F29 wanted

[jack14r]

I am looking for a 2007 or newer F29 with Ilmor 700s closed deck with the optional bagged carbon kevlar lay up.

[PokerRun388]

If you want a perfect used boat, Outdrive1 has your boat...

Believe me, I've seen it in person, on display at DS.. Ilmor625s, TCM Drives

PR Interior, perfect condition...awesome boat...Great deal for a 2005.. U should contact him..

Go to the HOME page on this site, scroll to the bottom, and there's video of this F29...
you won't find a nicer/well kept used boat...

[Cole Trickle]

If your serious, and want a perfect boat, Outdrive1 has your boat...

Believe me, I've seen it in person, on display at DS.. Ilmor710s, TCM Drives

PR Interior, perfect condition...awesome boat...Great deal for a 2005.. U should contact him..

Go to the HOME page on this site, scroll to the bottom, and there's video of this F29...
you won't find a nicer/well kept used boat...no expense spared..

His boat dosent have 710's. Other than that its amazingly clean with a custom poker run interior.

His price is very good

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[Singleton]

Outdrive's boat has Ilmore 625's in it.

[PokerRun388]

His boat dosent have 710's. Other than that its amazingly clean with a custom poker run interior.

His price is very good

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Sorry, I mean't 625s.. i corrected it.. thanks!

[Outdrive1]

Mines 625's. I think he's interested in one of the newer ones.

They did three with 710's with the interliner cut down from the 32. Two are kind of copies but in opposite colors. One white and red, one red and white. The other was white with a blue and grey stripe. Those are all bagged, with every option Dave could throw at them. I always wanted the red and white boat, but the timing never worked out. I don't see any of the three listed anywhere. I heard the white blue and silver boat was for sale though.

[PokerRun388]

Mines 625's. I think he's interested in one of the newer ones.

They did three with 710's with the interliner cut down from the 32. Two are kind of copies but in opposite colors. One white and red, one red and white. The other was white with a blue and grey stripe. Those are all bagged, with every option Dave could throw at them. I always wanted the red and white boat, but the timing never worked out. I don't see any of the three listed anywhere. I heard the white blue and silver boat was for sale though.

Me too, I don't see any of those F29s listed... maybe they just took em off becuz it's winter.. Only one's I see listed are F32s, w/ big power...

[Singleton]

Mines 625's. I think he's interested in one of the newer ones.

They did three with 710's with the interliner cut down from the 32. Two are kind of copies but in opposite colors. One white and red, one red and white. The other was white with a blue and grey stripe. Those are all bagged, with every option Dave could throw at them. I always wanted the red and white boat, but the timing never worked out. I don't see any of the three listed anywhere. I heard the white blue and silver boat was for sale though.

The white blue and silver is a great boat. Wish the budget would allow for it, but only got the wife to approve a used F29 with a single power plant.

[ONE-A-DAY]

Get your checkbook........looked at it a few weeks ago, clean and loaded up

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2008-Daves-Custom-Boats-F29-99694057

[PokerRun388]

Get your checkbook........looked at it a few weeks ago, clean and loaded up

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2008-Daves-Custom-Boats-F29-99694057

Awesome boat....If I was looking for an F29, I'd be driving up there right now... Great colors... Amazing.!

[Outdrive1]

The white and blue one looks almost all white on the water. For some reason it looks great on the trailer and in pictures, in the water those colors blend in with the water reflection and it has no "pop". I was really disappointed when I saw it last time it was for sale.

[PokerRun388]

The white and blue one looks almost all white on the water. For some reason it looks great on the trailer and in pictures, in the water those colors blend in with the water reflection and it has no "pop". I was really disappointed when I saw it last time it was for sale.

190hrs?...that seems high, do u agree?... I just was reading the ad...

[River911]

I almost bought the red and white one. Dave made me a smokin deal taking my 26 on trade. Had the money, didn't have the balls :grumble:

[Outdrive1]

190hrs?...that seems high, do u agree?... I just was reading the ad...

Those motors are good for 600 hours without even looking at them I've been told.

[Outdrive1]

I almost bought the red and white one. Dave made me a smokin deal taking my 26 on trade. Had the money, didn't have the balls :grumble:

I remember......

[PokerRun388]

Those motors are good for 600 hours without even looking at them I've been told.

Ok, cool, I wasn't sure....:D

[PokerRun388]

The white and blue one looks almost all white on the water. For some reason it looks great on the trailer and in pictures, in the water those colors blend in with the water reflection and it has no "pop". I was really disappointed when I saw it last time it was for sale.

I definitely see your point.. I noticed that before with blues/greys/white on the water, but man, it does look amazing on the trailer... love the IMCO drives.. That thing looks mean..!:D

[River911]

I remember......

You remember me not having the balls? lol

[Phebus]

I almost bought the red and white one. Dave made me a smokin deal taking my 26 on trade. Had the money, didn't have the balls :grumble:

Well if you'd have brought your wife's purse with you, you could have closed the deal. :D

[River911]

Well if you'd have brought your wife's purse with you, you could have closed the deal. :D

I never even got to 2nd base :skull

[Outdrive1]

I never even got to 2nd base :skull

The red and white boat is my favorite DCB out of any of them. Id own it for a year and sell it too, lol.

[PokerRun388]

The red and white boat is my favorite DCB out of any of them. Id own it for a year and sell it too, lol.

OUT, any pics of the red/white F29?...

[Outdrive1]

Yeah, somewhere. They did a photo shoot of it in the same Performance Boats magazine edition my blue Ultra was in.

[PokerRun388]

Yeah, somewhere. They did a photo shoot of it in the same Performance Boats magazine edition my blue Ultra was in.

OUT, I just saw your F29 on OSO.. ad looks great..

[Outdrive1]

OUT, I just saw your F29 on OSO.. ad looks great..

I had two people interested in it so I re-listed it so they could see it. Thanks for the compliment.

[PokerRun388]

I had two people interested in it so I re-listed it so they could see it. Thanks for the compliment.

The ad is super long, took me a 1/2hr to read it... LOL..:rolleyes:

I hope it sells, can't wait to see the dual whackers... lol

[Outdrive1]

The ad is super long, took me a 1/2hr to read it... LOL..:rolleyes:

I hope it sells, can't wait to see the dual whackers... lol

Nice. :)

[PokerRun388]

Nice. :)

OUT, do u think any of the buyers are serious?..

