Arizona Gas Taxes could double

[TCHB]

Do you really think Havasu will get new asphalt roads???
https://www.havasunews.com/news/pla...cle_210f59b0-e0ef-11e9-ad21-c32dd388124d.html

 

[havasujeeper]

I'm telling ya, this is how Commiefornia started. I hope Arizona folks start fighting these tax increases, or you will soon be called California East.

 

[westair]

this sounds very familiar …… except its a republican from prescott leading this one

 

[Ladsm]

The roads are 100% better in AZ than CA, this is just another grab into your wallet or purse. Next will be water and electricity because you cant do without the 3.

 

[HB2Havasu]

It's never enough for politicians to spend other peoples money. California has 4X the gas tax as Arizona and the roads are still shit!!! I'm sure they will soon be telling us they need more gas tax money to repair the roads, just like the last 10 tax hikes.

 

[RiverDave]

The roads are 100% better in AZ than CA, this is just another grab into your wallet or purse. Next will be water and electricity because you cant do without the 3.

Exactly..

 

[monkeyswrench]

The guy behind the tax increase idea claims to be republican, and is from my neck of the woods. He'll be receiving a polite, yet honest, email. I should be able to find his public email address relatively easily.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

My Tahoe's weekly gas bill is about $90.00 And that's with carpooling. Shit's out of control. (CA)

 

[Mandelon]

Politicians sit around at meetings trying to come up with more ways to take our money.

 

[2Driver]

I'm telling ya, this is how Commiefornia started. I hope Arizona folks start fighting these tax increases, or you will soon be called California East.

Prescott is California so its no surprise this idea germinated there. The guy came out the government “retired” Navy, then customs service then forest service.

He's ingrained in inefficiency and waste as a way of life. The only way to do anything is, not to become efficient, but to go about the SOS and take more of our hard earned income.

 

[westair]

Noel Campbell R- Prescott [email protected]

 

[monkeyswrench]

Noel Campbell R- Prescott [email protected]

Thank You. That made it exceptionally easy to send and email...now see if I get any response.

 

[Go-Fly]

in 1985 I sat on a citizen advisory board for responsible road tax allocation. I remember it was so far down the tube that the state was using gas taxes for slide shows in the state parks. There were over 20 people making $50k a year (big money back then) to take pictures and put together slide shows. The reason for the connection was, people have to drive on the roads to get to the slide shows. Fast forward 30 some odd years and you have people paid to listen on behalf of wildlife to make sure road construction is not overly offensive. The point is, gas taxes don't go only to roads. It's a cash cow that government can't walk away from and people flock to as a way to make good money without providing any results.

 

[FROGMAN524]

What will they tax when everyone’s driving electric cars? Or the people that ride the bus that use the roads?


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[TCHB]

Exactly..

The 40 up towards Kingman is bad! Shake your

What will they tax when everyone’s driving electric cars? Or the people that ride the bus that use the roads?


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Every look at your Electricity bill in detail! Lots of other fees besides electricity.

 

[westair]

The 40 up towards Kingman is bad! Shake your

You would think they could fill a few of the holes in out of the 750 million budget they have already

 

[monkeyswrench]

in 1985 I sat on a citizen advisory board for responsible road tax allocation. I remember it was so far down the tube that the state was using gas taxes for slide shows in the state parks. There were over 20 people making $50k a year (big money back then) to take pictures and put together slide shows. The reason for the connection was, people have to drive on the roads to get to the slide shows. Fast forward 30 some odd years and you have people paid to listen on behalf of wildlife to make sure road construction is not overly offensive. The point is, gas taxes don't go only to roads. It's a cash cow that government can't walk away from and people flock to as a way to make good money without providing any results.

I guess it's the same as any other government run deal. In Los Angeles, the school district had a lot of busses. Second largest district in the country by population, the biggest geographically. All those diesel busses on all those beat up roads...all run on red dye fuel, and no registration fees. I would think it's the same here.
I have a contractor friend that was subbed out on I40 bridge work last year. A guy came up to him from some state board of something. Asked him if his boss was treating him well, if he was getting X amount per hour, this, that and the other...The guy was a paid HR observer. My friend made sure to tell him the owner of the company was an ass, but the pay was good...That's about when the HR guy from ADOT realized he was talking to the owner.

