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I might be one of the dummest mutherfuckers you will ever meet.
Why, because I have to learn lessons the hard way.

What is this lesson: When it comes to work/compensation. Its not about how much you make, its about how much you keep.
So Fuck California. I have made more than most, but wasnt able to keep much at all.

I will most likely be outta here around Jan 2022. Most likely heading to Reno.

Why:
I believe in many things. But I truly believe that criminals will continue to be criminals, until you make their lives miserable enough to change there ways. Well Ca, doesnt arrest/prosecute/investigate crimes any more, so criminals are in paradise. LBZ… cracked me the fuck up on his post. Cat Thieves (BTW… I would just open the door and let little miss Nelly my Black Lab from hell on there ass. They would not have had a exit plan for her. That bitch hates strangers at night. )

Combine that with most likely the highest tax’s in and cost of living in the United States.
State Income Tax, Gas Tax, Property Taxs, Sales Tax, Housing Cost, Water, Gas, Auto Registration, Groceries and on and on.
Lets not stop there. What the fuck do you get for all of this $$$ paid into the system…
How do the schools rank… not so good
How do the roads rank… yeah not so good
WIth almost the highest electricity cost…. Why does the power continuely get shut off… I have the answers to that one. But I cant solve the political problems that created it.
How does the public transportation rank… oppp thats not a fair question, its beyond worthless, and they find ways to add taxs to the above and still not spend a dime on fixing fucking problems.
How many billions are spent on homeless… hummm why is the population going up????
Tax Payers are treated like shit, Law Enforcement is treated like shit,

I can keep this going all night.

Fuck CA… fuck the lieing ass politicians that are capable of manipulating the stupid mfuckers into re electing them, while they fuck them. Dumb sum bitchs just re elect the same fuckers year after year, who continue to break it off in there ass..

I am sick and tired of being surrounded by Stupid.

Moving on. Most likely heading to Reno… So any RDPers in Reno… I am looking for new friends.

FUCK CALIFORNIA… I am only 2 bourbons in… ask me how I really fell after 4-5…
 
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All good points.

What was the last straw?
 

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I might be one of the dummest mutherfuckers you will ever meet.
Why, because I have to learn lessons the hard way.

What is this lesson: When it comes to work/compensation. Its not about how much you make, its about how much you keep.
So Fuck California. I have made more than most, but wasnt able to keep much at all.

I will most likely be outta here around Jan 2022. Most likely heading to Reno.

Why:
I believe in many things. But I truly believe that criminals will continue to be criminals, until you make their lives miserable enough to change there ways. Well Ca, doesnt arrest/prosecute/investigate crimes any more, so criminals are in paradise. LBZ… cracked me the fuck up on his post. Cat Thieves (BTW… I would just open the door and let little miss Nelly my Black Lab from hell on there ass. They would not have had a exit plan for her. That bitch hates strangers at night. )

Combine that with most likely the highest tax’s in and cost of living in the United States.
State Income Tax, Gas Tax, Property Taxs, Sales Tax, Housing Cost, Water, Gas, Auto Registration, Groceries and on and on.
Lets not stop there. What the fuck do you get for all of this $$$ paid into the system…
How do the schools rank… not so good
How do the roads rank… yeah not so good
WIth the almost the highest electricity cost…. Why does the power continuely get shut off… I have the answers to that one. But I cant solve the political problems that created it.
How does the public transportation rank… oppp thats not a fair question, its beyond worthless, and they find ways to add taxs to the above and still not spend a dime on fixing fucking problems.
How many billions are spent on homeless… hummm why is the population going up????
Tax Payers are treated like shit, Law Enforcement is treated like shit,

I can keep this going all night.

Fuck CA… fuck the lieing ass politicians that are capable of manipulating the stupid mfuckers into re electing them, while they fuck them. Dumb sum bitchs just re elect the same fuckers year after year, who continue to break it off in there ass..

