Question for the left

[Old Texan]

Yes.

Rigging primaries by both the establishment parties is standard practice. Some call it the deep state, some call it standard practice. What one calls it just depends upon if at that current time, if that person is getting their way, or is not getting their way.

No matter what it is, politics, social groups, companies, or anytime people gather together those in charge always want to manipulate the system so that they stay in charge and get what they want that benefits them personally the most. And people outside the system think it is rigged and unfair. And those inside the system think it is standard practice.

The primary system in general across the nation is a joke and broken. To blame it on Trump is again, just a case of hating one man. The real problem is the establish you tip toe around admitting exists.

Your holier than thou accusations tend to reveal more of how you favor what benefits you, thus supporting the current broken system, more than they show how others do what you accuse them of doing.

If you really cared about fairness in accordance to the Constitution, you'd use your contacts like Flake to demand the primary system be fixed at both state and national levels.

Methinks your claims of being conservative and a Constitutionalist are hollow as revealed by your own posts.

 

[Old Texan]

Ironically, his independent vote likely contributed more to elect Trump than my actual Trump vote did in CA.

A point he will continue to deny.

 

[94Nautique]

He’d rather have the primaries rigged like the Democrats do [emoji106]


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Super Delegate. All you democrats, say it out loud, SUPER DELEGATE.

There, you just said your primary IS ALWAYS RIGGED, yet you say our democracy is in danger.

Fucking democrats lie, lie and lie some more. Then they make shit up so they can like some more.

 

[530RL]

Super Delegate. All you democrats, say it out loud, SUPER DELEGATE.

There, you just said your primary IS ALWAYS RIGGED, yet you say our democracy is in danger.

Fucking democrats lie, lie and lie some more. Then they make shit up so they can like some more.

LOL,

Are you referring to Republican Super Delegates or Democrat Super Delegates........

 

[Sandlord]

LOL,

Are you referring to Republican Super Delegates or Democrat Super Delegates........

Just the party whose superdelegates are not required to vote for the candidate that won the State.

 

[94Nautique]

LOL,

Are you referring to Republican Super Delegates or Democrat Super Delegates........

At least in name, superdelegates are not involved in the Republican Party nomination process. There are delegates to the Republican National Convention who are seated automatically, but they are limited to three per state, consisting of the state chairman and two district-level committee members. Republican Party superdelegates are obliged to vote for their state's popular vote winner under the rules of the party branch to which they belong.

"democrats" on the other hand have full blown called out super delegates, which total about 15% of the total "democrat" delegates, get to vote for who ever they want.

So you got a point there, turdy?

 

[530RL]

"democrats" on the other hand have full blown called out super delegates, which total about 15% of the total "democrat" delegates, get to vote for who ever they want.

So you got a point there, turdy?

LOL

Do they now?

Too smart by half don’t you say........

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/25/6417...rdelegates-in-presidential-nominating-process

 

[Racey]

I’m no expert, but isn’t this pretty much the common practice forever?

I read the stats one time that said a sitting president is something like 80% likely to get re-elected..

Why would they put up candidates and go head to head when they have the advantage from the get go?

And another 40 or so posts and some people will still call it a 'rigged process' even though Trump has 95% approval in his own party, would be a clear winner in any primary for the GOP.

A prime example of why they have ZERO CREDIBILITY, and it's really a complete waste of time to even enter discussion with them. Completely non productive.

 

[530RL]

...... Blah Blah Blah......

Completely non productive.

There are people in the United States that honestly believe Trump is a threat to the Constitution and National interests of the country.

I understand that those who support Trump had the same views with respect to HRC.

And I understand that just as they were willing to make any charges, whether based in fact or not, to keep her from being President, I would think you are rational enough to understand that those same methods would be used against Trump.

Live by the sword die by the sword.

That is the America Trump and his supporters embraced and his supporters should rationally understand that his opponents would understand how his methods were successful and engage accordingly.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Stop whining about those who learned from your leader.

 

[Sandlord]

There are people in the United States that honestly believe Trump is a threat to the Constitution and National interests of the country.

