liv4riv
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Mead is all dried up no water please stay down stream
Btw after taxes $25 a foot on the 600s. Or $1200 a foot in wire (parallel runs). That’s no conduit, digging, vaults, disconnects, etc
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I measured it. 1800 ft is the shortest run. Not including any labor or conduit.
Copper wire only 3.7 million
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You @Taboma and I don't even know what ya talkin about there sparky. [emoji848] I haven't run 12KV UG since the early 90's, if you're even talking about med-voltage distribution. But it reads like you're talking secondary voltages. Those secondaries from the Xformers would surely be UG. I'd think the primaries stepped down to 12 or 5KV to feed the padmounts would also be UG.
So I think this is regarding those med-voltage primaries feeding the development ?
I'm not that familiar with the Riviera, other than pics and seeing it from the water awhile back.
If I do a street view drive South on 95, I see two parallel runs of 3Ph maybe 69KV, then they branch off towards the lake, one seems to head south to feed those homes on the lake side of 95, no clue where the other one goes. I'd assume to the Riviera, or maybe the Safety Center, maybe both ???
You @Taboma and I don't even know what ya talkin about there sparky. [emoji848] I haven't run 12KV UG since the early 90's, if you're even talking about med-voltage distribution. But it reads like you're talking secondary voltages. Those secondaries from the Xformers would surely be UG. I'd think the primaries stepped down to 12 or 5KV to feed the padmounts would also be UG.
So I think this is regarding those med-voltage primaries feeding the development ?
I'm not that familiar with the Riviera, other than pics and seeing it from the water awhile back.
If I do a street view drive South on 95, I see two parallel runs of 3Ph maybe 69KV, then they branch off towards the lake, one seems to head south to feed those homes on the lake side of 95, no clue where the other one goes. I'd assume to the Riviera, or maybe the Safety Center, maybe both ???
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What is this area? It looks like it has been established for a long time and it is never shown in any of the advertisements. In fact, it is always covered by the ledgend in the site maps.
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What is this area? It looks like it has been established for a long time and it is never shown in any of the advertisements. In fact, it is always covered by the ledgend in the site maps.
I think it’s the old water safety center, not sure what they use it for now or, it may be a facility for state parks to transfer trash off the water to the dump.That where the dreams of rack storage go to die.
Maybe a launch area for city equipment? Maybe storage for the grading equipment? I don't remember if there was actually a road down to that before.
Mead lol
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The wife isn’t a Mead fan. [emoji849]
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My question is what current/amperage/wattage can you run for 200 homes plus a marina?
My limited knowledge says you cannot go over 600v underground.
If you and @rrrr say differently that’s fine too. But you two might know a thing or two more than myself. [emoji6]
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That where the dreams of rack storage go to die.
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What is this area? It looks like it has been established for a long time and it is never shown in any of the advertisements. In fact, it is always covered by the ledgend in the site maps.
Of course you can exceed 600V underground. We spent years retrofitting all the electrical substations on the various military bases in San Diego with all new 12KV 3 phase primary run UG. In fact their systems are all done in a loop, so it can be fed in either direction in case of a fault.
Most all subdivsions in So Cal built in the last 20 years are all supplied off 12 or 5KV primary run UG between distributed padmounted transformers.
I know in places utilities have much higher voltages run UG, but 12KV and 5KV I believe are what you'll find in most housing developments.
My only real experience with this utility type medium voltage was on Government installations. For large housing and golf course developments, we ran the conduits and set the manholes and Xformer pads, SCE installed the cable and set the transformers.
I'm sure we've got a few utility guys on here that can add to or correct me.
I was going to add, my little rural area where we even own the roads was developed in the mid-70's, all our SDG&E primary is 5KV and not only UG, but direct burial
You best get a locator or that shovels is going to vaporize [emoji879]
Is there an insulation rating at that point? My world is 600v.
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A lot of progress at the Riviera. Entry building to the marina, marina bathrooms, floating breakwater and some homes ready for drywall. View attachment 1068736 View attachment 1068737 View attachment 1068738 View attachment 1068739 View attachment 1068740
Owners of my company are having a tough time finding someone to build their houses.
