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WAS SUPER STOKED....Now im not.....kids staying home for school

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****UPDATE - No in-class learning yet..... :mad: :mad: :mad: ******

*original post*

So stoked right now!

I've been extremely worried about what post-summer is gonna look like for my 6 year old daughter and 8 year old son. Both of them are at critical ages for learning the fundamentals, and developing social skills. The last semester with LAUSD has been pretty much meaningless due to Covid and LAUSD's lack of a getting a timely plan together. In fact....as of today, there is still no publicized plan! 83% of teachers voted to not go back into the classroom, so that tells you alot about where their head is.

We are buying a home in Conejo Valley, but we don't close till mid-September,. My wife called the school district and found out we can enroll the kids prior to closing, and we found out that they will be teaching in-class, offering a 1/2 day schedule and splitting the class up into 2 groups - one group in morning, one group after. This allows the kids to be spaced apart and cuts class size in 1/2. This is 5 days a week. Seems like the best possible solution given the current circumstances and Covid insanity

Anyways - with all the gloom and doom around here, just wanted to share this little victory. Super excited for my 1st grader and 3rd grader to see other kids again and socialize, and get some real face to face time with a teacher.

Go Conejo Valley! Can't wait to move, the decision looks better already :cool:
 
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We just spent $1000 tooling up for home school, because our district and the private school we previously had our boy in can't make up their minds what they want to do.
 

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As far as I’m aware we have no choice because Newsom made it for us? Our school was planning to open but we are also in a hot zone so I guess that settled that? I don’t really know I don’t really ask.
 

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Our granddaughter is scheduled for Public school kindergarten - "distance learning" as of now... we found a private school that will do IN SCHOOL - but she is on the wait list :-(
 

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San Diego County on Gov. A$$hold watchlist.
public and private schools are distance learning until we are off watchlist for 14 days. Current trend has that occurring around Sept 1. So maybe Oct 1 we get back into the classroom
 

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As far as I’m aware we have no choice because Newsom made it for us? Our school was planning to open but we are also in a hot zone so I guess that settled that? I don’t really know I don’t really ask.
What they told us, was that they can teach in-class so long as the govenor does not implement a statewide "stay at home" order. Maybe the area and covid situation in the area play into it, not sure.
 

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We just spent $1000 tooling up for home school, because our district and the private school we previously had our boy in can't make up their minds what they want to do.
It's crazy that a plan has not been established right? I get that the first few months are reactionary and wont be ideal, but the lack of plan for next semester for alot of these school districts seems crazy. At least have plan A and plan B and share them?
 

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I am very happy for you. As I type this, my wife is trying to get my youngest online. He starts tomorrow online, from 7:45 to 2:30...it is a cluster F of the highest magnitude. We live on the outskirts, ISP is flakey at best, and they expect us to stream live video. Something tells me I'll be at the district office repeatedly, very soon.
My wife teaches in the same district, her school is no different.

Also a huge invasion of privacy...not a fan of strangers watching my kids on camera....
 

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I am very happy for you. As I type this, my wife is trying to get my youngest online. He starts tomorrow online, from 7:45 to 2:30...it is a cluster F of the highest magnitude. We live on the outskirts, ISP is flakey at best, and they expect us to stream live video. Something tells me I'll be at the district office repeatedly, very soon.
My wife teaches in the same district, her school is no different.

Also a huge invasion of privacy...not a fan of strangers watching my kids on camera....
I feel for ya, how old? 7:45 - 2:30 in front of a monitor every day is gnarly for a kid!
 

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What they told us, was that they can teach in-class so long as the govenor does not implement a statewide "stay at home" order. Maybe the area and covid situation in the area play into it, not sure.

check to see if the county you are moving to is on watchlist.
what you described is what our school had planned until gov Issued Revised school orders for counties on watch list.
 

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My daughter is starting her senior year on-campus at W oodcrest Christian in Riverside (County).

We're still waiting to hear what the plan is if a HS student (even middle school) tests positive. Remember, a teacher may teach 6 or 7 periods in one day with an average of 30-students/class...so I think 1 positive case impacts 180 students. With an entire student body of 900...the school can get wiped out pretty quick.

