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Alan.. did ur girlfriend leave you on the beach for a guy in a flatty back in the '70s or something? It's well known you have a beef with the flat bottoms, you always single them out. That is fine, your issues (glad you are off the river)... and yes unsanctioned river racing events are unsafe. You don't see them canceling Pomona hotrod meets because an idiot old man with no sense decided to make a pass in his Alky Willys and put it into a wall leaving!

Alllllthoughhhh.. these accidents this past weekend had NOTHING to do with the v-drive deal.. which was a bad idea given the crowds. 98% of all accidents on the strip have ZERO association to hotrod flat bottoms. Shit... desert storm weekend has seen more incidents and fatalities than any V-drive show on the strip.... AND desert storm is the biggest event that comes to Havasu and is rallied behind by the city. There is insanely more neglect in boat operation during any weekend during the summer by your average joe boater, jetski operator, ect. I see it weekend after weekend.

How about the 25+ deep draft boats dragging ass all over the strip trying to get someone to surf their wave 4 ft off their swim step?? That's a smart deal... as they keep falling.... and making U-turns over and over sending 5ft deep roller in every direction. They are beating the shit out of boats moored.. docks.... property... sea walls.. eating up beaches.. sinking boats, but yet this is fine??? Are you maybe biased because you surfed 40 years ago? If you don't see this as an issue, you must have slipped in the shower in your old age.



A couple of points, I've noticed in this thread.

First, the Blue Water No Wake Zone: When the Tribes proposed the Blue Water Resort/Casino/Marina, a requirement of the Corps of Engineers permit was a full environmental impact survey. All concerned agencies, Army Corps, US Fish and Wildlife, US Coast Guard, AZ Game and Fish, CA Fish and Game, CRIT Fish and Game, CRIT EPA and a slew of others spent over a year going over the entire area. What was discovered, was that several endangered species of birds and native fish called the Moovalya Marsh, across from the Resort, their home. Primarily the Yuma Clapper Rail, an endangered species of bird, built it's nests on the water surface, back in the marsh. Excessive disturbance by boat wakes causes the birds to abandon their nests, and any eggs or young that might be present. (more on this below*)

It was also found that certain endangered native fish (Colorado River squawfish, bonytailed chub, humpback chub, etc.) lays their eggs in and around the reeds in the Marsh. Again, excessive wakes dislodges the eggs, and harms the protection from predators that the reeds provide.

Everyone involved in the process agreed that a "No Wake" zone would be necessary to protect those species, and it was put in place. The No Wake zone was ordered regardless of whether the Casino/Marina was approved, disapproved or completed. A routine survey of the area was due to be completed a few years after this was done, and the same conclusion would have resulted in the No Wake Zone. The Casino only moved it up a couple of years.

What about the races? You ask. There is a protocol that must be followed whenever races are approved for the area. Racers must stay as far to the Arizona side as possible, there must be at least a one weekend lull between events, and strict enforcement of the zone must be conducted at all other times. This will minimize the disturbance in the Marsh and assist in maintaining, and hopefully increasing, the species population.

The No Wake Zone at Blue Water has nothing to do with boat safety or the Casino. It's strictly for species management.

Speaking of permits, this brings me to my 2nd point. There is a common denominator between the 3 boat wrecks this past weekend and the deadliest collision on the Parker Strip, EVER. In both instances, there were these "word-of-mouth", under the radar, "Boat floats", "Boat shows", "Show and shine" or whatever you dick swingers want to call it. You don't want to do it the RIGHT way. That is, getting permits, sanction, insurance, safety boats, divers, medics, course closures, rules, etc. You just invite every top fuel wannabe to come out here and wave your cranks around to see who can be the loudest, fastest, most obnoxious, (oh yeah, and most DANGEROUS) boat on the River.