It’s kinda pathetic how slow this thing is moving. How many years to be 50% built out? I’ll say 20My next door neighbor can't find anyone either and the neighbor next to that is building it himself. Tough time to build anything in Havasu.
Yeah, he told me one of the guys owns a framing company or something. He inquired with a few builders in town and they are quoting 5 figures, just to prepare the quote for the build. They already have plans and everything approved by city.My next door neighbor can't find anyone either and the neighbor next to that is building it himself. Tough time to build anything in Havasu.
Pay them for the privilege to submit bid? That like bank charging you to make a depositYeah, he told me one of the guys owns a framing company or something. He inquired with a few builders in town and they are quoting 5 figures, just to prepare the quote for the build. They already have plans and everything approved by city.
It’s kinda pathetic how slow this thing is moving. How many years to be 50% built out? I’ll say 20
Pay them for the privilege to submit bid? That like bank charging you to make a deposit
There is a lot more to it. The stipulations and fines the development has put on the contractors are ridiculous so a lot have refused/boycotted working in the development.They figure if you have the coin tied up in a lot down there, you have the money to pay them whatever they ask.
I talked to a developer last summer that was done with the whole thing. There is 1000 other ways to make more money, much faster, and bailed.
I know of a big time developer who build million dollar houses in havasu who backed out. Was never going to recover his moneyThere is a lot more to it. The stipulations and fines the development has put on the contractors are ridiculous so a lot have refused/boycotted working in the development.
There is a lot more to it. The stipulations and fines the development has put on the contractors are ridiculous so a lot have refused/boycotted working in the development.
You’re right. I completely made it up and that is why every single contractor in town is just waiting for the lucky opportunity to work in there.Fake news. There is a refundable 10K security deposit against damage to the development paid by the homeowner and a 1,500.00 builders qualification fee for the general contractor to pay. There are no other fees or fines what so ever. As of now contractors can work 24/7 at the development.
Fake news. There is a refundable 10K security deposit against damage to the development paid by the homeowner and a 1,500.00 builders qualification fee for the general contractor to pay. There are no other fees or fines what so ever. As of now contractors can work 24/7 at the development.
Why would any reputable builder want to pay a 1,500 “qualification fee” to build in there? Plenty of work elsewhere.Fake news. There is a refundable 10K security deposit against damage to the development paid by the homeowner and a 1,500.00 builders qualification fee for the general contractor to pay. There are no other fees or fines what so ever. As of now contractors can work 24/7 at the development.
You’re right. I completely made it up and that is why every single contractor in town is just waiting for the lucky opportunity to work in there.
AND still no Contractor wants anything to do with it.
Why would any reputable builder want to pay a 1,500 “qualification fee” to build in there? Plenty of work elsewhere.
Glad to see progress on the land though.
That’s what I would do as a builder. Unfortunately it makes it a turn off for most to want to be a builder. What are the stipulations of the 10k security deposit ? What’s considered damage?I agree and its a bullshit add-on fee. The homeowner is really paying for it, not the general contractor.
That’s what I would do as a builder. Unfortunately it makes it a turn off for most to want to be a builder. What are the stipulations of the 10k security deposit ? What’s considered damage?
Damage to curbs, gutters, street and other utility infrastructure they have in place.That’s what I would do as a builder. Unfortunately it makes it a turn off for most to want to be a builder. What are the stipulations of the 10k security deposit ? What’s considered damage?
I know…. That’s what I would do. Not the point.They are just going to pass the price on to the customer anyway...
Standard. Nothing unique or petty.Damage to curbs, gutters, street and other utility infrastructure they have in place.
Yep, speed car delivery will happen then too
Only if the rack storage is done by the end of March. ;-)How's things progressing down there? Launch ramp gonna be open by April?
The Refuge and Foothills have been around for years and still have vacant lots.its been what 3 years?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
true, same with sailing hawks tooThe Refuge and Foothills have been around for years and still have vacant lots.