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2 and 2. Best of 3 for the win.

Astros have the 2 Aces back on the mound to go against the Nats 2 Aces.

Go Astros!!!!!!!:p
 

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Not that I care about sports, but I honestly think these are a scam. Have teams get evened up on the games as the series progresses so there are more games. How much money would be left on the table for all parties involved if there was a sweep and 3 games didn't get played? Lost advertising revenue, lost concession sales revenue...in the millions if not hundreds of millions.

Might be a little "conspiracy theorist" of me, but it seems like a great business strategy to make sure there are as many games as possible...
 

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Not that I care about sports, but I honestly think these are a scam. Have teams get evened up on the games as the series progresses so there are more games. How much money would be left on the table for all parties involved if there was a sweep and 3 games didn't get played? Lost advertising revenue, lost concession sales revenue...in the millions if not hundreds of millions.

Might be a little "conspiracy theorist" of me, but it seems like a great business strategy to make sure there are as many games as possible...
How do you rig a baseball game? The players get paid the same no matter how many games are played. Yes, more games do mean more $$$ from TV and concessions.
 

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Might be a little "conspiracy theorist" of me, but it seems like a great business strategy to make sure there are as many games as possible...

The nats were on an 8 game winning streak before dropping 2. Pretty easy to see how that was coming to an end. If they had won in 4 that would have been a 10 game streak against 3 of the best teams. Just wasnt going to happen.
 

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How do you rig a baseball game? The players get paid the same no matter how many games are played. Yes, more games do mean more $$$ from TV and concessions.
Game 3 Nats were the worst fielding I’ve ever seen in a pro ball game. Suspicious for sure.
 

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Not that I care about sports, but I honestly think these are a scam. Have teams get evened up on the games as the series progresses so there are more games. How much money would be left on the table for all parties involved if there was a sweep and 3 games didn't get played? Lost advertising revenue, lost concession sales revenue...in the millions if not hundreds of millions.

Might be a little "conspiracy theorist" of me, but it seems like a great business strategy to make sure there are as many games as possible...

Reaching too far
 

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Scherzer can’t pitch tonite? Neck spasms.
WTF??!! It’s the Godamn World Series! You’re making $15mil/yr! Pull up yer panty hose , rub some fkn dirt in it, and get out there and pitch for fuk sake!!!!!!!!! My 75yr old dad gets neck spasms from doing yard work all day! If I owned the Nats I’d be on the phone trading his ass right now...
 

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Scherzer can’t pitch tonite? Neck spasms.
WTF??!! It’s the Godamn World Series! You’re making $15mil/yr! Pull up yer panty hose , rub some fkn dirt in it, and get out there and pitch for fuk sake!!!!!!!!! My 75yr old dad gets neck spasms from doing yard work all day! If I owned the Nats I’d be on the phone trading his ass right now...

I totally agree.. Team should fine him a portion of his kabillion yearly salary if he is unable to play in the most important game the team has been involved in in decades...However, look at the "Hero" possibility if he has to come back to an elimination game... Tied 3 and 3, and here he comes off his death bed, (ala Kurt Gibson) to pitch one for the "team" and maybe end his already over career..
As far as "rigged" play offs and series, I'm pretty sure the advertising contracts are established in such a way that the number of "final" games plays no role in the the revenue to the teams or the leagues.... Sure, TV will benefit better if 7 games are played as far as "hours for the bucks" of broadcast time for the major sponsors... But I think they pay $XXXXX regardless of how many games wind up the Championship series... Any other way would leave it wide open to fraudulent actions...
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That guy is a tough SOB. He would be on the mound if he could throw with control. What's the point of going against Houston throwing in pain?
 
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How do you rig a baseball game? The players get paid the same no matter how many games are played. Yes, more games do mean more $$$ from TV and concessions.


Rigging the game is pretty easy..

The TV money and ticket sales always wins.
 

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My daughter and SiL were at the last 2 games in DC. They were guests in a MGM casino suite and last night when they got there, security was heavy. In comes the SS and all folks were searched and checked out. They are told Trump will be in the suite. So there they are, in the section within the suite right next to the Trumps.

