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[spectra3279]

Ok, I am going to take it next week to get upholstered. I have decided to go with Martinez marine interiors. They gave me a good quote and made some suggestions that were good. So I will go with them.

They say it will take about 1 week so Havasu Labor day weekend mother fockers.

 

[alohajeff]

well, Ran the boat hard on Friday. It will do around 85... I broke a rib...

85mph is kick ass!

Broken rib sucks ass.

Aloha

 

[spectra3279]

Well dropped the boat off at the upholsters yesterday. 5.6K DAMN:cry:

But having them do a lot. Replacing the entire headliner in the cabin, Headliner is huge. modifying the seats, building a few things. and making a cover for the cockpit. recovering everything and coating all the wood with fiberglass. adding cupholders with mounts for some 6x9 speakers in them. recessed so they dont get wet easy. Plus a bunch of other stuff.

They say they should have it done by next friday. So its in time for labor day weekend. Will be at havasu then.

 

[spectra3279]

Well supposed to pick up the boat Saturday. Went last saturday to check out the colors i picked out and it looked really good.

Went with a medium grey interior with a red white and black stripes. Looks really good. Had them do some customizing on the seats so they have head rests now. Down in the cabin I had them do the Headliner in a light grey. Rest of the cabin is original. When I pick it up I will post some pics of it.

 

[Barney]

Well don't have any tits to post. Still looking and any help would be appreciated.

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[Barney]

Damn tapatalk crashed if I attach more than one pic.

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[Barney]

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[spectra3279]

Ok, Picked it up from the upholstery guys yesterday. Was to exited to take pictures and took it right to the water.

Today just had to much stuff to do so still didnt get pictues. I had to change breaks and one rotor on my truck, then put a stereo in the boat. It sounds great for just 4 6x9 and a deck. No amps or anything yet. Thats gonna be a longer project this winter. I have room for 2 more 6x9 and 4 10"s. Plus 2 12"s if I need them. Gonna run about 3000 watts total. Should be loud.

I will get some pictures in the morning when its light. I took one but its really dark. But you can see what it looks like. Just overlook the mess. I had just finished the stereo.

 

[spectra3279]

got some pictures on my phone. Will post later today. forgot to send them to my email address so I can post them

 

[spectra3279]

Here you go

 

[FrznJim]

New interior looks great! Did you have new seat bases built or reuse the old ones? Did Martinez do any work in the cabin?

 

[Barney]

I built all new seats and seat bases. Martinez did do some modifications. I had them make the bench base taller and make headrests. They did a whole new headliner in the cabin and carpet. Seats and cushions were good. Don't really match but I wanted something original.

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[Barney]

They also did a cover for the cockpit.

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[spectra3279]

Ok, Had some issues this weekend, but all but one have been fixed.

1. Had a trim pump go out. the other one. Changed brushes and it fixed it. Brushes were completely gone. as in nothing but the braided wire left.
Took a couple of hours to fix. Don't know if I got the wrong solder or if the bensomatic soldering iron I got was foobar but it would not melt the solder unless I used the flame. fixed it but it didn't work. Had to pull the motor housing and armature and take it home to fix. Couldn't raise the engine so it had to spend the night and morning at the marina parking lot on the island. They didn't like that but oh well.

2. sprung a major oil leak in the port engine. Don't know where its coming from. Didn't notice it until oil pressure was down to 10 psi at idle. Maybe killed some bearing don't know yet. will have to pull engine to find out about the bearings and find the oil leak.

3. tongue of trailer is heavy duty with big steel rollers to help it move in and out for the surge brakes. Well. got stuck in the drive way in havasu and had to call AAA to come and pull me out. Trailer was off the driveway and sitting leaning really bad. wrecker pulled me out and I think it binded and bent the ears that the roller was held on by. Lost the roller. Have to have a friend machine a new one. Brakes didn't work as good after. or really I had to apply more brakes on the truck to get the breaks on the trailer to work.

4. On the way home lost the wheel bearings on the port side rear wheel. had to drive about 3 miles at 10mph to Orielly's by London bridge. Changed it in the parking lot.


