View Full Version : Did anyone see this Schiada on eBay?
DeltaSigBoater
04-30-2008, 09:25 AM
24' Schiada on eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/24-Shiada-Weekender-Dual-Drive-2001-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ250242598928QQihZ015QQcategoryZ80 653QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem). I just would like to know why you would.... see the ad, you'll understand :smackhead
SoCal Detail
04-30-2008, 09:38 AM
There was one at the NJBA Motorhead Madness show
Racey
04-30-2008, 09:43 AM
Pretty nice looking Gel scheme, the interior looks like total shit, and the dual pumps are an absolute joke, i can't imagine schiada rigging one like that. must have been a bare hull deal. it would be a great boat with an i/o on it.
OCMerrill
04-30-2008, 04:20 PM
I heard someone made a 27' deck boat with the same idea. Sounded good at the time. :D
Took about a 1,000 HP to make it run 90.
Froggy is making up for it by putting 500 hp in his new Toyota FJ. :D
Halvecto
04-30-2008, 04:29 PM
What would a transom "do over" cost on something like that? Great boat, but wow, lots of work and money to get that thing in traditional I/O Schiada set up.
BNB2008
04-30-2008, 04:32 PM
What would a transom "do over" cost on something like that? Great boat, but wow, lots of work and money to get that thing in traditional I/O Schiada set up.
Ummm....I'll venture a guess to that, it would be enough money that you might as well go out and buy one with a bravo already in it????
RiverDave
04-30-2008, 04:46 PM
Took about a 1,000 HP to make it run 90.
Froggy is making up for it by putting 500 hp in his new Toyota FJ. :D
The Trident with dual jets, never ran 90 to my knowledge.. The thing hit a brick wall at anything above 70.. Now it runs better then 90 with less then 1/2 the HP of the old twin turbo motor.. :)
Ummm....I'll venture a guess to that, it would be enough money that you might as well go out and buy one with a bravo already in it????
Be pretty close..
RD
DeltaSigBoater
04-30-2008, 05:07 PM
What would a transom "do over" cost on something like that? Great boat, but wow, lots of work and money to get that thing in traditional I/O Schiada set up.
Ummm....I'll venture a guess to that, it would be enough money that you might as well go out and buy one with a bravo already in it????
..:)
Be pretty close..
RD
I'm going say for everything to be done right, at least $100,000 :hmm
ShockwaveBobSquarePants
04-30-2008, 05:35 PM
I'm going say for everything to be done right, at least $100,000 :hmm
Does that included $50,000 in cash stuffed under the hatch? :D
mrs flyin vee
04-30-2008, 06:07 PM
they are pretty boats.:)
OCMerrill
04-30-2008, 06:11 PM
The Trident with dual jets, never ran 90 to my knowledge.. The thing hit a brick wall at anything above 70.. Now it runs better then 90 with less then 1/2 the HP of the old twin turbo motor.. :)
Be pretty close..
RD
I thought he got that thing real close to 90? You know more than I. I do rember thinking it was a real cool deal though. And yeah over 100 mph with 700 hp is real cool.
Racey
04-30-2008, 06:41 PM
You could probably buy the thing for 40g's spend about 2-3 grand at pat's to have the transom plugged find a used drive that someone upgraded to an xr from, you'll probably end up having to buy a gimbel and transom plate. and be out of the deal for about less than his buy it now price. fixing the interior would be a whole nother issue :D
RiverDave
04-30-2008, 11:29 PM
I'm going say for everything to be done right, at least $100,000 :hmm
You going to be putting that transom back together with bags of cocaine or something? LOL.. I was thinking maybe 2 - 3 grand at a normal shop to get the boat back to blank hull status.. 4 - 5 grand on the outside at an expensive shop? Then buying a drive / grimble etc.. If you shop around 6 grand, medium deal 7 - 8 grand, retail 10'ish.. External steering another 3 - 4 grand. Then you got another 4 - 5 grand in a nice interior.
RD
BobbyB
04-30-2008, 11:33 PM
Then you got another 4 - 5 grand in a nice interior.
RD
i heard an interior from Schiada costs about 10k or so.....
the 4 to 5 grand will go pretty quick if your looking to get new wood and whatnot
still, that is a cool looking boat
boatnam2
04-30-2008, 11:41 PM
What are the 2 things next to the engine hatch 12 pack holders...
