be fine. But that's ust my .02

I've never seen the boat in person, but just read what the guys that built it wrote.. :hmm

Originally Posted by Racey
...When i built the hatch and upholstery i tried to make as much breathing room for the engine as possible but you definitely feel the difference between running with the hatch on and off, i'm guessing it's a good 100hp difference.

RD

[RiverDave]

Actually, now that I think about it...the seat base under the back seat doesnt go all the way across, so air will go in on each side.

It will most likely be fine then.. ;)

RD

[RiverDave]

There are no openings in the SR22. it's as tight as a drum. I talked to Carson when he rode in it without the hatch it was at 110 at 5400. with full interior it was 110 at 5700. I honestly think thats Mark's will be fine. But that's ust my .02

So having the hatch on or off the boat, effects the aerodynamics enough to affect the prop slip on the boat?

RD

[SFV2RVR]

So having the hatch on or off the boat, effects the aerodynamics enough to affect the prop slip on the boat?

RD

Extra weight?:hmm

[SFV2RVR]

It will most likely be fine then.. ;)

RD

Theres that old saying.....It is what it is! Cause it sure as hell isnt getting changed now!

[River]

Did I tell you I met the new owner of Jeff's boat over at Carons last week. The motor is all in pieces, he's putting on larger turbos and had to have a few parts made.

Jeff got the motor hot and he had a guy down in Canyon Lake go through the motor. The last build wasn't Carson...

[River Lynchmob]

So having the hatch on or off the boat, effects the aerodynamics enough to affect the prop slip on the boat?

RD

I'm sure it affects aerodynamics but not sure if it would to affect prop slip. I believe you are supposed to figure about 10% slip for a v drive.

[RiverDave]

Well if your running the same speed and 2 different RPM's then that's different prop slips? The extra drag might be due to weight, or decreased aerodynamics, but ultimately is comes back to a slip factor?

RD