Cop on a MC with an AR...

[Waterjunky]

Rolling to work on I5 this morning and was just south of Sacramento city limits in stop and go. In my mirror I see a cop on a motorcycle splitting lanes so I move over before he gets to me. As he passes I see an AR in a dedicated vertical AR mount on the right rear corner of the bike.

Anyone seen this before? It was a first for me and was too fast to get a picture.

 

[Wicky]

Rolling to work on I5 this morning and was just south of Sacramento city limits in stop and go. In my mirror I see a cop on a motorcycle splitting lanes so I move over before he gets to me. As he passes I see an AR in a dedicated vertical AR mount on the right rear corner of the bike.

Anyone seen this before? It was a first for me and was too fast to get a picture.

SHOT show many years ago....what took them so long?

 

[Roaddawg]

Most of the PD's and the SO have them down here in Orange County

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[monkeyswrench]

On the CHP shooting thread from last week, an inmate posted a pick. Apparently CHP isn't allowed to do it, but local LE can where city allows. Good for them...they should not be out gunned.

 

[JDub24]

Local Sheriffs Dept here has them. Been at least 4-5 years now.

 

[Big Chorizo]

Yeah, most of them ditched the shotgun years ago. I thought most converted after the Famous North Hollywood shoot out in the late 90’s.

 

[Tank]

Lots of agencies have had them for a while now. Moved away from mounted shotguns. Manytimes they're inside a zippered bag. Motors are many times the first to get to high priority calls because they can split lanes and what not so the justification is they needed a bit more than a hand-gun. Simi Valley PD had Galil compact rifles in their saddle bags for YEARS.

 

[Waterjunky]

I am totally supportive of this, just haven't seen it here in Sac. Given the political climate the need for this is greater than ever. At the same time, the PR from this is worse than ever.

 

[DaveC]

Good.

I always wondered if they could get an M-4 in their saddle bags. Or maybe a collapsible stock on it??

 

[BONER]

Every day occurrence out here in AZ.

Been that way for awhile now.

 

[pronstar]

A folding AR pistol makes way more sense for compactness...

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[Moneypit]

I remember when LAPD had to carry 38 special ammo. They could have 357 in the pistol, but the extra had to be 38 so they could swap with others if required...Glad to see them getting equal firepower...

Ray

 

[EBT531]

AZ departments have that or most have the saddle bag that houses the AR.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Governor denied it for chp as they felt it looked too intimidating. The CHP provides all of the security for the governor, maybe that decision will come back and bite him in the ass some day.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Governor denied it for chp as they felt it looked too intimidating. The CHP provides all of the security for the governor, maybe that decision will come back and bite him in the ass some day.

Good men and women seem to die young...politicians seem to live long and worthless lives

 

[sirbob]

Governor denied it for chp as they felt it looked too intimidating. The CHP provides all of the security for the governor, maybe that decision will come back and bite him in the ass some day.

Is that recently ?
I recall riding in a CHP car and seeing one in the rack next to the radio. I forget the brand - it wasn’t an “AR 15” but it was an “ assault rifle”.

 

[Tank]

Is that recently ?
I recall riding in a CHP car and seeing one in the rack next to the radio. I forget the brand - it wasn’t an “AR 15” but it was an “ assault rifle”.

Cars have them. Bikes don't. Too scary looking on a bike according to the Gov.

 

[HCP3]

Rolling to work on I5 this morning and was just south of Sacramento city limits in stop and go. In my mirror I see a cop on a motorcycle splitting lanes so I move over before he gets to me. As he passes I see an AR in a dedicated vertical AR mount on the right rear corner of the bike.

Anyone seen this before? It was a first for me and was too fast to get a picture.

Everyday on the 91 through Anaheim.

 

[DaveH]

funny how conventional liberal wisdom is this are assault weapons that have no place in society but its the go to weapon of choice now by law enforcement.

 

[jesco]

Theres a motor OC Sheriff in RSM/South OC area that is loaded up like he's going to battle!! AR on the bike, Glocks strapped on his leg and chest, jacket on... He aint fucking around. He's like 6-5 and makes the bike look tiny.

 

[Rondog4405]

All the time.

 

[chvynhra]

Theres a motor OC Sheriff in RSM/South OC area that is loaded up like he's going to battle!! AR on the bike, Glocks strapped on his leg and chest, jacket on... He aint fucking around. He's like 6-5 and makes the bike look tiny.

Probably a taser on his chest.