[Outdrive1]

OUT, do u think any of the buyers are serious?..

No, lol.

[PokerRun388]

No, lol.

Lol;)

[PokerRun388]

Anyone ever run the Long Beach PR in an F29..? Is it capable?...;)

[ONE-A-DAY]

4 calls this week, none in the previous 2 months, bizarre

One trade offer, one cash offer (ridiculously low)

[PokerRun388]

4 calls this week, none in the previous 2 months, bizarre

One trade offer, one cash offer (ridiculously low)

ONE, im guessing the trade offer wasnt cash and an F26? lol :D

[PokerRun388]

So Jack, are u buying an F29. or what??..

Feel free to chime in..???

[Chipster27]

I heard the white blue and silver boat was for sale though.
Didn't the blue and white one go to Canada? Wasn't that Jeff Lamb's boat before he built the M31?
OUT, any pics of the red/white F29?...
Red/white and white/red

[ONE-A-DAY]

Didn't the blue and white one go to Canada? Wasn't that Jeff Lamb's boat before he built the M31?

Red/white and white/red

Both gorgeous boats :thumbsup

[PokerRun388]

Didn't the blue and white one go to Canada? Wasn't that Jeff Lamb's boat before he built the M31?

Red/white and white/red

WOW, that top F29, the all red one is amazing.... That paint scheme is awesome... ONE, is it currently for sale..? where is it... amazing boat...

btw, the bottom boat's sweet too lol..;)

[Outdrive1]

Didn't the blue and white one go to Canada? Wasn't that Jeff Lamb's boat before he built the M31?

Red/white and white/red

Yes it was Jeff's. Yes a Canadian buyer bought it, I don't think it ever left Havasu.

[Chipster27]

Yes it was Jeff's. Yes a Canadian buyer bought it, I don't think it ever left Havasu.

I thought so. From what I heard it was seen once in Havasu and it was really dirty


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[ONE-A-DAY]

I thought so. From what I heard it was seen once in Havasu and it was really dirty


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Shit like that makes me lay awake at night

[Reaper1]

I thought so. From what I heard it was seen once in Havasu and it was really dirty


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Sounds like he didn't read his rule book. :D

[Chipster27]

Sounds like he didn't read his rule book. :D
There is no orange on it so a different set of rules apply.

[jack14r]

So Jack, are u buying an F29. or what?

YES,I will be in LHC to inspect the blue one on the 6th,they have some work to do to it before then.

[Chipster27]

So Jack, are u buying an F29. or what?

YES,I will be in LHC to inspect the blue one on the 6th,they have some work to do to it before then.

That's a beautiful boat! Good luck with the purchase!

[Outdrive1]

Congrats Jack!

[jack14r]

Thanks,I don't think that it has been used much this last year and needs lots of TLC,I hope that Preston has it all ready when I get there.I think that it has spent a lot of its life in LHC,does anyone know the owners from Canada and Colorado?

[Chipster27]

Thanks,I don't think that it has been used much this last year and needs lots of TLC,I hope that Preston has it all ready when I get there.I think that it has spent a lot of its life in LHC,does anyone know the owners from Canada and Colorado?

I know Jeff who owned it before the guy in Canada. It was in the main hall in the LA Boat show in 2010 and looked fantastic.

[ONE-A-DAY]

Thanks,I don't think that it has been used much this last year and needs lots of TLC,I hope that Preston has it all ready when I get there.I think that it has spent a lot of its life in LHC,does anyone know the owners from Canada and Colorado?

Jack, I looked at it a few weeks ago in Havasu, the boat looked good, nothing wrong with it or damage, just needed a bath and a detail. Didnt look like it had been abused in anyway, just looked like its been sitting awhile. I would have made an offer on it, but I am on "wife" hold till mine sells.

[PokerRun388]

So Jack, are u buying an F29. or what?

YES,I will be in LHC to inspect the blue one on the 6th,they have some work to do to it before then.

Nice Jack.. I love that boat... Ilmor power, Imco drives... sounds good!

Keep us updated!!:D

[PokerRun388]

Hey ONE, any more calls on your F29...?..

[ONE-A-DAY]

Hey ONE, any more calls on your F29...?..

Calls started coming in first week of december, not one call for 2 months prior to that. Had an offer Monday, but we parted ways being $2500 apart. I'm not going to give it away now, when in 2 months the price will be going up. I've been down the boat selling thing just about every winter, as soon as the la boat show happens everything changes.

[PokerRun388]

Calls started coming in first week of december, not one call for 2 months prior to that. Had an offer Monday, but we parted ways being $2500 apart. I'm not going to give it away now, when in 2 months the price will be going up. I've been down the boat selling thing just about every winter, as soon as the la boat show happens everything changes.

ONE, whats gonna be next.... F32, F26,,??... lol..:D

[ONE-A-DAY]

ONE, whats gonna be next.... F32, F26,,??... lol..:D

If it's a F26 it would have to have whackers on it, an there just aren't many of those to choose from, most likely another 29, with a closed bow, poker run interior and illmores. If mine had sold already i would have snapped up outdrive1's in a second.

I learned my lesson with my daytona 26, sell and buy another is way more cost effective than making all kinds of changes to mine.

If I can't find what I want after mine sells I'll tear up the lake on my wife's toon till something cool comes available.

[PokerRun388]

If it's a F26 it would have to have whackers on it, an there just aren't many of those to choose from, most likely another 29, with a closed bow, poker run interior and illmores. If mine had sold already i would have snapped up outdrive1's in a second.

I learned my lesson with my daytona 26, sell and buy another is way more cost effective than making all kinds of changes to mine.

If I can't find what I want after mine sells I'll tear up the lake on my wife's toon till something cool comes available.

Sounds Good... I can't wait too see the new boat, when your's sells..

[PokerRun388]

ONE, how did that dealer in Havasu get that blue/white F29 w/710s..?

[Outdrive1]

ONE, how did that dealer in Havasu get that blue/white F29 w/710s..?

Consignment.

[ONE-A-DAY]

Consignment.

What he said.

[PokerRun388]

Consignment.

Thx Out, I love that boat for Havasu...Amazing:D

[dancudmore]

Anyone ever run the Long Beach PR in an F29..? Is it capable?...;)

define capable :p

to my knowledge, NO nobody has run said poker run with an F-29.

