New Camaro website to view

[PHOTOGLOU]

http://www.camaro5.com/

[Cole Trickle]

Any confirmed news on engine/hp?

The rumors have been flying for a long time now.

LS2 400hp
LS3 430hp
360hp motor from the G8

I think they are gonna need to offer the SS/z28 with 400+ HP to make people happy.Sad to say but if that thing is less than 400hp with a sticker starting over 30K they will never sell past the first couple months.

I imagine the V6 car will have the same V6's from the CTS

[OCMerrill]

Looks great from the front
Proportioned nicely looking at the side

Rear was designed by a monkey. WTF?

[PHOTOGLOU]

Any confirmed news on engine/hp?

The rumors have been flying for a long time now.

LS2 400hp
LS3 430hp
360hp motor from the G8

I think they are gonna need to offer the SS/z28 with 400+ HP to make people happy.Sad to say but if that thing is less than 400hp with a sticker starting over 30K they will never sell past the first couple months.

I imagine the V6 car will have the same V6's from the CTS
I agree. I think they will release the v-6 first for 6 months then v-8 for 6 months then an SS....

[Cole Trickle]

I agree. I think they will release the v-6 first for 6 months then v-8 for 6 months then an SS....

I have also heard rumors that they are gonna make the Z28 the bad boy. It will be intresting to see if they keep the SS as the flag ship...I would like to see the blown 6.2 from the CTSV show up in a Fbody.

Jay, Do you have any hookups for caddys? My dads lease on his mercedes is almost up and he likes the new CTS.:beer

[PHOTOGLOU]

I have also heard rumors that they are gonna make the Z28 the bad boy. It will be intresting to see if they keep the SS as the flag ship...I would like to see the blown 6.2 from the CTSV show up in a Fbody.

Jay, Do you have any hookups for caddys? My dads lease on his mercedes is almost up and he likes the new CTS.:beer

YES. 714 552 0300

[Ryphraph]

I am hearing that the Z28 is @ 400 HP (LS3 ?)under $30000 and the SS is @ 500 HP (LS8/9 ?) around $40000.

Ryph

[Cole Trickle]

I am hearing that the Z28 is @ 400 HP (LS3 ?)under $30000 and the SS is @ 500 HP (LS8/9 ?) around $40000.

Ryph

I am gonna guess that there will be a L76 in the Z28 (362hp)

Probably an LS3 (430hp) in the SS

They have also talked about doing a few limited edition versions. I bet one comes with the 500hp blown moroe from the CTSV.

I think the 362 hp version will start around 30K

I would expect the 500hp version to be closer to 45K

shall see....still aways off:(:rolleyes:

[shippingguy]

I am gonna guess that there will be a L76 in the Z28 (362hp)

Probably an LS3 (430hp) in the SS

They have also talked about doing a few limited edition versions. I bet one comes with the 500hp blown moroe from the CTSV.

I think the 362 hp version will start around 30K

I would expect the 500hp version to be closer to 45K

shall see....still aways off:(:rolleyes:

I am very interested in this. I used to have a 94 Z28, 99 SS and a restored 70 1/2 Z28 (sold all DAMN BOATING):D. If the price and power are right I will definitely be talking to Jay for a purchase. It will be sweet too if they get the same kind of MPG as the Corvette's do. Will make for a nice river runner so I can leave the truck up at the river house:)

Mike

[Ivan Dan]

I am gonna guess that there will be a L76 in the Z28 (362hp)

Probably an LS3 (430hp) in the SS

They have also talked about doing a few limited edition versions. I bet one comes with the 500hp blown moroe from the CTSV.

I think the 362 hp version will start around 30K

I would expect the 500hp version to be closer to 45K

shall see....still aways off:(:rolleyes:

:eek:You can damn near buy a new Vette for this price.

[Ryphraph]

I am gonna guess that there will be a L76 in the Z28 (362hp)

Probably an LS3 (430hp) in the SS

They have also talked about doing a few limited edition versions. I bet one comes with the 500hp blown moroe from the CTSV.

I think the 362 hp version will start around 30K

I would expect the 500hp version to be closer to 45K

shall see....still aways off:(:rolleyes:

I was thinking the Z28 would get the 400 hp spec'd LS3 like the G8 GXP is getting. I hear the V6 model is coming with 300 HP so 362 HP for the Z sounds low...

I will look for the info that I had seen with all of these numbers...

