Why Would Anyone Want To Be a Cop In MN

[regor]

Just another libturd POS.

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

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Just another libturd POS.

Gonna be curious to see what the officer offers as justification. Shooting fleeing felons kinda went out with Tennesse v Garner.

 

[regor]

Gonna be curious to see what the officer offers as justification. Shooting fleeing felons kinda went out with Tennesse v Garner.

Just like the Fentynal Floyd was “killed” by Chauvin?

Im glad yore back Misfire.

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

Just like the Fentynal Floyd was “killed” by Chauvin?

Im glad yore back Misfire.

As I’ve said, I don’t know what combination of factors were actually responsible for Floyd’s death. I’ve been aware of excited delirium as well as positional asphyxia for more than 15 years as a Taser and Use of Force instructor. What I KNOW is that Chauvin continued to use force against a man who was no longer resisting and in fact dying. That is a violation of the 4th Amendment prohibition on unreasonable force and by law an illegal assault. Whether it was also the medical insult that pushed Floyd over the edge is a question I’ll leave to the medical examiner and jury, and I’m glad I don’t have to answer it.

 

[regor]

As I’ve said, I don’t know what combination of factors were actually responsible for Floyd’s death. I’ve been aware of excited delirium as well as positional asphyxia for more than 15 years as a Taser and Use of Force instructor. What I KNOW is that Chauvin continued to use force against a man who was no longer resisting and in fact dying. That is a violation of the 4th Amendment prohibition on unreasonable force and by law an illegal assault. Whether it was also the medical insult that pushed Floyd over the edge is a question I’ll leave to the medical examiner and jury, and I’m glad I don’t have to answer it.

Meh, just think of it as Derrick putting Georgie out of his misery.

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

Meh, just think of it as Derrick putting Georgie out of his misery.

Not his job. And that still matters to people like me and (I believe) honest cops like T&Y.

 

[FROGMAN524]

So the guy had a warrant, resisted and tried to flee. Are simple instructions that hard to follow?


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[LowRiver2]

Not his job. And that still matters to people like me and (I believe) honest cops like T&Y.

Try 99% of all Cops, but you be you

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

So the guy had a warrant, resisted and tried to flee. Are simple instructions that hard to follow?


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Not for me. All those things made it 100% legit for them to dog pile him, handcuff him, and arrest him. That alone could have also killed a suspect with excited delirium and that would have been a “lawful but awful” death. But they didn’t stop at that Constitutional legitimate use of force. They continued after he lost consciousness, and THAT was illegal and PeRHAPS contributed to his death. That’s the question the ME and jury must answer and I wish them the best with that terrible decision.

 

[LowRiver2]

Gonna be curious to see what the officer offers as justification. Shooting fleeing felons kinda went out with Tennesse v Garner.

Along with active shooters, serial rapists and suicide bombers?
Sure

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

Try 99% of all Cops, but you be you

Yeah, I’d agree 99% of cops are honest guys who go to work trying to make things better. But even if 1% of us are not, that is a huge number and the 99% must police our own. You’d agree with that, right? I also know that we make split second, critical decisions every day and we make mistakes. When a surgeon makes a mistake and somebody dies, he probably gets sued while cops face potential criminal charges. That’s shit, and I’ve defended the UOF actions of far more cops than I’ve criticized. But Chauvin in particular crossed a CLEAR line, and when we see that we must repudiate it.

 

[LowRiver2]

Not for me. All those things made it 100% legit for them to dog pile him, handcuff him, and arrest him. That alone could have also killed a suspect with excited delirium and that would have been a “lawful but awful” death. But they didn’t stop at that Constitutional legitimate use of force. They continued after he lost consciousness, and THAT was illegal and PeRHAPS contributed to his death. That’s the question the ME and jury must answer and I wish them the best with that terrible decision.

Should of sat him up once they gained control. The crowd of onlookers was a distraction they (Cops) got sucked into, and the death ensued.
Most likely Chavin gets convicted of 3rd degree homicide (Ca calls it involuntary manslaughter)
The other three should not get the same conviction, most likely won’t since DA pushed to try them separately.
Mn. Gets what they deserve: less qualified applicants , higher crime, but , no more citizens being “killed” by Cops, because its’s okay to be killed bu other citizens in many minds of the public....

Progress lol

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

Along with active shooters, serial rapists and suicide bombers?
Sure

You may shoot any of the above per Tennessee v Garner if they are an immediate threat or if their escape would allow the probable commission of more and similar violent crimes. Given the repeat nature of each of those violent criminals, I’d have no issue shooting any of them in the back as he fled. But if you can’t distinguish between an active shooter and a guy who passed a bogus $20, retire now.

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

Should of sat him up once they gained control. The crowd of onlookers was a distraction they (Cops) got sucked into, and the death ensued.
Most likely Chavin gets convicted of 3rd degree homicide (Ca calls it involuntary manslaughter)
The other three should not get the same conviction, most likely won’t since DA pushed to try them separately.
Mn. Gets what they deserve: less qualified applicants , higher crime, but , no more citizens being “killed” by Cops, because its’s okay to be killed bu other citizens in many minds of the public....