I dont know about how fast it is but the owner must have pretty skinny freinds to use them seats.
BobbyB
04-30-2008, 11:43 PM
kid's seats
boatnam2
04-30-2008, 11:46 PM
OHHHHHHHH they look bitchen bob!
boatnam2
04-30-2008, 11:47 PM
Went by lavey today and seen old auggie..
BobbyB
05-01-2008, 01:25 AM
".........you boat look beechin Bob, you gounna like you boat......ee-look beeschin"
HottRoddeR
05-01-2008, 08:37 AM
The twin jet was an idea that, I think, looked good on paper but didn't transfer to reality well. That's a lot of boat (Schiada's aren't light) with a lot of wetted surface to be pushing. I can't tell you why this owner did what he did but sometimes a build is dictated by constraints.
Take my Vector as a perfect example. After one child and another on the way we were going to need a bigger boat. We boat in Blythe. Ya I know, I've heard just about every joke about Blythe. But the sandbars/shallow water keep the big boats away and the water temp like a bathtub. It's one of the few places where you can go skiing at 2:00 in the afternoon. Anyway, the drive of choice down there is jet. My good friend still has a 1.125 Inconel prop shaft buried in a sandbar out there somewhere. I was 'told' that the boat had to have a flush hatch for laying out and be quiet.
We stumbled across this 10 year old never rigged Vector in '99. Cut a hole in the bottom of it and bolted in a Dominator pump. It took some work to get the rotary mufflers under the hatch but we did it. Today after some pump work from MPD the boat runs 82 on a light load or a full load. The only that changes is the boost guage. The motor is very mild. A 454 with soft lifters and steel heads running 10ish lbs of boost. I personally think the boat has more in it if I could get Bennett to do the bottom. But my wife gets nervous when she sees the motor coming out. She's been around this crap for too long to not know that means money's about to be or has already been spent.
All I'm saying is what looks pointless to one person makes perfect sense to another. It's all about perspective.
Piper
05-01-2008, 08:50 AM
I've never gone for a ride in this boat but it does look nice. It belongs to a buddy of mine.
Racey
05-01-2008, 09:01 AM
The twin jet was an idea that, I think, looked good on paper but didn't transfer to reality well. That's a lot of boat (Schiada's aren't light) with a lot of wetted surface to be pushing. I can't tell you why this owner did what he did but sometimes a build is dictated by constraints.
Take my Vector as a perfect example. After one child and another on the way we were going to need a bigger boat. We boat in Blythe. Ya I know, I've heard just about every joke about Blythe. But the sandbars/shallow water keep the big boats away and the water temp like a bathtub. It's one of the few places where you can go skiing at 2:00 in the afternoon. Anyway, the drive of choice down there is jet. My good friend still has a 1.125 Inconel prop shaft buried in a sandbar out there somewhere. I was 'told' that the boat had to have a flush hatch for laying out and be quiet.
We stumbled across this 10 year old never rigged Vector in '99. Cut a hole in the bottom of it and bolted in a Dominator pump. It took some work to get the rotary mufflers under the hatch but we did it. Today after some pump work from MPD the boat runs 82 on a light load or a full load. The only that changes is the boost guage. The motor is very mild. A 454 with soft lifters and steel heads running 10ish lbs of boost. I personally think the boat has more in it if I could get Bennett to do the bottom. But my wife gets nervous when she sees the motor coming out. She's been around this crap for too long to not know that means money's about to be or has already been spent.
All I'm saying is what looks pointless to one person makes perfect sense to another. It's all about perspective.
It's a valid point, obviously no one would build the boat that way in the first place thinking it was a bad idea to do so.... But you have to think of resale value, and a schiada with 2 jets, or 1 jet, just won't bring the money like a v-drive or an I/O any day of the week. You are gonna sit on the thing for a Looooonnnnng time until the right guy comes along, or until you make the price reflect the market demand.:)
stoker22405
05-01-2008, 10:16 AM
Pretty nice looking Gel scheme, the interior looks like total shit, and the dual pumps are an absolute joke, i can't imagine schiada rigging one like that. must have been a bare hull deal. it would be a great boat with an i/o on it.
