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AG Becerra got the BIG property tax increase on the ballot. Your property taxes are on the launch pad for big increases.
California politicians are trying to repeal Prop 13 by slipping this measure under the radar. California's Attorney General, Xavier Becerra is putting together plans to raise property tax revenue by eliminating the only thing keeping some people's property tax from sky
rocketing; Prop 13.
Because they know it will be unpopular if presented as "Repeal Prop 13," Xavier Becerra has strategically relabeled it "Education and Local Government Funding." It's already on the 2020 ballot and like the gasoline tax, it will be worded in a way that misleads California voters. People renting may see it as a way to get something for
nothing, but the long term result will be higher rents to pay due to the increase in property taxes.


People are leaving the state in record numbers, and many here are barely hanging on, this could be something that changes the face of California forever.

California's surplus is how much? From the Orange County Register July 29, 2019:


If one includes reserves from special funds and adds them to the generally accepted figure of the surplus, the answer is stunning.
General fund reserves exceed $20 billion and special fund reserves exceed $16 billion. In short, California is sitting on over $36 billion. This does not even include the billions kept in reserve by local governments.

Vote No More Taxes.
Vote all career politicians out!
 

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AG Becerra got the BIG property tax increase on the ballot. Your property taxes are on the launch pad for big increases.
California politicians are trying to repeal Prop 13 by slipping this measure under the radar. California's Attorney General, Xavier Becerra is putting together plans to raise property tax revenue by eliminating the only thing keeping some people's property tax from sky
rocketing; Prop 13.
Because they know it will be unpopular if presented as "Repeal Prop 13," Xavier Becerra has strategically relabeled it "Education and Local Government Funding." It's already on the 2020 ballot and like the gasoline tax, it will be worded in a way that misleads California voters. People renting may see it as a way to get something for
nothing, but the long term result will be higher rents to pay due to the increase in property taxes.


People are leaving the state in record numbers, and many here are barely hanging on, this could be something that changes the face of California forever.

California's surplus is how much? From the Orange County Register July 29, 2019:


If one includes reserves from special funds and adds them to the generally accepted figure of the surplus, the answer is stunning.
General fund reserves exceed $20 billion and special fund reserves exceed $16 billion. In short, California is sitting on over $36 billion. This does not even include the billions kept in reserve by local governments.

Vote No More Taxes.
Vote all career politicians out!

they had people trying to gather signatures outside the local market to put it on the ballot and straight out lying that it wont raise anything.

read the things you are signing and dont trust anyone.

the dude staight out lied to me and was babbling about its gonna help schools,kids and butterflies and unicorns...
 

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Texas is closed to liberals. Let them stay in CA and deal with what they brought on themselves...….
 

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Texas is closed to liberals. Let them stay in CA and deal with what they brought on themselves...….
Hey 45th out of 50. Not bad....lol :D:D:D:D:D:D:p:p:p:p:p:p

Can't wait to see you spin this one...:)

Real-Estate Property Tax Rates by State


Rank
(1=Lowest)