Wow. They hit a wake. A PWC got in my way. Who fucking expects a wake or a PWC on the Parker Strip on a 100 degree weekend. Umm. Like EVERYONE. All these "experienced" drivers losing control, running into docks, running over other boats. Wow. It must have been a steering failure. That's the excuse. Yeah right. I know of at least 6 collisions where 6 boats "lost steering" in that exact spot, ending up with the same conclusion. Either over another boat, on the dock or T-bone into the sea wall. Funny it doesn't happen anywhere else. Just there. But I digress.

If you idiots want to show off your loud, fast boats, join a circuit. Enter a race. Put down the beer. Get a capsule, put on a helmet and a Lifeline and do it the right fucking way. Too many people are getting seriously injured, crippled, and killed because you're too stupid, inconsiderate or broke to do it right. There's a reason auto drag races aren't done up and down the street in front of your house. There's a reason there are special speedways for racing and F1-Indy-NASCAR isn't happening on Main Street, USA with everyone and their granny cruising down to Walmart in their Prius.

It's not the wake boats. It's not the PWCs. It's YOU!

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Some of you guys are just wierd...

I didn't get that @BoatCop was complaining about ANY type of boat. He is complaining about the people IN the boats!

Some of you guys need to take a reading comprehension course.

Do it right, is all he is saying.

Trying to haul ass on a busy weekend isn't the best idea.

Someone put on a non sanctioned event and all the Ricky Racers came out to see it, and then pretend they were racers themselves! Nothing new here. Happens all the damm time. 🙄

RD is right too. People are going nuts cause of all the lock down shit. They want to go out and play, and play HARD! The river has Always been a place to do that.

It's the perfect storm right now. Hopefully it will end soon.

Be safe. Whatever you do.
 

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Rivermobster.. he's referencing 3 kids getting ran over because there was a "common denominator" of a v-drive get together that weekend as well. Bullshit. How bout 99% of the other fatalities on the strip that have absolutely no "common denominator" to the small hotrod boats he has issues with. A dumb ass is a dumb ass.. and trust me... there is plenty out right now as always, regardless of the weekend.
 

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At the end of the day the three accidents happened, from what.. ?? We can all speculate but I’d have to imagine the overwhelming crowds coming to the river to Escape the lock downs from
Covid 19.
Everyone is saying the crowds / the water conditions / boat traffic etc is busier than anyone has ever seen it.

I expect this next weekend is going to be crazy.. and it’s going to keep that way until things return to normal in neighboring states
You're being awfully diplomatic when saying "neighboring states". But we all know you are the King of diplomacy.
 

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A couple of points, I've noticed in this thread.

First, the Blue Water No Wake Zone: When the Tribes proposed the Blue Water Resort/Casino/Marina, a requirement of the Corps of Engineers permit was a full environmental impact survey. All concerned agencies, Army Corps, US Fish and Wildlife, US Coast Guard, AZ Game and Fish, CA Fish and Game, CRIT Fish and Game, CRIT EPA and a slew of others spent over a year going over the entire area. What was discovered, was that several endangered species of birds and native fish called the Moovalya Marsh, across from the Resort, their home. Primarily the Yuma Clapper Rail, an endangered species of bird, built it's nests on the water surface, back in the marsh. Excessive disturbance by boat wakes causes the birds to abandon their nests, and any eggs or young that might be present. (more on this below*)

It was also found that certain endangered native fish (Colorado River squawfish, bonytailed chub, humpback chub, etc.) lays their eggs in and around the reeds in the Marsh. Again, excessive wakes dislodges the eggs, and harms the protection from predators that the reeds provide.

Everyone involved in the process agreed that a "No Wake" zone would be necessary to protect those species, and it was put in place. The No Wake zone was ordered regardless of whether the Casino/Marina was approved, disapproved or completed. A routine survey of the area was due to be completed a few years after this was done, and the same conclusion would have resulted in the No Wake Zone. The Casino only moved it up a couple of years.

What about the races? You ask. There is a protocol that must be followed whenever races are approved for the area. Racers must stay as far to the Arizona side as possible, there must be at least a one weekend lull between events, and strict enforcement of the zone must be conducted at all other times. This will minimize the disturbance in the Marsh and assist in maintaining, and hopefully increasing, the species population.