I am sick and tired of being surrounded by Stupid.

Moving on. Most likely heading to Reno… So any RDPers in Reno… I am looking for new friends.

FUCK CALIFORNIA… I am only 2 bourbons in… ask me how I really fell after 4-5…
I can’t find anything wrong with your post except I thought all labs are friendly. Lol
 

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Reno’s closed!

Our government is trying their hardest to mimic California. Way too much growth, way too fast. Love the seasons, but population growth, traffic, etc is getting worse, way too fast.
 

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All good points.

What was the last straw?
Professionally, I am in a position to make a change with out it impacting my income.
In the past, I would have had to start over, if I had moved. In my profession, thats a huge risk.

Honestly, Crime…. Was my last last straw.

Sick and tired of criminals not being arrested, or chased.
Combine that with the overall cost of living… What the fuck do you get for that $$$..

One of the most valuable lessons that I taught my kids and all of my customers.
ROI Return On Investment.
I thought I new enough to educate people on that topic in the past.

Obviously I am one dumb mfucker… Because I moved to Ca in 1991 while I was in the Navy, and didnt leave. Put up with this shit and cost of living since 1991. Telling people about ROI for many years… yet how much have I been paying and what the fuck did I get in return… yep… I finally figured it out.

I am leaving alot of friends and family.

Staying is no longer an option
 

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Just poured #3… thanks for asking…. And its Makers Mark.

I am on a business trip… in Waukesha Wi, in a hotel room. Looking at houses in Reno… fuck, I thought my $$$ would go further there.

Where are you headed dezrtracer?

I would love to head back to Texas, where I was born and raised, but professionally, its best for me to be in the West… and do my best to keep the power on there. Only if those dumb fucks would listen, my job would be alot easier.

I think I just came up with my $$$$ Million Dollar marketing idea…
Bumper Stickers. With a the outline of the borders of the state of ca, with the words
“Surrounded by Stupid”

Fuck, I might be a future millionaire… I need to get on shark tank, and pitch it.

Then we sell Tee Shirts, Sweaters, then I license it to Riverdave, who pays me royalties to use my great idea, and I buy more bourbon… and a 3 axle trailer / schiada…. But I wont tow it with a F150, fuck that. I do have some standards. I might lower them to dodge. But what am I saying here… I am a future millionaire… Denali is in my future. Fuck yeah..

Lets with what great idea bourbon #4 and 5 brings us?
 

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Ca was good for one thing bought house in 2000 sold in 2020. Got out for a few reasons wasn’t for us anymore and seeing the news glad we did.
 

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Reno’s closed!

Our government is trying their hardest to mimic California. Way too much growth, way too fast. Love the seasons, but population growth, traffic, etc is getting worse, way too fast.
@Xring01 what he said. Nevada has been a blue state for a few years now. Their governor isnt much better. I have lots of family in Vegas and that the only reason I would move there. That and the lake, gambling, the desert, etc ;)
 

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Which scam? The vax mandate for kids in schools scam or the kids sex change without parent consent scam?

There will be no more single family home builds allowed.

My friend works for KB Homes, and I just had dinner with him.

He also said there is no more single family zoning allowed, so people can build whatever they want on their lots.

KB has some tracts in SoCal that have good size lots available. He said the Chinese investors are buying them as they come online, with the intention of putting apartments in, after the houses are built.

Fucking insane.
 

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Everyone runs from California and the screws up all the states around it ,the fights here ! As California goes as goes the nation it's the oldest saying around. We get it your mad your pissed off and you're not going to take it anymore, than do something about it write your congress person, your local representitive raise hell the squeaky wheel gets greased how do you think it got the way it is ?
 

