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TIM ALLEN - ON TRUMP ...
Whatever your feelings for Trump, these are some interesting points that Tim Allen makes. Put your hatred aside and think about these observations.
Tim Allen is credited with writing this.

From :Tim Allen
Here are some interesting points to think about prior to 2020, especially to my friends on the fence, like moderate Democrats, Libertarians and Independents and the never Trump Republicans and those thinking of "walking away" from the Democratic party.

Women are upset at Trump’s naughty words -- they also bought 80 million copies of 50 Shades of Gray.

Not one feminist has defended Sarah Sanders. It seems women’s rights only matter if those women are liberal.

No Border Walls. No voter ID laws. Did you figure it out yet? But wait... there's more.

Chelsea Clinton got out of college and got a job at NBC that paid $900,000 per year. Her mom flies around the country speaking out about white privilege.

And just like that, they went from being against foreign interference in our elections to allowing non-citizens to vote in our elections.

President Trump’s wall costs less than the Obamacare website. Let that sink in, America.

We are one election away from open borders, socialism, gun confiscation, and full-term abortion nationally. We are fighting evil.

They sent more troops and armament to arrest Roger Stone than they sent to defend Benghazi.

60 years ago, Venezuela was 4th on the world economic freedom index. Today, they are 179th and their citizens are dying of starvation. In only 10 years, Venezuela was destroyed by democratic socialism.

Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign. Russia donated $145,600,000 to the Clinton Foundation. But Trump was the one investigated!

Nancy Pelosi invited illegal aliens to the State of the Union. President Trump Invited victims of illegal aliens to the State of the Union. Let that sink in.

A socialist is basically a communist who doesn’t have the power to take everything from their citizens at gunpoint ... Yet!

How do you walk 3000 miles across Mexico without food or support and show up at our border 100 pounds overweight and with a cellphone?

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez wants to ban cars, ban planes, give out universal income and thinks socialism works. She calls Donald Trump crazy.

Bill Clinton paid $850,000 to Paula Jones To get her to go away. I don’t remember the FBI raiding his lawyer’s office.

I wake up every day and I am grateful that Hillary Clinton is not the president of the United States of America.

The same media that told me Hillary Clinton had a 95% chance of winning now tells me Trump’s approval ratings are low.

“The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”— Margaret Thatcher

Maxine Waters opposes voter ID laws; She thinks that they are racist. You need to have a photo ID to attend her town hall meetings.

President Trump said — "They’re not after me. They’re after you. I’m just in their way."
Read that again.
 

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Whether Allen said them or paraphrased or someone else said them, there is so much there that needs to be ingrained in voters over the next years.

Those folks are facts that cannot be denied....
 

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Isn't it funny when someone speaks the truth and we get CRICKETS from the liberals !:D
"The Truth"... I'm not sure who changed the Senate rule about being truthful while speaking on the Senate floor... I know Ol' Harry Raid used the new rule to out and out LIE on many occasions, most notable was when he openly said Mitt Romney had not paid his taxes in over ten years.. That, of course was a lie, but low information voters only hear the sensational first statement on any subject.. A corrected record goes on page 11 in the fine print.. So, the GOP controlled Senate needs to change the rule back to where it is a crime to lie while addressing the Senate or the House...Make the rule say there is a presumption of being under an Oath to tell the truth in both branches... Put some teeth in the rule so as to allow for suspension of voting privileges for 30 days for a first offense and possible expulsion for subsequent offenses.. We will never have fair and honest elections as long as we don't have fair and honest discussions by our elected officials...Again, I do not know who changed the rule allowing straight out premeditated lies for the purpose of misleading voters.
Yeah, I know it is a crack pipe dream, but it is easier than educating 1/2 the citizens of our Country about what is really going on with dishonest agendas...
Ray
 

