Danger Dave
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Where are they trying to put it? Moved from that area about 7 years ago, but haven't been on that stretch of Foothill since. Are they going just south?We are currently fighting Amazon trying to put a 300,000 sq ft warehouse in Upland, just below Cable Airport. We will have protests on 12/6 and 12/13 from 1500-1700 hours at the location. Meet us at Lowe's and grab a protest sign!
But they hired her anyways, and I would have to assume that they knew this might be a potential liability?At 54, a lady took a job as a stock handler...and sprained her back.
I'm 42 with spinal fusions...and no disability or unemployment pay...
The nature of the job is what it is when you apply. I don't feel sorry for her, as no one should feel bad for me.
Maybe she should have stayed in school too?
Companies are afraid not to hire qualified people for fear of discrimination lawsuits.But they hired here anyways, and I would have to assume that they knew this might be a potential liability?
it doesn't sound like she was qualified though...Companies are afraid not to hire qualified people for fear of discrimination lawsuits.
Only the government can discriminate.
Just out of curiosity why are you fighting against it?We are currently fighting Amazon trying to put a 300,000 sq ft warehouse in Upland, just below Cable Airport. We will have protests on 12/6 and 12/13 from 1500-1700 hours at the location. Meet us at Lowe's and grab a protest sign!
I would agree, but unless there’s a physical involved and or some kind of testing people that are desperate and wanting or needing to work will try anything I guess.it doesn't sound like she was qualified though...
The entire premises of AMZN is built on convenience and speed, so maybe they just hire whoever and are so big they can deal with the fallout and lawsuits by employees?But.... They can't do physicals or else that would be discrimination. How many of the injured people are in good physical condition and are physically capable of performing strenuous activity day in and day out? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say likely far more than half. Probably closer to 70% would be my guess. Like this lady. Yeah, Amazon creates a fairly hazardous situation with the pace, but people that don't take care of their bodies and apply for positions like that are a large part of the problem as well.
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Thats always a portion of it. But without a legal method of being able to weed out the physically unfit prior to hiring, these issues will continue to arise. For a company as large as Amazon, if they could devise a simple test and/or physical prior to hiring, they would. It would save them substantial money in insurance costs and probable lawsuits.The entire premises of AMZN is built on convenience and speed, so maybe they just hire whoever and are so big they can deal with the fallout and lawsuits by employees?
Clearing out Grad's closet in less then 8 hours or less of his collection would be all inclusive?Thats always a portion of it. But without a legal method of being able to weed out the physically unfit prior to hiring, these issues will continue to arise. For a company as large as Amazon, if they could devise a simple test and/or physical prior to hiring, they would. It would save them substantial money in insurance costs and probable lawsuits.
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Great question!Just out of curiosity why are you fighting against it?
It sounds like you have your concerns in order. I'm sure if proper provisions were made to maintain the quality of the neighborhood, ingress/egress were accounted for and taxation to be within line it might not be an issue. Amazon is the new walmart on Super steroids imo.Great question!
As a Logistics center, Amazon will be paying the City of Upland a one time fee of approx. $2 million dollars, and this warehouse has a 100 year lease. There is no further residual monies for Upland at all. With the destruction of the roadways, that $2 Million will be gone within the first paving job on Benson Ave, and the roads will need to be repaired at least every 3-4 years for the next 100 years. With 1600 vans making 3-4 deliveries a day, you can expect an excess of 4,000 more vehicles on the roadway, primarily Baseline Road, which turns into 16th Street. There are also at least 25 53' foot tractor/trailers which will be allowed to deliver 24 hours a day, severely impacting the noise in a predominantly residential area. The warehouse will be fully automated, but they claim they may need UP TO 200 employees maximum. The biggest issue is that this "Prototype" Logistics Center will not provide ANY taxes to the City of Upland, ever. Lastly, Bridge Development, the contractor for the Amazon, refuses to comply with or complete any Environmental Impact Report (EIR), and will only comply with a Mitigated Negative Impact Report, to hide any full traffic studies, health concerns, and potential fuel runoff from the uphill Airport.
Sorry for the long rant, but as a director of the Upland Coalition of Concerned Citizens, we are fighting this land use to the fullest extent possible.
