what do you do?

Park there.

bad spot for a hydrant

Keep looking. It's a trap!

Not park there. Whoever striped the lot didn't do too good a job marking the place.

I would park there because it doesn't say no parking or lines through the parking spot.

plaster dave said:

I would park there because it doesn't say no parking or lines through the parking spot.

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red zones don't need signage. once a curb is red it's automatically law. my company paint apt complexs for free in hopes of getting tows from them. at no point can anything other than an EMS vehicle be parked against a red curb. doesn't matter if is private or public property.

being in the tow industry I'd NEVER park here.

HST4ME said:

Park there.

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it's a tow able violation according to the law.

Push the car in front out of the way and just pull forward

my favorite people at our window are the red zone violators. they all have the same excuse.

I was only there for 5 min.

bullshit! my guys take 8 pictures and then hook up the car. that's 15 min alone.

they argue at the window then I walk up and politely ask them "are you an EMS worker in an EMS vehicle?"

the answer is obviously no then I tell them sorry, tow is legal. if you want you car pay me. have a nice day.

McRib said:

red zones don't need signage. once a curb is red it's automatically law. my company paint apt complexs for free in hopes of getting tows from them. at no point can anything other than an EMS vehicle be parked against a red curb. doesn't matter if is private or public property.

being in the tow industry I'd NEVER park here.

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I would disagree with you but you know better then me. I would think as long as they can park behind you and run a hose to the hydrant then they still have access. Also I a handicap spot has to have a sign on the ground and on a poll in front of it. I know private property like malls almost never enforce these laws.

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I would disagree with you but you know better then me. I would think as long as they can park behind you and run a hose to the hydrant then they still have access. Also I a handicap spot has to have a sign on the ground and on a poll in front of it. I know private property like malls almost never enforce these laws.

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this stall is definitely a grey area. we could say the same about parking in the first spot next to a handicap spot but law states handicap stalls are very specific. it's about the actual parking space and clearance. parking next to a hydrant in on itself has its own rules as well. hydrants on a city street to have red zones but law states a footage clearance to either side of it.

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Horrible place for a hydrant. Both stalls next to the hydrant should be red striped at a 45 degree angle, and the red curb should be labeled "no parking fire lane" on both sides.

McRib said:

my company paint apt complexs for free in hopes of getting tows from them.

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Community service. Noted.

Yikes, I could see myself being really tired, not seeing the curb or the fire hydrant and being really pissed after i would come back out to a missing big ass truck

yz450mm said:

Horrible place for a hydrant. Both stalls next to the hydrant should be red striped at a 45 degree angle, and the red curb should be labeled "no parking fire lane" on both sides.

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Per code the fire hydrant is supposed to be 2' maximum from the edge of the front curb. Sometimes pipe bollards are required. And yes we do repair a lot of fire hydrants being hit by cars. But mostly big trucks that can't see them. The fire hydrants have a maximum distance between hydrants so sometimes its difficult to put them to meet code You can see the road box / control valve on the other side of the hydrant. Usually the road box would be in the asphalt and the hydrant in the island. No need to paint the curb red if installed the normal way.

Parking stall should have hash stripes, looks like a trap to me.

This is what I will be doing!

throttle said:

This is what I will be doing!

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Too bad they weren't about 2 ft further forward. You could of blown out windows and run hose through car. That would be a funny picture.

There is a chance I played part in this,



Just sayin...

throttle said:

There is a chance I played part in this,

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Just sayin...

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OCFA vs LACSD...:skull

PokerRun388 said:

Well I wouldn't park there & apparently I'm not the only one lol

But damn, that is very confusing for shoppers, no doubt, although we all know that parking in a red zone & blocking a hydrant are both illegal. I wonder why there are no 'no parking' markings in that parking stall? I guess that BMW owner thought it was ok....

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When plans are submitted to plan check one of the things they look for is a parking ratio vs occupancy load. Sometimes it's very close on how many minimum spots they have to park including handicap stalls. I doubt they gave up these 2 spots plus any other conflicts like this on the plans. My quess is the installer didn't read the surveyors stakes right during installation and nobody fixed it when the parking was done at the end of the job.

The hydrant lateral needs to be extended out to the the radius and both spots opened up. If left that way they need to put diagonal lines on both spots.

Carry some white paint.. Problem solved.

Bobby V said:

When plans are submitted to plan check one of the things they look for is a parking ratio vs occupancy load. Sometimes it's very close on how many minimum spots they have to park including handicap stalls. I doubt they gave up these 2 spots plus any other conflicts like this on the plans. My quess is the installer didn't read the surveyors stakes right during installation and nobody fixed it when the parking was done at the end of the job.

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Possibly. If I was the inspector it would be the plans or the survey that was wrong.

Seriously, I saw all three.:grumble:

FreeBird236 said:

Possibly. If I was the inspector it would be the plans or the survey that was wrong.

Seriously, I saw all three.:grumble:

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Our UG guy retired a few years back. He was very good at reading the survey stakes. He would also measure from the hydrant to the key valve and write the distance on top of the hydrant. No matter how carefull you are the grader or the asphalt guy would cover up the road box and we would have to go dig it up. :grumble:

Bobby V said:

Our UG guy retired a few years back. He was very good at reading the survey stakes. He would also measure from the hydrant to the key valve and write the distance on top of the hydrant. No matter how carefull you are the grader or the asphalt guy would cover up the road box and we would have to go dig it up. :grumble:

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Probably the number one problem. If they're just covered it's one thing, if they are graded out or destroyed quite another.:thumbsdown

throttle said:

There is a chance I played part in this,

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Please tell me there was a window punch involved...

yz450mm said:

Please tell me there was a window punch involved...

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Have you ever seen a cop with the window down? I haven't they are always running the engine and ac

Buena park and norwalk on the same scene, hmmm

Rsqfxr said:

Buena park and norwalk on the same scene, hmmm

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you know... one of those training deals... was prolly close to 15 years ago.