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@Xring01 what he said. Nevada has been a blue state for a few years now. Their governor isnt much better. I have lots of family in Vegas and that the only reason I would move there. That and the lake, gambling, the desert, etc ;)
Well lets get back to the beginning of what I stated.
It not what you earn, its what you keep.
My rough red neck math, is telling me I am a minimum $20K/year positive if I make that move.
I am not saying everyones math will match mine.
But I am advising… Take a look at your cost of living and create your own spread sheet and do you own match.

Trust me. I have spreadsheet, outlining my math/ taxs / etc. etc etc… my spreadsheet tells me I am a fool for not doing this along time ago.

So $20k/year, invested at 8% ROI for 15-20 years…. That shit can add up in a hurry.

Go look at the other thread about 2021 Stock Market… lots of great info there.

Obviously dont listen to everything I say… I am dumb fucker who created both threads.

But I do share what I have learned and why. So maybe the message could be how it applys to your situation, and how you can get to where you want to be in life.
 

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If you need to stay west Henderson Nv is ok . Its not paradise but i have no regrets . Not once in 2 years have i felt i made a mistake leaving california .
 

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Everyone runs from California and the screws up all the states around it ,the fights here ! As California goes as goes the nation it's the oldest saying around. We get it your mad your pissed off and you're not going to take it anymore, than do something about it write your congress person, your local representitive raise hell the squeaky wheel gets greased how do you think it got the way it is ?
I totally dissagree with that.
Totally, I can personally name many cops/firefighters/FBI/ retired Utility Engineers that are all personal friends of mine who took money an ran. They ran for a reason…. To get away from stupid, and have basic freedoms without stupid cost of living.
 

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I totally dissagree with that.
Totally, I can personally name many cops/firefighters/FBI/ retired Utility Engineers that are all personal friends of mine who took money an ran. They ran for a reason…. To get away from stupid, and have basic freedoms without stupid cost of living.
Arizona put Bidden in office! Need I say more !
 

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Arizona put Bidden in office! Need I say more !
Blame Ca all you want. Please do.
But please explain why the stupid continue to follow the politicians who fuck them year after year.
The population of AZ did not grow enough from Ca alone to shift that vote. Nope NOpe NOpe..

After you answer my questions, then I will get to yours.
Remember, I am from Texas, only went to Ca because I was in the Military… When I got out, I married a Ca woman and stayed as long as I could.
 

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Blame Ca all you want. Please do.
But please explain why the stupid continue to follow the politicians who fuck them year after year.
After you answer my questions, then I will get to yours.
As I said "the fight is here" I'm not saying it's not fucked up I never have thought other wise but I remember how it was before the communist education of our youth and if you don't think that the nation doesnt follows California your nuts look at how our youth is taught around the country and it all started here in California ! So the fight is here in California!
 

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I got over the iron curtin early this year to free America. Best decision I could have made.

Kalifornia is lost like an Eastern block European country. Too liberal, corrupt, and beyond repair
 
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There will be no more single family home builds allowed.

My friend works for KB Homes, and I just had dinner with him.

He also said there is no more single family zoning allowed, so people can build whatever they want on their lots.

KB has some tracts in SoCal that have good size lots available. He said the Chinese investors are buying them as they come online, with the intention of putting apartments in, after the houses are built.

Fucking insane.

Oh yea... the writing has been on the wall for that for like 6 years.

That could be a boon for some people that have held onto older lots
 

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There will be no more single family home builds allowed.

My friend works for KB Homes, and I just had dinner with him.

He also said there is no more single family zoning allowed, so people can build whatever they want on their lots.

KB has some tracts in SoCal that have good size lots available. He said the Chinese investors are buying them as they come online, with the intention of putting apartments in, after the houses are built.

Fucking insane.
the chinese investments are for foriegn baby birth centers or motels.
 

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"The fight is here"...No, not just in Cali. If anyone moves from there for the political fuktardery, so be it. The thing is, vote your conscience, and be willing to fight wherever you land. A state, any state, is part of the same union.