The No Wake Zone at Blue Water has nothing to do with boat safety or the Casino. It's strictly for species management.

Speaking of permits, this brings me to my 2nd point. There is a common denominator between the 3 boat wrecks this past weekend and the deadliest collision on the Parker Strip, EVER. In both instances, there were these "word-of-mouth", under the radar, "Boat floats", "Boat shows", "Show and shine" or whatever you dick swingers want to call it. You don't want to do it the RIGHT way. That is, getting permits, sanction, insurance, safety boats, divers, medics, course closures, rules, etc. You just invite every top fuel wannabe to come out here and wave your cranks around to see who can be the loudest, fastest, most obnoxious, (oh yeah, and most DANGEROUS) boat on the River.

Wow. They hit a wake. A PWC got in my way. Who fucking expects a wake or a PWC on the Parker Strip on a 100 degree weekend. Umm. Like EVERYONE. All these "experienced" drivers losing control, running into docks, running over other boats. Wow. It must have been a steering failure. That's the excuse. Yeah right. I know of at least 6 collisions where 6 boats "lost steering" in that exact spot, ending up with the same conclusion. Either over another boat, on the dock or T-bone into the sea wall. Funny it doesn't happen anywhere else. Just there. But I digress.

If you idiots want to show off your loud, fast boats, join a circuit. Enter a race. Put down the beer. Get a capsule, put on a helmet and a Lifeline and do it the right fucking way. Too many people are getting seriously injured, crippled, and killed because you're too stupid, inconsiderate or broke to do it right. There's a reason auto drag races aren't done up and down the street in front of your house. There's a reason there are special speedways for racing and F1-Indy-NASCAR isn't happening on Main Street, USA with everyone and their granny cruising down to Walmart in their Prius.

It's not the wake boats. It's not the PWCs. It's YOU!

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Sorry but the ballast tanks and wake shapers on the 2019/2020 Wakesetters etc... they are insane, something has to be done about them running on the river. I live on The Strip and it is crazy to watch these rollers and their after affects.


Since you live on the strip (I'm jealous by the way! ) do you also have issues with the large offshore cats or deep V's? Although I wasn't out there this weeked I have heard there were 28 ft DCB's and deep v offshore boats all over the river. Also I cant count how many times I was passed by a huge boat in parker. Those boats have given me just as much issues with wakes as some wakeboard boats.

If your going to want to ban the wakeboard boats why not those also? Why not anything above 22ft?Why not anything with more that 400hp? If you start the regulations on what type of boats are allowed on the water you are going to cripple the small towns economy. Which is what Parker survives on. JMO
 

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Since you live on the strip (I'm jealous by the way! ) do you also have issues with the large offshore cats or deep V's? Although I wasn't out there this weeked I have heard there were 28 ft DCB's and deep v offshore boats all over the river. Also I cant count how many times I was passed by a huge boat in parker. Those boats have given me just as much issues with wakes as some wakeboard boats.

If your going to want to ban the wakeboard boats why not those also? Why not anything above 22ft?Why not anything with more that 400hp? If you start the regulations on what type of boats are allowed on the water you are going to cripple the small towns economy. Which is what Parker survives on. JMO


SO? It's all about the $'s
 

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Rivermobster.. he's referencing 3 kids getting ran over because there was a "common denominator" of a v-drive get together that weekend as well. Bullshit. How bout 99% of the other fatalities on the strip that have absolutely no "common denominator" to the small hotrod boats he has issues with. A dumb ass is a dumb ass.. and trust me... there is plenty out right now as always, regardless of the weekend.

He's referring all kinds of things. Don't take one thing out of context. Try and see the big picture.

You are so right. I don't hardly ever go to the river in the summer. Fuck that. This summer will be the worst!

Still waiting for a valid email address...
 