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"The Truth"... I'm not sure who changed the Senate rule about being truthful while speaking on the Senate floor... I know Ol' Harry Raid used the new rule to out and out LIE on many occasions, most notable was when he openly said Mitt Romney had not paid his taxes in over ten years.. That, of course was a lie, but low information voters only hear the sensational first statement on any subject.. A corrected record goes on page 11 in the fine print.. So, the GOP controlled Senate needs to change the rule back to where it is a crime to lie while addressing the Senate or the House...Make the rule say there is a presumption of being under an Oath to tell the truth in both branches... Put some teeth in the rule so as to allow for suspension of voting privileges for 30 days for a first offense and possible expulsion for subsequent offenses.. We will never have fair and honest elections as long as we don't have fair and honest discussions by our elected officials...Again, I do not know who changed the rule allowing straight out premeditated lies for the purpose of misleading voters.
Yeah, I know it is a crack pipe dream, but it is easier than educating 1/2 the citizens of our Country about what is really going on with dishonest agendas...
Ray


Would that rule apply to the President also? :)
 

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Would that rule apply to the President also? :)
Well yeah if he were speaking to the Senate or House from the floor of either... However, what I was referring to is more along the lines of when the 535 members are discussing the bills that they bring up, discuss and vote on before sending the bill to the other body for consideration. Or Obama's famous "if you like your plan you can keep your plan" when he KNEW that was a lie he told to influence an election. I'm sure it is on both sides of the fence, but it is the Dims that seem to tell the real whoppers... Reference the Cavanaugh confirmation hearing.. And the horrible way the lefties treated him for no truthful reason...look at the asshole Nadler and the stinking lies he is telling about "Impeachment inquiries"... Nothing, absolutely nothing out of his asshole mouth was true..Nothing... All lies. His motive was/is clear, he has a primary contender running against him in NY.. He MUST look as though he is pursuing impeachment to rev up HIS BASE. HE IS NOT pursuing impeachment...He is double talking the whole thing. Congress already voted down moving forward with anything related to impeachment...
We, the people, MUST force these asshats to tell the truth under some serious penalties for lying..
Ray
 

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Well yeah if he were speaking to the Senate or House from the floor of either... However, what I was referring to is more along the lines of when the 535 members are discussing the bills that they bring up, discuss and vote on before sending the bill to the other body for consideration. Or Obama's famous "if you like your plan you can keep your plan" when he KNEW that was a lie he told to influence an election. I'm sure it is on both sides of the fence, but it is the Dims that seem to tell the real whoppers... Reference the Cavanaugh confirmation hearing.. And the horrible way the lefties treated him for no truthful reason...look at the asshole Nadler and the stinking lies he is telling about "Impeachment inquiries"... Nothing, absolutely nothing out of his asshole mouth was true..Nothing... All lies. His motive was/is clear, he has a primary contender running against him in NY.. He MUST look as though he is pursuing impeachment to rev up HIS BASE. HE IS NOT pursuing impeachment...He is double talking the whole thing. Congress already voted down moving forward with anything related to impeachment...
We, the people, MUST force these asshats to tell the truth under some serious penalties for lying..
Ray


Fair point.

So when the president stated in front of congress that if the ACA was repealed and it would not cut health care to pre-existing conditions, like it clearly and legally would, that would be the equivalent of your Obama example of if you like your plan you can keep your plan?
 

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Just can't argue with an expert on Trump......Having Trump embedded in his head gives him such an advantage.:rolleyes:
 

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Fair point.

So when the president stated in front of congress that if the ACA was repealed and it would not cut health care to pre-existing conditions, like it clearly and legally would, that would be the equivalent of your Obama example of if you like your plan you can keep your plan?

Don't hate the player, hate the game, right?

As has been pointed out in this forum lately, what they say isn't close what they will, or rather can, deliver. 90% of it is noise to keep both sides riled up. True policy is the least of the politician's worries.
 

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I know you are joking but many read this as gospel.

Not gospel just pretty close to what could happen here if your buddies get their way and keep giving everything away for free that's the point of the post I think.
 