I understand that those who support Trump had the same views with respect to HRC.

And I understand that just as they were willing to make any charges, whether based in fact or not, to keep her from being President, I would think you are rational enough to understand that those same methods would be used against Trump.

Live by the sword die by the sword.

That is the America Trump and his supporters embraced and his supporters should rationally understand that his opponents would understand how his methods were successful and engage accordingly.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Stop whining about those who learned from your leader.

Actually, Conservatives felt Obama was the biggest threat to America and its constitution.
We waited 8 years, without trying to impeach him, for an opportunity to win an election and change the direction.
If you were a conservative, you would know this.

 

[530RL]

Actually, Conservatives felt Obama was the biggest threat to America and its constitution.
We waited 8 years, without trying to impeach him, for an opportunity to win an election and change the direction.
If you were a conservative, you would know this.

Substituting one big government big spending anti constitutional president for another is not a rational solution.

If you were a conservative you would understand this.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Substituting one big government big spending anti constitutional president for another is not a rational solution.

Care to tell us what and/or who is your "rational solution"?
(not interested in hearing what you would not do....heard it before)

 

[Sandlord]

Substituting one big government big spending anti constitutional president for another is not a rational solution.

If you were a conservative you would understand this.

HRC was already known to be crooked.
Trump was the best choice we had, and will be the best choice again in 2020.

 

[SNiC Jet]

HRC was already known to be crooked.
Trump was the best choice we had, and will be the best choice again in 2020.

The "rational solution" is to continue doing the best with what we got .......despite all the head winds of hate and media ridicules.......the best POTUS performance in decades ...
Best Election Ever PART II COMING SOON!... We > They

 

[was thatguy]

There are people in the United States that honestly believe Trump is a threat to the Constitution and National interests of the country.

I understand that those who support Trump had the same views with respect to HRC.

And I understand that just as they were willing to make any charges, whether based in fact or not, to keep her from being President, I would think you are rational enough to understand that those same methods would be used against Trump.

Live by the sword die by the sword.

That is the America Trump and his supporters embraced and his supporters should rationally understand that his opponents would understand how his methods were successful and engage accordingly.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Stop whining about those who learned from your leader.

You’re fucking high.
Obama and his gang of thieves from Holder to Killary are the biggest fucking criminals ever to disgrace the hill, and that’s saying a fucking lot.

Even comparing the criminal enterprise that Trump pulled the rug out from under (IE: your current heroes because they are Trumps enemies) with the non politician blow hard that is Trump exposes you as the complete bandwidth thief that you are.
Why do you even care?
You have no kids,
You’ve already stated that in the case of civil unrest you will flee to your safe place with your bales of money.
You have stated that you will continue to succeed (and I believe you) regardless of who is installed in the chair.
You vote for non electable candidates and thump your chest about it crowing about some sort of moral consistency when you’ve proven more than once you have no morals, and then blame others for election outcomes to do some sort of ego masturbation or whatever.
So why do you even care?
Why are you here?
They say GMac is a paid troll, but truthfully you fit the bill moreso than him.

So what’s your deal?
You’re long on blame and judgement, and batting a giant zero on solutions to imagined affronts against your view of things.
Fucking Shameus wasn’t as big a phony as you are.

 

[Racey]

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[wallnutz]

Just wait if he starts getting taxed at 47% like the dems want.

 

[brgrcru]

Substituting one big government big spending anti constitutional president for another is not a rational solution.

If you were a conservative you would understand this.

Yep and you and your boy jbs , had three years to bring up a conservative name that will real in , government spending . Three long years of crying , trump is bad , trump is mean . Trump is no conservative.

Grow a set of balls like a man , and tell us , who your guy is? Quit acting like a girly man.
If he is anything like you , he would of quit already , oh that's right he did quit .

 

[SNiC Jet]

Yep and you and your boy jbs , had three years to bring up a conservative name that will real in , government spending . Three long years of crying , trump is bad , trump is mean . Trump is no conservative.