Annual Taxes on $194K Home*

State Median Home Value

Annual Taxes on Home Priced at State Median Value

1 Hawaii 0.27% $525 $563,900 $1,529
2 Alabama 0.42% $817 $132,100 $558
3 Louisiana 0.52% $1,006 $152,900 $795
4 Colorado 0.55% $1,065 $286,100 $1,575
4 District of Columbia 0.55% $1,055 $537,400 $2,930
6 Delaware 0.56% $1,078 $238,600 $1,329
7 South Carolina 0.57% $1,108 $148,600 $851
8 West Virginia 0.59% $1,132 $111,600 $653
9 Wyoming 0.61% $1,186 $204,900 $1,256
10 Arkansas 0.63% $1,213 $118,500 $743
11 Utah 0.66% $1,280 $238,300 $1,576
12 Nevada 0.69% $1,331 $216,400 $1,489
13 Arizona 0.72% $1,400 $193,200 $1,398
14 Tennessee 0.74% $1,429 $151,700 $1,120
15 Idaho 0.75% $1,447 $176,800 $1,322
16 California 0.77% $1,490 $443,400 $3,414
17 New Mexico 0.78% $1,502 $163,900 $1,272
18 Virginia 0.80% $1,550 $255,800 $2,049
18 Mississippi 0.80% $1,556 $109,300 $879
20 Montana 0.84% $1,625 $209,100 $1,756
21 North Carolina 0.86% $1,656 $161,000 $1,378
21 Kentucky 0.86% $1,667 $130,000 $1,120
23 Indiana 0.87% $1,679 $130,200 $1,130
24 Oklahoma 0.90% $1,737 $125,800 $1,129
25 Georgia 0.91% $1,769 $158,400 $1,448
26 Florida 0.98% $1,897 $178,700 $1,752
27 Missouri 0.99% $1,910 $145,400 $1,435
28 North Dakota 1.01% $1,962 $174,100 $1,765
29 Washington 1.03% $1,996 $286,800 $2,958
30 Oregon 1.04% $2,006 $265,700 $2,755
31 Maryland 1.10% $2,126 $296,500 $3,257
32 Minnesota 1.15% $2,225 $199,700 $2,296
33 Alaska 1.19% $2,303 $261,900 $3,117
34 Massachusetts 1.22% $2,365 $352,600 $4,309
35 South Dakota 1.32% $2,550 $152,700 $2,012
36 Maine 1.35% $2,619 $179,900 $2,435
37 Kansas 1.40% $2,713 $139,200 $1,952
38 Iowa 1.53% $2,960 $137,200 $2,099
39 Ohio 1.57% $3,042 $135,100 $2,124
40 Pennsylvania 1.58% $3,054 $170,500 $2,691
41 Michigan 1.64% $3,179 $136,400 $2,241
42 Rhode Island 1.66% $3,206 $242,200 $4,013
43 New York 1.68% $3,246 $293,000 $4,915
44 Nebraska 1.80% $3,485 $142,400 $2,565

45 Texas 1.83% $3,544 $151,500 $2,775
45 Vermont 1.83% $3,544 $220,600 $4,040
47 Wisconsin 1.94% $3,756 $169,300 $3,286
48 Connecticut 2.07% $3,999 $270,100 $5,582
49 New Hampshire 2.20% $4,257 $244,900 $5,388
50 Illinois 2.31% $4,476 $179,700 $4,157
51 New Jersey 2.44% $4,725 $321,100 $7,840



 

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Liberals are all too willing to lie, cheat, steal, etc to push their socialist agenda. Too bad there are soooooo many stupid voters that will cast their votes for this manure
 

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Hey 45th out of 50. Not bad....lol :D:D:D:D:D:D:p:p:p:p:p:p

Can't wait to see you spin this one...:)

Real-Estate Property Tax Rates by State


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Annual Taxes on $194K Home*

State Median Home Value

Annual Taxes on Home Priced at State Median Value

1 Hawaii 0.27% $525 $563,900 $1,529
2 Alabama 0.42% $817 $132,100 $558
3 Louisiana 0.52% $1,006 $152,900 $795
4 Colorado 0.55% $1,065 $286,100 $1,575
4 District of Columbia 0.55% $1,055 $537,400 $2,930
6 Delaware 0.56% $1,078 $238,600 $1,329
7 South Carolina 0.57% $1,108 $148,600 $851
8 West Virginia 0.59% $1,132 $111,600 $653
9 Wyoming 0.61% $1,186 $204,900 $1,256
10 Arkansas 0.63% $1,213 $118,500 $743
11 Utah 0.66% $1,280 $238,300 $1,576
12 Nevada 0.69% $1,331 $216,400 $1,489
13 Arizona 0.72% $1,400 $193,200 $1,398
14 Tennessee 0.74% $1,429 $151,700 $1,120
15 Idaho 0.75% $1,447 $176,800 $1,322
16 California 0.77% $1,490 $443,400 $3,414
17 New Mexico 0.78% $1,502 $163,900 $1,272
18 Virginia 0.80% $1,550 $255,800 $2,049
18 Mississippi 0.80% $1,556 $109,300 $879
20 Montana 0.84% $1,625 $209,100 $1,756
21 North Carolina 0.86% $1,656 $161,000 $1,378
21 Kentucky 0.86% $1,667 $130,000 $1,120
23 Indiana 0.87% $1,679 $130,200 $1,130
24 Oklahoma 0.90% $1,737 $125,800 $1,129
25 Georgia 0.91% $1,769 $158,400 $1,448
26 Florida 0.98% $1,897 $178,700 $1,752
27 Missouri 0.99% $1,910 $145,400 $1,435
28 North Dakota 1.01% $1,962 $174,100 $1,765
29 Washington 1.03% $1,996 $286,800 $2,958
30 Oregon 1.04% $2,006 $265,700 $2,755
31 Maryland 1.10% $2,126 $296,500 $3,257
32 Minnesota 1.15% $2,225 $199,700 $2,296
33 Alaska 1.19% $2,303 $261,900 $3,117
34 Massachusetts 1.22% $2,365 $352,600 $4,309
35 South Dakota 1.32% $2,550 $152,700 $2,012
36 Maine 1.35% $2,619 $179,900 $2,435
37 Kansas 1.40% $2,713 $139,200 $1,952
38 Iowa 1.53% $2,960 $137,200 $2,099
39 Ohio 1.57% $3,042 $135,100 $2,124
40 Pennsylvania 1.58% $3,054 $170,500 $2,691
41 Michigan 1.64% $3,179 $136,400 $2,241
42 Rhode Island 1.66% $3,206 $242,200 $4,013
43 New York 1.68% $3,246 $293,000 $4,915
44 Nebraska 1.80% $3,485 $142,400 $2,565

