CobraDave
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Is Desert Storm here yet?
Its not ok like I said, but reality. Sat school is hardly on the chopping block. You missed the whole point of the post.
In her area and demographic, there is zero parent involvement.
The classroom is too large and is a constant fight to keep the kids on task. When parents question, argue, then undermine the teacher's decision, it makes them less affective in the future because they have less credibility.
Breaking the rules is not a mistake, its a choice.
Spoke to my wife about this; a 10 year elementary school teacher in the glorious Fontana Unified SD. She is happy any form a punishment was given. At her school kids get punched in the face and only lose recess. ( As a parent I might have a problem with that).
In her area and demographic, there is zero parent involvement.
The classroom is too large and is a constant fight to keep the kids on task. When parents question, argue, then undermine the teacher's decision, it makes them less affective in the future because they have less credibility.
Even though the punishment maybe doesn't fit the crime, by standing by your kids teacher might go a longer way than you think.
The whole point of the post is, this kid doesn't give a fuck about rules and has no clue what no means...
So let's just pretend here, kid's chewing gum before school, walks into class and forgets it's tucked in his lip, choice or just an innocent mistake? This isn't a serious school infraction.
Are you saying that in a CA school district that there is over crowding in classrooms? I know a shit load about schools in this area, Chaffey, Fontana, Upland USD's and if in fact the violence you speak of is occurring there is a major problem, staring with teachers, security up to admin at your wife's school.
You passing judgement on someones kid makes you look like an asshole!!
So something that costs a school thousand a year to clean up is not serious?
So something that costs a school thousand a year to clean up is not serious?
So something that costs a school thousand a year to clean up is not serious?
It gives the janitors something to do at least.:rolleyes
And no I don't think it's "serious", but a problem none the less.
Now the millions the kids throw away in food because of what's been mandated as acceptable food....that's "Serious"
Or the money that is poured into indigent families that take advantage and abuse the system.
MILLIONS upon MILLIONS YB!!
When stumped in an argument....... Reach for the stars .....
Ye
When I was in school and I got in trouble for breaking the rules, my pops never said, "well what was the rule, let me see if I agree?" No, I pretty much reaped what I sow with the full support of my parents. If I acted up at a friends house and was disciplined by their parents, they had full support of mine. Not, how dare you yell at, or punish my kid. I'm gonna go kick your ass. Nobody's accountable for their god damn actions....
My daughter says it's a 2hr referral detention for chewing gum. Saturday detention is for serious offenses. Like cross dressing or something like that.
I wouldn't have a problem with that. That actually sounds pretty reasonable. And yes this school has lunch detentions. Sit in office do nothing all lunch break.
Yellow boat.... You sir are awesome. I have no doubt we will be calling your child mr./mrs. President one day. Keep up the good work:thumbsup
On a side note. My gum chewing son is in the navel sea cadets. In fact he is a petty officer 2nd class. He is the leader of his unit... Top dog!! Spent all day last sat at camp pendalton watching him do drill competitions. His team came in first place. He is very serious about this unit. He is 12 and already aiming toward life goals. Spends a lot of time studying so he can rank up. He tells me all the time he's gonna join air force and be military police. Then he wants to be a cop after. He's a very drivin kid, always has been.
Old tex.
<-------- drives a dump truck. Not rich
HM
Classic. :thumbsup
I wouldn't have a problem with that. That actually sounds pretty reasonable. And yes this school has lunch detentions. Sit in office do nothing all lunch break.
Yellow boat.... You sir are awesome. I have no doubt we will be calling your child mr./mrs. President one day. Keep up the good work:thumbsup
On a side note. My gum chewing son is in the navel sea cadets. In fact he is a petty officer 2nd class. He is the leader of his unit... Top dog!! Spent all day last sat at camp pendalton watching him do drill competitions. His team came in first place. He is very serious about this unit. He is 12 and already aiming toward life goals. Spends a lot of time studying so he can rank up. He tells me all the time he's gonna join air force and be military police. Then he wants to be a cop after. He's a very drivin kid, always has been.
Old tex.
<-------- drives a dump truck. Not rich
HM
Classic. :thumbsup
I wouldn't have a problem with that. That actually sounds pretty reasonable. And yes this school has lunch detentions. Sit in office do nothing all lunch break.
Yellow boat.... You sir are awesome. I have no doubt we will be calling your child mr./mrs. President one day. Keep up the good work:thumbsup
On a side note. My gum chewing son is in the navel sea cadets. In fact he is a petty officer 2nd class. He is the leader of his unit... Top dog!! Spent all day last sat at camp pendalton watching him do drill competitions. His team came in first place. He is very serious about this unit. He is 12 and already aiming toward life goals. Spends a lot of time studying so he can rank up. He tells me all the time he's gonna join air force and be military police. Then he wants to be a cop after. He's a very drivin kid, always has been.
Old tex.
<-------- drives a dump truck. Not rich
HM
Classic. :thumbsup
It's sad how in 100 years we went from a couple whacks by the principal to Sat. school and lawyering up over routine stuff...
It's sad how in 100 years we went from a couple whacks by the principal to Sat. school and lawyering up over routine stuff...
RD has a rule (possibly more?) Be nice or leave. What say ye stone throwers?
I say...
Where the fuck is Larry H. Parker when you need him???
:grumble:
God I hope not.
Then he should know how important it is to follow the rules.
Old tex.
<-------- drives a dump truck. Not rich
My parents would have been pissed if I got a Sat. detention.
The "breaking rules" part, they would have backed the teacher.
They would guilt me about how this was a "bigger punishment" to them, because they had to break-up a Sat. to cart my ass to school and then pick me up.
My cut and paste wasn't aimed at you.......Was aimed in jest at WW and his attorney:skull
Your kid sounds like a great young man and I'd be proud of his hard work.:thumbsup
Sat detention for gum chewing is ridiculous.
I'm just throwing out typical RDP forum shit bombs so don't take 'em serious.:thumbsup:skull
I wasnt. And yes. He makes me very proud, all 3 of my kids do. :thumbsup
Broke the rules, do the time. Gotta be more to this story.
Undermine the school your child will quickly see that if he doesn't like something he doesn't have to abide by it.
Did he know it was against school policy, yes. Sat detention albeit a little overboard, but he will follow rules better in the future. Why does it have to be negotiated.
I believe in installing discipline and you will get respect.
P.S. you could get a lawyer and negotiate for after school detention.
Why does there have to be more to the story?
Dude shut the fock up! Seriously, you're an idiot and a loser!!! All this over a 12 year old chewing gum. You make it seem like this is the beginning of his downward spiral into the dark side. Yeah gum this week, weed next, sex the week after, by June he'll be be in rehab and it all started by chewing gum. :rolleyes
I have a suggestion for you and all of these higher than thou teachers/administration personnel. Rather than watching kids chewing gum, using their phones for texting or some other minor bs, they need to step it up and weed all these predators (pedophiles) who interact with everyones kids on a daily basis.
I think there is a lesson to be learned here.... Always swallow. :thumbsup :skull
You're welcome.
Because I was young once.
I'm sure this was his first time being told. I'm also sure that the teacher has never had to stop lecturing students their education to deal with this situation or something else.