1966 Pontiac GTO

[Wheeler]

Ran across this one today. It will be heading to Pomona tonight.
Are these cars worth much?

 

[rivrrts429]

Auto and no tri power so probably not. They do have worth when equipped from factory properly.

How much are they asking Wheeler?

 

[PlanB]

Cool car. I had a 64 with Tri-Power and a M22 manual. Sold it for nothing in the 80’s. Stupid decision. To the right person that 66 would be worth something.

 

[Wheeler]

Auto and no tri power so probably not. They do have worth when equipped from factory properly.

How much are they asking Wheeler?

He's asking 15k. I didn't bother looking very close as I have no interest in it myself.

 

[rivrrts429]

He's asking 15k.

My Dad had a 66 Goat with tri power and manual. It was a fast car for how big they are.

 

[HBCraig]

Again, if it was a factory tri power the. 15k would be okay. But for this total project not so much

 

[RitcheyRch]

My Mom has a '64, factory tri-power, 4 speed car that she raced at Lions Dragstrip in the late 60s. My Mom passed a few years ago and now my Dad takes it to the local cruise nights.

Cool car. I had a 64 with Tri-Power and a M22 manual. Sold it for nothing in the 80’s. Stupid decision. To the right person that 66 would be worth something.

 

[PlanB]

There is a restored 64 in San Diego with an auto and 455 selling for 56k right now. 15 might be a little strong for the condition that car appear to be in. For the right price it would be a cool project.

 

[PlanB]

My Mom has a '64, factory tri-power, 4 speed car that she raced at Lions Dragstrip in the late 60s. My Mom passed a few years ago and now my Dad takes it to the local cruise nights.

Killer car. I wish I still had mine.

 

[ChevelleSB406]

Is it worth it? That's a personal decision rather than a market decision. If it runs and drives and is complete, he will get the money. Project cars these days are stupid expensive. From what I see, its the typical pontiac front fuel feed rochester, so its sitting probably on a 389, possibly 350 even, I don't remember what all was offered that year. Personally if I was looking to do one, I would look for something where someone else already is losing money on it and had it painted and such. I could see getting a nice looker in low 20's, and anyone that has priced decent paint, chrome, and interior recently knows that you would be well ahead letting someone else spend on the labor of love.

But collectibility wise, no, restored this will not be worth what it would take to get it there. 389 tri power manual even wouldn't be if you are the first to sink money into it.

 

[spectras only]

Go through the docket list here. Lot of Goats listed.That car posted here needs a lot to be worth a lot
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Eve...-4e79-af85-a1a5540828d6/01-11-2020/01-19-2020

 

[Wheeler]

I don't know a 389 from a 428. Here's the engine.

 

[RitcheyRch]

needs some work since sat for many years. My friend Jon went through the suspension, brakes and added a gear vendor overdrive to it. Dad found a place to completely re-wire the car using an American Autowire harness.

The interior really could use getting the carpeting, seats and headliner redone at some point.

Killer car. I wish I still had mine.

 

[dribble]

Up side is that it looks like an original manual trans car with console. In 1966 the automatics used were Powerglides. One concern is the Rochester Quadrajet. Great carb but was not used until 1967. 1966 used a Rochester 4 jet. Could be later engine. From what I can see the body looks great. If I was in the market I would pay 10-12K for that car.

 

[rvrrun]

I don't know a 389 from a 428. Here's the engine.

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They are tough to tell apart. If memory serves that should have a 389 and ‘67 was the first 400.

I bought a ‘67 with 26k miles for $575.

...but that was in 1984

 

[spectras only]

Up side is that it looks like an original manual trans car with console. In 1966 the automatics used were Powerglides. One concern is the Rochester Quadrajet. Great carb but was not used until 1967. 1966 used a Rochester 4 jet. Could be later engine. From what I can see the body looks great. If I was in the market I would pay 10-12K for that car.

It looks like a auto tranny in the car. Wide brake pedal with no clutch pedal in sight It could be a hacked manual car though.

 

[92562]

It looks like a auto tranny in the car. Wide brake pedal with no clutch pedal in sight It could be a hacked manual car though.

Console is a 4 speed console. The automatic console does not have an opening that big.

 

[spectras only]

Console is a 4 speed console. The automatic console does not have an opening that big.

Explain the lack of clutch pedal then. Looks like the T handle shifter is in the park mode too.The chrome button on the handle is also the lock out.
Yep, the console is a manual, so it would be easy to get the car close to original.

 

[Mcob25rg]

Agreed - personal decision. If you are looking to make $$$ after restoration, free probably won't get you there. If you want a project, and really like it, to keep, maybe, but i see $20,000 in fix it costs.

 

[76 Hondo]

One went through BJ ‘s the other night brought $160,000.

 

[GRADS]

Couple pics of my buddy's 66 convertible...

 

[GRADS]

This 66 sold for $77K at BJ yesterday.

 

[spectras only]

This one went for 66K today

 

[spectras only]

Grads beat me

This Le Mans sold for $36300

65 sold for $79200

65 sold $66K

 

[Bigbore500r]

Car looks like a good project to me. Appears to be complete, no major body damage (at least on that side....). If rust is minimal and the car hasn't been butchered i'd say it may be worth it. Depends on how handy you are, as having a shop do EVERYTHING will probably put you over budget

 

[aka619er]

My grandma gave me one in 1995. No damage, or rust. So Cal car all its life. I was a spoiled little shit and only into trucks. Ended up calling Ecology and being stoked they gave me $300 for it.

Always wondered if it made it to the scrap yard or the drivers took it home laughing the whole way.

 

[spectras only]

The body on this GTO looks to be in good shape, so it's definitely worth rescuing.
We have a original paint 63 Falcon Futura auto in my son's garage, ready to replace engine and transmission for manual car conversion.
Paint maybe coming later, just make the car street ready with new suspension components.