Easier to manage for the lower grades, but harder to teach online.

Harder to manage an outbreak for 6-period schedules, but easier to teach online.

Confusing
 

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Kids in class for school? Pffft. That is so 2019. :looking:








My best goes out those with young families. I am so happy that our son completed college 3 years ago. I don’t know how families are doing it. We have a few friends with young kids. Best of luck in the new school year!!!
 

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I feel for ya, how old? 7:45 - 2:30 in front of a monitor every day is gnarly for a kid!
He's 12...and the one that this will probably hurt the most in our family. I have a freshman and a senior as well, they start both high school and college courses in two weeks...educational shit show! My wife teaches kinder...try to get a 5yo on line...
Glad I turn wrenches and beat stuff with hammers.
 

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I'm a high school teacher, but I don't work in a regular classroom. I teach Indep Study and see kids 1 on 1 for 30-60 minutes once a week. For 25 years we have been giving them the entire semester's coursework on the first day. They only work in 2 classes at a time usually, and are expected to finish a course every 3 weeks. We have never had a need for Google Classroom, Zoom, Canvas, Odysseyware, Edgenuity or any of the other computer programs that students already work in. This program is old school pen and paper. I fear a whole lot of regular classroom teachers are going to find themselves in the same boat, and will not be able to adapt newer technology for an online presentation. It will get better I'm sure, but so many districts are woefully behind in technology that is needed now.
We, the Indep Study teachers, literally just found out last Tuesday, what technology we are going to be using. None of us has been trained in any of it and neither have the kids. During the last school year, I was taking work and assigning work through text messages, as that is what the kids were familiar with too. We open next week and are expected to have something in place where we will visually see students, and we will be assigning work and getting it turned back in with a pretty slick program called EdGenuity.

Last August I was 4 years from retirement, and it felt like it would go by so fast I might stay for years 31, 32, and 33 while my youngest finishs community college.
Next week is the start of year 27 and I don't think Year 30 can come fast enough, Thank you Gov. Newsome. Hope you enjoy your recall.

It is going to be a bumpy ride come opening day. Wish me luck.
 

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I really feel for all the families with younger kids.

My daughter is a senior in high school this year. She will be fine but still kind of sucks for her to be stuck at home doing school while her mother and I go to work everyday. Bought her a car in February and I think she was really enjoying the driving to school before the stay at home order hit.
 

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My youngest will be a Senior too. He was supposed to take Auto 2 this year. It has an internship with the county. Students drive to county maintenance facility and do oil and filter kind of stuff. He would very much like to be a mechanic and is well suited for it and some of the kids do get hired after graduation. He was looking forward to it and it would certainly look good on a resume.
Again, thank you Governor.
 

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I think the threats of going on strike by the teacher's unions are being made for political reasons, not fear of the virus.

Biden has made it clear he supports the unions, not better schooling. Here are some examples, some from a July 4 video call with National Education Association members, others from campaign speeches. Biden's wife Jill is a member of the NEA.

“When we win this election, we’re going to get the support you need and the respect you deserve,” Mr. Biden said. “You don’t just have a partner in the White House, you’ll have an NEA member in the White House. And if I’m not listening, I’m going to be sleeping alone in the Lincoln Bedroom.”

Another gem from that event:

“This is going to be a teacher-oriented Department of Education.” No mention was made of the students.

Charter schools have appeared nationwide, giving hope to inner city parents betrayed by years of public school failures in spite of school district taxes that have increased year after year for decades. Nationwide there has been documented proof that charter schools are producing results that public schools can only dream of. Minority parents are making every effort to place their students in these schools, only to be thwarted by the Democrat politicians that run the cities.

Congressional Democrats have made it clear they intend to remove all federal funding from charter schools if they are voted into power. In fact, their goal is to make it illegal for charter schools to receive any federal benefits at all. Biden made that clear earlier this year.

“No privately funded charter school—or private charter school—would receive a penny of federal money,” he told the NEA in March, when it endorsed him in the Democratic primary.

Biden's July speech doubled down on his intentions to give union members more money at the expense of children.