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As a Logistics center, Amazon will be paying the City of Upland a one time fee of approx. $2 million dollars, and this warehouse has a 100 year lease. There is no further residual monies for Upland at all. With the destruction of the roadways, that $2 Million will be gone within the first paving job on Benson Ave, and the roads will need to be repaired at least every 3-4 years for the next 100 years. With 1600 vans making 3-4 deliveries a day, you can expect an excess of 4,000 more vehicles on the roadway, primarily Baseline Road, which turns into 16th Street. There are also at least 25 53' foot tractor/trailers which will be allowed to deliver 24 hours a day, severely impacting the noise in a predominantly residential area. The warehouse will be fully automated, but they claim they may need UP TO 200 employees maximum. The biggest issue is that this "Prototype" Logistics Center will not provide ANY taxes to the City of Upland, ever. Lastly, Bridge Development, the contractor for the Amazon, refuses to comply with or complete any Environmental Impact Report (EIR), and will only comply with a Mitigated Negative Impact Report, to hide any full traffic studies, health concerns, and potential fuel runoff from the uphill Airport.
Sorry for the long rant, but as a director of the Upland Coalition of Concerned Citizens, we are fighting this land use to the fullest extent possible.
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sounds like a concern for the City Planners and commissioners. The city must be making some other revenues on this proposal??..
Things have changed. Now if you tell someone "no" you best be prepared for a lawsuit. Like said before, physical condition and shape are not considered sufficient reasons for not hiring a person.I worked for two different grocery warehouses while going to college and neither of the companies would have hired that lady. Maybe, things have changed but at the time we had to pass a physical. I am really surprised they hired her. These type of jobs are for young-men, jobs built to tear down your body though crazy amounts of repetitive motion and in some cases heavy lifting. In the different warehouses I worked, I only knew of 2 women that were hired as order selectors (they were bad-asses but still only pulled the standard). Over time you can learn tricks to become more efficient but the standards just keep creeping up to a point where new hires just leave during lunch-time and never come back.
Thats always a portion
I worked for two different grocery warehouses while going to college and neither of the companies would have hired that lady. Maybe, things have changed but at the time we had to pass a physical. I am really surprised they hired her. These type of jobs are for young-men, jobs built to tear down your body though crazy amounts of repetitive motion and in some cases heavy lifting. In the different warehouses I worked, I only knew of 2 women that were hired as order selectors (they were bad-asses but still only pulled the standard). Over time you can learn tricks to become more efficient but the standards just keep creeping up to a point where new hires just leave during lunch-time and never come back.
Things have changed. Now if you tell someone "no" you best be prepared for a lawsuit. Like said before, physical condition and shape are not considered sufficient reasons for not hiring a person.
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of it. But without a legal method of being able to weed out the physically unfit prior to hiring, these issues will continue to arise. For a company as large as Amazon, if they could devise a simple test and/or physical prior to hiring, they would. It would save them substantial money in insurance costs and probable lawsuits.
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Those delivery demands aren’t that bad UPS drivers have been doing that for over 100 yearsRespectfully I disagree with all of you. A couple of people who have stated on here that Amazon doesn’t give a shit above safety just speed are correct.
I know on a firsthand basis that if you are a driver, you are expected to deliver 180 stops minimum on a 8 hour shift. That’s 1 stop every 3.75 minutes. Stop not packages. Might be one box or 3 boxes or whatever amount per stop. Reckless as fuck too. Dogs chasing you, specific instructions to follow. And here is the kicker, fuck up or not.... get 3 complaints from a customer and you are fired. No buts, ifs and defending yourself is even an option.
The young guy statement is bullshit too. Remember, firsthand knowledge. Out of a hiring class of 23 drivers, 7 weeks later only 3 remain. All of them are 25 or younger, they will be quitting too. The conditions they are working in are screwed up. They eat and drink while driving. Want to take a piss, better learn all the locations of bathrooms on your route. Don’t have time to take a shit.