Here is where I heard of some of this info... It is still all speculation at this point

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=914456

http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0806_2010_chevy_camaro_gotta_have_cars/index.html

The rumor about a turbo EcoTec version sounds good too!

Ryph

[shippingguy]

:eek:You can damn near buy a new Vette for this price.

Thats what I was thinking. If it is near $45K then I will hold off and buy a
2-3 year old ZO6:D I remember when I bought my 94 Z28 it was $22,000 OTD off the showroom floor and my 99 SS was $28,000. If they are near $40k+ no thanks.

Mike

[Cole Trickle]

:eek:You can damn near buy a new Vette for this price.

That would be a very limited production 500hp Camaro.

There is no new vette with 500 hp for 45K;)

I think price/performace wise the new 6 speed 08 LS36 vette is very hard to beat. The z06 and ZR1's are monsters but your paying alot more for that extra 75hp when most of us would never be able to drive the LS3 to it's full potential.

If I hit the lottery tinight I would still get a Black Z06 tommorow:D

[Cole Trickle]

Thats what I was thinking. If it is near $45K then I will hold off and buy a
2-3 year old ZO6:D I remember when I bought my 94 Z28 it was $22,000 OTD off the showroom floor and my 99 SS was $28,000. If they are near $40k+ no thanks.

Mike

yeah....

Times have changed. When I blew up my 00 SS racing (paid 28K new) at Carlsbad in late 02 I couldn't find a dealer in So Cal that would sell either a SS or WS6 for under sticker.:thumbsdown:mad:

I still to this day miss the raw driving style of the SS. My vette was bar none my favorite car and would have killed the SS in a race but the camaro always felt fun/fast.

I think the V8 Camaros will start right at 29.9K and work up depending on options and motor.

[Ultra26 # 1]

I am gonna guess that there will be a L76 in the Z28 (362hp)

Probably an LS3 (430hp) in the SS

They have also talked about doing a few limited edition versions. I bet one comes with the 500hp blown moroe from the CTSV.

I think the 362 hp version will start around 30K

I would expect the 500hp version to be closer to 45K

shall see....still aways off:(:rolleyes:

You can buy a Vette for less. The LS3 6sp runs good.

The LS3 that is going in the G8 is only making 402 HP

[Cole Trickle]

I was thinking the Z28 would get the 400 hp spec'd LS3 like the G8 GXP is getting. I hear the V6 model is coming with 300 HP so 362 HP for the Z sounds low...

I will look for the info that I had seen with all of these numbers...

Here is where I heard of some of this info... It is still all speculation at this point

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=914456

http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0806_2010_chevy_camaro_gotta_have_cars/index.html

The rumor about a turbo EcoTec version sounds good too!

Ryph

Isn't the LS3 going to have right at 420-430 hp?

I just don't see GM making another engine line for the Camaro.

The LS2 is going away

LS3,L76,HO V6 from CTS,Blown V8 with the 1900TVS going in the CTS-V are alll options.

No way they are gonna put that 500+ hp blown small block in a camaro and steal the vettes LS3 thunder unless it's a special option.

I think they will do the LS3 in the SS. Z28 will be in line with the G8 GT.I would guess the SS will start in the 36K range so it can play with the challenger.

Honestly this is the last go around for the Performance 2door. I don't think they are gonna sell enough V6's to be able to have a ton of different V8 options.(They have to move alot of V6 cars to comply with cafe/carb requirements)

[shippingguy]

yeah....

Times have changed. When I blew up my 00 SS racing (paid 28K new) at Carlsbad in late 02 I couldn't find a dealer in So Cal that would sell either a SS or WS6 for under sticker.:thumbsdown:mad:

I still to this day miss the raw driving style of the SS. My vette was bar none my favorite car and would have killed the SS in a race but the camaro always felt fun/fast.

I think the V8 Camaros will start right at 29.9K and work up depending on options and motor.

You are right times have changed. They were sticklers on the price back then. John M. and I used to run ours up at Pomona, you? He had a 95
Z28 with NOS. The Camaro has always been and hopefully still will be the best "bang for the buck". The LS1 in my 99 SS was so smooth compared to the 94 LT1 I had (both fun cars). I am very interested to see what they come up with. I agree with you on the ride and performance of the Camaro. Plus if you had to you could squeeze a couple small people in the backseat:D

[Cole Trickle]

You can buy a Vette for less. The LS3 6sp runs good.

The LS3 that is going in the G8 is only making 402 HP

Are they lowering the compression or just underrating the LS3 in the G8?