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Fair point.
So when the president stated in front of congress that if the ACA was repealed and it would not cut health care to pre-existing conditions, like it clearly and legally would, that would be the equivalent of your Obama example of if you like your plan you can keep your plan?
I don't think there was anything "clearly" or "Legally" concerning pre existing conditions falling by the wayside... In fact, I seem to remember exactly the opposite, that pre existing conditions would NOT be excluded once the final draft was presented...
I AM SICK AND TIRED of the libturd media and libturds in general picking away at EVERY SINGLE WORD the POTUS says, out of context... AND, there is zero comparison between the premeditated lies in Congress aimed at hiding their true agendas, and attacking the POTUS every single minute of every single day with out of context bullshit.. Nadler is a prime example of a lying, piece of shit asshole that wouldn't recognize the truth if it were tattooed on the insides of his eyelids...Giving him the power of Chairmanship of the Judicial committee is like assigning "Ronald McDonnell" to be Chairman of the Agricultural Department... Nadler's lies from Friday are being replayed on CNN over and over and there is nothing, nothing at all, that is true about his wish list on impeachment... THERE IS NO IMPEACHMENT ANYTHING, just his lies to keep the low information voters of NY revved up in an effort to win the Primary election and keep the job he is unqualified to hold...

Ray
 

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I don't think there was anything "clearly" or "Legally" concerning pre existing conditions falling by the wayside... In fact, I seem to remember exactly the opposite, that pre existing conditions would NOT be excluded once the final draft was presented...
I AM SICK AND TIRED of the libturd media and libturds in general picking away at EVERY SINGLE WORD the POTUS says, out of context... AND, there is zero comparison between the premeditated lies in Congress aimed at hiding their true agendas, and attacking the POTUS every single minute of every single day with out of context bullshit.. Nadler is a prime example of a lying, piece of shit asshole that wouldn't recognize the truth if it were tattooed on the insides of his eyelids...Giving him the power of Chairmanship of the Judicial committee is like assigning "Ronald McDonnell" to be Chairman of the Agricultural Department... Nadler's lies from Friday are being replayed on CNN over and over and there is nothing, nothing at all, that is true about his wish list on impeachment... THERE IS NO IMPEACHMENT ANYTHING, just his lies to keep the low information voters of NY revved up in an effort to win the Primary election and keep the job he is unqualified to hold...

Ray



https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...existing-conditions-protections/#348180a050e8
 

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Bullshit info having nothing to do with the POTUS...I NEVER trust any info that comes with continuous pop up ads..."People in 20 states did something" concerning the entire ACA law that will shortly be ruled unconstitutional, (Parts are out already, like the mandate)..
BUT, you avoiding mention of the worthless lying asshole Nadler is obvious. He is defenseless, he has zero redeemable value to anyone, (other than a historic look back at what an asshole looks like)... "The sky is falling" alarms about pre existing conditions is bullshit designed to fit an agenda, nothing more, nothing less...
Ray
 

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Bullshit info having nothing to do with the POTUS...I NEVER trust any info that comes with continuous pop up ads..."People in 20 states did something" concerning the entire ACA law that will shortly be ruled unconstitutional, (Parts are out already, like the mandate)..
BUT, you avoiding mention of the worthless lying asshole Nadler is obvious. He is defenseless, he has zero redeemable value to anyone, (other than a historic look back at what an asshole looks like)... "The sky is falling" alarms about pre existing conditions is bullshit designed to fit an agenda, nothing more, nothing less...
Ray


Well there you have the problem Ray.

You don’t believe that if Trump would have got what he wanted and repealed the ACA, which McCain stopped with one vote, that the protections for pre-existing conditions would have ended at that very moment that Trump signed the repeal. You call the undeniable fact that Trump was going to gut protections for pre-existing conditions with that vote “bullshit”. You believe Trump’s lies.

And liberals don’t believe that Nader is full of bullshit. They believe his lies.

So there you have it. Two groups neither of which is capable of being rational or objective. And so those of us in the middle that would just like a little honesty and for the government to get out of the way of us living our lives are the ones that are really fucked.
 