He told the NEA that his plan involves “higher salaries for educators,” “universal pre-K,” and “tripling the funding for Title I schools.” He pledged to “double the number of school psychologists and counselors and nurses and social workers in school,” and to “help educators wipe out the burden of their own student debt.”

It's clear Biden, Democrats, and the NEA don't give a damn about poor and minority students. In exchange for the Union's votes, Biden will provide the quote pro quo of raises, pension increases, and cancellation of student loans.

Their collective push to keep schools closed due to an overblown and wholly manufactured fear of COVID-19 proves that students don't matter.

Those students are far less likely to have access to broadband internet. They don't have the home structure to support online learning. Parents cannot afford iPads and Chromebooks, the cheapest access to remote teaching, or pay for broadband.. They're also not at home to monitor their children's attendance at online sessions, because they have to work to ward off hunger and eviction.

The kids are much more likely to be gaming or wandering the streets, a situation confirmed by multiple surveys and inquiries. I've read the results, and up to 80% of students in urban settings are receiving no instruction at all. In addition, school closings have removed the only access these children have to nutritional meals.

The source for my quotes above:


In my state, Texas, the required school achievement and advancement testing, known by an acronym as STAAR tests, has been suspended for the remainder of 2020. Advancement of students to the next grade levels for the fall 2020 semester is being being determined by:
  • The recommendation of the student's teacher,
  • The student's grade in each subject or course, and
  • Any other necessary academic information, as determined by the district.
As you might imagine, millions of Texas parents have no faith whatsoever that school officials and teachers will use any methods relevant to actual learning to advance students to the next grade. Everyone will pass, and get a participation ribbon.

For the last four months, school boards, administrators, and teachers have strenuously asserted that online teaching has provided students with the same level of instruction attained by classroom teaching.

Now, suddenly, there is a movement afoot to cancel STAAR testing for the entire 2021 school year

The teacher's unions claims the virus has placed undue stress on the students, which will continue for the foreseeable future. These children can't possibly learn their normal lessons plus study for the test. They've also asserted the standardized test system is racist, and the elimination of the testing altogether should be explored.

The speeches of Biden, the actions of school officials, and the assertions by teacher's unions both locally and nationwide make things abundantly clear. It is the avowed intention of liberals to cripple the nation's education system, in a cynical plan to make a permanent underclass that will be reliant on government largess. They will destroy the ability of millions to hold jobs.

As a result, Democrats will add these unemployables to the huge population of illegal aliens, drug users, unwed mothers, convicted felons, and minorities trapped in the hellholes of urban decay to the rolls of Democrat voters.

Joe Biden, liberals, and socialists also intend to destroy corporate America, dismantle American energy production, make IC cars illegal, and cover every ridgeline and desert with windmills and solar farms. They will make right to work states to exist. They'll eliminate the secret union ballot, exposing those that vote against unionization to violence.

Biden's "plans" and "investments" he has enumerated so far have an $11 trillion price tag. He has proposed a $4 trillion tax increase. He has said he will eviscerate Trump's rollbacks of regulations, returning the economy to the crushing weight of bureaucracy.

You might survive all this. Your kids won't.
 
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My kids are 6 and 3. My 6 is enrolled in public school and it appears since OC is a "hot zone" per newsucks rule, that we will be distance learning. So we are having her go back to her old montessori school she came from pre-kindergarten and where her younger brother currently goes. Now a private school costs a fortune, especially for two kids. However my wife and I are considered "essential" so the lovely state of CA and all its glorious tax dollars have been paying thousands for my kids to be in two schools. It blows my mind the way our gov works... It also makes me furious to know some kids are going to be sitting at home doing jack squat because both parents work and cant force them to actually participate in front of a computer for 6 hours a day. Its already impossible to get some to even catch on when they're in a classroom let alone not physically there.
 

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@Bigbore500r you better double check. I live in Conejo Valley and in classroom school is canceled. They had developed a plan like you described but notified us all their would be no in classroom school to begin the year, and they canceled prior to the state ban.

I've hear the teachers union put a stop to it. Lots of teachers were freaking out. I highly doubt normal school will resume this year.