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How long is the no wake zone on the Delta thats up by the Delta Queen? Near downtown Sacramento

I don't know if someone answered your question, but the No Wake near the Delta King is just between the two bridges. Maybe a quarter mile long.
 

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Rivermobster.. he's referencing 3 kids getting ran over because there was a "common denominator" of a v-drive get together that weekend as well. Bullshit. How bout 99% of the other fatalities on the strip that have absolutely no "common denominator" to the small hotrod boats he has issues with. A dumb ass is a dumb ass.. and trust me... there is plenty out right now as always, regardless of the weekend.

In the ten years I was at Reflections you rarely took your boat out. This doesn’t apply to you.
Nothing is going to change for guys like you that boat responsibly and run when it’s low traffic, glass water.
You didn’t pull bodies out of the water, Alan did, give the man some leeway on his aggravation

Not enough V drives left to label as a problem ever anyways. Any changes will be from bad boating accidents , no matter the boat type.
Same as traffic control on roadways.
Plain and simple
 

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All I know is you really haven’t lived until you went 3-4 wide in both directions through devils elbow. With everyone jockeying for 1st.

This corner seems like it just had a bad weekend. Stay in control for the conditions and this won’t happen.


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No my neighbor that worked for Buckskin did many times, and I understand, we also had a death on our beach from a prop strike. Which you know of, and I have seen my share of accidents, and trama.

I am pointing out Alans' biased attitude for a certain performance boat that really has no relevance towards what we are talking about here. It comes down to negligence, not a so-called "dick swinging contest" get together as he puts it.

Even if I only run my flatty a few times a year... I would like to be able to do so w/out hassle.


In the ten years I was at Reflections you rarely took your boat out. This doesn’t apply to you.
Nothing is going to change for guys like you that boat responsibly and run when it’s low traffic, glass water.
You didn’t pull bodies out of the water, Alan did, give the man some leeway on his aggravation

Not enough V drives left to label as a problem ever anyways. Any changes will be from bad boating accidents , no matter the boat type.
Same as traffic control on roadways.
Plain and simple
 

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There is a spot on the Delta near Discovery Bay, that isn't a No Wake zone, but it is a No Watersports Zone. Meaning no skiing, tubing, wakeboarding, or wake surfing. It works well for that spot.
 

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I have read this entire thread and have seen all kinds of speculation as to the cause of these three serious incidents. Sounds like one guy was arrested for BUI, another may have been BUI (per Dave's post) but was seriously injured (hope he is doing well) and the third incident there was no alcohol involved.

Hypothetically, IF it turns out that two out of three incidents involved alcohol, enough to make a criminal case, the primary cause of those two accidents will likely be BUI alcohol with any other factors being associated causes.

If alcohol was involved in two out of three serious incidents in the same place, how do you deal with that from LEO public safety perspective? I don't think a No Wake Zone is the answer. Hoping that folks won't drink to excess and boat doesn't work. Depending on the available LEO resources this summer, I would bet that you can count on stepped up enforcement especially in that area; Safety inspections, citations and maybe an OUI checkpoint or two. These tools will be used to educate and hopefully change some folks behavior.

Most folks will always do the right thing when boating on the river. Unfortunately some good folks will get caught up in this extra enforcement effort.
 

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No my neighbor that worked for Buckskin did many times, and I understand, we also had a death on our beach from a prop strike. Which you know of, and I have seen my share of accidents, and trama.

I am pointing out Alans' biased attitude for a certain performance boat that really has no relevance towards what we are talking about here. It comes down to negligence, not a so-called "dick swinging contest" get together as he puts it.

Even if I only run my flatty a few times a year... I would like to be able to do so w/out hassle.
1. No one will hassle you during the time you boat
2. He has a right to his opinion as do you

Your analogy of a car doing doing a burn out vs a boat driving too fast conditions is off though.
Way more variables and less control to stop on the water vs land.
Parker Strip is a washing machine with summer weekend boat traffic.
I’m glad I’m on the lake to have options to get away from crowds.
As I said any restrictions will be from wrecks, however they occurred. That’s the way it works.
Alan never blasted his opinion while working , just a change and I like it.
He doesn’t like vee drives, won’t change your boating one bit. You are responsible. It’s up to those with a stake in the Strip to either fight change or put pressure on whomever is screwing up and crashing out there.
 