 

[HST4ME]

If it is a 428 that is a very desirable motor.

 

[HBCraig]

My Mom has a '64, factory tri-power, 4 speed car that she raced at Lions Dragstrip in the late 60s. My Mom passed a few years ago and now my Dad takes it to the local cruise nights.

So cool

 

[ChevelleSB406]

The black 66 Grads posted is bad ass, and illustrates my point. With 50k in hand, I don't think you could buy something like what is above and get it to that level, it would be close if you are handy, but to do it right, I already have most of that spent in my head on paint and parts, no labor included.

 

[spectras only]

this just went through at 95K. Sema showcase car

 

[Wheeler]

They are tough to tell apart. If memory serves that should have a 389 and ‘67 was the first 400.

I bought a ‘67 with 26k miles for $575.

...but that was in 1984

In '75 I bought a '70 R code mustang for 1,150. In 2019 I bought a '69 R code mustang for 5k.
Prices sure have gone up!

 

[Wheeler]

Car looks like a good project to me. Appears to be complete, no major body damage (at least on that side....). If rust is minimal and the car hasn't been butchered i'd say it may be worth it. Depends on how handy you are, as having a shop do EVERYTHING will probably put you over budget

Carpet was pulled back and there was no visible rust on the floor boards.

 

[rvrrun]

Carpet was pulled back and there was no visible rust on the floor boards.

Put it on a rack, they always look different up there.

 

[coolchange]

That's a 3 pedal car brake pedal. From what I can tell on my phone anyway.

 

[Wheeler]

Put it on a rack, they always look different up there.

Now that I can afford a Cadillac, I have no need for a Pontiac.

 

[Bigbore500r]

Carpet was pulled back and there was no visible rust on the floor boards.

What about behind the wheels at bottom of fenders (front and rear) ? Also around the rear window , trunk pan, etc

 

[GRADS]

Now that I can afford a Cadillac, I have no need for a Pontiac.

I'm guessing a lot of people won't get that.

 

[Wheeler]

I'm guessing a lot of people won't get that.

I would hope so. At some point in time we all need to grow up ...even if it's only just a little.

 

[Wheeler]

That's a 3 pedal car brake pedal. From what I can tell on my phone anyway.

Does this help?

 

[Wheeler]

What about behind the wheels at bottom of fenders (front and rear) ? Also around the rear window , trunk pan, etc

I have no interest in this car other than posting it just in case someone here might be interested.
If anyone needs more info., I did get the guys phone # and it can be seen at Pomona tomorrow.

 

[PlanB]

Looks like a 3 pedal to me. The console also looks like a manual. The auto GTO I was just checking out the other day has an auto, and the console does not have that wide opening.

 

[spectras only]

I would hope so. At some point in time we all need to grow up ...even if it's only just a little.

wheeler, if this GTO is a manual car [ if it has 3 pedals?] it is a better investment than a Caddy from the 60's unless you're looking at series 62's or 50's Biarritz models. Parts are not cheap for classic Caddies or Lincolns.
Your picture is chitty sorry. There's something behind the brake release that could be the clutch pedal, albeit looks too far into the firewall.Maybe it's collapsed.

Buddy had a 66 tripower manual GTO and it looked similar to this inside.

 

[PlanB]

wheeler, if this GTO is a manual car [ if it has 3 pedals?] it is a better investment than a Caddy from the 60's unless you're looking at series 62's or 50's Biarritz models. Parts are not cheap for classic Caddies or Lincolns.

I sold a series 61, 1949 Caddy with a newly rebuilt motor in very good condition a few years back. Best offer I got was 10K.

 

[Wheeler]

wheeler, if this GTO is a manual car [ if it has 3 pedals?] it is a better investment than a Caddy from the 60's unless you're looking at series 62's or 50's Biarritz models. Parts are not cheap for classic Caddies or Lincolns.
Your picture is chitty sorry. There's something behind the brake release that could be the clutch pedal, albeit looks too far into the firewall.Maybe it's collapsed.

A Cadillac is not in my future. I need to get a boat running before I buy any more projects.

 

[dribble]

They are tough to tell apart. If memory serves that should have a 389 and ‘67 was the first 400.

I bought a ‘67 with 26k miles for $575.

...but that was in 1984

You are correct. The valve covers and carb on that engine are 67-70, The code is on the front of the block right under the right cylinder head.

 

[PlanB]

This is what you can get for 56K...

https://jbaspeedshop.com/p-31185-1964-pontiac-gto.html

 

[spectras only]

I sold a series 61, 1949 Caddy with a newly rebuilt motor in very good condition a few years back. Best offer I got was 10K.

have you seen this series 62? Sold for 220K Friend has a 54 Eldo vert, isn't worth anywhere near.

 

[PlanB]

have you seen this one? Sold for 220K Friend has a 54 Eldo vert, isn't worth anywhere near.

Caddy's are weird. The car I sold was my dad's after he passed. There are huge differences in values between cars that to me appear to be fairly similar. I was getting offers from overseas, but domestically it was a tough sell. I needed it out of my garage.

 

[Wheeler]

Up side is that it looks like an original manual trans car with console. In 1966 the automatics used were Powerglides. One concern is the Rochester Quadrajet. Great carb but was not used until 1967. 1966 used a Rochester 4 jet. Could be later engine. From what I can see the body looks great. If I was in the market I would pay 10-12K for that car.

I stopped by on the way back from town.

It has a 400 in it with auto. He does have access to the 389 engine and trans. along with the manual parts to make it stock. These items will be sold separately. I did not ask about the intake set up.

I'll stop by next week to see how he did at Pomona.