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Trump & Nadler have history going back to building Permits NYC far back as 1980s.Trump always won & Nadler was the fool.
 

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Well there you have the problem Ray.

You don’t believe that if Trump would have got what he wanted and repealed the ACA, which McCain stopped with one vote, that the protections for pre-existing conditions would have ended at that very moment that Trump signed the repeal. You call the undeniable fact that Trump was going to gut protections for pre-existing conditions with that vote “bullshit”. You believe Trump’s lies.

And liberals don’t believe that Nader is full of bullshit. They believe his lies.

So there you have it. Two groups neither of which is capable of being rational or objective. And so those of us in the middle that would just like a little honesty and for the government to get out of the way of us living our lives are the ones that are really fucked.
NO, one is capable, the other is too fucking ignorant to even know they are ignorant...

We will never know what the replacement healthcare would have looked like... The fucking libturds just want to obstruct everything this President tries to do without any thoughts about how the American people will be affected... Until YOU are ready to totally CONDEMN the libturds obstructionism I'm done responding... It is simple, TRUMP GOOD, LIBTURDS BAD....
Bye, Ray
 

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NO, one is capable, the other is too fucking ignorant to even know they are ignorant...

We will never know what the replacement healthcare would have looked like... The fucking libturds just want to obstruct everything this President tries to do without any thoughts about how the American people will be affected... Until YOU are ready to totally CONDEMN the libturds obstructionism I'm done responding... It is simple, TRUMP GOOD, LIBTURDS BAD....
Bye, Ray


No where could have those liberals learned about obstruction?

 

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Bullshit info having nothing to do with the POTUS...I NEVER trust any info that comes with continuous pop up ads..."People in 20 states did something" concerning the entire ACA law that will shortly be ruled unconstitutional, (Parts are out already, like the mandate)..
BUT, you avoiding mention of the worthless lying asshole Nadler is obvious. He is defenseless, he has zero redeemable value to anyone, (other than a historic look back at what an asshole looks like)... "The sky is falling" alarms about pre existing conditions is bullshit designed to fit an agenda, nothing more, nothing less...
Ray

Turdy is nothing more than a whore for the elite that got the rug pulled out from under them in 2016.

No matter what you say, he will come back with a lie. He’s what we call a knee pad specialist. ;)
 

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Turdy is nothing more than a whore for the elite that got the rug pulled out from under them in 2016.

No matter what you say, he will come back with a lie. He’s what we call a knee pad specialist. ;)

I’m not sure what his goal was in 2016?
Would he have been happier with Killary?
I think he would be belly aching and blaming all others even louder than he is now.
Either way he gets to satiate his need for assigning blame. I get it. Being “right” is his job after all.

Makes you wonder just who broke him and how.
 

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Fair point.

So when the president stated in front of congress that if the ACA was repealed and it would not cut health care to pre-existing conditions, like it clearly and legally would, that would be the equivalent of your Obama example of if you like your plan you can keep your plan?

Just curious, and admittedly completely off topic, but has Trump called Melania “Melvin” on camera yet?
 

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I’m not sure what his goal was in 2016?
Would he have been happier with Killary?
I think he would be belly aching and blaming all others even louder than he is now.
Either way he gets to satiate his need for assigning blame. I get it. Being “right” is his job after all.

Makes you wonder just who broke him and how.
He openly stated he would be happy with HRC as her actions were predictable to he and his investor buddies, whose only concern is themselves and their wallets. He's openly bragged on having no children and thus no one to worry about after he's gone. He lives in the now for himself and cares not one fuck about the rest of society.

This isn't my opinion, it's what the guy has posted over and again since he arrived on the scene. If the nation turns into a civil war zone, he will leave to return later and profit from the carnage. His words, not mine.....The guy is nothing more than a predatory buzzard feeding off society.

His presence here is from boredom as he likely has no one around him that gives a fuck to hear his hate and drivel. Big Don owns his brain space so he needs a place to try and fight back the demons that take the edge off his lonely self centered shallow world.:rolleyes:

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