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If you want your voice heard, probably the best starting point is District 2 La Paz County Supervisor. This accident occurred in his area, and he is a boater, and might understand every one's concerns.

Duce Minor, Supervisor District 2
Phone: 928-669-6115
e-mail : [email protected]
 

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Since you live on the strip (I'm jealous by the way! ) do you also have issues with the large offshore cats or deep V's? Although I wasn't out there this weeked I have heard there were 28 ft DCB's and deep v offshore boats all over the river. Also I cant count how many times I was passed by a huge boat in parker. Those boats have given me just as much issues with wakes as some wakeboard boats.

If your going to want to ban the wakeboard boats why not those also? Why not anything above 22ft?Why not anything with more that 400hp? If you start the regulations on what type of boats are allowed on the water you are going to cripple the small towns economy. Which is what Parker survives on. JMO
"What Parker survives on". Guess what, I was on the river at Parker in 1955, not born yet, but Parker was there then and Parker will be there long after RollBar boats are outlawed there. You remind me of all the SoCal folks that say Havasu would dry-up and blow away in the wind if they outlawed FAST big boats on Havasu. Guess what, I used this Lake in the 70's when an Eliminator 19' mini daycruiser V-drive was considered a "batlleship", now it's considered a rowboat on the lake.
My point is Parker and Havasu aren't going anywhere if SoCal falls into the Pacific Ocean!! :D I just look at it as I'll have ocean view property instead of view of lake property.
 

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"What Parker survives on". Guess what, I was on the river at Parker in 1955, not born yet, but Parker was there then and Parker will be there long after RollBar boats are outlawed there. You remind me of all the SoCal folks that say Havasu would dry-up and blow away in the wind if they outlawed FAST big boats on Havasu. Guess what, I used this Lake in the 70's when an Eliminator 19' mini daycruiser V-drive was considered a "batlleship", now it's considered a rowboat on the lake.
My point is Parker and Havasu aren't going anywhere if SoCal falls into the Pacific Ocean!! :D I just look at it as I'll have ocean view property instead of view of lake property.


Not saying Parker and Havazoo would go away completely but there would be allot of businesses closing and allot of job loss. Something I think allot of residents would not prefer. Bottom line is you live in a vacation community that is supported in allot of ways by tourism. But times have changed and boats have changed. Not saying you need to change but everything around you is.
 

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Let's get real here. 3 accidents are probably because of flat not paying attention on a very busy weekend. People seem to think boating is like driving a car. Nope, not at all as far as I'm concerned, shit seems to happen much quicker and the boats obviously do not react the same. Add a few beers and stereo's and loud music and a few to many people in a boat. Then the river lice darting back and forth and across the river in front of you. FUCKING amazing that you dont have three boats wrecking every darn weekend.
(But we sure the hell dont need any government intervention) that will be the beginning of the end. Keep them OUT!
 

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Not saying Parker and Havazoo would go away completely but there would be allot of businesses closing and allot of job loss. Something I think allot of residents would not prefer. Bottom line is you live in a vacation community that is supported in allot of ways by tourism. But times have changed and boats have changed. Not saying you need to change but everything around you is.
Boy did I see that coming. "Things have changed" They've been fucking changing forever. "The kids have it harder these days", the fuck they do. You consider getting shot by a BB gun, get hit in the head with a hard ass unripened orange or riding your bike and crashing on the asphalt easier than sitting on a sofa playing a fricking video game, harder.
You MUST be a generation or two behind me saying things have changed and getting harder. Everything is handed to the newer generations without the knowledge to know how to use it in the proper way. Just as my thread earlier about coves/beach etiquette, the younger folks have NO clue except ME,ME,ME.