Be of the mindset to fight for the Republic, no matter which state in which you choose to dwell 🇺🇲
 

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Last time I was in Reno, it seemed like I was still in L.A. Only it was colder. There were tweakers floating around, drunks in the streets and shady mutherfuckers everywhere else. So, while Reno is nice and close to Lake Tahoe and the ski resorts, and offers some of the Vegas casinos and nightlife, I dont think I'd relocate there. I'd look at someplace further east. But you said you have to stay out west, so...... 🤷‍♂️
 

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My observation as an outsider looking in.. when most people from California move to another state, the shit they bitch about California and the reason they left, they then push/vote for the BS the left California for.

I have built houses for many years and have seen it first hand. Hell a retired LEO from riverside moved into one of our houses in a subdivision, joined the city council and the chamber of commerce because they as "homeowners" had to maintain the beauty strip between the street and sidewalk(yes it is considered "city property! Its fukn round river rock and a street tree) which now everyone in that subdivision has to pay an extra city tax to maintain a 3'x60' beauty strip that is actually round river rock! Takes all of 10min a month at most to pull the weeds or spray. The same people are now trying to bring in a "HOA" into the community because their neighbor has a 2016(I think) 5th wheel parked in the driveway and not behind a fence, because people leave there trash cans in front of the garage instead of behind a fence. All what equals more $ paid out to some bullshit. A bunch of "Oregon Natives" that live in the subdivision have signs in their yard that say "DON'T California MY Oregon"! LOL

Funny thing is all these people from other states that move here and do this shit(especially cali peeps) will tell you they "retired" or "moved here" because of "less taxes" and "less political BS".. and then bitch and make more taxes!


Makes NO sense!!


I have no problem with people moving and getting out of a situation if they are not happy or can benefit from said move. But dont move somewhere else and then push the "policies" that are the same reason you moved!!🤷🏻‍♂

I could go on and on but this is JMO, EMBRACE it, DONT TRY AND CHANGE IT! If you're not happy, MOVE BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!
 

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Our friend moved from Oakdale, Ca to Reno .... she is putting her house for sale and moving back to Oakdale. She's sick of it, its turned into the Ca, Bay Area !!! She says its fucked up... traffic, housing and just plain rude people. She will make $400K + on her house, so she did fine there... just can't take the BS !!!
 

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My observation as an outsider looking in.. when most people from California move to another state, the shit the bitch about California and the reason they left, they then push/vote for the BS the left California for.

I have built houses for many years and have seen it first hand. Hell a retired LEO from riverside moved into one of our houses in a subdivision, joined the city council and the chamber of commerce because they as "homeowners" had to maintain the beauty strip between the streen and sidewalk which now everyone in that subdivision has to pay an extra city tax to maintain a 3'x60' beauty strip that is actually round river rock! Takes all of 10min a month at most to pull the weeds or spray. The same people are now trying to bring in a "HOA" into the community because their neighbor has a 2016(I think) 5th wheel parked in the driveway and not behind a fence, because people leave there trash cans in front of the garage instead of behind a fence. All what equals more $ paid out to some bullshit. A bunch of "Oregon Natives" that live in the subdivision have signs in their yard that say "DON'T California MY Oregon"! LOL

Funny thing is all these people from other states that move here and do this shit(especially cali peeps) will tell you they "retired" or "moved here" because of "less taxes" and "less political BS".. and then bitch and make more taxes!


Makes NO sense!!


I have no problem with people moving and getting out of a situation if they are not happy or can benefit from said move. But dont move somewhere else and then push the "policies" that are the same reason you moved!!🤷🏻‍♂

I could go on and on but this is JMO, EMBRACE it, DONT TRY AND CHANGE IT! If you're not happy, MOVE BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!

Yep. These are all people that liked CA 20 years ago and are trying to make where they land like it was when they could tolerate living in CA. It is pretty funny.
 

