Weekend carnage and I haven't even left yet

plaster dave · Jul 1, 2015

I hurt the motor over fathers day weekend and my Mehcanic went out to havasu to check it out. We thought I lost a msd box but it ended up I broke a valve spring.
Here's the pics he sent me.

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So he's gonna bring it back to castaic pull the head off and I'm gonna run it the the machine shop then reinstall it and hopefully leave Friday night as long as it didn't tap the piston.
I hope everything works as we are planning.

djunkie · Jul 1, 2015

I feel your pain. I fired mine up today on the hose to check things out. Ran fine for a Couple minutes then it just shut off. No spark. Fuck me. I ordered another new ignition box and having it shipped to my house in havasu.

Always Floored · Jul 1, 2015

Mario stopped by my house this evening and was telling me about this. Small world

2FORCEFULL · Jul 1, 2015

plaster dave said:
I hurt the motor over fathers day weekend and my Mehcanic went out to havasu to check it out. We thought I lost a msd box but it ended up I broke a valve spring.
Here's the pics he sent me.
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So he's gonna bring it back to castaic pull the head off and I'm gonna run it the the machine shop then reinstall it and hopefully leave Friday night as long as it didn't tap the piston.
I hope everything works as we are planning.

why can't you just change the spring???

River Dirt 2 · Jul 1, 2015

Damn Kustom motors, should have got a blue one:yikes

Bigbore500r · Jul 1, 2015

plaster dave said:
I hurt the motor over fathers day weekend and my Mehcanic went out to havasu to check it out. We thought I lost a msd box but it ended up I broke a valve spring.
Here's the pics he sent me.
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So he's gonna bring it back to castaic pull the head off and I'm gonna run it the the machine shop then reinstall it and hopefully leave Friday night as long as it didn't tap the piston.
I hope everything works as we are planning.

Ive had that happen before...broke a dual spring, it stayed partially intact just like yours which kept the valve from dropping and grenading the motor. You can take a straight-edge and lay it across the valve tips. If the valve is @ the same exact height as all the others, it is a pretty safe bet it did not make contact or bend. May save you the tow and head removal if its not needed.
When it happened to my motor...I was able to throw a new spring on and be on my way. May want to swap all 16 to be safe though...may have others that are fatigued or a bad batch that caused that if it seemingly happened without reason

mjc · Jul 1, 2015

I replaced all the spring on my motor without taking the heads off. I think all the tools are still in havasu if you want to try thrm.

ColdSteel · Jul 1, 2015

Lucky that busted spring didn't make the locks let go!

Maybe just change the springs, check the pushrod for straightness and do a compression test.. If that valve got smacked you'll see it in the pressure numbers.

plaster dave · Jul 1, 2015

Never Satisfied said:
Mario stopped by my house this evening and was telling me about this. Small world

Ya he's the best for running out there and trying to save my weekend. Can't say enough good things about him.

2FORCEFULL said:
why can't you just change the spring???

We are. We're bringing it back to his shop in Los Angeles and fix it.

ColdSteel · Jul 1, 2015

What was the motor doing?
Idle okay and pop through the exhaust at RPM?

plaster dave · Jul 1, 2015

Bigbore500r said:
Ive had that happen before...broke a dual spring, it stayed partially intact just like yours which kept the valve from dropping and grenading the motor. You can take a straight-edge and lay it across the valve tips. If the valve is @ the same exact height as all the others, it is a pretty safe bet it did not make contact or bend. May save you the tow and head removal if its not needed.
When it happened to my motor...I was able to throw a new spring on and be on my way. May want to swap all 16 to be safe though...may have others that are fatigued or a bad batch that caused that if it seemingly happened without reason

Motors on its 3rd season. I'm gonna just change the spring if possible and finish the season out and deal with it over winter.

mjc said:
I replaced all the spring on my motor without taking the heads off. I think all the tools are still in havasu if you want to try thrm.

Thank you but he's heading back tomorrow and work on it at his shop.

ColdSteel said:
Lucky that busted spring didn't make the locks let go!

Maybe just change the springs, check the pushrod for straightness and do a compression test.. If that valve got smacked you'll see it in the pressure numbers.

It broke the cup and 3 spring for sure but haven't checked pushrod.

plaster dave · Jul 1, 2015

ColdSteel said:
What was the motor doing?
Idle okay and pop through the exhaust at RPM?