My daughter has video of talking with the Pres across the aisle. It's crazy.....:D
 

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What was up with all the booing Trump. That was over the top
 

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That was a great moment, and funny as hell. The guy took Alverez's home run ball to the chest instead of dropping his beers. I'm pretty sure he lost them in the scrum to come up with the ball, but he got his souvenir along with some TV time. :D
 

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That was a great moment, and funny as hell. The guy took Alverez's home run ball to the chest instead of dropping his beers. I'm pretty sure he lost them in the scrum to come up with the ball, but he got his souvenir along with some TV time. :D

That was great I had to rewind and video it. Can’t believe I missed these 2(or 4) last night but had it on my other while the football was on.
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for an outsider looking in . I don't give a shit who wins.
just wanted to see a good world series with runs going back and fourth. no drama . no come backs. the games are mostly over after a few innings.
had to turn on looney toones for entrainment

sorry one of the lamest World series in a long time .
sorry OT . your Astros will probably win.
 

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for an outsider looking in . I don't give a shit who wins.
just wanted to see a good world series with runs going back and fourth. no drama . no come backs. the games are mostly over after a few innings.
had to turn on looney toones for entrainment

sorry one of the lamest World series in a long time .
sorry OT . your Astros will probably win.
Fine by me. My nerves were shot after the fist 2 games until last night. All I was hoping for was 2 of 3 in DC. We got 3.:D
 

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That was great I had to rewind and video it. Can’t believe I missed these 2(or 4) last night but had it on my other while the football was on.
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So they made it on network TV? A friend of mine said he saw them on a raw satellite feed they were getting at the tv station he was doing some work at. If they did make it on the network I missed them:(
 

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That was great I had to rewind and video it. Can’t believe I missed these 2(or 4) last night but had it on my other while the football was on.
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The pair on the right are the perfect size for my likes. Nice 'n firm!

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That was a crappy call!!!!

Every time Turner's left foot touched down as he ran, it hit grass. He was still inside the base path at the moment he hit Gurriell's glove. The home plate umpire was in position and made the call, which wasn't reviewable.
 

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That was a crappy call!!!!

Technically it was the correct call as the rule states the runner should be in the lane just right of the foul line and can only come back into the field of play on their last step towards the base. But being a judgement call in this case the runners path had no bearing on the 1st Baseman not being able to catch the ball, so it should not have been ruled interference. It was flat out just a bad throw that wouldn’t have been caught regardless. If the Home Plate Umpire had half a brain he would have deferred to the 1st Base Umpire to rule on the play so he could undo his fuck up. Calling New York to rule on the play was a panic call after he realized he screwed up. New York told him to pound sand as they don’t make calls on judgement plays. Luckily his bad call didn’t cost Washington the Series or this would have gone down as the worst call ever!!!
 

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Shit.....Gotta do it tonight. Wake up Astro Bats, you're home:eek:

As far as the call, I think they got it right. Turner knocked the glove off La Pina's hand. Can't do that.....Interference as he was trying to catch the ball
 

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I don’t know OT, he was on the bag when it happened, no? Where is he supposed to go at that point? He was not inside the bag there.

Either way it’s do or die game now. Will be interesting to see how Greinke does. If I recall without looking at stats his post season efforts have not met his regular season successes. Kind of like Kershaw and Verlander.
 

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I don’t know OT, he was on the bag when it happened, no? Where is he supposed to go at that point? He was not inside the bag there.

Either way it’s do or die game now. Will be interesting to see how Greinke does. If I recall without looking at stats his post season efforts have not met his regular season successes. Kind of like Kershaw and Verlander.
Greinke has been effective, just hasn't been allowed to stay in the game long. AJ so far hasn't let a pitcher get in to deep before the hook.

As far as the call, you can't interfer with the 1st baseman's ability to catch the ball. Knocking his glove off before as the ball arrives in interference. His foot may have reached the bag as it happened but his body hit the glove simultaneously. He was called out for interfering with the catch, not with being inside of the baseline to first as the announcers called it.
 