Im at work and Im tired and sore. this sucks.

 

[FrznJim]

Whoa, that's not a good weekend, especially in the heat in Havasu.

Reminds me of the time we were towing our 24Spectra from Las Vegas to Phoenix, the rubber literally flew off the tires. Had to buy two new tires in Wickenburg.....

Hope your motor is okay and no damage, cross your fingers???

 

[spectra3279]

Yeah it was still a fun weekend. gonna pull motor this weekend or next to try and find the oil leak and check bearings for scoring. I hope they werent hurt. But what do you expect, the boat was sitting in a guys back yard for 6-8 years. I dont think it has seen water for 12 years before I got it. I was lucky the engines still ran.

I only have 17K in it so I dont think I can lose on it.

 

[spectra3279]

some pics from the weekend. I was the probably the only long haired redneck out there.

 

[spectra3279]

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[spectra3279]

Still have an oil leak, Have not found it, but problem was with wiring to oil sending unit. Dont think it hurt the engine. I dont hear any noise and oil didnt have any metal in it.

I think I am going to change it to use the good old mechanical gauges. I dont trust the electric ones after this.

 

[spectra3279]

Oh, yeah, I also found out I only have regular car oil pans. I will be changing those soon.

 

[poncho]

Outstanding job on the boat, truly unique for sure. You dont seem fazed by much.
Sitting here pissing and moaning about a dead starter yesterday, your posting made me quit bitchen:thumbsup

 

[CampbellCarl]

I wouldn't think that auto oil pans would be so bad in that application. Flywheel driven drives puts the sump/pump/distributor toward the back of the boat so when the bow noses up on accelration the oil would gather at the back of the pan, right where the pump is.

Carl

 

[alohajeff]

While the location of the sump isn't an issue the capacity might be. One possible issue with the smaller sumps could be oil starvation at higher RPM's. The oil has to bleed back to the sump as fast the oil is being sucked up by the pump... otherwise it will start to suck air. If these engines were rebuilt with a high volume pump it might be even worse off than if it had standard volume pumps. More pump volume usually requires a larger reservoir. I think ditching the small-ish Auto pans is a good idea. And I dig this thread. Can-Do-Attitude!

I don't know exactly how much oil is circulating at a constant 4500rpm in an average BBC. I've heard it's around 4 quarts. If that is true that doesn't leave a whole lot of oil in the pan for G-forces, bouncing around, etc.

Aloha

 

[spectra3279]

I wouldn't think that auto oil pans would be so bad in that application. Flywheel driven drives puts the sump/pump/distributor toward the back of the boat so when the bow noses up on accelration the oil would gather at the back of the pan, right where the pump is.

Carl

That is true, but I like the idea of having more oil. a boat motor is always under load so the oil gets hot. I want the extra oil to help keep it cool. Plus,with an oil leak like I had I would rather still have more than 2 quarts left in the pan.

 

[spectra3279]

While the location of the sump isn't an issue the capacity might be. One possible issue with the smaller sumps could be oil starvation at higher RPM's. The oil has to bleed back to the sump as fast the oil is being sucked up by the pump... otherwise it will start to suck air. If these engines were rebuilt with a high volume pump it might be even worse off than if it had standard volume pumps. More pump volume usually requires a larger reservoir. I think ditching the small-ish Auto pans is a good idea. And I dig this thread. Can-Do-Attitude!

I don't know exactly how much oil is circulating at a constant 4500rpm in an average BBC. I've heard it's around 4 quarts. If that is true that doesn't leave a whole lot of oil in the pan for G-forces, bouncing around, etc.

Aloha

The boat is a 1979 boat, I dont know if motors have been rebuilt or not. But I gotta pay if Im gonna play, hence the can do attitude. As long as Im not loosing body parts its no big deal.

Thanks for liking it.

 

[spectra3279]

Outstanding job on the boat, truly unique for sure. You dont seem fazed by much.
Sitting here pissing and moaning about a dead starter yesterday, your posting made me quit bitchen:thumbsup

Thanks. trying to make it more current but keep the old skool traditions. Making it my way.