45 Texas 1.83% $3,544 $151,500 $2,775
45 Vermont 1.83% $3,544 $220,600 $4,040
47 Wisconsin 1.94% $3,756 $169,300 $3,286
48 Connecticut 2.07% $3,999 $270,100 $5,582
49 New Hampshire 2.20% $4,257 $244,900 $5,388
50 Illinois 2.31% $4,476 $179,700 $4,157
51 New Jersey 2.44% $4,725 $321,100 $7,840




Show me a $194k home in CA that you’d live in.

I’ll gladly pay 1% more in property taxes, and have zero state income tax.

How’s that spin for ya?


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Plus Texas sales tax is significantly lower than California as well.
 

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Liberals are all too willing to lie, cheat, steal, etc to push their socialist agenda. Too bad there are soooooo many stupid voters that will cast their votes for this manure
You forgot murder, maim and destroy as well.
 

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Show me a $194k home in CA that you’d live in.

I’ll gladly pay 1% more in property taxes, and have zero state income tax.

How’s that spin for ya?


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I knew you or OT would spin it some how...lol

Ok. My house is valued at 850K in YL. What would the property tax be in TX? :)
 

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Hey 45th out of 50. Not bad....lol :D:D:D:D:D:D:p:p:p:p:p:p

Can't wait to see you spin this one...:)

Real-Estate Property Tax Rates by State


Rank
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Annual Taxes on $194K Home*

