grumpy88
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They suck, poor craftsmanship and even worse customer service. If you have a choice to not use them, I would!
I agree with the first sentence. If not them, who?
ROKE Custom Trailers. https://www.facebook.com/pages/ROKE-Custom-Trailers/490006211061377
I don't know him personally, but his trailers look top notch. :thumbup:
I agree with the first sentence. If not them, who?
My brother took his '21 DeMarco to them on his old trailer and left the whole setup there in the winter as they were to build him a brand new triple axle to put underneath it. His boat was originally a ski race boat and has an outdrive, with a skag in nearly the center of the hull. Long story short, two months over on timeframe, he gets the call to pick it up. Walks in to check it out, and they built a crossmember directly behind the skag, making it physically impossible to float the boat off the trailer. Now they say they are swamped with work, as it is spring, and it takes them another 3 weeks to fix it. The fit and finish on the thing look like complete shit. They built each spring set on their own perches, so the axles look too far apart. Every time I see the boat on the trailer, I feel bad my brother has to live with it in his garage.
Tell the builder, "I want X company to build my trailer". If they say "no", then they're not a custom builder so go elsewhere.
I'm not sure it is that easy. I may be wrong here, but I think if the builders are including the trailer in the boat purchase then they have provide you with a trailer that meets some federal certification. Additionally, last I heard not all of the trailer builders have this certification. Again, I could be wrong but this is how it was explained to me a few years ago. Anyone know the real scoop?
I'm not sure it is that easy. I may be wrong here, but I think if the builders are including the trailer in the boat purchase then they have provide you with a trailer that meets some federal certification. Additionally, last I heard not all of the trailer builders have this certification. Again, I could be wrong but this is how it was explained to me a few years ago. Anyone know the real scoop?
Is this Ziemans fault? How do they stay in business with total tards running the show? Just asking. I find it hard to believe the stories can be this bad, where is QC? Where is line management? Maybe I should roll over there and run this, can't be that hard to fix and I have ZERO experience in building trailers, but just the few stories I read here I can guarantee that wouldn't occur under my watch. Which leads me to believe there are some things missing here.
I'm not sure it is that easy. I may be wrong here, but I think if the builders are including the trailer in the boat purchase then they have provide you with a trailer that meets some federal certification. Additionally, last I heard not all of the trailer builders have this certification. Again, I could be wrong but this is how it was explained to me a few years ago. Anyone know the real scoop?
I agree with the first sentence. If not them, who?
Tell the builder, "I want X company to build my trailer". If they say "no", then they're not a custom builder so go elsewhere.
Not that simple if they don't have the hull spec's on the boat being built. But once they have a boat to build the trailer for then it a piece of cake to duplicate. And for some one to get Certified it costs a bunch of money up front and then there's the liability insurance. To many Ambulance chasers out there. I used to buy from VIP Trailers in Chandler, they won't shell out the money the money that it takes to start building again.
Not that simple if they don't have the hull spec's on the boat being built. But once they have a boat to build the trailer for then it a piece of cake to duplicate. And for some one to get Certified it costs a bunch of money up front and then there's the liability insurance. To many Ambulance chasers out there. I used to buy from VIP Trailers in Chandler, they won't shell out the money the money that it takes to start building again.
I bought a BRAND NEW triple axle Extreme for my boat in 2006. I have no complaints about how it tows at all, It actually tows very nice. It runs straight and true, tracks like a slot car, and has just about the perfect amount of tongue weight. The fit and finish is mediocre at best. My biggest complaint is that the paint SUCKS. It needs a complete re-paint after 8 years.
Dave
Not that simple if they don't have the hull spec's on the boat being built. But once they have a boat to build the trailer for then it a piece of cake to duplicate. And for some one to get Certified it costs a bunch of money up front and then there's the liability insurance. To many Ambulance chasers out there. I used to buy from VIP Trailers in Chandler, they won't shell out the money the money that it takes to start building again.
I'm pretty sure NGE had it about right.. LOL Because if I said I wanted a brand X trailer and they said no, I'd say see ya.
RD
Dave..I bought a BRAND NEW triple axle Extreme for my boat in 2006. I have no complaints about how it tows at all, It actually tows very nice. It runs straight and true, tracks like a slot car, and has just about the perfect amount of tongue weight. The fit and finish is mediocre at best. My biggest complaint is that the paint SUCKS. It needs a complete re-paint after 8 years.
Dave
I agree with the first sentence. If not them, who?