 

[77charger]

See them all the time I know Anaheim pd has on bikes I complimented one he smiled and said he can strategically take out a scumbag from a safe distance with a smile. Said good for him to have the firepower.

 

[Blackmagic94]

Pretty common but very stupid at the same time. Motor units never response to a real code. Only traffic violations. So basically they have to break Dept procedure to show up to help and thus need that m4

10.3” m4s are pretty short like smg short

 

[Wicky]

View attachment 790869 Pretty common but very stupid at the same time. Motor units never response to a real code. Only traffic violations. So basically they have to break Dept procedure to show up to help and thus need that m4

10.3” m4s are pretty short like smg short

smg or SBR?

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

I saw the same thing in Fresno the other day

 

[Blackmagic94]

smg or SBR?

I don’t know what you asking

Yes a 10.3” M4 is a SBR and yes that size sbr is about as short as a SMG aka mp5

 

[Danger Dave]

This thread is full of toxic masculinity.

 

[KNOTONDUTY]

this was my bike when i was still on traffic. They issued us Smith & Wesson.


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[KNOTONDUTY]

View attachment 790869 Pretty common but very stupid at the same time. Motor units never response to a real code. Only traffic violations. So basically they have to break Dept procedure to show up to help and thus need that m4

10.3” m4s are pretty short like smg short

We responded to all priority calls, not just traffic. We can get through traffic a lot after than a crown Vic can.


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[USClb41]

View attachment 790869 Pretty common but very stupid at the same time. Motor units never response to a real code. Only traffic violations. So basically they have to break Dept procedure to show up to help and thus need that m4

10.3” m4s are pretty short like smg short

Nothing could be further from the truth..

 

[LowRiver2]

Of the 350 LAPD motors, about half carry 870’s with collapsing stocks or their own AR’s. Great tool to have

 

[LowRiver2]

View attachment 790869 Pretty common but very stupid at the same time. Motor units never response to a real code. Only traffic violations. So basically they have to break Dept procedure to show up to help and thus need that m4

10.3” m4s are pretty short like smg short

I guess you’ve never been in LA
We have back up/Officer needs help calls about one an hour over our 465 square mile jurisdiction.
Plenty of our motors have been “in the mix” with long guns and were greatly appreciated.

 

[Ouderkirk]

Rolling to work on I5 this morning and was just south of Sacramento city limits in stop and go. In my mirror I see a cop on a motorcycle splitting lanes so I move over before he gets to me. As he passes I see an AR in a dedicated vertical AR mount on the right rear corner of the bike.

Anyone seen this before? It was a first for me and was too fast to get a picture.

Probably not an AR-15...likely an M4.

 

[Blackmagic94]

I guess you’ve never been in LA
We have back up/Officer needs help calls about one an hour over our 465 square mile jurisdiction.
Plenty of our motors have been “in the mix” with long guns and were greatly appreciated.

Lol SD lols at your puny AO


But sure if he is the only one there. Not gonna let a fellow officer hang out to dry but most Depts it needs to be a high priority for them to risk going into the operation. Car chases on motors are bad juju

 

[LowRiver2]

Lol SD lols at your puny AO


But sure if he is the only one there. Not gonna let a fellow officer hang out to dry but most Depts it needs to be a high priority for them to risk going into the operation. Car chases on motors are bad juju

4.2 million in that area
And SD has?

Crickets

It’s LA
Anyone with a badge can be in a shitstorm quickly
Bad guys don’t care about what vehicle you drive lol

 

[Deja_Vu]

Cops should have the best weapons on the most nimble machine ... great combo IMO.

 

[Blackmagic94]

4.2 million in that area
And SD has?

Crickets

It’s LA
Anyone with a badge can be in a shitstorm quickly
Bad guys don’t care about what vehicle you drive lol

Sd means sheriff Dept.

 

[LowRiver2]

Okay
And their pop is spread out to a density of of 1/4 of what ours is per square mile
LASD is a contract dept.
They have motors when a contract asks for them and are very narrowly used as far as missions

Look up LAPD Motor stirke forces
We engage ours in a lot of stuff beyond revenue
Your point now?

 

[Backlash]

BM, you prolly dont want to continue to argue with LR2. I'm pretty sure he has an idea of what's going on in the LE community. Just saying.

 

[Cdog]

funny how conventional liberal wisdom is this are assault weapons that have no place in society but its the go to weapon of choice now by law enforcement.

Yeah! You see all these clowns like dirty uncle joe saying all u need is a shotgun.

Sure dick! Meanwhile his safety detail is rolling with Sbr ebr’s & sub guns.