You can get a deal on vettes right now but I imagine your sticker was still close to 60K? I imagine you could get a 07 for a steal but you can't tell me your car cost you less than 45K?:hmm:D

[shippingguy]

Are they lowering the compression or just underrating the LS3 in the G8?

You can get a deal on vettes right now but I imagine your sticker was still close to 60K? I imagine you could get a 07 for a steal but you can't tell me your car cost you less than 45K?:hmm:D

I know Paradise Chevrolet here in Temecula has at least a handful of 07's on the lot and they have 4 08 ZO6's on the lot (red, silver, black and atomic orange) I looked at them this morning while I was having the Tahoe serviced.

[Cole Trickle]

You are right times have changed. They were sticklers on the price back then. John M. and I used to run ours up at Pomona, you? He had a 95
Z28 with NOS. The Camaro has always been and hopefully still will be the best "bang for the buck". The LS1 in my 99 SS was so smooth compared to the 94 LT1 I had (both fun cars). I am very interested to see what they come up with. I agree with you on the ride and performance of the Camaro. Plus if you had to you could squeeze a couple small people in the backseat:D

I made it to the very last street legal drags at pomona. I ran a 13.3 @108 with a granatelli MAF and SLP loudmouth(stock tires)

The car eventually ran a 11.9 @117 at Carlsbad with Hooker LT's and a TR224 cam(Car made 366rwhp on Morgans dyno untunned) . I had the car on a pretty serious diet when it popped.

Built an 03 Silverado 5.3 that wen't 14.2 off the bottle on 20's then traded that for the vette in 04:skull (vette went 11.6@123 only time out on a soft launch:p)

I have never been a fan of the LT1;)

[Cole Trickle]

I know Paradise Chevrolet here in Temecula has at least a handful of 07's on the lot and they have 4 08 ZO6's on the lot (red, silver, black and atomic orange) I looked at them this morning while I was having the Tahoe serviced.

I wouldn't buy an 07;):skull

LS3 for the win:thumbsup

[shippingguy]

I wouldn't buy an 07;):skull

LS3 for the win:thumbsup


Of course, but like you said I am sure you can get some good deals on them right now.

[Cole Trickle]

Of course, but like you said I am sure you can get some good deals on them right now.

I stole mine in july 04 when the C6's were about to be launched.

Nice car. I just couldn't imagine getting rid of a Ls2 powered car with a better interior that was half the cost;):eek:

With kids in the future it will be awhile before I buy another 2 door. One thing is certain I will own another vette down the road:)

Step up Mike:D


If you grab a toy the 3 of us can go racing again like the old days:D

[shippingguy]

I stole mine in july 04 when the C6's were about to be launched.

Nice car. I just couldn't imagine getting rid of a Ls2 powered car with a better interior that was half the cost;):eek:

With kids in the future it will be awhile before I buy another 2 door. One thing is certain I will own another vette down the road:)

Step up Mike:D


If you grab a toy the 3 of us can go racing again like the old days:D

I got my toy, it is in my sig-line. The three of us can still go race (boats):D

[Cole Trickle]

I got my toy, it is in my sig-line. The three of us can still go race (boats):D

lol....we already tried that except I lost and I was the only one racing:D

Is there a long stretch of road jon and I can drive down next to the river to show you whos boss:skull

[shippingguy]

lol....we already tried that except I lost and I was the only one racing:D

Is there a long stretch of road jon and I can drive down next to the river to show you whos boss:skull

Yeah but it is all dirt.....plus the way it curves I would finish first:D

[Cole Trickle]

Yeah but it is all dirt.....plus the way it curves I would finish first:D

no way...I have seen you trying to get on plane:D

We would be at 100+ and pulling by the time you could roll into it:skull

Pre-runner GTO and vette:hmm:eek:

[shippingguy]

no way...I have seen you trying to get on plane:D
We would be at 100+ and pulling by the time you could roll into it:skull

Pre-runner GTO and vette:hmm:eek:

Thats because I baby it out of the hole...If racing I would give it that one time hammer and be off:D

BTW...The wife was driving that morning too....:beer

[Cole Trickle]

Thats because I baby it out of the hole...If racing I would give it that one time hammer and be off:D

BTW...The wife was driving that morning too....:beer

It's like salt and lemon in the eyes big guy.......:swear:smackhead:D

[Ultra26 # 1]

Are they lowering the compression or just underrating the LS3 in the G8?