State Median Home Value

Annual Taxes on Home Priced at State Median Value

1 Hawaii 0.27% $525 $563,900 $1,529
2 Alabama 0.42% $817 $132,100 $558
3 Louisiana 0.52% $1,006 $152,900 $795
4 Colorado 0.55% $1,065 $286,100 $1,575
4 District of Columbia 0.55% $1,055 $537,400 $2,930
6 Delaware 0.56% $1,078 $238,600 $1,329
7 South Carolina 0.57% $1,108 $148,600 $851
8 West Virginia 0.59% $1,132 $111,600 $653
9 Wyoming 0.61% $1,186 $204,900 $1,256
10 Arkansas 0.63% $1,213 $118,500 $743
11 Utah 0.66% $1,280 $238,300 $1,576
12 Nevada 0.69% $1,331 $216,400 $1,489
13 Arizona 0.72% $1,400 $193,200 $1,398
14 Tennessee 0.74% $1,429 $151,700 $1,120
15 Idaho 0.75% $1,447 $176,800 $1,322
16 California 0.77% $1,490 $443,400 $3,414
17 New Mexico 0.78% $1,502 $163,900 $1,272
18 Virginia 0.80% $1,550 $255,800 $2,049
18 Mississippi 0.80% $1,556 $109,300 $879
20 Montana 0.84% $1,625 $209,100 $1,756
21 North Carolina 0.86% $1,656 $161,000 $1,378
21 Kentucky 0.86% $1,667 $130,000 $1,120
23 Indiana 0.87% $1,679 $130,200 $1,130
24 Oklahoma 0.90% $1,737 $125,800 $1,129
25 Georgia 0.91% $1,769 $158,400 $1,448
26 Florida 0.98% $1,897 $178,700 $1,752
27 Missouri 0.99% $1,910 $145,400 $1,435
28 North Dakota 1.01% $1,962 $174,100 $1,765
29 Washington 1.03% $1,996 $286,800 $2,958
30 Oregon 1.04% $2,006 $265,700 $2,755
31 Maryland 1.10% $2,126 $296,500 $3,257
32 Minnesota 1.15% $2,225 $199,700 $2,296
33 Alaska 1.19% $2,303 $261,900 $3,117
34 Massachusetts 1.22% $2,365 $352,600 $4,309
35 South Dakota 1.32% $2,550 $152,700 $2,012
36 Maine 1.35% $2,619 $179,900 $2,435
37 Kansas 1.40% $2,713 $139,200 $1,952
38 Iowa 1.53% $2,960 $137,200 $2,099
39 Ohio 1.57% $3,042 $135,100 $2,124
40 Pennsylvania 1.58% $3,054 $170,500 $2,691
41 Michigan 1.64% $3,179 $136,400 $2,241
42 Rhode Island 1.66% $3,206 $242,200 $4,013
43 New York 1.68% $3,246 $293,000 $4,915
44 Nebraska 1.80% $3,485 $142,400 $2,565

45 Texas 1.83% $3,544 $151,500 $2,775
45 Vermont 1.83% $3,544 $220,600 $4,040
47 Wisconsin 1.94% $3,756 $169,300 $3,286
48 Connecticut 2.07% $3,999 $270,100 $5,582
49 New Hampshire 2.20% $4,257 $244,900 $5,388
50 Illinois 2.31% $4,476 $179,700 $4,157
51 New Jersey 2.44% $4,725 $321,100 $7,840


We have other tax advantages that make the property tax number inaccurate as a comparative number to other states. No state sales taxes for one thing. Far lower annual vehicle registration costs. Plus we get far more for our property taxes than a state like CA. Our infrastructure is better maintained and that saves wear and tear on vehicles.

Just throwing up a graph doesn't tell the whole of the story, but a smart ass, errrr guy like you knows that.....I think:rolleyes:
 

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Yes but it taxes some services as well.
So what are you insinuating? Aggregate taxes in texas are higher than california?

Lay off the peyote....lol. anyone who can do basic math can figure it out and not distort the truth of the matter....
 

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Hey 45th out of 50. Not bad....lol :D:D:D:D:D:D:p:p:p:p:p:p

Can't wait to see you spin this one...:)

Real-Estate Property Tax Rates by State


Rank
(1=Lowest)