I have personally seen a DCB in the ocean though...Joey's 28 :cool:

[Chipster27]

I have personally seen a DCB in the ocean though...Joey's 28 :cool:
I rig mine for sport fishing when the tuna are bitting. Outboards and the open bow makes it the perfect lake/sport fishing boat.

[OutCole'd]

I rig mine for sport fishing when the tuna are bitting. Outboards and the open bow makes it the perfect lake/sport fishing boat.

Changing out the clevers for your plactic props makes it the perfect trolling boat. I love cleaning the bass on your sponsons, that seems to work best.

[ONE-A-DAY]

I rig mine for sport fishing when the tuna are bitting. Outboards and the open bow makes it the perfect lake/sport fishing boat.

Did you get the tower and outriggers installed yet for this season?


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[OutCole'd]

Did you get the tower and outriggers installed yet for this season?



Shhhhhhhh, that's a surprise. I'm installing the tower next weekend and he doesn't know. I have a new box of 1-5/8" drywall screws to get the job done right the first time.:thumbsup

His ski locker makes the perfect bait tank.

[Chipster27]

Shhhhhhhh, that's a surprise. I'm installing the tower next weekend and he doesn't know. I have a new box of 1-5/8" drywall screws to get the job done right the first time.:thumbsup

His ski locker makes the perfect bait tank.

Hold off on the dry wall screws, I'm having billet deck screws machined. They should be ready first week of Jan. BTW, I like "cleaning tuna" on the sponsons too...

[dancudmore]

I rig mine for sport fishing when the tuna are bitting. Outboards and the open bow makes it the perfect lake/sport fishing boat.
:cool: :champagne:
Shhhhhhhh, that's a surprise. I'm installing the tower next weekend and he doesn't know. I have a new box of 1-5/8" drywall screws to get the job done right the first time.:thumbsup

His ski locker makes the perfect bait tank.
I thought it was a cooler?? :D

Hold off on the dry wall screws, I'm having billet deck screws machined. They should be ready first week of Jan. BTW, I like "cleaning tuna" on the sponsons too...

Winning :D

[jack14r]

Tomorrow is the day that Doug Parks will deliver my new to me F29,I went to the NC Wildlife boat title agent today and they sent all the paperworkin for a North Carolina title,I bet no one in the Raleigh office knows what DCB stands for.It is winter here now,I want to test the boat soon but it will be 25 or less tonight,maybe next week.

[PokerRun388]

Tomorrow is the day that Doug Parks will deliver my new to me F29,I went to the NC Wildlife boat title agent today and they sent all the paperworkin for a North Carolina title,I bet no one in the Raleigh office knows what DCB stands for.It is winter here now,I want to test the boat soon but it will be 25 or less tonight,maybe next week.

Nice Jack.. Congrats.. Nothing like getting your new boat on a 25 degree day.. lol.. Take Pics for us !! :thumbsup

[Chipster27]

Did you get the blue and white one? I found an old Powerboat write up one the white and red one I posted earlier, let me know if you want me to scan and post it. I think it had 710s and ran 141.


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[ONE-A-DAY]

Tomorrow is the day that Doug Parks will deliver my new to me F29,I went to the NC Wildlife boat title agent today and they sent all the paperworkin for a North Carolina title,I bet no one in the Raleigh office knows what DCB stands for.It is winter here now,I want to test the boat soon but it will be 25 or less tonight,maybe next week.

Better plan on towing it back out for Desert Storm! Very nice boat, congrats.


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[jack14r]

It got here and it was actually 20 degrees earlier that morning,Preston and crew from Horizon in LHC did a great job wrapping it,they used the static cling vinyl and then the adhesive type as the top layer,it was perfect when I got the vinyl removed.Doug Parks traveled 2200+ miles in 2 days and we were lucky in that there was no rain or snow to contend with.I highly recommend Preston and Doug.Here are pictures wrapped and after opening her up.

[Chipster27]

Congrats! That's a beautiful boat!

[PokerRun388]

Congrats Jack ! I love that boat..The Imco Drives look sweet... Glad it got there w/o any issues...:thumbsup

PS, sweet garage you have...!! nice ! ..:D

[dancudmore]

congrats, its gorgeous! :cool:

[Iman]

Badass!


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[BMABITY]

That is one of the 29's that stand out from the rest, good luck and congrats! Make sure you release some numbers after you run it, here's an idea take a video too. :D

[jack14r]

I am hoping to get on the water this weekend(it is cold here) it should be about 60 degrees here this weekend,I checked the toe in and it is 1/16,Dave tells me that it should be 1/8 so I will try it like it is,it has a 1/2 spacer in the drive and a 34 B1 on it,I really would like a 5 blade Hering but I got to run it and then try things like removing the spacer and possibly a set of B1-36,at this time it needs to go to the lake.I think that it will be interesting how much cooler it is here now and also most of the summer as to how it performs verses LHC.After talking with others and Dave it sounds that labbed B1 props are so fragile I doubt that I want to go in that direction,but if you read all the old Powerboat test that is what these boats came with.Does anyone just sharpen the B1 blades and what effect does it have?

[BMABITY]

I am hoping to get on the water this weekend(it is cold here) it should be about 60 degrees here this weekend,I checked the toe in and it is 1/16,Dave tells me that it should be 1/8 so I will try it like it is,it has a 1/2 spacer in the drive and a 34 B1 on it,I really would like a 5 blade Hering but I got to run it and then try things like removing the spacer and possibly a set of B1-36,at this time it needs to go to the lake.I think that it will be interesting how much cooler it is here now and also most of the summer as to how it performs verses LHC.After talking with others and Dave it sounds that labbed B1 props are so fragile I doubt that I want to go in that direction,but if you read all the old Powerboat test that is what these boats came with.Does anyone just sharpen the B1 blades and what effect does it have?

Give Brett a call at Bblades, I just sent my prop to him. He will answer all your questions over the phone.

[ONE-A-DAY]

I am hoping to get on the water this weekend(it is cold here) it should be about 60 degrees here this weekend,I checked the toe in and it is 1/16,Dave tells me that it should be 1/8 so I will try it like it is,it has a 1/2 spacer in the drive and a 34 B1 on it,I really would like a 5 blade Hering but I got to run it and then try things like removing the spacer and possibly a set of B1-36,at this time it needs to go to the lake.I think that it will be interesting how much cooler it is here now and also most of the summer as to how it performs verses LHC.After talking with others and Dave it sounds that labbed B1 props are so fragile I doubt that I want to go in that direction,but if you read all the old Powerboat test that is what these boats came with.Does anyone just sharpen the B1 blades and what effect does it have?