Our daughter went to public school for TK last year, and was set to begin kinder this year. We've decided to enroll her in daycare that has an accredited kinder program, as it's considered essential.

good luck and welcome to the neighborhood. Where's the new house?
 

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My daughter is a senior this year as well. I’m broken hearted for her. She’s one of the alpha leader hot chick squadron. She’s waited and prepared her whole life for senior year. She took all core classes the last three years to get the cruise schedule, two core classes and the rest electives. No homecoming dance. No prom. None of all the cool shit she was dreaming of. Totally sux for her.


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We just spent $1000 tooling up for home school, because our district and the private school we previously had our boy in can't make up their minds what they want to do.
Good choice do it both my kids were home-schooled and our oldest daughter had no trouble going through college and at graduation had companies Nationwide fighting over her for a job. She writes blueprints for commercial interior design. She's 24 and her company flies her all over North America looking at vendors products.

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Our kids are both going to be remote and get to speak with the teacher twice a day. If the kids have any questions who do they ask? Mom and dad of course. But we are supposed to be working. Just like thereafter is supposed to be working.
So it looks like we are doing our job and the teachers job. Yes of course it’s our job to teach our kids but not on a full time basis each day.
Thats why part of our property tax goes to schools correct? So now our work performance will suffer or we have to work longer.
Biggest bummer is my middle kid is starting kindergarten and this whole thing fucks up her first day of school memories that she will never have now.

This whole Covid BS is beyond blown out of proportion.
 

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So stoked right now!

I've been extremely worried about what post-summer is gonna look like for my 6 year old daughter and 8 year old son. Both of them are at critical ages for learning the fundamentals, and developing social skills. The last semester with LAUSD has been pretty much meaningless due to Covid and LAUSD's lack of a getting a timely plan together. In fact....as of today, there is still no publicized plan! 83% of teachers voted to not go back into the classroom, so that tells you alot about where their head is.

We are buying a home in Conejo Valley, but we don't close till mid-September,. My wife called the school district and found out we can enroll the kids prior to closing, and we found out that they will be teaching in-class, offering a 1/2 day schedule and splitting the class up into 2 groups - one group in morning, one group after. This allows the kids to be spaced apart and cuts class size in 1/2. This is 5 days a week. Seems like the best possible solution given the current circumstances and Covid insanity

Anyways - with all the gloom and doom around here, just wanted to share this little victory. Super excited for my 1st grader and 3rd grader to see other kids again and socialize, and get some real face to face time with a teacher.

Go Conejo Valley! Can't wait to move, the decision looks better already :cool:
That’s awesome I wish AZ would pull their heads out
Of their asses
 

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@Bigbore500r you better double check. I live in Conejo Valley and in classroom school is canceled. They had developed a plan like you described but notified us all their would be no in classroom school to begin the year, and they canceled prior to the state ban.

I've hear the teachers union put a stop to it. Lots of teachers were freaking out. I highly doubt normal school will resume this year.

Our daughter went to public school for TK last year, and was set to begin kinder this year. We've decided to enroll her in daycare that has an accredited kinder program, as it's considered essential.

good luck and welcome to the neighborhood. Where's the new house?

thanks for the welcome !
We’re near Lynn / 101

we spoke to school yesterday, as of now the offer 1/2 day in-class instruction
 

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Also I’m a teacher. Maybe not a traditional teacher but I have my credentials and I sit in a classroom. I haven’t had a day off since this bullshit started. I have a lot of feelings about teachers that don’t want to teach but I’ll keep them to myself.
 

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My wife is credentialed in CA and NM, and if it weren't for our small town having a hell of a school district, we'd have home schooled from the start. Thanks to our Lujan virus governor, our options were: virtual, or hybrid (split alphabetically- mon, tues, A-L, thurs, fri M-Z wednesday is deep cleaning and all students virtual) We opted to use the schools virtual curriculum mostly because of our 9th grader. (we have a 5th, 8th and 9th) Our school district has a few substantial scholarships that kids with good grades are eligible for if they've been in our school system at least 9th grade on. (oil and gas industry Really blesses our small town)
The other plus to using the school's curriculum is that if/when they can go back to normal, the virtual kids get to go back also. Plus they can still participate in any sports allowed and electives through the school.
 