Grow a set of balls like a man , and tell us , who your guy is? Quit acting like a girly man.
If he is anything like you , he would of quit already , oh that's right he did quit .

 

[was thatguy]

Just wait if he starts getting taxed at 47% like the dems want.

Mutherfucker will be offshore so fast all you’ll see is a vapor trail from that helicopter.

 

[was thatguy]

530 you are an independent ,why do you care who the opponent that will crush you're pick is?

He doesn’t care.

His speech will hardly vary.
It’s all our fault and we are all pro government and blah blah blah.
Makes no difference who wins.

 

[RCDave]

This pretty much sums it all up for the leftie commies..

 

[530RL]

This pretty much sums it all up for the leftie commies..

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Great post.

You have just perfectly described a trump voter.

 

[was thatguy]

Great post.

You have just perfectly described a trump voter.

You’re fucking high.

 

[brgrcru]

Great post.

You have just perfectly described a trump voter.

You are a pathetic little man .

 

[RodnJen]

This pretty much sums it all up for the leftie commies..

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Weak.

 

[RCDave]

Weak.

Truth is quite the bitch, for the programmed commie .

 

[JBS]

This pretty much sums it all up for the leftie commies..

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I do not disagree that this is what the Dem party is saying. It is why Trump is able to do just about anything and the Republicans cheer.




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[brgrcru]

Weak.

What's week about it.
Your party is not the party of even 20 years ago.
Everyone of the top candidates , but one , is pushing for a socialist agenda . Thats being nice, it's more like a commie agenda .
The one that isn't , is to old and doesn't remember what he said the day before . He is also corrupt as the day , is long .

 

[RCDave]

I do not disagree that this is what the Dem party is saying. It is why Trump is able to do just about anything and the Republicans cheer.




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Both sides peddle the same manure. The leftists are just better getting their sheep to follow

 

[RodnJen]

What's week about it.
Your party is not the party of even 20 years ago.
Everyone of the top candidates , but one , is pushing for a socialist agenda . Thats being nice, it's more like a commie agenda .
The one that isn't , is to old and doesn't remember what he said the day before . He is also corrupt as the day , is long .

Neither is yours.

 

[RodnJen]

Both sides peddle the same manure. The leftists are just better getting their sheep to follow

Trump’s approval rating says otherwise.

 

[RCDave]

Neither is yours.

The r today is essential the d of 20 years ago. Insane how far left the d party has slid to full blown commie pinko and r party hard left. And how insane both sheep flocks defend the insanity

 

[RCDave]

Trump’s approval rating says otherwise.

Your beloved d party didnt fair so well during the last 4 years of the commie pinko Obama either.

 

[530RL]

The r today is essential the d of 20 years ago. Insane how far left the d party has slid to full blown commie pinko and r party hard left. And how insane both sheep flocks defend the insanity

You are absolutely right. Or as Trumpkins would say.

You’re high.

 

[RCDave]

You are absolutely right.

Thanks. Right I am. Except the r party left me stranded. And your message gets lost in a sea of anti Trump diatribe.

Bottom line is the USA will never have another great leader. No one with brains would want the title of president.

 

[530RL]

Thanks. Right I am. Except the r party left me stranded. And your message gets lost in a sea of anti Trump diatribe.

Bottom line is the USA will never have another great leader. No one with brains would want the title of president.

Interesting how they agreed with the same message in my anti-Obama diatribe.

They don’t have convictions, just devotion to a cult personality.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Interesting how they agreed with the same message in my anti-Obama diatribe.

They don’t have convictions, just devotion to a cult personality.

Your messages never change.......Long on opposition....short on solutions and offering nothing thereof.
Hell, any coward can stand on the sidelines and point fingers..... it takes courage to implement real change and progress....... undeniably the best POTUS performance in decades, and all you wanna do is bitch about it because you hate him.
It appears obvious from my perspective that Trump's personality is having way more effect on your "culture of hate" than those who elected him....FYI, You are obsessed!