JJ Gibbs in HAVASU does my props and he is very familiar with what f29's need to work best. He's worked alot of props for that hull.


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[jack14r]

Give Brett a call at Bblades, I just sent my prop to him. He will answer all your questions over the phone.

I used Brett at Bblades back in 2006 for a Labbed Prop and he did a terrible job,I have used Mercury's labbed props since then and have had no issues with them.I do understand that JJ Gibbs is very good and I will consider using them.I just got to have a break in the weather and it looks like the weekend is out because of rain,but the first of the week could be in the low 70s.

[dougiebear111]

Congrats Jack ! I love that boat..The Imco Drives look sweet... Glad it got there w/o any issues...:thumbsup

PS, sweet garage you have...!! nice ! ..:D

Sweet garage is a major understatement. That is a full blown fab/race shop. There were at least 6 full blown stock cars in different stages of repair or completion. There was even a trans/am corvette being taken care of. First rate stuff. Jack is good people, I hope he makes it out to Desert Storm, he will have a blast.

[jack14r]

I have customers that I maintain vintage road racing stock cars,one guy is from Phoenix and travels to the east coast to race several times a year.The cars are mostly 2006 and older Nextel(Winston) cup cars,they are real with real motors(840+) horse power.I have a full sheet metal shop including shear,finger brake,roller,bead roller,shrinker,english wheel,full machine shop including 2 bridgeports,(3 lathes,160,60,36 inch),wire,mig,tig welders,chassis dyno,pull down machine,spring rater.Even though it is vintage racing it is very serious,and I have the best guy on the east coast who has been with me since 1996.The real reason for customers is to help support my racing habit,I will never make a profit but it helps control some of my cost.The normal crowd that comes into the shop daily really like the F29,this group really appreciates billet stuff and quality workmanship,but they still think that I might be a little crazy,so far I have only 2 that want to go to the lake with me.LOL

[ONE-A-DAY]

Jack,

If you bring the boat out for Desert Storm you can try out some of my props, I will be out for the entire week.

Pretty sure this is your boat at the .48 mark in the shootout.

Lake Havasu Desert Storm 2009 - YouTube

- Walt

[jack14r]

I would love it,to me it would be like being at a NHRA event on the water.

[PokerRun388]

I would love it,to me it would be like being at a NHRA event on the water.

Jack, do u plan on doing any FL Poker Runs? like Jax river run?.. Since your on the east coast?... I realize Havasu is way too far, I wouldn't wanna tow that far either...:D

[BMABITY]

Give Brett a call at Bblades, I just sent my prop to him. He will answer all your questions over the phone.

I used Brett at Bblades back in 2006 for a Labbed Prop and he did a terrible job,I have used Mercury's labbed props since then and have had no issues with them.I do understand that JJ Gibbs is very good and I will consider using them.I just got to have a break in the weather and it looks like the weekend is out because of rain,but the first of the week could be in the low 70s.

What went wrong and what type of prop?

[jack14r]

I don.t think that I need to bash Brett Anderson and B Blades here so I will only discuss a few things,the prop was a B1 that he labbed for me and it was slower and horrible out of the hole,I found his honesty and integrity to be very questionable,since the purchase was with a credit card,the credit card company helped to partially resolve the problem.I am sure that Brett Anderson has made many other customers very satisfied with his product,I am just not one of them.

[WTDecker]

Congrats Jack! I spent a lot of time in that Boat as a passenger, in my opinion the nicest F-29 built.:thumbsup I forgot the gentleman's name from Canada that bought it from DCB, Jeff traded it in for his M-31, but I know he had tested a lot of different props. I'm sure if you talked to Dave maybe he can give you the last owners number and you could get more info on the props he tested with. The only real problem that I know of was a prop shaft broke on one drive. If Dave can't give you his number I might be able to find it for you since I did a little business with him, but I would have to dig around for it. Dave built him an M-35 I believe last year. Have fun you got a great boat!!

[BMABITY]

I don.t think that I need to bash Brett Anderson and B Blades here so I will only discuss a few things,the prop was a B1 that he labbed for me and it was slower and horrible out of the hole,I found his honesty and integrity to be very questionable,since the purchase was with a credit card,the credit card company helped to partially resolve the problem.I am sure that Brett Anderson has made many other customers very satisfied with his product,I am just not one of them.

I hear you there, thanks for the update and best of luck with the 29.

It will be interesting to see how those ilmors run in your colder/dense climate, should be fast!

[WTDecker]

Also Jeff did win Best in Class at the Desert Storm Shootout with that Boat, not sure what year, I think it was 2008.

[jack14r]

Congrats Jack! I spent a lot of time in that Boat as a passenger, in my opinion the nicest F-29 built.:thumbsup I forgot the gentleman's name from Canada that bought it from DCB, Jeff traded it in for his M-31, but I know he had tested a lot of different props. I'm sure if you talked to Dave maybe he can give you the last owners number and you could get more info on the props he tested with. The only real problem that I know of was a prop shaft broke on one drive. If Dave can't give you his number I might be able to find it for you since I did a little business with him, but I would have to dig around for it. Dave built him an M-35 I believe last year. Have fun you got a great boat!!

The blue and grey is really growing on me,I emailed Dave and he said that a 34 B1 and a 1/2 inch spacer which is in it now would work well,he also said that they had broken prop shafts without the spacers in,this one has slight damage on the right drive from an earlier incident.What top speed do you remember?

[PAL]

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14640

[jack14r]

Congrats Jack! I spent a lot of time in that Boat as a passenger, in my opinion the nicest F-29 built.:thumbsup I forgot the gentleman's name from Canada that bought it from DCB, Jeff traded it in for his M-31, but I know he had tested a lot of different props. I'm sure if you talked to Dave maybe he can give you the last owners number and you could get more info on the props he tested with. The only real problem that I know of was a prop shaft broke on one drive. If Dave can't give you his number I might be able to find it for you since I did a little business with him, but I would have to dig around for it. Dave built him an M-35 I believe last year. Have fun you got a great boat!!