Annual Taxes on $194K Home*

State Median Home Value

Annual Taxes on Home Priced at State Median Value

1 Hawaii 0.27% $525 $563,900 $1,529
2 Alabama 0.42% $817 $132,100 $558
3 Louisiana 0.52% $1,006 $152,900 $795
4 Colorado 0.55% $1,065 $286,100 $1,575
4 District of Columbia 0.55% $1,055 $537,400 $2,930
6 Delaware 0.56% $1,078 $238,600 $1,329
7 South Carolina 0.57% $1,108 $148,600 $851
8 West Virginia 0.59% $1,132 $111,600 $653
9 Wyoming 0.61% $1,186 $204,900 $1,256
10 Arkansas 0.63% $1,213 $118,500 $743
11 Utah 0.66% $1,280 $238,300 $1,576
12 Nevada 0.69% $1,331 $216,400 $1,489
13 Arizona 0.72% $1,400 $193,200 $1,398
14 Tennessee 0.74% $1,429 $151,700 $1,120
15 Idaho 0.75% $1,447 $176,800 $1,322
16 California 0.77% $1,490 $443,400 $3,414
17 New Mexico 0.78% $1,502 $163,900 $1,272
18 Virginia 0.80% $1,550 $255,800 $2,049
18 Mississippi 0.80% $1,556 $109,300 $879
20 Montana 0.84% $1,625 $209,100 $1,756
21 North Carolina 0.86% $1,656 $161,000 $1,378
21 Kentucky 0.86% $1,667 $130,000 $1,120
23 Indiana 0.87% $1,679 $130,200 $1,130
24 Oklahoma 0.90% $1,737 $125,800 $1,129
25 Georgia 0.91% $1,769 $158,400 $1,448
26 Florida 0.98% $1,897 $178,700 $1,752
27 Missouri 0.99% $1,910 $145,400 $1,435
28 North Dakota 1.01% $1,962 $174,100 $1,765
29 Washington 1.03% $1,996 $286,800 $2,958
30 Oregon 1.04% $2,006 $265,700 $2,755
31 Maryland 1.10% $2,126 $296,500 $3,257
32 Minnesota 1.15% $2,225 $199,700 $2,296
33 Alaska 1.19% $2,303 $261,900 $3,117
34 Massachusetts 1.22% $2,365 $352,600 $4,309
35 South Dakota 1.32% $2,550 $152,700 $2,012
36 Maine 1.35% $2,619 $179,900 $2,435
37 Kansas 1.40% $2,713 $139,200 $1,952
38 Iowa 1.53% $2,960 $137,200 $2,099
39 Ohio 1.57% $3,042 $135,100 $2,124
40 Pennsylvania 1.58% $3,054 $170,500 $2,691
41 Michigan 1.64% $3,179 $136,400 $2,241
42 Rhode Island 1.66% $3,206 $242,200 $4,013
43 New York 1.68% $3,246 $293,000 $4,915
44 Nebraska 1.80% $3,485 $142,400 $2,565

45 Texas 1.83% $3,544 $151,500 $2,775
45 Vermont 1.83% $3,544 $220,600 $4,040
47 Wisconsin 1.94% $3,756 $169,300 $3,286
48 Connecticut 2.07% $3,999 $270,100 $5,582
49 New Hampshire 2.20% $4,257 $244,900 $5,388
50 Illinois 2.31% $4,476 $179,700 $4,157
51 New Jersey 2.44% $4,725 $321,100 $7,840



We have 51 states now? Trump's fault.
 

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We have other tax advantages that make the property tax number inaccurate as a comparative number to other states. No state sales taxes for one thing. Far lower annual vehicle registration costs. Plus we get far more for our property taxes than a state like CA. Our infrastructure is better maintained and that saves wear and tear on vehicles.

Just throwing up a graph doesn't tell the whole of the story, but a smart ass, errrr guy like you knows that.....I think:rolleyes:
I knew you could do it old timer. How's the head....lol :D:D

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I knew you or OT would spin it some how...lol

Ok. My house is valued at 850K in YL. What would the property tax be in TX? :)
Why does that matter if your home value is likely a 3rd in TX? Your home is overvalued making your taxes higher than they would be in another state. What CA folks find when they move is the far greater amount of house they get in TX for like money.

This is pretty much common sense stuff you're trying to argue. My property tax rate per the value of my home is higher, but with the home being valued less than CA, I'm actually paying less in taxes. Simple math.....
 

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I knew you or OT would spin it some how...lol

Ok. My house is valued at 850K in YL. What would the property tax be in TX? :)

I make a bazillion dollars in Texas how much would I pay in CA income tax?
That’s literally your argument and it makes no contextual sense.

How’s your shack compare to an $850k house in my neighborhood?

Fucking imbecile.

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Yes but it taxes some services as well.
And again here, I'd wager our service rates are lower as the cost of doing business is lower. You guys fail top factor in the added costs CA puts on businesses and property owners. The only true number is to calculate the cost of living and business costs.

What we do get taxed on is lower on most anything.

Another thing on property taxes is the graphs don't factor in Homestead Exemptions that lower the taxable valuation.
 

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I make a bazillion dollars in Texas how much would I pay in CA income tax?
That’s literally your argument and it makes no contextual sense.

How’s your shack compare to an $850k house in my neighborhood?

Fucking imbecile.

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Maybe you need to show him what the "cool Vette" registration costs in TX to get it in a perspective he can understand.....

Roughly basic TX registratiopn is aropund $52 plus $25 for annual inspectiopn. In CA I believe it would be ion the $500 range. These things add up and they don't want to talk about that.......
 