You can get a deal on vettes right now but I imagine your sticker was still close to 60K? I imagine you could get a 07 for a steal but you can't tell me your car cost you less than 45K?:hmm:D

Per M/T the difference is a result of a different intake and exhaust. Not sure that I buy that one.

It was a under $42K. Sticker on my base 08 LS3 6sp Corvette was $46,800. I couldn't justify another $20K for a ZO6. The ZO6 is faster but not $20K faster. :rolleyes:

I stole mine in july 04 when the C6's were about to be launched.

Nice car. I just couldn't imagine getting rid of a Ls2 powered car with a better interior that was half the cost;):eek:

With kids in the future it will be awhile before I buy another 2 door. One thing is certain I will own another vette down the road:)

Step up Mike:D


If you grab a toy the 3 of us can go racing again like the old days:D

Didn't know you knew about the old day :)

The boy did some serious driving :D

[shippingguy]

Didn't know you knew about the old day :)

The boy did some serious driving :D

Racing....Who me? Those were some good times.:D I used to hit the turn at Site real quick and of course the infamous one in front of the Jr High School:D

FYI...If the Camaro ends up being a good buy (power/price)I will be all over one when they come out.:)

[shippingguy]

It's like salt and lemon in the eyes big guy.......:swear:smackhead:D

:beer:D

[Ultra26 # 1]

Racing....Who me? Those were some good times.:D I used to hit the turn at Site real quick and of course the infamous one in front of the Jr High School:D

FYI...If the Camaro ends up being a good buy (power/price)I will be all over one when they come out.:)

State College is the one that I always remember. :beer

[shippingguy]

State College is the one that I always remember. :beer

That was fun too until I ran out of gears in the 70:skull I will say there were some close calls and would now think twice about some of the driving I/we did:D

[Cole Trickle]

Per M/T the difference is a result of a different intake and exhaust. Not sure that I buy that one.

It was a under $42K. Sticker on my base 08 LS3 6sp Corvette was $46,800. I couldn't justify another $20K for a ZO6. The ZO6 is faster but not $20K faster. :rolleyes:



If I had all sorts of extra cash then I would go Z06 and leave it alone. The car is wicked fast stock and looks sinister.

If I was gonna buy on my income (lol) I would do a base LS3 like you. Realisticly the cars are only 30hp off but the newer motor has more ci and better heads. I think you could get a bolt on Ls3 to about 400rwhp with intake/exhaust and tuning. For the amount invested you have a car that should/could trap close to 120 in the 1/4:D:skull

Honestly my vette was more fun to drive in the canyons with boltons then with the blower. It was very balanced and easy to drive sideways. Once I put the blower on it was a serious game of pay attentions. The car would get sideways at 60mph in second gear.

God I mis the 6 speed:(

[Ultra26 # 1]

That was fun too until I ran out of gears in the 70:skull I will say there were some close calls and would now think twice about some of the driving I/we did:D

I was thinking about where is starts at Brea Bl Your Black 94 and my Red 87 ;)

[shippingguy]

I was thinking about where is starts at Brea Bl Your Black 94 and my Red 87 ;)

Yes sir many locations.

[Ryphraph]

If they do the LS3 in the Z28 for around $27999 I will get rid of my '02, Z28, M6 for one. Otherwise, I will build a forged stroker for the '02 and go FI or big spray.

Ryph

[Cole Trickle]

If they do the LS3 in the Z28 for around $27999 I will get rid of my '02, Z28, M6 for one. Otherwise, I will build a forged stroker for the '02 and go FI or big spray.

Ryph


Never gonna happen:)

If the 02 is clean throw in a forged Iron 408 and a 12 bolt with a 200 shot:D:skull

I miss racing a ton. Unfortunatley the only 1/4 mile left in socal is Fontana and the last 2X I have been there it sucked(wind/heat).I recently sold my drag tires as it wasn't fun.

Irwindale is sweet but 1/8 mile isn't ,y thing and it's hard for me to get out that far during a week day.

[Ultra26 # 1]

If I had all sorts of extra cash then I would go Z06 and leave it alone. The car is wicked fast stock and looks sinister.

If I was gonna buy on my income (lol) I would do a base LS3 like you. Realisticly the cars are only 30hp off but the newer motor has more ci and better heads. I think you could get a bolt on Ls3 to about 400rwhp with intake/exhaust and tuning. For the amount invested you have a car that should/could trap close to 120 in the 1/4:D:skull

Honestly my vette was more fun to drive in the canyons with boltons then with the blower. It was very balanced and easy to drive sideways. Once I put the blower on it was a serious game of pay attentions. The car would get sideways at 60mph in second gear.