Sorry for blasting on you but but people get awful tired of SoCal folks think their the only people that have a clue. Some need to get out of that bubble they live in and give other folks some credit.
 

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This is why the libtards win Every time...

Here we sit (as boaters) doing Exactly what Alan pointed out...

Having a dick swinging party! Don't you just hate it when someone else is right besides you? LoL

Raise your hand if you're composing an Intelligent letter, if not, STFU and get busy!!

We all need to be on the same side here.
 

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Boy did I see that coming. "Things have changed" They've been fucking changing forever. "The kids have it harder these days", the fuck they do. You consider getting shot by a BB gun, get hit in the head with a hard ass unripened orange or riding your bike and crashing on the asphalt easier than sitting on a sofa playing a fricking video game, harder.
You MUST be a generation or two behind me saying things have changed and getting harder. Everything is handed to the newer generations without the knowledge to know how to use it in the proper way. Just as my thread earlier about coves/beach etiquette, the younger folks have NO clue except ME,ME,ME.

Sorry for blasting on you but but people get awful tired of SoCal folks think their the only people that have a clue. Some need to get out of that bubble they live in and give other folks some credit.


I don't see anywhere in my post that I mentioned things are "getting harder" or that "kids have it easy these days". Not sure where you are getting that from. Although I do agree with you on what you are saying.

I said things have changed, boats have changed. You kind of went WAY off topic of what I was talking about.

I was just saying in short, that if you limit one type of boat then you open it up to all kinds of boat limitations. Which in turn can be very bad for a community that relies on the tourism they market to.

Also, I'm 39 years old, not sure how old you are but I don't play video games, didn't have anything handed to me and was raised by a single mother and times were tough when I was younger.

I think you are missing that every older generation always says what you are saying. And the younger generation always says, they are just old and grumpy. LOL

And no need to apologize for blasting on me, we are just having an honest conversation. ✌
 

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Our family was out Saturday and I pulled the boat out of the water about 1pm for the remainder of the weekend. I can say that there were a ton of folks not paying attention, or maybe not understanding basic rules of the waterway, or just flat out don't care. Not sure which is worse but, it was enough for me to want to get away from it. I can recall at least 3-4 times that I look over and told my wife," I cant believe those people are pulling their kids right here". There are a ton of very interesting points on this thread, and I believe there is at least a shred of truth in everyone's point of view. Its our ability to find a common ground that will help us all in the end. The one thing that concerns me greatly is the increased number of rentals on the water. I understand that Pirates Den is now renting too. I am not saying everyone renting is a moron, but the vast majority probably should not be boating on days like last Saturday. I believe that the "new normal" is what last weekend was like. At least until California decides to open back up.
 

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People aren't getting it. I don't give a fuck if you drive a flattie, a wake boat, a cat, a day cruiser, a pontoon, a PWC, or anything else. If you can't do it LEGALLY and SAFELY, then stay the fuck home. You all are proving my point. YOU feel that YOU have the right to do anything YOU want, and anyone else who gets in YOUR way should stay on the beach.

I've been around boats and boat races my whole life. From LB Marine Stadium, the Parker 9/7 hour Enduros. NJBA Races at BW, etc. I will also GUARANTEE that I have more hours behind the helm on the Parker Strip than ANYONE. All those times you pulled off because it was too crazy or crowded? I HAD to be out there. Hell, I probably put more hours in one year than most of you have or will have in your entire life. And guess what. I've NEVER had a collision. Why? because I was responsible, alert, and IN CONTROL. Whether the boat had a blue light, or was one of my own boats, I never so much as scratched another piece of gelcoat.

I don't have anything against flatties or any other kind of boat. Except that THEY are the only ones who try to pull off these unlicensed events. They are also the ones that are usually unregistered, illegal exhaust, and flaunt it whenever and wherever they can. And while the boats involved in this weekend's wrecks may have not been actively involved in the illegal event, it contributed to it by putting a whole lot more boats in an already dangerous section of River.