Idle was a little rough but more like fuel pump was intermediate and when I went to get on plane it coughed and shut off. Of all weekends for it to happen I never went over 3400 rpms. Lol

HOOTER SLED- · Jul 1, 2015

Baller problems....

where's the backup boat???

crzy2bealive · Jul 1, 2015

Hope it's a quick fix

plaster dave · Jul 1, 2015

HOOTER SLED- said:
Baller problems.... where's the backup boat???

Torn apart getting redone. [emoji107]🏻[emoji107]🏻 I definitely don't want to rebuild this motor this summer. [emoji16]

HOOTER SLED- · Jul 1, 2015

plaster dave said:
Torn apart getting redone. [emoji107][emoji107] I definitely don't want to rebuild this motor this summer. [emoji16]

Doh!! Thought u were close to done. Haven't peeped that thread lately. U may need to get your boat bitch shoes on.

plaster dave · Jul 1, 2015

HOOTER SLED- said:
Doh!! Thought u were close to done. Haven't peeped that thread lately. U may need to get your boat bitch shoes on.

There ready!! When are we leaving? [emoji12]

HOOTER SLED- · Jul 1, 2015

plaster dave said:
There ready!! When are we leaving? [emoji12]

Lol....I'd be down....but still got a few things myself to do to get back on the water. :grumble:

C-2 · Jul 1, 2015

Good luck with it, that sucks.

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

Well I cancelled my trip and I'm not gonna bandaid it. I'm gonna go threw it completely for my peace of mine.
I will post pics of the build.

lbhsbz · Jul 2, 2015

It takes 10 minutes to change the spring without pulling the head.

Hammer · Jul 2, 2015

plaster dave said:
Well I cancelled my trip and I'm not gonna bandaid it. I'm gonna go threw it completely for my peace of mine.
I will post pics of the build.

I got room in the Hallett if you and the wife want to do Parker this weekend

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

lbhsbz said:
It takes 10 minutes to change the spring without pulling the head.

I know but this is a 700 lift cam blower motor. I will sleep better knowing it's done right. [emoji57]

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

Hammer said:
I got room in the Hallett if you and the wife want to do Parker this weekend

Thank you mike but I'm gonna start on my motor this weekend.

ColdSteel · Jul 2, 2015

plaster dave said:
I know but this is a 700 lift cam blower motor. [emoji57]

That means valve springs are a service item...

What's your new change interval?

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

ColdSteel said:
That means valve springs are a service item...
What's your new change interval?

I was told its just a part failure. That's why I want to go threw the heads.

Hammer · Jul 2, 2015

plaster dave said:
Thank you mike but I'm gonna start on my motor this weekend.

Any time.. Hope it is just a simple rebuild.

tkrrox · Jul 2, 2015

Good thing I didn't buy that motor from you [emoji38]

SummitKarl · Jul 2, 2015

djunkie said:
I feel your pain. I fired mine up today on the hose to check things out. Ran fine for a Couple minutes then it just shut off. No spark. Fuck me. I ordered another new ignition box and having it shipped to my house in havasu.

I am sure I got a spare 6A around MSD = Might Spark Don't know

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

tkrrox said:
Good thing I didn't buy that motor from you [emoji38]

Never was gonna sell it too you. [emoji14]

tkrrox · Jul 2, 2015

plaster dave said:
Never was gonna sell it too you. [emoji14]

Good thing it would've broke on me. Lol

Stainless · Jul 2, 2015

SummitKarl said:
I am sure I got a spare 6A around MSD = Might Spark Don't know

Good one [emoji38]

PaPaG · Jul 2, 2015

plaster dave said:
I know but this is a 700 lift cam blower motor. I will sleep better knowing it's done right. [emoji57]

Sorry to hear the bad news Dave, ALWAYS better safe than sorry, would suck if you were out on the 4th weekend with all the action and you have engine failure even worse if by bandaiding it it causes a lot more damage...get it done right from the start and rest easy with the family out on the water. PS How is the new kid doing?

Joker · Jul 2, 2015

Just read this Dave. Hope the rebuild goes good.:thumbsup
If you ever want to float, let us know.

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

PaPaG said:
Sorry to hear the bad news Dave, ALWAYS better safe than sorry, would suck if you were out on the 4th weekend with all the action and you have engine failure even worse if by bandaiding it it causes a lot more damage...get it done right from the start and rest easy with the family out on the water. PS How is the new kid doing?

Kid is doing great. Thanks for asking. She loves driving the boat.