God I mis the 6 speed:(

I have read a few times that in stock form a 6sp LS3 is pumping 386 HP to the rear wheels. Should be able to get 400 RWHP with just an intake and exhaust. I'm picking up a Corsa Sport system this evening, and I already have a Haltech intake. I'm not going to mess with tuning, at least for now, as the car is plenty fast.

[Cole Trickle]

I have read a few times that in stock form a 6sp LS3 is pumping 386 HP to the rear wheels. Should be able to get 400 RWHP with just an intake and exhaust. I'm picking up a Corsa Sport system this evening, and I already have a Haltech intake. I'm not going to mess with tuning, at least for now, as the car is plenty fast.

386 would be on a very optimistic dyno but 375 is belivable before modding. Honestly a good dyno tune will give you 10-15 rwhp with the exhaust/intake and would get you over 400:skull

Haltech makes a nice intake...Thats what I had on the C5 before I added the blower.(Vararam is sweet but $$$)

Corsa makes a top notch system that has a very different sound(in a good way). Power wise there are some better systems on the market but you might grab a couple HP with the system:thumbsup:D

Are you gonna keep the stock wheels?

[Ryphraph]

Never gonna happen:)

If the 02 is clean throw in a forged Iron 408 and a 12 bolt with a 200 shot:D:skull

I miss racing a ton. Unfortunatley the only 1/4 mile left in socal is Fontana and the last 2X I have been there it sucked(wind/heat).I recently sold my drag tires as it wasn't fun.

Irwindale is sweet but 1/8 mile isn't ,y thing and it's hard for me to get out that far during a week day.

Luckily, I am about 10 minutes from Irwindale. I blew up my clutch last month out there. I upgraded to the LS7 kit and it seems to clamp well. I am still breaking it in so I don't know how it will do at the track yet...

Ryph

[Cole Trickle]

Luckily, I am about 10 minutes from Irwindale. I blew up my clutch last month out there. I upgraded to the LS7 kit and it seems to clamp well. I am still breaking it in so I don't know how it will do at the track yet...

Ryph


Nice...LS7 is hard to beat for the $$$

If your making less then 400 to the whels it should last a while:beer

Back when I was racing my camaro I put in a Cartek. Worked pretty good and there wasn't as many good clutches on the market back then. Today I would prob do the Textrillia(sp)

What are your best times at irwindale?

I took the GTO there in december and ran a 7.89@86 (1.69 60'):)

[Ryphraph]

Nice...LS7 is hard to beat for the $$$

If your making less then 400 to the whels it should last a while:beer

Back when I was racing my camaro I put in a Cartek. Worked pretty good and there wasn't as many good clutches on the market back then. Today I would prob do the Textrillia(sp)

What are your best times at irwindale?

I took the GTO there in december and ran a 7.89@86 (1.69 60'):)


Your time is great,

My best is 8.83 but I have never nailed a decent 60' time. My cars is all stock aside from an SLP lid. I have a feeling that the clutch has been slipping since I got the car back last March. I was able to take down my buddies SRT8 charger though which really pissed him off.

Ryph

[Cole Trickle]

Your time is great,

My best is 8.83 but I have never nailed a decent 60' time. My cars is all stock aside from an SLP lid. I have a feeling that the clutch has been slipping since I got the car back last March. I was able to take down my buddies SRT8 charger though which really pissed him off.

Ryph

grab some 17" mickey tompson drag radials and you will shave off a ton.

Order up a 2.5" cut out from summit and have it welded into the stock pipe going into the muffler for track days:beer

Have you done all the free mods;)

The FTRA worked gread when coupled with the lid:)

Nice kill on the SRT:skull

If you have any questions about mods or set up on the car let me know as I had atlest 250 passes down the track in my SS.

http://home.earthlink.net/~brandinss/SS/Car/Car_3.jpg

[Ryphraph]

I keep hearing rumors that Irwindale is going to run Tuesday night as well as Thursday. They need to do something because the last few times I have gone, the place is packed. It is hard to get more than a couple of runs in 3 hours.

Ryph

[Cole Trickle]

I keep hearing rumors that Irwindale is going to run Tuesday night as well as Thursday. They need to do something because the last few times I have gone, the place is packed. It is hard to get more than a couple of runs in 3 hours.

Ryph

I actually heard they might start running on Saturdays.

Yeah if you show up on a night when they have jr. dragsters or one of there racing series your lucky to get in 2 runs.