And whoever it was that made the comment about kids on docks, (I'm not going to bother to go back and find out who) proved my point. YOU want to stop people from enjoying THEIR property just because YOU just might come flying by and run over their dock, like it's your right to do so. How about you don't let your kids play hopscotch in your driveway, because I might just want to come driving by at 100 MPH and may lose control and run them over. After all, driveways are to park your car.

Not all PWC operators are idiots. Not all Wakeboat operators are inconsiderate. Not all pontoon boat operators are 70 years old. Not all Flat operators are jerks. Not all DCB owners are stuck-up snobs (well, I'll have to think about that one).

One thing is for sure in this thread. We all found out who the dick swingers are.
 

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People aren't getting it. I don't give a fuck if you drive a flattie, a wake boat, a cat, a day cruiser, a pontoon, a PWC, or anything else. If you can't do it LEGALLY and SAFELY, then stay the fuck home. You all are proving my point. YOU feel that YOU have the right to do anything YOU want, and anyone else who gets in YOUR way should stay on the beach.

I've been around boats and boat races my whole life. From LB Marine Stadium, the Parker 9/7 hour Enduros. NJBA Races at BW, etc. I will also GUARANTEE that I have more hours behind the helm on the Parker Strip than ANYONE. All those times you pulled off because it was too crazy or crowded? I HAD to be out there. Hell, I probably put more hours in one year than most of you have or will have in your entire life. And guess what. I've NEVER had a collision. Why? because I was responsible, alert, and IN CONTROL. Whether the boat had a blue light, or was one of my own boats, I never so much as scratched another piece of gelcoat.

I don't have anything against flatties or any other kind of boat. Except that THEY are the only ones who try to pull off these unlicensed events. They are also the ones that are usually unregistered, illegal exhaust, and flaunt it whenever and wherever they can. And while the boats involved in this weekend's wrecks may have not been actively involved in the illegal event, it contributed to it by putting a whole lot more boats in an already dangerous section of River.

And whoever it was that made the comment about kids on docks, (I'm not going to bother to go back and find out who) proved my point. YOU want to stop people from enjoying THEIR property just because YOU just might come flying by and run over their dock, like it's your right to do so. How about you don't let your kids play hopscotch in your driveway, because I might just want to come driving by at 100 MPH and may lose control and run them over. After all, driveways are to park your car.

Not all PWC operators are idiots. Not all Wakeboat operators are inconsiderate. Not all pontoon boat operators are 70 years old. Not all Flat operators are jerks. Not all DCB owners are stuck-up snobs (well, I'll have to think about that one).

One thing is for sure in this thread. We all found out who the dick swingers are.

Well, my "sidewalk" is not flowing 8 MPH with the possibility of a child falling off and drowning....or getting sucked between a boat and the dock etc.

I said nothing about the "100 mph passes" or any of that other crap you put in your "reply". BTW it's not THEIR property, it's the Bar's. If you are referencing Private Docks, that is not what I was mentioning.

I am all for Darwin Awards. You do you dude.
 

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People aren't getting it. I don't give a fuck if you drive a flattie, a wake boat, a cat, a day cruiser, a pontoon, a PWC, or anything else. If you can't do it LEGALLY and SAFELY, then stay the fuck home. You all are proving my point. YOU feel that YOU have the right to do anything YOU want, and anyone else who gets in YOUR way should stay on the beach.

I've been around boats and boat races my whole life. From LB Marine Stadium, the Parker 9/7 hour Enduros. NJBA Races at BW, etc. I will also GUARANTEE that I have more hours behind the helm on the Parker Strip than ANYONE. All those times you pulled off because it was too crazy or crowded? I HAD to be out there. Hell, I probably put more hours in one year than most of you have or will have in your entire life. And guess what. I've NEVER had a collision. Why? because I was responsible, alert, and IN CONTROL. Whether the boat had a blue light, or was one of my own boats, I never so much as scratched another piece of gelcoat.