Yes you are right about the M35,I think that his name is Al Thompson and he is from Canada and has several boats.Apparently all of these have the 1 1/4 prop shafts,does anyone put in the 1 7/16 shafts which would be stronger,if everything goes ok in prop testing I think that I will rebuild the drives before summer and put in the big shafts.

[PokerRun388]

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14640

Beautiful boat, love the colors...:thumbsup

[WTDecker]

The blue and grey is really growing on me,I emailed Dave and he said that a 34 B1 and a 1/2 inch spacer which is in it now would work well,he also said that they had broken prop shafts without the spacers in,this one has slight damage on the right drive from an earlier incident.What top speed do you remember?

I think the best top end was 135. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

[jack14r]

I think the best top end was 135. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

The boat test in Powerboat was 141 but we all know that is under perfect conditions with the X up high and perfect props,135 seems very realistic with a light load of fuel and 2 aboard.

[jack14r]

Today was the day it was forecast to be 65 but it only got to 58,but I went to the lake with 2 buddies,this is the most docile boat at speed any of us have ever driven,we can't believe it.The drive has a 1/2 inch spacer in it and stock 34 B1 props and it runs 125,I will take out the spacer this week and go back to the lake,I understand that the spacer slowed the top end by 7-8 MPH.

[jack14r]

pictures

[PokerRun388]

Pics look great Jack...! I love that boat..!!:thumbsup

[dougiebear111]

Glad to see you finally made it out. Now the neighbors know what they are in for. Boat looks great.

[just_floatin]

I have customers that I maintain vintage road racing stock cars,one guy is from Phoenix and travels to the east coast to race several times a year.The cars are mostly 2006 and older Nextel(Winston) cup cars,they are real with real motors(840+) horse power.I have a full sheet metal shop including shear,finger brake,roller,bead roller,shrinker,english wheel,full machine shop including 2 bridgeports,(3 lathes,160,60,36 inch),wire,mig,tig welders,chassis dyno,pull down machine,spring rater.Even though it is vintage racing it is very serious,and I have the best guy on the east coast who has been with me since 1996.The real reason for customers is to help support my racing habit,I will never make a profit but it helps control some of my cost.The normal crowd that comes into the shop daily really like the F29,this group really appreciates billet stuff and quality workmanship,but they still think that I might be a little crazy,so far I have only 2 that want to go to the lake with me.LOL

Hey there Jack.... If I may chime in. I travel to Raleigh NC a few times a year on business to visit the corporate office. In my seven years of travel to the Triangle, I do not believe I have ever seen a DCB or high performance boat for that matter on the local lakes there. The fisherman and the runabout boats are in for a shock. Good for you.. That is a beautiful boat you have there.

[jack14r]

Hey there Jack.... If I may chime in. I travel to Raleigh NC a few times a year on business to visit the corporate office. In my seven years of travel to the Triangle, I do not believe I have ever seen a DCB or high performance boat for that matter on the local lakes there. The fisherman and the runabout boats are in for a shock. Good for you.. That is a beautiful boat you have there.

You are right,the locals did not like my Mach 22 or my Laveycraft Sabre,this one will really create a lot of unwanted attention.I decided to put the mufflers in because of this and I am surprised how quiet it is,its not real loud without them but it is real quiet with the mufflers in.they are gattlin type from Imco.

[PokerRun388]

Hey there Jack.... If I may chime in. I travel to Raleigh NC a few times a year on business to visit the corporate office. In my seven years of travel to the Triangle, I do not believe I have ever seen a DCB or high performance boat for that matter on the local lakes there. The fisherman and the runabout boats are in for a shock. Good for you.. That is a beautiful boat you have there.

Looks like a beautiful place too, just looking at some of Jack's pics... And it sure is nice to see dcbracing in NC.. Nice Jack!..:thumbsup:thumbsup

[Chipster27]

I believe at one time DCB had a dealer in the Lake Norman area. Also, Grey Goose has his twin whacker F29 out there some where, I think Lake Norman. Wasn't there a video a while back of the guy that bought that yellow F34 and flipped it on a lake in NC? Like the comment above, the locals in the fishing boats and pontoons were all pissy about "a fast noisy boat" that was on "their" lake. Regardless, it's nice to see a west coast boat going east!


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[River911]

Love that 29. Shoulda bought it when it was sitting in Dave's shop a couple years ago :(

[jack14r]

I believe at one time DCB had a dealer in the Lake Norman area. Also, Grey Goose has his twin whacker F29 out there some where, I think Lake Norman. Wasn't there a video a while back of the guy that bought that yellow F34 and flipped it on a lake in NC? Like the comment above, the locals in the fishing boats and pontoons were all pissy about "a fast noisy boat" that was on "their" lake. Regardless, it's nice to see a west coast boat going east!


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There was a dealer in Salisbury,Extreme Marine and they did not have a clue and were big liars,they went chapter 7,I didn't know about the 34,how many did Dave build?

[jack14r]

Love that 29. Shoulda bought it when it was sitting in Dave's shop a couple years ago :(

Its amazing that I am the 4th owner and no one trashed it,there are very few scratches or signs of normal wear.

[graygoose]

I believe at one time DCB had a dealer in the Lake Norman area. Also, Grey Goose has his twin whacker F29 out there some where, I think Lake Norman. Wasn't there a video a while back of the guy that bought that yellow F34 and flipped it on a lake in NC? Like the comment above, the locals in the fishing boats and pontoons were all pissy about "a fast noisy boat" that was on "their" lake. Regardless, it's nice to see a west coast boat going east!


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Yep, I have had mine on Lake Norman for the past year.
there are two other ones here, a F29 and an F32.


Here is mine
http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=348&pictureid=2699

[Chipster27]

I didn't know about the 34,how many did Dave build?
From what I know, not many. I think there were some issues with the bottoms so they got some bad press. Dave retooled the bottom and corrected the problem, but I think he was on to other boats and didn't want to look back at the 34.
Yep, I have had mine on Lake Norman for the past year.
How are those props treating you? Did I tell you I was rear ended on the way home from our meeting :grumble: I sold you the props for $600 and the deductible for my repairs was $1000 :D Next time I sell you props your an just come pick them up and I'll give you an extra $400 :D

[Chipster27]

Wasn't there a video a while back of the guy that bought that yellow F34 and flipped it on a lake in NC?
I found the video, it was an F34, but the accident was in PA, not NC.
http://www.wtae.com/news/28430598/detail.html#ixzz1R9ljDvw9

[Patyacht]

Hey Jack;
Glad to see the boat made it out to NC and you've been out for a spin already. Boat looks great and happy I could help with the pre inspection. Enjoy the boat she looks awesome.