You’ve got to wonder whos actually getting fooled by these pricks?

 

[Cdog]

Probably not an AR-15...likely an M4.

Majority are not select fire. Only swat & special teams have FA.

 

[t&y]

BM, you prolly dont want to continue to argue with LR2. I'm pretty sure he has an idea of what's going on in the LE community. Just saying.

Pretty sure BM runs in the same crowd

Okay
And their pop is spread out to a density of of 1/4 of what ours is per square mile
LASD is a contract dept.
They have motors when a contract asks for them and are very narrowly used as far as missions

Look up LAPD Motor stirke forces
We engage ours in a lot of stuff beyond revenue
Your point now?

No idea which SD he is referring too, but their rules of engagement between all departments vary greatly. LAPD is surrounded closely by LASD, but San Bernadino and Riverside are also two very large Sheriff Departments with the L.A. Basin for the purpose of this discussion, and all three have different rules of engagement... Hell, San Berdo let's their Aero Observers fire rounds at cars during pursuits

I'm all for arming every cop to teeth... But you lose me in regards to sending Motor Cops into hot calls. I get the ability to cut through traffic and don't deny they can "get" there pretty quick. But tactically speaking I'll take a Explorer or Crown vic 24/7 over Bike for numerous reasons. If all you want is a long gun set at long gun distance then that makes sense. Other then that, I'm not sure having a motor cop roll up to a man with a gun call is all that smart, unless he is only the back up guy behind the big blocks of metal on 4 wheels I like to refer to as concealment.

But hey, I just a tactical meter maid, so what do I know.

 

[LowRiver2]

Pretty sure BM runs in the same crowd



No idea which SD he is referring too, but their rules of engagement between all departments vary greatly. LAPD is surrounded closely by LASD, but San Bernadino and Riverside are also two very large Sheriff Departments with the L.A. Basin for the purpose of this discussion, and all three have different rules of engagement... Hell, San Berdo let's their Aero Observers fire rounds at cars during pursuits

I'm all for arming every cop to teeth... But you lose me in regards to sending Motor Cops into hot calls. I get the ability to cut through traffic and don't deny they can "get" there pretty quick. But tactically speaking I'll take a Explorer or Crown vic 24/7 over Bike for numerous reasons. If all you want is a long gun set at long gun distance then that makes sense. Other then that, I'm not sure having a motor cop roll up to a man with a gun call is all that smart, unless he is only the back up guy behind the big blocks of metal on 4 wheels I like to refer to as concealment.

But hey, I just a tactical meter maid, so what do I know.

With 150-200 motors deployed Mon-Friday, the odds a motor either beats a primary unit or rides into a gunfight/robbery in progress rise quickly.

No don’t send a motor as a designated primary but ours have no problem jumping in the mix when needed

Two of them are fellow Bomb Techs now, they saw the light lol

A lot better driving into the city from Santa Clarita in December in a GMC 2500 than a BMW two wheeler with heated handgrips, just sayin’ ha ha!

 

[USClb41]

Pretty sure BM runs in the same crowd



No idea which SD he is referring too, but their rules of engagement between all departments vary greatly. LAPD is surrounded closely by LASD, but San Bernadino and Riverside are also two very large Sheriff Departments with the L.A. Basin for the purpose of this discussion, and all three have different rules of engagement... Hell, San Berdo let's their Aero Observers fire rounds at cars during pursuits

I'm all for arming every cop to teeth... But you lose me in regards to sending Motor Cops into hot calls. I get the ability to cut through traffic and don't deny they can "get" there pretty quick. But tactically speaking I'll take a Explorer or Crown vic 24/7 over Bike for numerous reasons. If all you want is a long gun set at long gun distance then that makes sense. Other then that, I'm not sure having a motor cop roll up to a man with a gun call is all that smart, unless he is only the back up guy behind the big blocks of metal on 4 wheels I like to refer to as concealment.

But hey, I just a tactical meter maid, so what do I know.

Agreed, I would much rather take cover behind a unit than a motor, but if I roll into a hot call of an active shooter on a school campus I sure as hell would rather take a shot with an AR vs a shotgun. Motors are going to respond to these calls just like any other copper will

 

[t&y]

Agreed, I would much rather take cover behind a unit than a motor, but if I roll into a hot call of an active shooter on a school campus I sure as hell would rather take a shot with an AR vs a shotgun. Motors are going to respond to these calls just like any other copper will

Agreed. No issue on my end having every motor equipped with a rifle.