I don't have anything against flatties or any other kind of boat. Except that THEY are the only ones who try to pull off these unlicensed events. They are also the ones that are usually unregistered, illegal exhaust, and flaunt it whenever and wherever they can. And while the boats involved in this weekend's wrecks may have not been actively involved in the illegal event, it contributed to it by putting a whole lot more boats in an already dangerous section of River.

And whoever it was that made the comment about kids on docks, (I'm not going to bother to go back and find out who) proved my point. YOU want to stop people from enjoying THEIR property just because YOU just might come flying by and run over their dock, like it's your right to do so. How about you don't let your kids play hopscotch in your driveway, because I might just want to come driving by at 100 MPH and may lose control and run them over. After all, driveways are to park your car.

Not all PWC operators are idiots. Not all Wakeboat operators are inconsiderate. Not all pontoon boat operators are 70 years old. Not all Flat operators are jerks. Not all DCB owners are stuck-up snobs (well, I'll have to think about that one).

One thing is for sure in this thread. We all found out who the dick swingers are.

Damn it Allan , dont tell me you don't like Bassets . Ha ha !
 

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Was also out on the strip this weekend.. you had flatties..v's..cats.. 30 from dcbs..wakeboard botes.. seadoos..kids being dragged behind boats..and majority of this was out in front of foxes and the sand bar .. there is just too many fn people and watercraft out on that narrow stretch. . I kicked it at the sandbar til 2:30.. ran across to Sundance for some food for the kids and took the boat off the water.. f that mess...went back to the pad and got drunk 😎😜
 

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Seems it’s just getting to crowded.


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Seems it’s just getting to crowded.


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Every weekend been that way. I asked and everyone is getting in as many trips as possible where normally there kids would be in school and sports. No school no games might as well go to the River. Can't blame them. My Nephew told me earlier he wants to live at the River Pad for Summer. Bringing all 5 of the Nephews and Nieces next week. They want to get out of the house and can't see there school friends so going stir crazy.
 

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BUT!!? aren't you always saying Parker Is Closed?

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WELL if so, should Not matter to you= RIGHT?

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If you were trying to make a clever point, it was lost because you can’t type a complete sentence. Consider proofreading your work next time.
 

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obviously lots of folks havnt taken the boaters course because they dont give a fuck what side of the river they haul ass on.its like a fucking high speed chase on tv except with boats. like that white twin outboard bad ass boat.i watched it flying back and forth like a fucking air craft carrier on crack.nice boat for sure but takes up alot of river at the reef during low water.fuck the family in the bayliner trying to get thru at the same time. then throw in your teenagers on the pwc's.hope im wrong but shits gonna get crazy this weekend.stay safe.
 

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99% boated safely last weekend. Enforce laws, make arrest, write tickets. Multiple agencies patrol 14 miles of river to enforce laws that are in place. Our freedom allows us to make mistakes and pay the consequences. That's the cost. It ain't free. Anyone that thinks no wake bouys belong in this area start saving your money cause socialism gonna cost you big time. By the way, I have boated since 1973 on strip, what do I win?
 
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Get over yourself. 99% boated safely last weekend. Enforce laws, make arrest, write tickets. Multiple agencies patrol 14 miles of river to enforce laws that are in place. Our freedom allows us to make mistakes and pay the consequences. That's the cost. It ain't free. Anyone that thinks no wake bouys belong in this area start saving your money cause socialism gonna cost you big time. By the way, I have boated since 1973 on strip, what do I win?
macho man trophy if your lucky
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Post was towards Mr wonderful, not you. I just assume many think twice before hitting the throttle or operating for that matter. Kids can be safe operators and 40 yr olds can be idiots. Not a lot of laws in place to minimize nonsense but we are not all dick swinging idiots because we didnt join coast guard and drive up and down the river all day all week for a second career. Majority did not crash our vessels into a dock last weekend.
 
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