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Blame Ca all you want. Please do.
But please explain why the stupid continue to follow the politicians who fuck them year after year.
The population of AZ did not grow enough from Ca alone to shift that vote. Nope NOpe NOpe..

After you answer my questions, then I will get to yours.
Remember, I am from Texas, only went to Ca because I was in the Military… When I got out, I married a Ca woman and stayed as long as I could.
The stupid is spreading, and fast. I am born and raised from Houston, moved to Vegas 16 years ago with my company for work. I just sold my house, made a really good profit, bought a 100k 5th wheel and full timing in it and couldn't be happier about our choice. No strings, ready to move whenever, just waiting for the right place to go. Sorry to tell ya but Nevada is not the place, it is becoming the runner up behind cali, Sissylak is straight up Newscums ass. Think more red states if you can, Montana, Florida, and Texas. My wife is from Orange county, a teacher, and i have turned her into a straight up republican. I am proud to have someone that once was liberal now thinks logically and sees what the fuck is really going on. I want Texas or Florida, she wants Montana, and both want as far away from all the bullshit as possible. We are waiting, i feel there will be a big adjustment in housing, and the economy.
 

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I took this picture in 2015 (looking at the time stamp), while sitting in traffic in the Portland area. I thought it was funny as hell!
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The stupid is spreading, and fast. I am born and raised from Houston, moved to Vegas 16 years ago with my company for work. I just sold my house, made a really good profit, bought a 100k 5th wheel and full timing in it and couldn't be happier about our choice. No strings, ready to move whenever, just waiting for the right place to go. Sorry to tell ya but Nevada is not the place, it is becoming the runner up behind cali, Sissylak is straight up Newscums ass. Think more red states if you can, Montana, Florida, and Texas. My wife is from Orange county, a teacher, and i have turned her into a straight up republican. I am proud to have someone that once was liberal now thinks logically and sees what the fuck is really going on. I want Texas or Florida, she wants Montana, and both want as far away from all the bullshit as possible. We are waiting, i feel there will be a big adjustment in housing, and the economy.
I hear all of you.
I respect everyones opinion, even those who disagree with me.

But my profession, what pays my bills is my expertise of being on a Nuke Sub, and 25 years of experience in dealing with Electric Utilitys.

Thats what gets me paid.

Due to the fact that CA and the West Coast has a very fucked up grid. I can help prevent those outages.

So its best for me to be close to the problems and minimize my exposure to stupid.

So for now, I am thinking Reno makes sense. I have plenty of choices. But I like Tahoe, I love out doors, Reno puts me as close to the dumbest utility in Ca, that happens to need my services.

Business 101, be close to your customers, but I cant live there any longer.

So I am getting as close as I can, making $$$ , minimizing expenses, while doing my best to maintain quality of life.

Yes, for those of you trying to read between the lines. Yes I am vague, and its intentional, and best for me. I do me best to offer what I can, when I can.
 

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My observation as an outsider looking in.. when most people from California move to another state, the shit they bitch about California and the reason they left, they then push/vote for the BS the left California for.

I have built houses for many years and have seen it first hand. Hell a retired LEO from riverside moved into one of our houses in a subdivision, joined the city council and the chamber of commerce because they as "homeowners" had to maintain the beauty strip between the street and sidewalk(yes it is considered "city property! Its fukn round river rock and a street tree) which now everyone in that subdivision has to pay an extra city tax to maintain a 3'x60' beauty strip that is actually round river rock! Takes all of 10min a month at most to pull the weeds or spray. The same people are now trying to bring in a "HOA" into the community because their neighbor has a 2016(I think) 5th wheel parked in the driveway and not behind a fence, because people leave there trash cans in front of the garage instead of behind a fence. All what equals more $ paid out to some bullshit. A bunch of "Oregon Natives" that live in the subdivision have signs in their yard that say "DON'T California MY Oregon"! LOL

Funny thing is all these people from other states that move here and do this shit(especially cali peeps) will tell you they "retired" or "moved here" because of "less taxes" and "less political BS".. and then bitch and make more taxes!