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I make a bazillion dollars in Texas how much would I pay in CA income tax?
That’s literally your argument and it makes no contextual sense.

How’s your shack compare to an $850k house in my neighborhood?

Fucking imbecile.

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I laugh at people like you that couldn't make it in CA $$$$ wise and moved some where else and always come back to bash their home state. :D:D:p:p
 

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Back to the OP, if you are a homeowner nothing changes. If you are a business owner, things might change. There are substantial exemptions.
 

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Back to the OP, if you are a homeowner nothing changes. If you are a business owner, things might change. There are substantial exemptions.

And if you’re a consumer I pass it on to you.

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You turds never tell the monkeys that do you?

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I laugh at people like you that couldn't make it in CA $$$$ wise and moved some where else and always come back to bash their home state. :D:D:p:p

Says the sprinkler attachment who gives money away to corrupt extortionists for a paycheck!!!

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And if you’re a consumer I pass it on to you.



You turds never tell the monkeys that do you?

LOL

You mean like all the Tariffs you support.........
 

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LOL

You mean like all the Tariffs you support.........

Hell yes, it’s a nation wide fucking of your slant eyed bastards that you bow to.

Pay up or buy somewhere else sheep...................... as the Chamber of Commerce screams!!!!! :) :) :)

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I laugh at people like you that couldn't make it in CA $$$$ wise and moved some where else and always come back to bash their home state. :D:D:p:p

Wow. Someone sounds angry....must be getting twitchy with respect to so many high taxpayers fleeing your socialist utopia.
 

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I laugh at people like you that couldn't make it in CA $$$$ wise and moved some where else and always come back to bash their home state. :D:D:p:p

Keeping it classy I see.

And hes laughing all the way to the bank as we continue to pay income tax, higher car registration taxes, high fuel taxes, higher utility prices, higher food prices, and on and on.
 
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I laugh at people like you that couldn't make it in CA $$$$ wise and moved some where else and always come back to bash their home state. :D:D:p:p

If argument and debate were unionized, you’d barely be an apprentice.

You’re a one-trick pony.

Here’s the deal.
CA is an expensive state to live in.
That’s no secret.

But anytime it gets mentioned, your reply is “but your property taxes are TWICE what we pay”.

Meanwhile, half the taxes on a house that costs twice as much means the out of pocket is the same. So much for common core...

You do you, bu.

But you aren’t going to convince anyone that CA is a low-tax utopia.


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Keeping it classy I see.

And hes laughing all the way to the bank as we continue to pay income tax, higher car registration taxes, high fuel taxes, higher utility prices, higher food prices, and on and on.

It’s funny...we lived 5 houses from the sand in Belmont Shore, for a decade.

Lots of folks here are amazed that we would want to leave that.

Then I tell them about the homelessness, panhandling and crime that we had to put up with...there ls a lot of sour that went with the sweet.


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It’s funny...we lived 5 houses from the sand in Belmont Shire, for a decade.

Lots of folks here are amazed that we would want to leave that.

Then I tell them about the homelessness, panhandling and crime that we had to put up with...there ls a lot of sour that went with the sweet.


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People go on and on about how much property taxes are in Texas.... if you go to Texas and buy a mansion that costs the same as your CA house, yea it is gonna be an expensive property tax bill. You'll still likely be ahead after paying no income taxes.

If you buy a house that is similar in size to what you have in CA.. OMG, it is way cheaper to live there. Unpossible!
 

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People go on and on about how much property taxes are in Texas.... if you go to Texas and buy a mansion that costs the same as your CA house, yea it is gonna be an expensive property tax bill. You'll still likely be ahead after paying no income taxes.

If you buy a house that is similar in size to what you have in CA.. OMG, it is way cheaper to live there. Unpossible!

So what it's cheaper, other than that, I can't find one thing attractive or inviting about the place --- WHY ? The lakes aren't that great, compared to Havasu, or Mohave for beauty and nice water. There's no offroading unless you're tight with some rancher. WTF is there to do there other than brag about Texas and Eat ? :p
 

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So what it's cheaper, other than that, I can't find one thing attractive or inviting about the place --- WHY ? The lakes aren't that great, compared to Havasu, or Mohave for beauty and nice water. There's no offroading unless you're tight with some rancher. WTF is there to do there other than brag about Texas and Eat ? :p
What lakes have you been on? Plenty that are really big and nice. Plus there's the GOM.....
 