[jack14r]

Hey Jack;
Glad to see the boat made it out to NC and you've been out for a spin already. Boat looks great and happy I could help with the pre inspection. Enjoy the boat she looks awesome.

Thanks Pat,I am just testing right now,I took out the spacer and it ran 127 today,it was a little looser and accelerated harder,but it ran out of prop,it hit the rev limiter at 6300 and I ordered a set of Hering 5 blade props this afternoon.I called Tony at DCB(thanks for the contact #)and he told me that to run the big numbers it takes a 2 inch shortie,a 1.25 gear ratio,and the right Hering prop.I am not ready to do that yet I need more seat time with what I have and need to fine tune the Hering that I have ordered.I do think that the test in powerboat from 2007 was not accurate as to prop and gear ratio.Dave wants the boats on a rail for his customers which is exactly what I would do if I was building fast boats.Tony did say that this combination with the 2" shortie,1.25 ratio,Hering prop could run 145.This boat is really fun to drive at speed and your help with the inspection prior to the purchase made the purchase easy for me.

[BMABITY]

Thanks Pat,I am just testing right now,I took out the spacer and it ran 127 today,it was a little looser and accelerated harder,but it ran out of prop,it hit the rev limiter at 6300 and I ordered a set of Hering 5 blade props this afternoon.I called Tony at DCB(thanks for the contact #)and he told me that to run the big numbers it takes a 2 inch shortie,a 1.25 gear ratio,and the right Hering prop.I am not ready to do that yet I need more seat time with what I have and need to fine tune the Hering that I have ordered.I do think that the test in powerboat from 2007 was not accurate as to prop and gear ratio.Dave wants the boats on a rail for his customers which is exactly what I would do if I was building fast boats.Tony did say that this combination with the 2" shortie,1.25 ratio,Hering prop could run 145.This boat is really fun to drive at speed and your help with the inspection prior to the purchase made the purchase easy for me.

127 to 145 mph with a drive height change and props, wow! How does the boat plane with its current setup? I would have to assume that going for the big mph must kill the boats plane time.

[jack14r]

127 to 145 mph with a drive height change and props, wow! How does the boat plane with its current setup? I would have to assume that going for the big mph must kill the boats plane time.

It is on the rev limiter and lets really assume that he really meant 140-145.It really does not cavitate out of the hole so the drive is just too deep.

[WTDecker]

I really hope you make it to 140 but I would be really surprised but you never know. Since the first owner did hit 136 and that was with 3 people aboard and he messed with many different props, he told me the Herrings didn't seem to do the trick at the time. The second owner played with a lot of different props including Herrings he wasn't able to hit the 140 mark either. Good Luck! It's still the Best looking F-29 out there!!!

[jack14r]

I really hope you make it to 140 but I would be really surprised but you never know. Since the first owner did hit 136 and that was with 3 people aboard and he messed with many different props, he told me the Herrings didn't seem to do the trick at the time. The second owner played with a lot of different props including Herrings he wasn't able to hit the 140 mark either. Good Luck! It's still the Best looking F-29 out there!!!

I understand that Jeff is the type to try for big numbers and if he could not do it it might be impossible,I do wonder how truthful Powerboat was with their test speed of 141.6 in 2007 with the red one.I suspect that the only way it could be done is with one aboard,light fuel,everything extra out of the boat,cool day,and real good density altitude.It is fun to see how one can do with props,your number of 136 does give me something to shoot for.Thanks again for the compliment,I am still surprised that it is so nice after 3 owners and 4+ years.

[ONE-A-DAY]

Jack, are you coming out for desert storm?


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[jack14r]

Jack, are you coming out for desert storm?


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I would like to one day but it is 4500 miles round trip,I actually have a conflict that weekend this year.How hard is it to get a place for the week?

[dougiebear111]

Hey Jack, just give me a call. I can get the boat out here and back home. All you have to do is fly in and fly out. Isn't that how the big boys play?HAHAHA. Glad to see you are getting to play with your new boat. l
Looking forward to seeing all of your speed trials.

[ONE-A-DAY]

I would like to one day but it is 4500 miles round trip,I actually have a conflict that weekend this year.How hard is it to get a place for the week?

Fly in to Vegas, two hour drive, probably rooms / houses still available

[Reaper1]

Yep, I have had mine on Lake Norman for the past year.
there are two other ones here, a F29 and an F32.


Here is mine
http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=348&pictureid=2699

Hey, where the hell have you been?:D Hope your leaving the dream in Nascar country!:thumbsup

[jack14r]

Today was a great weather day so I went to the lake for a run,changed to a stock set of bravo 1 props 36 pitch,the temperature was 64 degrees and my hand held weather station said the density altitude was 1000 feet,2 aboard,3/8 tanks 130.5 @ 6100 RPM.I have a set of 2" shorties with 1.25 ratio on order as well as a set of Herings and Gibbs is doing a set of 34s for me and if they are not tall enough I will have them do the 36s,I have lots of stuff to test,I hope I get it all done before summer.I now feel much better that it can run 135 or better with the right set up.The F29 is really awesome at speed it really feels like it is planted and never wanders.

[dancudmore]

Today was a great weather day so I went to the lake for a run,changed to a stock set of bravo 1 props 36 pitch,the temperature was 64 degrees and my hand held weather station said the density altitude was 1000 feet,2 aboard,3/8 tanks 130.5 @ 6100 RPM.I have a set of 2" shorties with 1.25 ratio on order as well as a set of Herings and Gibbs is doing a set of 34s for me and if they are not tall enough I will have them do the 36s,I have lots of stuff to test,I hope I get it all done before summer.I now feel much better that it can run 135 or better with the right set up.The F29 is really awesome at speed it really feels like it is planted and never wanders.

nice! :cool: :thumbsup :thumbsup :bowdown:

[River911]

Today was a great weather day so I went to the lake for a run,changed to a stock set of bravo 1 props 36 pitch,the temperature was 64 degrees and my hand held weather station said the density altitude was 1000 feet,2 aboard,3/8 tanks 130.5 @ 6100 RPM.I have a set of 2" shorties with 1.25 ratio on order as well as a set of Herings and Gibbs is doing a set of 34s for me and if they are not tall enough I will have them do the 36s,I have lots of stuff to test,I hope I get it all done before summer.I now feel much better that it can run 135 or better with the right set up.The F29 is really awesome at speed it really feels like it is planted and never wanders.