Makes NO sense!!


I have no problem with people moving and getting out of a situation if they are not happy or can benefit from said move. But dont move somewhere else and then push the "policies" that are the same reason you moved!!🤷🏻‍♂

I could go on and on but this is JMO, EMBRACE it, DONT TRY AND CHANGE IT! If you're not happy, MOVE BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM!!
Agree 1000000%. Bad news is that moving doesn't change a person, the real change needs to come from within. We see this on a larger scale when immigrants move to this country and immediately establish neighborhoods with the exact same conditions that they just left...
 

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Good luck with your move! I hope you find happiness and a low tax bill!

Born and raised in San Diego north county….
Yep I’m a Ca native! And when I look around…. I don’t see the Ca that I grew up in!

As a young guy I went to work for my uncle and I worked on a multi story hotel in Temecula this was say 1990-92. Traffic sucked getting on /off the freeway….30 + years later they haven’t figured out how to get people on /off the 15 !!! the traffic is grid lock / bumper to bumper driving thru T Mech! And it’s only getting worse….

California is F’d and it’s sinking way to fast!!
 

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Really,,
So, what part of this did not catch your attention, when you read this thread.

I am from Texas, got to Ca, due to the Military.
So you make a judgement call, based on the fact that I currently live in Ca, and want to get out due to stupid.
You assume I will take a liberal agenda… do some research on my post

I literally started this thread as calling my self ass a stupid mutherfucker…

But I just called this shit out.

Do not judge anyone based on one or two items from a label created by a politcal party.
Judge someone for what they stand for and what they have sacrificed to get to where they are.


As much as I appreciate the vast majority of RDP, some of yall are way to simple minded. This is coming from the guy who stated he is a dumb mutherfucker.

Wake the fuck up.
Accept people for who they are, and where they are headed in life.

When they agree with you, why in the fuck would you attack them.

Really, we need allys, not enemys.

But I am now on Bourbon 5, and I will blink and 48 hours will dissappear, and poof , I return back to SoCal around Midnight friday
 
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I hear all of you.
I respect everyones opinion, even those who disagree with me.

But my profession, what pays my bills is my expertise of being on a Nuke Sub, and 25 years of experience in dealing with Electric Utilitys.

Thats what gets me paid.

Due to the fact that CA and the West Coast has a very fucked up grid. I can help prevent those outages.

So its best for me to be close to the problems and minimize my exposure to stupid.

So for now, I am thinking Reno makes sense. I have plenty of choices. But I like Tahoe, I love out doors, Reno puts me as close to the dumbest utility in Ca, that happens to need my services.

Business 101, be close to your customers, but I cant live there any longer.

So I am getting as close as I can, making $$$ , minimizing expenses, while doing my best to maintain quality of life.

Yes, for those of you trying to read between the lines. Yes I am vague, and its intentional, and best for me. I do me best to offer what I can, when I can.
Hear ya, I am in the same boat. My profession pays the best in Vegas, have built a great career here. Looking more at quality of life at this point. Best of luck to ya, i honestly can't see why anyone at this point would live in California. I lived in Oceanside for a few years, never again. But the weather was great! 🤣
 

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I have no dog in this particular fight, but it is truly a motherfucking disaster that such a beautiful State (most beautiful IMO) could have been turned into what it has become. I just don't understand it? Did Reagan fuck it all up with the amnesty deal?
 

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I spent a fair amount of time in WA, OR, CA (mostly Tahoe) and AZ is my current home base and where I vote. Just got back from a week in Sisters and Jacksonville. I find most of the growing cities have turned liberal while small towns still have the values that I share. Reno is grown too big and turned into a shit show in the last 5 years. Same as Boise and Cor d’Alene, Bend, Truckee, Sedona, etc. etc. @Xring01 i haven’t found the ideal city yet....
 
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