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@Bigbore500r I just spoke with district and they confirmed no in classroom instruction to begin the school year. The wife and I are both essential so we've been following this closely. Ill send you my number in a PM if you guys have any questions about the schools or neighborhood
 

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@Bigbore500r I just spoke with district and they confirmed no in classroom instruction to begin the school year. The wife and I are both essential so we've been following this closely. Ill send you my number in a PM if you guys have any questions about the schools or neighborhood
I went back and checked and you are correct! We got bad info. Thread title edited. Son of a bitch :mad:
 

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We had a young kid that was our 4th for golf this past weekend. I overheard him talking to his dad about apts near his new college. Being a curious old fart I asked where he was going. He's starting at UCSD where my daughter went. He's going to be attending in a hybred manner having classes twice weekly plus online.
 

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Good choice do it both my kids were home-schooled and our oldest daughter had no trouble going through college and at graduation had companies Nationwide fighting over her for a job. She writes blueprints for commercial interior design. She's 24 and her company flies her all over North America looking at vendors products.

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We figured if the kid is gonna home, we're gonna need to supervise him anyway, so we might as well be the instructors and save $7K/year. Luckily, Krystal is a stay at home mom...so she can pull this off. Hopefully, I'll be back working by then. We're working with about 5 other families from the school...2 of which have both parents who work and can't really do the distance learning thing without a severe financial blow. We're gonna try to get the 5 kids together every day at one of 3 houses so they can get some social interaction and the 3 parents can sorta tag team the instruction.

Jury is still out on how it'll work
 

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We had a young kid that was our 4th for golf this past weekend. I overheard him talking to his dad about apts near his new college. Being a curious old fart I asked where he was going. He's starting at UCSD where my daughter went. He's going to be attending in a hybred manner having classes twice weekly plus online.

that is better then my sophomore @ UofHawaii.
12 units are all online
1 is in-person (Marching Band), if he does to attend this class he loses his scholarships (band, merit based for band).

shipping him off to Hawaii Aug 21 so we can attend that 1 class in person and online the rest from his dorm.
i was not in favor of this, but if he lost his scholarships, that was a huge cost impact
 

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At half a day in class was it really a win?

Compared to 3 hours of Zoom a week, absolutely. 5 days of in-class instruction at 1/2 day is far better, not just from a schoolwork persepctive. Kids need to see other kids, develop and nurture social skills, etc. Having them cooped up in the house all day staring at a computer screen is killing them
 

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I have a nephew who is very smart and musically talented. He can play just about any instrument and play by ear. He is fluent in 3 languages. This past year was his senior year. The kid always worked hard at his studies, played in the band and was invited to play at the rockefeller center. He applied to 12 colleges, mostly Ivy League. Got accepted at all but one. So, no graduation, no prom, no grad trip, no grad present. He was supposed to go to Disneyworld for the grad trip and his grad present was a trip to Europe and Israel.

He decided on Georgetown University. GU was up in the air about how they would teach. It looked like they were going to have regular classes, then it was online but on campus. They just announced it will be via computer off campus. My sister is beside herself and my nephew is quite depressed. The kid worked hard and now he gets to enjoy the college experience from his childhood bedroom. I feel bad for him, as college was some of the best times of my life. I recognize that there are other things in life that could be much worse, but just feel bad for him.

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Crazy times for sure....

We are dealing with the same thing with my kids that are 8, 6, and 4. My 4 year old goes to preschool up the street from our house and they are still planning to move forward as of now.

My wife is stressing out, she lost her job back in March when all of this craziness started taking over. She is stuck between a rock and a hard spot, she isnt and never has been the stay at home mom/wife, she has always worked. But now with all of this going on with schools its pretty much impossible for her to look for a job until this all passes. Trying to find a new job/ start a new job while also trying to educate a 8 year old and 6 year old is setting herself up for failure.

I told her this was going to be the year for road trips. If she isnt workng and kids are doing the distant leaning thing we are going to take advantage and travel if we can and learn on the road.
 