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What lakes have you been on? Plenty that are really big and nice. Plus there's the GOM.....

Haven't been on any TX lakes, in fact my entire Texas experience is limited to countless hours on the internet looking at real estate. Have a couple of close friends who in the past year or two have located to the "Hill Country" area, Kerrville (Game preserve housing development) to be more specific. Monthly I get real estate updates, to say they're trying to lure us there is an understatement. :D

One reality I'm sure you're aware of, is how much motivation and energy is required to sell your castle, pull up stakes and relocate your aging ass .
The fuel for that motivation stemming from two key factors (For us anyway):
# 1. Hating where you are (The life bubble you've created and exist in) # 2. Loving where you're going (The new life bubble as you imagine it will be)
As far as # 1, well we're spoiled as fuck. California might have some seriously fucked up issues, but our world within it, is pretty damned awesome.

But being aware how easy familiar comfort and security can become your self-created prison, that also becomes a 3rd motivational factor.
So in truth, it's factor # 3 that fuels my quest for one more big life-change. What scares me is, the realization I've only got enough remaining human-years and energy (Hope so anyway) to get it right the first time. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

So in short, to date, despite countless hours perusing RE listings and picture gallery's, I can't bring myself to "Feel" living in Texas. A lake house gets me close, but the nice ones on nice lakes are not inexpensive. :rolleyes: Then I see pics of the bad years when the docks are sitting in mud --- YIKES :(:(

So far Florida, like Lucky Strike's place and another members --- Damn, sweet, now I can get some wood over that shit ---- right up until I start thinking of my wife, the bugs, the humidity and grid-locked in traffic while fleeing from an approaching hurricane :eek::eek::eek:

BUT, that voice in my head just keeps screaming ---- " Tick-Tock Muth-fucka, you just going to sit there till ya die or what ? " :D:D
 

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Haven't been on any TX lakes, in fact my entire Texas experience is limited to countless hours on the internet looking at real estate. Have a couple of close friends who in the past year or two have located to the "Hill Country" area, Kerrville (Game preserve housing development) to be more specific. Monthly I get real estate updates, to say they're trying to lure us there is an understatement. :D

One reality I'm sure you're aware of, is how much motivation and energy is required to sell your castle, pull up stakes and relocate your aging ass .
The fuel for that motivation stemming from two key factors (For us anyway):
# 1. Hating where you are (The life bubble you've created and exist in) # 2. Loving where you're going (The new life bubble as you imagine it will be)
As far as # 1, well we're spoiled as fuck. California might have some seriously fucked up issues, but our world within it, is pretty damned awesome.

But being aware how easy familiar comfort and security can become your self-created prison, that also becomes a 3rd motivational factor.
So in truth, it's factor # 3 that fuels my quest for one more big life-change. What scares me is, the realization I've only got enough remaining human-years and energy (Hope so anyway) to get it right the first time. :eek::eek::eek::eek:

So in short, to date, despite countless hours perusing RE listings and picture gallery's, I can't bring myself to "Feel" living in Texas. A lake house gets me close, but the nice ones on nice lakes are not inexpensive. :rolleyes: Then I see pics of the bad years when the docks are sitting in mud --- YIKES :(:(

So far Florida, like Lucky Strike's place and another members --- Damn, sweet, now I can get some wood over that shit ---- right up until I start thinking of my wife, the bugs, the humidity and grid-locked in traffic while fleeing from an approaching hurricane :eek::eek::eek:

BUT, that voice in my head just keeps screaming ---- " Tick-Tock Muth-fucka, you just going to sit there till ya die or what ? " :D:D
I'd suggest a road trip to see the Hill Country lakes (Canyon, Travis, Buchanan, etc), the lakes along the Brazos (Possum Kingdom, Whitney) and the east/northeast lakes like Livingston and Sam Rayburn and Toledo Bend). Great variety and many have terrific deals on properties.

That FL GC area in the southwest is intriguiong and having lived there years ago, I can attest to it being wonderland. But as mentioned, there are issues in paradise.;)
 
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