What is the height now? -0

[BMABITY]

Today was a great weather day so I went to the lake for a run,changed to a stock set of bravo 1 props 36 pitch,the temperature was 64 degrees and my hand held weather station said the density altitude was 1000 feet,2 aboard,3/8 tanks 130.5 @ 6100 RPM.I have a set of 2" shorties with 1.25 ratio on order as well as a set of Herings and Gibbs is doing a set of 34s for me and if they are not tall enough I will have them do the 36s,I have lots of stuff to test,I hope I get it all done before summer.I now feel much better that it can run 135 or better with the right set up.The F29 is really awesome at speed it really feels like it is planted and never wanders.

Sounds like things are moving in the right direction. Those V-10's must sound cool buzzing along at 6000+ rpm's! Thanks for the updates, its always cool to read about progress on any boat. Good luck..

[jack14r]

What is the height now? -0

They are - 1 now.It had a 1/2 spacer in them when I bought it,with the -2 I might need that spacer again,testing will tell.

[River911]

They are - 1 now.It had a 1/2 spacer in them when I bought it,with the -2 I might need that spacer again,testing will tell.

How does it roll over??

[jack14r]

How does it roll over??

With 34s it does not have any cavitation,with the 36s it has some but is still very good,big props just do that,I am really surprised with the 34s they put the 1/2" spacer in because it is just not needed at all.

[jack14r]

This week was very different,I installed the pair of 2"shorties with 1.25 ratio with 34 props,at first I didn't think that it would come on plane but I finally got it on plane on the second try.The wind was gusting up to 25-30 mph and the cat would yaw with the wind,it never felt settled,the acceleration was sluggish with the gearing and I only ran it to 122 because I was just not comfortable as it darted around with the wind.JJ at Gibbs propeller said that it would act exactly as it did.I don't think that it would have ever come on plane with 4 or 5 aboard.I have ordered 2 sets of 1.34 gears and 2 one inch spacers for those shorties,I am sending them to Wilson Performance Marine in Florida to be profiled,so now I am waiting on a 2 sets of props to continue to find more speed,I have re installed the 1" shorties as that is what I know is very drivable.

[HighVoltage329]

Good info, thanks for sharing. Do you think the problems were caused by the 1.25 ratio or the additional 1" in height? Looks like your going to find out.

[jack14r]

The height creates most of the problem I think,I will try a 1/2 inch spacer and a 1" spacer also,but I know that I cannot pull the 1.25 in either of those conditions so I will change it to a 1.34.I do think that it will run big numbers with the short drive just not in windy conditions and I need a much larger lake.There is a happy medium that I will find,it must come on plane reasonably,have good speed and do it with 3-4 aboard with 1/2 tanks,I know as the summer gets here it will change again but if I have established a good baseline I will be able to adjust with just a set of props.What have you found with yours?

[HighVoltage329]

Mine has -1" on the lowers and runnin' 34" Bravos with 625 Ilmor's. It's the set up that was on the boat. It has some blow out rolling over but is minimal. I haven't done any top end runs yes but did see 120mph at one point and was still pulling. I was running at sea level in cool conditions.

[jack14r]

Mine has -1" on the lowers and runnin' 34" Bravos with 625 Ilmor's. It's the set up that was on the boat. It has some blow out rolling over but is minimal. I haven't done any top end runs yes but did see 120mph at one point and was still pulling. I was running at sea level in cool conditions.

With the -1 and 34s I do not have any blow out with the 36s I have a little blow out,the 36s are faster this time of year,both sets are stock and I have a set of 34s coming from Gibbs and a set of 5 blades from Hering,both of those will be interesting to test.

[jack14r]

JJ gibbs called and said that props would be shipped tomorrow,they are a set of 34s,he also said that the left hand prop was not even close to what it should have been in pitch,but he fixed the pitch and the pair will be the same.Jeff from Hering emailed me and they are out of right hand Bravo castings and they will be delivered in 2 weeks,I bet I am looking at 4 weeks for the Herings.The 2" shorties are ready for shipment to Wilson Custom Marine in Florida and I will ship them tomorrow to be profiled by WCM.I have ordered a 1" spacer for the 2" shortie and a pair of 1.34 gears from Imco and they are out 2 weeks.It is apparent that in this economy that no one has any inventory!!

[jack14r]

Well things changed,Hering is ready to ship by tomorrow.

[jack14r]

The weather was nice here today,70 degrees with very high pressure 30.35,I tested the Herings (33) and the Gibbs labbed Bravo 1 (34) the Herings hit the rev limiter and the speed was 128,the Gibbs also hit the limiter and they ran 130.5.The Gibbs will be about perfect on a 85-90 degree day as they just touched the limiter and they really accelerated very fast.I am sending a set of 36s to gibbs to be labbed to be my cool weather props and I will return the Herings for some more tuning for top speed.Craig Wilson has my extra set of lowers that he is profiling and I hope to get them back in a couple of weeks.They are 2" shorties but I have a 1" spacer for them,with the spacers they will be the same height as my current drives.

[River911]

Sounds like fun. Nice numbers :thumbsup

[MissB]

:thumbsup Very cool!

[Chipster27]

First off, that's a beautiful boat. You're a lucky man to have it :thumbsup

Second, I love all the testing your putting in to it, and more than that, the fact that you're posting your results. I'm sure others are benefiting from your time and efforts :thumbsup

Please keep it up! Enjoy the boat and the summer :D

[jack14r]

Wilson Marine called and they are working on the lowers,the 1.34 gears are in,I have the 1 inch spacers for the 2 inch shorties,,Hering is making a new set of 5 blade props-34 pitch, I sent a set of B1-36 pitch to JJ Gibbs to lab into 35 pitch.I will report back when stuff is in hand.