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Greinke has been effective, just hasn't been allowed to stay in the game long. AJ so far hasn't let a pitcher get in to deep before the hook.

As far as the call, you can't interfer with the 1st baseman's ability to catch the ball. Knocking his glove off before as the ball arrives in interference. His foot may have reached the bag as it happened but his body hit the glove simultaneously. He was called out for interfering with the catch, not with being inside of the baseline to first as the announcers called it.

His swing kind of took him out of the base line. Throw to first was bad no matter what.

So is the runner supposed to look where the throw is going?

He didn't reach out and slap or hit the glove. Bad call. Rendon righted it though.
 

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That interference call at first base wasn't the biggest play in the game. I think that happened when bregman pulled his punk ass stunt of carrying the bat all the way to first base. Seems like that might have ignited the Nationals. I'm always for the American League team,even the Red Sox, but I think I'll be rooting for the Nats tonight because of that. I wish some of these guys that pull that crap would have to face somebody like Bob Gibson or Don Drysdale or Nolan Ryan after their stunts.
 

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His swing kind of took him out of the base line. Throw to first was bad no matter what.

So is the runner supposed to look where the throw is going?

He didn't reach out and slap or hit the glove. Bad call. Rendon righted it though.

I agree, the throw to first was not only bad but it was late.

Turner bats right so exiting the batters box naturally puts him on the left side of the baseline just like every right handed batter.

My Observation: When Turner's left foot hits the base it's just right of the 1st base center-line. Altuve's next at bat that followed I observed a very similar path to first base with the exception, Altuve's right foot hits the first base left of center. That puts more of Altuve's body over the base line than Turner's body. Altuve was called out because he didn't beat the throw but if he would have beaten the throw would he have been called out like Turner??? I don't think so, Turner being thrown out was simply a Bad Call. I'm glad Rendon hit one out in-spite of a lousy call.

Here's my Max Scherzer conspiracy theory. There is nothing wrong with Max, he was simply pulled from game five to be used in game 7. There wasn't a pitcher out there that was going to beat Cole in game 5 so why waste one of your best pitchers in a losing situation. That move gives the Nationals it's best chance to Win The Series. How is that possible if game 6 is in Houston with the Astro's needing only one win? Verlander on the mound...
 

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Here's my Max Scherzer conspiracy theory. There is nothing wrong with Max, he was simply pulled from game five to be used in game 7. There wasn't a pitcher out there that was going to beat Cole in game 5 so why waste one of your best pitchers in a losing situation. That move gives the Nationals it's best chance to Win The Series. How is that possible if game 6 is in Houston with the Astro's needing only one win? Verlander on the mound...

I had the same thoughts, lol. There is nothing better in sports than the drama of a Game 7. Should be a fun watch tonight!!!
 

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I guess that I was wrong in my thinking and I am sure my sport fanatical son would be happy to let me know that. I thought that since the runner took a straight line to the bag that it was not an issue. When he completed the hit he was standing at a point inside the baseline and ran straight to the bag. I guess that he should have taken the long route to the bag. :aniteef:
 

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I totally agree.. Team should fine him a portion of his kabillion yearly salary if he is unable to play in the most important game the team has been involved in in decades...However, look at the "Hero" possibility if he has to come back to an elimination game... Tied 3 and 3, and here he comes off his death bed, (ala Kurt Gibson) to pitch one for the "team" and maybe end his already over career..
As far as "rigged" play offs and series, I'm pretty sure the advertising contracts are established in such a way that the number of "final" games plays no role in the the revenue to the teams or the leagues.... Sure, TV will benefit better if 7 games are played as far as "hours for the bucks" of broadcast time for the major sponsors... But I think they pay $XXXXX regardless of how many games wind up the Championship series... Any other way would leave it wide open to fraudulent actions...
Ray


I worked for large ad agencies for over 2 decades....
That’s not how it works.

If the series runs short, ads weren’t run.
And if ads don’t run, we didn’t pay for them.