If your a big time trailer manufacturer why wouldn't you powder coat? Less productive? Too expensive? Need a really big oven?
If your a big time trailer manufacturer why wouldn't you powder coat? Less productive? Too expensive? Need a really big oven?
I agree with the first sentence. If not them, who?
If your a big time trailer manufacturer why wouldn't you powder coat? Less productive? Too expensive? Need a really big oven?
I know it's hard to find an oven that big. It's also not cost effective to have an oven that big because if your not doing a huge trailer who wants to heat 350-400sq ft to do some small job.
Plus powder coating is not UV resistant and would require a clear coating over it to make it UV.
Would that be a twice baked trailer . Once for color second for clear . Would be like the twice baked potatoes . Ha ha . Didn't Alan Hensley powder coat ?
Plus powder coating is not UV resistant and would require a clear coating over it to make it UV.
If your a big time trailer manufacturer why wouldn't you powder coat? Less productive? Too expensive? Need a really big oven?
Would that be a twice baked trailer . Once for color second for clear . Would be like the twice baked potatoes . Ha ha . Didn't Alan Hensley powder coat ?
Wow trailer got here tonight, it's for a new Premier Entertainer 26', 10' wide with. merc 350 verado OB. 1/8" x 2" x 5" side rails and 1/8" x 2" x 3" cross members. Then the customer tells me the brakes don't work at all, what's wrong with this company...
Wow trailer got here tonight, it's for a new Premier Entertainer 26', 10' wide with. merc 350 verado OB. 1/8" x 2" x 5" side rails and 1/8" x 2" x 3" cross members. Then the customer tells me the brakes don't work at all, what's wrong with this company...
That's before zieman bought them and the quality dropped.
Shadow Trailers
www.shadowtrailers.com
3/16 inch Wall Tubing
4 inch Drop 3500 - 5200 lb. Axles
Leaf Spring Suspension
14 - 15 inch Radial Tires
Chrome Wheels View Styles
Diamond Plate Steps
Spare Tire Location
Submersible Inset LED Lighting
1500 lb. XLT Winch
1500 lb. Swivel Jack or 7000 lb. Drop Leg Jack
Carpeted Fender Skirts
2 inch or 2-5/16 inch Coupler
5 Flat or 7 Blade Wiring
Double Safety Cables
Powder Coated Finish
16' - 18' Boats Includes: 3700 lb. Single Axle $4,495.00
19' - 23' Boats Includes: 3700 lb. Tandem Axles & Disc Brakes $5,995.00
24' - 26' Boats Includes: 5200 lb. Tandem Axles & Disc Brakes $6,495.00
27' - 29' Boats Includes: 5200 lb. Triple Axles & Dual Disc Brakes $8,995.00
30' - 33' Boats Includes: 5200 lb. Triple Axles & Dual Disc Brakes $9,995.00
I have a three week old Extreme coming in tomorrow for me to rework, Triple axle, pontoon boat weighs 7600 lbs. tongue weight is 1000 lbs! Hooking up to the tow rig it bows the tongue 4 1/2-5"! Boat sits 9" forward of the rear bunks, in other words there's 9" of bunk sticking out behind the boat. My customer has called Extreme/Zeiman four times and no return phone call or email. It's in his attorneys hands now.
If your a big time trailer manufacturer why wouldn't you powder coat? Less productive? Too expensive? Need a really big oven?
Trail Rite did a bitchen job for my 18 footer this winter. Included the following:
GVWR 2999 (would have been 3500 but I opted out of brakes cause the boat is light)
Tandem axle
Fender pads
Prop guard with rollers
Guides
LED lights
Winch
Aluminum steps
Chrome wheels
Out the door for $3500. Brakes were $400 more if I remember correctly
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Plus powder coating is not UV resistant and would require a clear coating over it to make it UV.
I had my trailer reworked at adrenaline in havasu, new fenders, swing tongue, new fender inners so the fenders "float" (not attached at either end to the trailer and they welded up a tongue jack and rebuilt all of the bearings. They did great work at a good price and I don't see any reason they could build a trailer from scratch.
I'm towing it to kings coatings in Anaheim for Powdercoating, they have a 23 foot oven.
Wow trailer got here tonight, it's for a new Premier Entertainer 26', 10' wide with. merc 350 verado OB. 1/8" x 2" x 5" side rails and 1/8" x 2" x 3" cross members. Then the customer tells me the brakes don't work at all, what's wrong with this company...
So are you doing warranty work for the manufacturer or is this a customer pay deal and he gets to fight it out with the manufacturer?