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plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

Joker said:
Just read this Dave. Hope the rebuild goes good.:thumbsup
If you ever want to float, let us know.

That would be my cheapest weekend with gas. Lol

28Eliminator · Jul 2, 2015

:eek This sucks.. How did I miss this

Im actually a little disappointed Dave, when someone says "Carnage". we expect to see some good stuff... like Rod Ventilated Blocks, sideways pistons, torn off Blowers, and one of my all time favorites... a broken piston up through the middle of the block breaking the cam in half and cracking the intake :thumbup:.

If your gonna do it, do it right and quite bothering us with this menial pesky little broken spring crap

J/K

it sounded fine when I saw you..

Joker · Jul 2, 2015

plaster dave said:
Kid is doing great. Thanks for asking. She loves driving the boat.
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Your daughter looks good in that drivers seat Dave. Times you 2 will never forget.[emoji106]

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

28Eliminator said:
:eek This sucks.. How did I miss this

Im actually a little disappointed Dave, when someone says "Carnage". we expect to see some good stuff... like Rod Ventilated Blocks, sideways pistons, torn off Blowers, and one of my all time favorites... a broken piston up through the middle of the block breaking the cam in half and cracking the intake :thumbup:.

If your gonna do it, do it right and quite bothering us with this menial pesky little broken spring crap

J/K it sounded fine when I saw you..

It happened Sunday night leaving the turtle. [emoji107]🏻

djunkie · Jul 2, 2015

SummitKarl said:
I am sure I got a spare 6A around MSD = Might Spark Don't know

It's almost here. [emoji3]

RVRKID · Jul 2, 2015

Was your boat heading across the 40 this morning?

plaster dave · Jul 2, 2015

RVRKID said:
Was your boat heading across the 40 this morning?

Yes so-cal speed and marine was bringing it back to la for me

RVRKID · Jul 2, 2015

I thought so, only know yours and my buddies Dad that had that paint!

Mrs.Racer277 · Jul 3, 2015

plaster dave said:
I hurt the motor over fathers day weekend and my Mehcanic went out to havasu to check it out. We thought I lost a msd box but it ended up I broke a valve spring.
Here's the pics he sent me.
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So he's gonna bring it back to castaic pull the head off and I'm gonna run it the the machine shop then reinstall it and hopefully leave Friday night as long as it didn't tap the piston.
I hope everything works as we are planning.

Oh not good :thumbsdown

Halvecto · Jul 3, 2015

plaster dave said:
Yes so-cal speed and marine was bringing it back to la for me

That is the kind of stuff Mario will do. He and George are good people. I picked up my Vector from them last week. I had it in for oil change and drive service. Turned out I needed my trailer brakes worked on. George took care of it. :thumbup: I have seen your boats there often.

Take a look at the Howard deck boat in the shop that Mario is rigging. Neat boat. Not my taste, but awfully nice rig.

plaster dave · Jul 3, 2015

Mrs.Racer277 said:
Oh not good :thumbsdown

Nope it sucks but oh well.

Halvecto said:
That is the kind of stuff Mario will do. He and George are good people. I picked up my Vector from them last week. I had it in for oil change and drive service. Turned out I needed my trailer brakes worked on. George took care of it. :thumbup: I have seen your boats there often.

Take a look at the Howard deck boat in the shop that Mario is rigging. Neat boat. Not my taste, but awfully nice rig.

I agree 100% with you. He's the best in the business. That's why I always refer him to people.

plaster dave · Jul 9, 2015

So started tearing into it and there's 2 broken springs 1 broken keeper and lots of metal shavings so I'm glad I didn't just throw a spring and go.
Gonna finishing tearing it apart Saturday and see how far the rebuild is gonna go.

djunkie · Jul 9, 2015

plaster dave said:
So started tearing into it and there's 2 broken springs 1 broken keeper and lots of metal shavings so I'm glad I didn't just throw a spring and go.
Gonna finishing tearing it apart Saturday and see how far the rebuild is gonna go.

That sucks. Hopefully nothing else pops up when you get it all apart.

plaster dave · Jul 9, 2015

djunkie said:
That sucks. Hopefully nothing else pops up when you get it all apart.

Thanks. [emoji16]

fmo24 · Jul 9, 2015

Have you ever thought about running your turbo motor? I would imagine it would not be cheap to do exhaust and plumbing though just for a season or the time it takes to rebuild this motor

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