Schiada sells bare hulls....???
BADAXE
05-01-2008, 10:17 AM
You could probably buy the thing for 40g's spend about 2-3 grand at pat's to have the transom plugged find a used drive that someone upgraded to an xr from, you'll probably end up having to buy a gimbel and transom plate. and be out of the deal for about less than his buy it now price. fixing the interior would be a whole nother issue :D
Are you forgetting about the giant hole in the bottom?
DeltaSigBoater
05-01-2008, 10:21 AM
You going to be putting that transom back together with bags of cocaine or something? LOL.. I was thinking maybe 2 - 3 grand at a normal shop to get the boat back to blank hull status.. 4 - 5 grand on the outside at an expensive shop? Then buying a drive / grimble etc.. If you shop around 6 grand, medium deal 7 - 8 grand, retail 10'ish.. External steering another 3 - 4 grand. Then you got another 4 - 5 grand in a nice interior.
RD
LOL, Maybe $100 is a bit much, but you still have to purchase the boat and something tells me that the owner isnt going to sell it for anything less than $65k. Then 5k for the transom and bottom being redone = $70k. $7.5 for a drive = $77.5. $3.5k External steering - $81k. $5k Nice new interior = $86,000.
Alright so I was off by $14,000 ;)
BNB2008
05-01-2008, 10:28 AM
I remember being at the LA boat show several years back, and the guys that make the twin jet setup were there demonstrating it. At the time, I thing a few builders tried it, why not schiada?? As stated above, seemed good on paper, and then, I never heard another word about it again. Now it resurfaces....I'll say this, not sure if Schiada rigged it, does not look like thier interior, but I would be interested if it ever worked. And, how well it worked. Maybe it's too much boat to push, maybe, just maybe, the damn thing runs great. Either way, it's a compelling rig, unique....I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for the moment...also, don't forget, theres a 22' shiada out there somewhere with an arneson surface drive on it...this one WAS built by Leonard...so, it's not too far a stretch to think maybe this was a test boat???
Just thinking out loud....don't flame me....:D
Racey
05-01-2008, 10:47 AM
Are you forgetting about the giant hole in the bottom?
:smackhead Jets..... I would still imagine some where in the 3k range would fix the transom and the bottom.
Racey
05-01-2008, 10:53 AM
something tells me that the owner isnt going to sell it for anything less than $65k.
His buy it now price is 63k, and he has 0 bids, No one refuses a reasonable offer, i can't see anyone paying more than 50k absolute tops, unless they are out of their minds. No one lists a boat at the lowest price they are willing to accept, the always list high and offers are made. it comes down to how bad the guy needs the money out of it.
DeltaSigBoater
05-01-2008, 11:16 AM
His buy it now price is 63k, and he has 0 bids, No one refuses a reasonable offer, i can't see anyone paying more than 50k absolute tops, unless they are out of their minds. No one lists a boat at the lowest price they are willing to accept, the always list high and offers are made. it comes down to how bad the guy needs the money out of it.
If I had the money to make the boat right, I'd consider putting a bid on it. He's going to take a bath on the boat either way :beer
Mondorally
05-01-2008, 11:20 AM
If I had the money to make the boat right, I'd consider putting a bid on it. He's going to take a bath on the boat either way :beer
That's assuming it's "wrong";). If I remember I'll ask Lee at the Regatta this weekend if he knows how it ran. Like everyone has said - all depends on the initial purchase price.
JH
RiverDave
05-01-2008, 11:43 AM
Schiada sells bare hulls....???
Absolutely, they sell bare hulls.. Everybody sells bare hulls?
RD
Racey
05-01-2008, 11:52 AM
Schiada Bare Hull = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$^10 :D
RiverDave
05-01-2008, 12:32 PM
Didn't say they were cheap.. LOL but they sell em! :D
RD
HottRoddeR
05-01-2008, 02:40 PM
.... But you have to think of resale value....
Because the custom work you, or Carson, or any custom builder does always takes into account resale value.:D
River
05-09-2008, 10:31 AM
Didn't say they were cheap.. LOL but they sell em! :D
RD
FAR from cheap :eek:
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