[jack14r]

The lowers from wilson Custom Marine arrived and I took them to be reassembled,they look great,I sent JJ Gibbs a pair of bravo 36 pitch props to lab finish and they should be back next week.I had an idle problem on my last trip to the lake and I emailed Ilmor about the problem they wanted the ECUs and the throttle bodies,they were sure that the throttle position sensor on the port engine had failed,I took all of the stuff off the motors,marked each item port or starboard and shipped them to Ilmore.They flowed the TBs and re flashed the ECMs and the port TPS was defective,they only charged for the TPS,no labor or anything.I did purchase air filters and they returned everything within 24 hours,their communication and service is excellent.Today I wanted to see how the newly installed TBs,ECMs performed,everything was perfect,the transom after an hour or so was almost clean compared to the previous runs,and the boat repeated even though the density altitude was 2250 feet and the temperature was 82 degrees.The air cleaners have crankcase ventilation going to them which oiled up the elements,I am not sure which item corrected the rich condition but it sure does idle better and I never get a smell of gasoline any more.I will post pictures of the lowers later they look great.

[jack14r]

The lowers are re assembled and here are some pictures before re assembly,should have props from JJ Gibbs by Friday and should test by the weekend.

[River911]

Nice.

Are the water pickups going to be used?

[jack14r]

The water pick ups are only for the drive shower,the motor gets water from the sea strainers which have a pick ups through the hull.

[River911]

The water pick ups are only for the drive shower,the motor gets water from the sea strainers which have a pick ups through the hull.

Cool same as mine.

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[HighVoltage329]

Those look bad ass!!!

[jack14r]

I got the labbed 36s from JJ Gibbs on Monday and went to the lake,the density altitude was horrible,2500 feet.I was concerned that it might not pull the 36s(which are actually 35s now)but it did ok,it ran 130.5 and it turned 5900 RPM,based on correction factor chart that I have used to estimate horsepower at 1000 foot density altitude it should run 133-134 MPH.I have now installed the Wilson Custom Marine profiled lowers,they now have the same ratio and height as the lowers that they replaced.This weekend looks to be about 10-15 degrees cooler and the pressure is rising,I will start with the 36s again and I am awaiting the replacement set of Hering props which should be here in a couple of weeks.

[jack14r]

Today was good the density altitude was 900 feet and the temperature was 68 degrees.I installed the Wilson Custom Marine profiled lowers with 1"spacers and the JJ Gibbs 36 labbed props,it ran 136 and only turned 6000 RPM.The Wilson lowers really help the slip as it was 11% now it is 8%,now it is time to test with the Gibbs 34s.I was really surprised how much the lowers hurt the hole shot,it was real hard to get on plane with the 36s,but they really helped on top,the correction factor that I have used tells me that the lowers were 3-4 MPH faster than the stock Imco lowers.The nose cone points were in a different location which meant that the tow in had to be reset about 1/4 inch to get the tow to 1/8 tow in.The lowers are straight and true according to Craig Wilson,and the change in toe in confirms it.

[jack14r]

After a few emails with Craig Wilson he helped me find what I think is the hole shot problem,he states that his profiled drives should help the hole shot so he asked what did I change,I only changed from a 1" shortie to a 2" shortie with a 1" spacer,the Imco spacer does not follow the profile of the Imco SC lower it actually is blunt at the very front,which will disturb the water flow to the propeller,so I will fabricate a new piece about 3 inches long to follow the profile of the drive.This blunt area is above the water flow at speed therefore it did not affect top speed.I did test the 34s on Sunday and they ran 132 on the rev limiter,this is faster than before with the old lowers.I am surprised that Imco does not make the spacer to match the lower.

[jack14r]

I fabricated 2 V pieces to help direct the water flow to help the hole shot.

[jack14r]

Went to test the V shaped pieces that are pictured above and they really helped the hole shot,it was like it was before with the other drives.The day was 78 degrees and the density altitude was 1700 feet and there was no breeze,it ran 135 on glass water with a lot of trim,the Wilson lowers are worth about 4 MPH IMHO,they are really worth the price.

[fmo24]

I'm loving this thread. The information you are sharing should really give people a leg up on setting up a similar boat

[Just Tool'in]

Hey Jack, saw you on LN a week ago Sunday. I was in the Trick 21 with Merc O/B. Had lost 1/3 of a prop blade just before I saw you so couldn't run to well. You saw my son and I limping back to the dock by the state park area. Your boat looks awesome and i am super jealous! that is a dream boat for me! Hope to catch up with you this season some time on the water, of course your boat will need to be idling or turned off for me to catch up with you! I have a machine shop in Lakeside park, read where you have a metal shop. Talk to ya soon, Steve

[jack14r]

Hey Jack, saw you on LN a week ago Sunday. I was in the Trick 21 with Merc O/B. Had lost 1/3 of a prop blade just before I saw you so couldn't run to well. You saw my son and I limping back to the dock by the state park area. Your boat looks awesome and i am super jealous! that is a dream boat for me! Hope to catch up with you this season some time on the water, of course your boat will need to be idling or turned off for me to catch up with you! I have a machine shop in Lakeside park, read where you have a metal shop. Talk to ya soon, Steve

Not me,I am on Badin Lake,I might go to Norman later this summer.I live about 2 hours from Norman.

[Just Tool'in]

Wow, there is a "new" DCB on Norman runnin around with almost the same colors! Well hopefully we ctach up when you get over here! NICE boat!

[RUNNINHOTRACING163.1]

The lowers are re assembled and here are some pictures before re assembly,should have props from JJ Gibbs by Friday and should test by the weekend.

those look BADAZZ :thumbsup:thumbsup
WCM does awesome work and good luck on getting her dialed in :champagne:









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[jack14r]

Went to the lake today and I was curious if removing the mufflers would help,it has Imco Gatlin mufflers.The density altitude was 650 feet and it ran 137 MPH,the fastest yet.It does not seem like that removing the mufflers had any effect on top speed,I have been able to predict the speed that it will run based on the density altitude.I still have a replacement set of Hering 5 blade props coming and I had Wilson Custom Marine profile another set of lowers and I asked him to do more stock removal on that set.I am thinking of removing the 1" spacer and installing a 1/2" spacer to see if it helps speed.The summer is coming soon and it is already in the 80s so it will be hard to find good air to run the big numbers.I will continue to test when I can but I suspect that there will be few days that the density altitude is below 1000 feet.I am so impressed with the handling at speed as well as the ride in chop,this combination will repeat each time I ask it to,Dave builds one awesome boat!!!