Radius Arms - Canned Ham

[RiverDave]

what is the setup on these? Two in tension and middle in compression? Or?

I’m gonna have to do some ninja shit tonight or tomorrow on the can am. That middle one is looser than the rest and the nut that holds it in place is loose..

Unfortunately that nut is in there..

Which happens to be attached too

Which happens to be one giant solid piece that..

There isn’t a wrench I am aware of that is gonna do the task. So option 1 is take the whole freakin car apart to get the cage off of it.. or option 2 is make a wrench.

I designed one in my head and I’m going to machine it later tonight or tomorrow morning so I can tighten the nut.

All that said this one seems to be much looser than the other ones in its current position so it probably needs to go one way or the other. So compression or tension? How much? What’s the proper setup on these?

 

[robert1050]

Where does the canned ham come in?





J/K.......auto correct

 

[RiverDave]

Where does the canned ham come in?





J/K.......auto correct

That’s what everyone calls them. Lol

 

[EBT531]

I'd call the place that put it together and ask. Might want to let them know their design is pretty poor as these could need adjustment etc. in the future. They may have a trick for you vs taking it all apart?

 

[69hondo]

Call the guy that built it and tell him to get his ass to Havasu and finish the car. LOL

 

[gqchris]

Not a speck of dirt on the car and already wrenching. That would irritate the living shit out of me!

You are way more understanding then me, Dave!

 

[Waffles]

60k and you still have to wrench on your own shit to get it right?

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[RiverDave]

I'd call the place that put it together and ask. Might want to let them know their design is pretty poor as these could need adjustment etc. in the future. They may have a trick for you vs taking it all apart?

There’s no trick here.. lol. That shit is all welded together and one piece mounted on studs.

 

[RiverDave]

Before you guys go banging on the builder etc.. Jimbo said he’d take care of it and absolutely stands behind his work. Said I can bring it back or take it to a shop here and he would handle the bill.

That all said I know what it’s gonna take to tighten one stupid nut. I have the ability to machine a wrench that will fit in there pretty quickly so I am choosing to do that as opposed to take the whole car apart.

 

[RiverDave]

60k and you still have to wrench on your own shit to get it right?

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Such a hater.. lol. From magic boxes to Can Ams, always the same with you.

 

[HCP3]

Trim that ziptie on the hitch receiver!

 

[RiverDave]

Trim that ziptie on the hitch receiver!

Right? Lol.

 

[EBT531]

Before you guys go banging on the builder etc.. Jimbo said he’d take care of it and absolutely stands behind his work. Said I can bring it back or take it to a shop here and he would handle the bill.

That all said I know what it’s gonna take to tighten one stupid but. I have the ability to machine a wrench that will fit in there pretty quickly so I am choosing to do that as opposed to take the whole car apart.

Don't forget the locktite! The arms on my Jeep loosened up a couple of times as it broke in. I'd hate to see you having to do this multiple times.

 

[Activated]

Such a hater.. lol. From magic boxes to Can Ams, always the same with you.

You forgot CBD.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Loctite everything while you are in there.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Waffles]

Such a hater.. lol. From magic boxes to Can Ams, always the same with you.

 

[RiverDave]

Don't forget the locktite! The arms on my Jeep loosened up a couple of times as it broke in. I'd hate to see you having to do this multiple times.

Well once ya got the wrench it wouldn’t be a big deal. Lol.

I’m thinking about making them and selling them to shops that run into this problem.. (seriously). All these scorpion style cages look cool but god damn if you ever need to tighten that but or get in there it’s a serious freakin problem. Knowing what I know now I would have made the rear part removable.

 

[RiverDave]

Lol.. I’d still buy you a beer.. or a goat whatever.

 

[Universal Elements]

Do you think something like this may work? You may have to grind the opening for it to fit. Hey also make them in 1/2 drive.

 

[79 HUSTLER]

Now if only some genius made a better mount to weld those tubes to..... wait a minute....

 

[c_land]

could you pull it from the outer and turn the whole radius rod to get it tight? compensate for the length on the other end?

Might mess with some people's OCD, but I've seen some seriously worse mickey moused shit that held up forever lol

 

[RiverDave]

could you pull it from the outer and turn the whole radius rod to get it tight? compensate for the length on the other end?

Might mess with some people's OCD, but I've seen some seriously worse mickey moused shit that held up forever lol

Yeah I’m not doing that.

 

[throttle]

oh geez, I sure hope there is a way to get in there without having to remove rear bumper, spare tire, cage. If it broke in the desert, how can it be fixed or replaced?

 

[RiverDave]

View attachment 818964 Now if only some genius made a better mount to weld those tubes to..... wait a minute....

Yeah another half inch of clearance and you could get a crows foot in there to some degree.

Can’t really see the sides of that one but it looks pretty thin?

Either way this problem is a lot more simple than most think it is. When ya see the solution you are gonna say “oh.”

 

[throttle]

my OCD see's a ziptie that needs to be clipped

I wanna see more pics of the build

 

[c_land]

Yeah I’m not doing that.