Longer series = more ad revenue

Some info here:
https://adage.com/article/sports/wh...rated-world-series-sports-media-brief/2210381
 

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His swing kind of took him out of the base line. Throw to first was bad no matter what.

So is the runner supposed to look where the throw is going?

He didn't reach out and slap or hit the glove. Bad call. Rendon righted it though.
Again, he interfered with the 1st baseman being able to catch the ball. Matters not where he was at in regards to the baseline, he can't interfer with the incoming baseball, see #5 below
3. Interference in the running lane
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There is a three-foot-wide running lane the last half (the last 45 feet) between home plate and first base. If you run outside this running lane while a play is being made from the vicinity of home plate (on a bunt, for example) you can be called out for interference. I said you "can" be called out for interference if running outside the lane. But not necessarily. We'll explain.

5.09(a)(11) is our rules reference, which reads in part:

"In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire's judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base ...."

This next video shows an example where the plate umpire (it's his call) calls Tampa Bay's Mikie Mahtook out for interference on a running lane violation. The throw, while not great, is "catchable," so the call is a good one.

When we said that you're not necessarily out for interference when running outside the running lane, we're calling attention to a few wrinkles in the rule. Here are the important points to remember when judging interference on a running lane violation:

  1. First, let's define the running lane: A three-foot-wide lane occupying the last half of the distance to first base. The lines marking the running lane are part of the running lane.
  2. When is a runner out of the running lane?The batter-runner is out of the running lane when, during the last half of the distance to first base, one of the runner's feet (or both, for that matter) is entirely outside the running lane at the time that the interference potentially (but again, not necessarily) occurs.
  3. A throw must be made. If the catcher, for example, comes up with a bunted ball and sets up to throw to first, but then stops and doesn't throw because the runner (in his view) is in the way, you cannot have interference.
  4. The throw must be a catchable throw. Using the same example, if the catcher comes up with a bunted ball and then throws wild to first base because (in his view) the runner was in the way, you cannot have interference.
  5. Note the language of the rule: "… interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base." Points #3 and #4, above, rest on this most important point: that is, if there is interference, the interference is on the fielder receiving the ball at first base and not on the fielder throwing the ball from the vicinity of home plate. This is very important when applying the rule. You're going to get managers arguing that the runner caused a fielder to throw wild, or not throw at all, but these are not valid arguments.
  6. Two exceptions. There are two exceptions (wrinkles, really) in 5.09(a)(11). First, the runner is permitted to leave the running lane to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball. We know this already from what we've learned thus far about interference – that the fielder has the right of way in fielding a batted ball. Second, noticing that first base itself (the bag) is outside the running lane, the runner is permitted by rule to step out of the running lane for the purpose of touching first base.
So all of this rather begs the question: when do you have interference on a running lane violation? Well, the most common scenario is when you have the runner outside the running lane and the fielder's throw to first base is on line, but the throw hits the runner in the back (or head) causing the ball to drop uncaught. This is not the only scenario, of course, but it's probably the most common one. Kill the ball, call the batter-runner out for interference, and return all runners (if any) to their last obtained base.

Note: High school (FED) rules differ somewhat. Whereas OBR requires that the throw from the vicinity of home plate be a "catchable throw" in order to have interference, FED rules do not have this requirement. Any throw to first base from the vicinity of home plate to retire a runner who is outside the running lane create legitimate grounds for calling running lane interference. (See FED Rule 8-4-1-g.)
 

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Again, he interfered with the 1st baseman being able to catch the ball. Matters not where he was at in regards to the baseline, he can't interfer with the incoming baseball, see #5 below

agreed.. we teach kids to utilize the running lane from little league... like almost every major league player, he stands as far back in the box as you can... his direct path wasnt exactly direct...


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I also think the delay killed the pitcher.. relievers need things to go faster.. way too much time out there...

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Greinke must have pictures of the ump fucking a sheep. Biggest strike zone ever.
 

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Reliever just gave up the lead with a two run blast. This game changed quickly...
 
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