 

[was thatguy]

Interesting how they agreed with the same message in my anti-Obama diatribe.

They don’t have convictions, just devotion to a cult personality.

Your assessment is inaccurate.
It’s often pointed out that nothing gets accomplished politically without compromise.
What have your “convictions” accomplished for you politically speaking?
You’ve seemingly influenced nothing.
To hear you tell it, virtually every political contest from local to the big chair has not gone to your satisfaction, and it’s all our fault.
Is it possible that it is your “convictions” that are contributing to this paradigm?
I mean, Captain Ahab had unwavering convictions too. Far more than you.

Is it your “convictions” that lead you to ally with those you disagree with politically and socially strictly to address a shared hatred of one man?

“Convictions”...I question your understanding of the meaning of the word, and have seen nothing on this forum that would suggest that you posses any conviction beyond that everyone is wrong except you.

 

[t&y]

Weak.

Lol.. Weak? That is the platform your party is running on. Change my mind...

 

[RodnJen]

Lol.. Weak? That is the platform your party is running on. Change my mind...

Ok.

 

[RiverDave]

Yes.

Rigging primaries by both the establishment parties is standard practice. Some call it the deep state, some call it standard practice. What one calls it just depends upon if at that current time, if that person is getting their way, or is not getting their way.

No matter what it is, politics, social groups, companies, or anytime people gather together those in charge always want to manipulate the system so that they stay in charge and get what they want that benefits them personally the most. And people outside the system think it is rigged and unfair. And those inside the system think it is standard practice.

Well rigging a primary (in the case of a fraudulent election) seems to be a little different than having a seated nomination?

One implies fraud, the other implies seniority.

Am I wrong in my thinking here? In almost any tournament situation in any sport or competition the upper level competitors are “seated”

 

[was thatguy]

Well rigging a primary (in the case of a fraudulent election) seems to be a little different than having a seated nomination?

One implies fraud, the other implies seniority.

Am I wrong in my thinking here? In almost any tournament situation in any sport or competition the upper level competitors are “seated”

You’re not wrong.

 

[Old Texan]

I do not disagree that this is what the Dem party is saying. It is why Trump is able to do just about anything and the Republicans cheer.




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Citizens cheer because he ain't O, he ain't HRC, and he actually relates to the taxpayers who are tired of the lopsided playing field brought on by open borders and unfair business practices plus out of control government fraud.

The debt and deficit spending are big concerns that will be fixed/addresed as soon as Congress can be reigned in to concentrate on the people's business rather than just trying to get rid of Trump.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Florida Audit Finds 24k Illegal Votes in ONE County: “Dead Voters, Double Voting, Double Registrations, Noncitizen Voting”

Nov 10,2019
A new report is raising concerns in the state of Florida one year before the 2020 elections. The shocking report shows that Palm Beach County, Florida has AT LEAST 24,000 instances of “voter irregularities” which means that there are deceased voters, double voters, and double registrations. They also found cases of illegal aliens registering to vote!

“Perhaps most alarming of all, apparent noncitizens were documented registering to vote in Palm Beach County—sometimes while admitting their immigration status on voter applications.”

 

[Carlson-jet]

Florida Audit Finds 24k Illegal Votes in ONE County: “Dead Voters, Double Voting, Double Registrations, Noncitizen Voting”

Nov 10,2019
A new report is raising concerns in the state of Florida one year before the 2020 elections. The shocking report shows that Palm Beach County, Florida has AT LEAST 24,000 instances of “voter irregularities” which means that there are deceased voters, double voters, and double registrations. They also found cases of illegal aliens registering to vote!

“Perhaps most alarming of all, apparent noncitizens were documented registering to vote in Palm Beach County—sometimes while admitting their immigration status on voter applications.”

PHFFF.. They are ALL Republicans..
Florida cleared a bunch of voters from their rosters and then were sued to put them back on.
There is a Vid on youtube about a woman and her husband that can't seem to get themselves removed even though the husband faces deportation because he is here on a visa or something. The crazy part is they don't live in Florida. I will dig around to find it.