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Compared to 3 hours of Zoom a week, absolutely. 5 days of in-class instruction at 1/2 day is far better, not just from a schoolwork persepctive. Kids need to see other kids, develop and nurture social skills, etc. Having them cooped up in the house all day staring at a computer screen is killing them

Oh I’m not disputing that at all.
What I’m wondering is if that’s worth settling for?
For many 2 income families it still does not permit a second spousal job. Half a day is more logistical demanding than a full day when it comes to transportation etc.

We were told a 14 day shut down months ago to prevent overwhelming hospitals. Most people, including me, agreed as it was a big unknown. Now months later, with hardly a whimper, state governments have destroyed thousands of businesses, wasted entire economies, put millions out of work, watched murder rates double while eliminating law, etc etc ad nauseam.
And the only reason they’ve accomplished this is because we don’t do anything.
We settle for half days.
My kids are grown. My oldest is a teacher in Sac (or was) her future is completely up in the air. She has 2 boys of her own.
This shit is completely and totally off the rails.
Every single parent of school kids in every damn town needs to meet at every capital building at the same time and DEMAND sanity be restored.
 

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Sounds like some of parents better stock up on johnys condom supply ! Teenagers at home all day with no supervision . Nothing good can come of it .
 

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I know 4 teachers in my district as friends. They just don't want to work. Burned out on the system. Can't really blame them.
The kiddo is going until 11:30
Half days 4 days a week. I opted out on the Friday special.
 

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Gotta love how the teachers always say it's about the children when they want to raise taxes but now that they don't want to do their jobs, it's all about teacher safety.
 

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Gotta love how the teachers always say it's about the children when they want to raise taxes but now that they don't want to do their jobs, it's all about teacher safety.
It's really more about the teachers union and the district than the actual teachers. The debate I listened to was a waste of time and breath. Public schools are 3/4 of my tax bill each year. There are far more "Administrators" than teachers. Ya.... It's all about the Kiddo's. LOL !!
 

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They released the waiver process last night, but it only allows re-opening grades K-6. I don’t know how my daughter’s HS campus plans on opening...
 

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Our school (private) sent home a letter saying they did their research, here are the precautions they are taking and they are going to have kids on campus.

Of course, some motherfucking Karen takes the letter to the news and starts bitching about how it’s unsafe. It’s so fucking simple, if you don’t like it, leave. Even said so in the letter (in much nicer words).

Jesus Christ they have people literally tripping over themselves to turn in their neighbors. What in the nazi hell is this place turning into? Very frustrated to say the least.

Personal accountability and minding your own business seem to be long lost at this point. 😡
 
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I keep reading that you "WAS SUPER SOAKED". Especially with the super soaker thread going on at the same time.
 

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Oh I’m not disputing that at all.
What I’m wondering is if that’s worth settling for?
For many 2 income families it still does not permit a second spousal job. Half a day is more logistical demanding than a full day when it comes to transportation etc.

We were told a 14 day shut down months ago to prevent overwhelming hospitals. Most people, including me, agreed as it was a big unknown. Now months later, with hardly a whimper, state governments have destroyed thousands of businesses, wasted entire economies, put millions out of work, watched murder rates double while eliminating law, etc etc ad nauseam.
And the only reason they’ve accomplished this is because we don’t do anything.
We settle for half days.
My kids are grown. My oldest is a teacher in Sac (or was) her future is completely up in the air. She has 2 boys of her own.
This shit is completely and totally off the rails.
Every single parent of school kids in every damn town needs to meet at every capital building at the same time and DEMAND sanity be restored.
Seek out and sign the recall...then vote R in every local election you can..it takes a while to turn a barge, give us a hand and grab the wheel today!!
 

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Daughter's school just tapped out; no on-campus learning.

20% discount on tuition
 

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My middle boys Christian school is still going. I think they are calling it daycare. Karen went off yesterday because no one was wearing masks so we see how long it lasts. This guy is taking a test 🙄🙄🙄
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Glad my kids are way past this school bullshit.....oh wait....my wife stayed home while they were in school anyways. 😂
 
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