Lol no fun.

 

[79 HUSTLER]

Yeah another half inch of clearance and you could get a crows foot in there to some degree.

Can’t really see the sides of that one but it looks pretty thin?

Either way this problem is a lot more simple than most think it is. When ya see the solution you are gonna say “oh.”

Can’t see the sides but it looks thin??? Ok. It’s .200 plenty thick. Ha.

 

[RiverDave]

oh geez, I sure hope there is a way to get in there without having to remove rear bumper, spare tire, cage. If it broke in the desert, how can it be fixed or replaced?

If you had the parts I suppose you could just run the upper and lower and not worry about it to go home.

That said I can’t really see a scenario where you’d break the middle one without really hurting the car.

 

[buck35]

That There is an injuneering marvel or is installed backwards burying the adjuster.

 

[RiverDave]

Can’t see the sides but it looks thin??? Ok. It’s .200 plenty thick. Ha.

Pics can be deceiving!

 

[RiverDave]

That There is an injuneering marvel or is installed backwards burying the adjuster.

1st.

Honestly I’m not even sure why Assault put to Heims on this part?

 

[chvynhra]

Why not just unbolt the link, remove it and tighten the jam nut off the car?

 

[fmo24]

How about a ratcheting dog bone.
(Box end)

 

[RiverDave]

View attachment 818963

Do you think something like this may work? You may have to grind the opening for it to fit. Hey also make them in 1/2 drive.

A traditional crows foot won’t fit. Although one of those might?

By the time it got here I’ll already be done though.

 

[RiverDave]

Why not just unbolt the link, remove it and tighten the jam nut off the car?

Huh?

 

[RiverDave]

How about a ratcheting dog bone.
(Box end)

The diameter of the center section is larger. There’s no way to get the wrench on

 

[RiverDave]

By the way I looked up the answer on the web and it basically said “make them the same length as factory”.

Ok?

 

[02HoWaRd26]

It is just a tie rod, remove it from the outer side, then spin the assault bar off the heim. Once you do you can access the jam nut with your fingers, yes it’ll take a few times but adjust and tighten to the rod then reattach at the hub.

Realistically you don’t have to have both jam nuts tight you just have to have one side tight. One is a left other is a right hand thread so the whole shaft has to turn to do anything. So if just the outside is tight it won’t go anywhere at all.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Why are you wasting your time with all of this Dave? Remove the radius rod (might need to remove 2 to get it out), tighten the jam nut and put it back in.

Absolute worst case, remove all three inner radius rod bolts slide that rear corner outward, pop the axle out of the trans and remove the sway bar end link.

That can be fixed quicker than you can make the tool.

FWIW this is why I dislike that style of cage.. Makes it huge ordeal to work on the rear suspension/rear of the car especially in the field.

 

[jones performance]

It is just a tie rod, remove it from the outer side, then spin the assault bar off the heim. Once you do you can access the jam nut with your fingers, yes it’ll take a few times but adjust and tighten to the rod then reattach at the hub.

Realistically you don’t have to have both jam nuts tight you just have to have one side tight. One is a left other is a right hand thread so the whole shaft has to turn to do anything. So if just the outside is tight it won’t go anywhere at all.

unless assault has changed their design the threads are rh on both ends which means you gotta atake the whole fucking thing apart to adjust toe and camber.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

unless assault has changed their design the threads are rh on both ends which means you gotta atake the whole fucking thing apart to adjust toe and camber.

Are you Fking for real? Who would do that? That means no actual room for adjustment. And now i remember why these are considered just big golf carts.

 

[HB2Havasu]

What does the Center Radius Rod do? Is it just a failsafe if the Upper or Lower Rod fail? Curious minds want to know, lol.

 

[King295]

I'm pretty sure anyone that has ever built something from Ikea and retained the fuckery they call tools to build it will have something that will get the job done.

 

[RaceTec]

I was going to say similar to 02, remove it from the outside, spin the bar off, back the nut off a couple turns lock tight it. Put the nut back in position on the lock tight, let it harden. Then reinstall the bar tight against the nut and adjust the length on the outside... No special wrench or removal needed...

 

[Mike Honcho]

Maybe i am missing something but could you unbolt the outer heim after finger tightening the inner jam drop some Locktite and turn the assault rod to tighten up on the inner jam and then screw out the outer heim to how ever much it took to tighten the inner and re-bolt it back up?

 

[chvynhra]

Huh?

Pretty much what LOF said. The middle link is just there to get around Polaris' patent and doesn't do much anyways.

 

[RiverDave]

unless assault has changed their design the threads are rh on both ends which means you gotta atake the whole fucking thing apart to adjust toe and camber.

No shit??

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

No shit??

I'd LOL if that was the case, but for non racers, they are pretty much "set and forget", so I would not be surprised.

My Super ATV rods are L and R threaded, and the rod is even marked on the R threaded side.

Nice hitch cover.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Pretty much what LOF said. The middle link is just there to get around Polaris' patent and doesn't do much anyways.

I don't own a Can Am but you can pretty much run without the middle one, right?