 

[spectra3279]

Well, looks like I gotta pull a motor. Even with a nice new mechanical oil pressure gauge, I have lost about 40 psi of oil pressure in the port motor.

Oh well at least I will get to see what is in it and what shape its in. This should be a decent gauge for the other engine also.

 

[spectra3279]

Ok, spent the weekend pulling the port engine. what a pain.

But I found out where my oil was leaking from. Seems the previous owner forgot to mention that the oil drains in the pan had been hooked up to a hose. this hose was supposed to have been capped off. This hose was also supposed to have been tied up so that it couldnt fall into the bilge.

Well guess what. It wasnt capped off, It wasnt tied off so it would not fall. and all the oil was draining out the hose. So much for a leak. Well there was no way I could see under the motor. Im not a midget or a leprechaun.

Now the really sad part. I spun 1 main bearing and eat up all the other mains. I have not pulled a rod cap off yet to check them.

So block will have to go to machine shop for line bore and maybe a few rods. Also getting block and heads boiled out. found a shit load of sand in the block.

Well at least now I can look at the engines and find out what shape they are in and see everything even under them.

 

[spectra3279]

Ok, need some help guys. Would anyone have any of the manuals or know where I can find them for the Telcor speed indicators from the 70's /80's? I would like to get mine working and the cables were cut. ITs an all electric unit with some kind of through hull fitting.



thanks.

 

[spectra3279]

Well here is some pics of my engine and of the empty side of my boat.

 

[spectra3279]

If you look at the oil pan, you can see chunks of copper from the main bearings.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

They don't give ya much room between the engines do they?
Looks like a lot of work, bummer about the bottom end, but like you said you will know what is going on, at least with the port engine.

 

[spectra3279]

Not much at all. I think I have about 1/2 inch between exhaust manifolds.

 

[spectra3279]

Block, heads, crank and intake are at the machine shop now. Hoping to have them back at the end of the week.

 

[spectra3279]

Gotta call from the machine shop today. The Block was originaly bored out 30 thousandths to big for the pistons. Plus it need line boring. Its already a sixty over bore. Had to buy a new block. Crank already had a 30 thousandths grind on one of the journals so New crank. Cam is not a marine cam either, to much overlap. Well the cam I will live with for a while.

Got to much other stuff to buy to put motor back together. Dont wanna have to buy 2 cams and lifter sets right now.

rocker arms were wore and have been really hot so new ones of those also.




B.O.A.T Bust out another thousand.

 

[alohajeff]

Bummer. I had a similar rebuild scenario and would have sold the boat if I had to drop the coin on 2 motors.

Aloha

 

[spectra3279]

Only one engine is messed up, but if I go changing cams I have to do it on each. So holding off on that.

 

[spectra3279]

Ok, Picked up the parts from the machine shop today. Ouch, that hurt my wallet. 3k for machine work and another block and crank.

 

[spectra3279]

This is what it looks like rd. Had it apart and its got lots of electronics in it.

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[RiverDave]

WTF is that thing? Where did it go?

RD

 

[spectra3279]

It goes thru the Hull about 3 feet forward of transom and one foot port of keel.


Here is the gauge.

One is showing 20mph from ohmmeter.

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[spectra3279]

This was on top of the sensor. So I know its for speedometers.

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[RiverDave]

I know you're trying to keep this old school, but wouldn't it be easier to just ditch all this bullshit and get some gauges that look old school?

RD

 

[spectra3279]

yea it would, but its got my curiosity going.

Can be a bad thing sometimes. :grumble:




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[Quick99]

Great project. Them pistons have a nice dome on em. Interior came out nice.

 

[spectra3279]

Thanks. Should be able to order the last parts needed to finish motors in a couple of weeks.

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[spectra3279]

This is gonna be my new dash. Its teak.

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[spectra3279]

Gonna use several applications of resin until it's shiny like glass

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[spectra3279]

Anybody got any suggestions on what to use and how to make it come out like a really nice bar top?

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[spectra3279]

I can get 3m polyester resin by the gallon pretty cheap. Will this work or should I use something else. No structural just want a clean smooth glossy look.

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