 

[Bear Down]

My Tahoe's weekly gas bill is about $90.00 And that's with carpooling. Shit's out of control. (CA)

Sold our SUV (v-6) and purchased a new sedan. What I have saved in 3 weeks in fuel pays for half the payment on the new car. I am happy I am paying less into the State fund..

 

[MK1MOD0]

AZ is infected. Just like NV years ago. The Virus will spread until it kills the host. Unfortunately, it is the result of living next to CA

 

[Mike K]

AZ going the CA way? The one to watch out for is the “Red for Ed” teacher union tax scheduled for the 2020 AZ ballot that would raise your AZ state income tax an additional 4 %.

 

[Ziggy]

What I paid yesterday. Filled both my cars

 

[EBT531]

What will they tax when everyone’s driving electric cars? Or the people that ride the bus that use the roads?


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Funny you should ask that! IL just changed their registration fees from $17.50 to $248 for electric cars this year quoting they don't pay fuel tax to support roadways. The original proposal was $1k for registration so I am sure that will be reality in a couple years

 

[Bigbore500r]

What will they tax when everyone’s driving electric cars? Or the people that ride the bus that use the roads?


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They're already handling that - CA tacked on an extra $100 per year in registration fees for any electric vehicle to offset the lost income from that portion of gas taxes they allocate for roads

 

[2Driver]

The government play today is
to let things go to total shit to where everyone is up in arms. Then they say, “ well if you want new roads then we need to find a new way (tax) to pay for them, because we don't have the money.

Citizens buy into it to get the issue resolved and the tax and waste never ends and it grows like a fucking tumor.

 

[monkeyswrench]

AZ going the CA way? The one to watch out for is the “Red for Ed” teacher union tax scheduled for the 2020 AZ ballot that would raise your AZ state income tax an additional 4 %.

I am way too familiar with the Red for Ed BS... Some quiet dinners last year with my teacher wife. It has gotten me out of a lot of her friends get togethers though. My thing is this, you took the job knowing the pay sucked. The only thing that changed is the two guys from out of state starting an uprising. The talking heads for that campaign were from Chicago, and I belive Dallas. Moved here 2-3 yrs ago. A lot of their propaganda funding comes from SEIU and the Ca teachers' union. Luckily the property tax thing is out...for now.

 

[HNL2LHC]

What I paid yesterday. Filled both my cars
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Hey where did you find that? We paid $2.75 yesterday on our way out of Havasu. Funny thing is that while we were filling up the guy walked across the property with the pole and additional numbers. So it turns out that we saved $.05 per gallon. Woohooo!!!

 

[Ziggy]

Hey where did you find that? We paid $2.75 yesterday on our way out of Havasu. Funny thing is that while we were filling up the guy walked across the property with the pole and additional numbers. So it turns out that we saved $.05 per gallon. Woohooo!!!

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Smith's with my discount. Posted price was $2.58

 

[D19]

this sounds very familiar …… except its a republican from prescott leading this one

It’s getting more difficult to see the fiscal differences between parties. Seems they all just want our money and to tell us what to do in some way with very little in return.

 

[monkeyswrench]

It’s getting more difficult to see the fiscal differences between parties. Seems they all just want our money and to tell us what to do in some way with very little in return.

I had really not been paying too much attention to politics until recently. I worked, payed bills and taxes. That was it. Pretty simple, head down, keep moving life. Now I look around, and it's much like you just said. There are titles, but there are very few differences.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

What will they tax when everyone’s driving electric cars? Or the people that ride the bus that use the roads?


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Utilities in California have gotten the PUC to allow them to offer different meters and rates for electric vehicle charging. I can almost guarantee you that they will lobby to get it into title 24 that all electric car charging stations need to be independent from house or business service meters. Then they will petition the PUC to get those meters excluded from their purview (the PUC's) so they can do damn near whatever they want with the rates without having to get their (PUC's) approval.

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[DLC]

I don’t know how much road maintenance will get completed in Havasu....

I do know it ONLY took what 9 months to redo the intersection to get on the island.

At that rate even if they have a bunch of money it might take a while...

 

[thmterry]

Where does all the lotto money go? I thought it was for schools?