A relative of mine played college football. He is 25 years old now and going to school for a another field. So, he took a job as a driver for Amazon to make money because his work schedule is Wed - Sun. He is 6’2” and weighed 225. In 6 weeks, he has lost 35 pounds. He works his ass off. My next door neighbor works at an Amazon warehouse. Most jobs are automated, but the human ones are grueling with an injury waiting to happen.
Trust me, I have friends that are 50, 60, 70 and one who is 80+. I could honestly say that no 20 - 40 year old would even come close In work wise (in every aspect). Some on here, know who I’m talking about. One guys who got it right (and is no longer here) was Whiteworks. He only hired the old school guys. Dependable, hard workers and know their shit.
As far as Amazon, it’s going to be a monopoly. Get rid of all the competition and then the prices go up. also, big brother is watching what you buy, how much you spend and etc. All traceable. Who knows, could affect your health insurance, life insurance and other things in life. You know, sort of like Uber and Lyft. Great idea until it’s not. Taxi man bad, ride sharing is great. Well, when it first began the rates were cheap and the convenience was great. Then, the drivers figured out that even driving both Lyft and Uber at the same time, you don’t make shit. After deducting gasoline, insurance, maintenance and wear and tear on your car, you make peanuts. That’s why the drivers now hold protests and figured out why taxis actually had to charge more to make ends meet. Same thing will happen to Amazon. Especially if the pro union democrats are in control. There are a lot of scenarios that would take place. Look what happened to New York. Who will pay for it all... all of us. Prices will have to go up because there will no longer be any competition and all the extra costs endured by Amazon will have to be paid by us.
Those delivery demands aren’t that bad UPS drivers have been doing that for over 100 years
Respectfully I disagree with all of you. A couple of people who have stated on here that Amazon doesn’t give a shit above safety just speed are correct.
I know on a firsthand basis that if you are a driver, you are expected to deliver 180 stops minimum on a 8 hour shift. That’s 1 stop every 3.75 minutes. Stop not packages. Might be one box or 3 boxes or whatever amount per stop. Reckless as fuck too. Dogs chasing you, specific instructions to follow. And here is the kicker, fuck up or not.... get 3 complaints from a customer and you are fired. No buts, ifs and defending yourself is even an option.
The young guy statement is bullshit too. Remember, firsthand knowledge. Out of a hiring class of 23 drivers, 7 weeks later only 3 remain. All of them are 25 or younger, they will be quitting too. The conditions they are working in are screwed up. They eat and drink while driving. Want to take a piss, better learn all the locations of bathrooms on your route. Don’t have time to take a shit.
A relative of mine played college football. He is 25 years old now and going to school for a another field. So, he took a job as a driver for Amazon to make money because his work schedule is Wed - Sun. He is 6’2” and weighed 225. In 6 weeks, he has lost 35 pounds. He works his ass off. My next door neighbor works at an Amazon warehouse. Most jobs are automated, but the human ones are grueling with an injury waiting to happen.
Trust me, I have friends that are 50, 60, 70 and one who is 80+. I could honestly say that no 20 - 40 year old would even come close In work wise (in every aspect). Some on here, know who I’m talking about. One guys who got it right (and is no longer here) was Whiteworks. He only hired the old school guys. Dependable, hard workers and know their shit.
As far as Amazon, it’s going to be a monopoly. Get rid of all the competition and then the prices go up. also, big brother is watching what you buy, how much you spend and etc. All traceable. Who knows, could affect your health insurance, life insurance and other things in life. You know, sort of like Uber and Lyft. Great idea until it’s not. Taxi man bad, ride sharing is great. Well, when it first began the rates were cheap and the convenience was great. Then, the drivers figured out that even driving both Lyft and Uber at the same time, you don’t make shit. After deducting gasoline, insurance, maintenance and wear and tear on your car, you make peanuts. That’s why the drivers now hold protests and figured out why taxis actually had to charge more to make ends meet. Same thing will happen to Amazon. Especially if the pro union democrats are in control. There are a lot of scenarios that would take place. Look what happened to New York. Who will pay for it all... all of us. Prices will have to go up because there will no longer be any competition and all the extra costs endured by Amazon will have to be paid by us.
650000 employees. Injuries and lawsuits are part of the business plan
I would guess 20% of that number are employees that are less than trustworthy.