Progress lol

Wow, for once I agree with everything you said.

 

[LowRiver2]

Yeah, I’d agree 99% of cops are honest guys who go to work trying to make things better. But even if 1% of us are not, that is a huge number and the 99% must police our own. You’d agree with that, right? I also know that we make split second, critical decisions every day and we make mistakes. When a surgeon makes a mistake and somebody dies, he probably gets sued while cops face potential criminal charges. That’s shit, and I’ve defended the UOF actions of far more cops than I’ve criticized. But Chauvin in particular crossed a CLEAR line, and when we see that we must repudiate it.

The desire to weed out bad Cops has never changed, neither has City councils and Command Staff overriding PD backgrounds in hiring questionable recruits that should’ve never been hired.
No one is perfect, it’s a cancer (bad employees), that all professions have.

 

[LowRiver2]

You may shoot any of the above per Tennessee v Garner if they are an immediate threat or if their escape would allow the probable commission of more and similar violent crimes. Given the repeat nature of each of those violent criminals, I’d have no issue shooting any of them in the back as he fled. But if you can’t distinguish between an active shooter and a guy who passed a bogus $20, retire now.

Okay

So where do you work in OR and how long have you had a badge?

Or are you too secret to tell me?
Ha ha

I’m hoping you have less than 5 on wirh your little holier than thou attitude, but might be a low crime area, so that chip stays on longer .

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

The desire to weed out bad Cops has never changed, neither has City councils and Command Staff overriding PD backgrounds in hiring questionable recruits that should’ve never been hired.
No one is perfect, it’s a cancer (bad employees), that all professions have.

And I agree with that too. But it can’t stop when an employee is hired. Cops need continuous quality training and they need to stay in the path for 20-30 years. Somewhere along the line, that fell apart in Minneapolis.

 

[LowRiver2]

Wow, for once I agree with everything you said.

29 years on, Dual status Sgt. and Detective, I might know a few things.

 

[LowRiver2]

And I agree with that too. But it can’t stop when an employee is hired. Cops need continuous quality training and they need to stay in the path for 20-30 years. Somewhere along the line, that fell apart in Minneapolis.

You must be in a sub 100 Cop PD

All big PD’s in so cal can get a problem rookie, have concerns by all of their field training Officers (in writing by the FTO), and the rookie still makes probation.
Rafael Perez
Thomas Mack
Both had large paper trails of problems and were gang associates prior to being hired
Both left a swath of destruction in our department.

The responsibility is as much the city as the PD

And for MN: Officer training is a patchwork across the US as to tactics and competency.
That won’t change anytime soon.

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

You must be in a sub 100 Cop PD

All big PD’s in so cal can get a problem rookie, have concerns by all of their field training Officers (in writing by the FTO), and the rookie still makes probation.
Rafael Perez
Thomas Mack
Both had large paper trails of problems and were gang associates prior to being hired
Both left a swath of destruction in our department.

The responsibility is as much the city as the PD

And for MN: Officer training is a patchwork across the US as to tactics and competency.
That won’t change anytime soon.

And that is probably why the city just paid out on a $27 million civil suit. Money that should have been spent on recruiting and training.

 

[just_floatin]

Clearly the situation was under control. Just another friendly protest. GameStop, and Foot Lockers looted. Home Depot and Lowe’s untouched.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381401343785586691

 

[JUSTWANINARACE]

Clearly the situation was under control. Just another friendly protest. GameStop and Foot Lockers looted. Home Depot and Lowe’s untouched.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381401343785586691

Was the threat from Floyd our the crowd around them? Tactically as well as legally, those officers should have been on their feet facing the threats rather than kneeling on Floyd.

 

[just_floatin]

Was the threat from Floyd our the crowd around them? Tactically as well as legally, those officers should have been on their feet facing the threats rather than kneeling on Floyd.

WAP WAP WAP

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381614793581326337

 

[DILLIGAF]

WAP WAP WAP

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381614793581326337

That was awesome....well done officer

 

[LowRiver2]

And that is probably why the city just paid out on a $27 million civil suit. Money that should have been spent on recruiting and training.

They paid at least 50% more than any city would have because they had a city council who: 1. Want to placate the few loud mouths+MSM and 2. The city knew they were getting fed money in a “relief” package that will cover the city cost.
We all paid more than should have been paid thanks to that city council and the sitting Congress.
And yes, big cities pay to bury everyone PD’s have a hand in, even dead ones that kill Officers
True story

 

[LowRiver2]

Was the threat from Floyd our the crowd around them? Tactically as well as legally, those officers should have been on their feet facing the threats rather than kneeling on Floyd.

Let’s get back to my question newbie:
1. Where do you work,
2. Why did you create a name so close to another inmate’s name
3. @LargeOrangeFont , I’d say IP might get interesting on this inmate, time will tell.

 

[Cole 392]

Another future NASA engineers life cut short
“He WUZ a Gud Boi”

 

[SNiC Jet]

Let’s get back to my question newbie:
1. Where do you work,
2. Why did you create a name so close to another inmate’s name
3. @LargeOrangeFont , I’d say IP might get interesting on this inmate, time will tell.

This is what he does.....GMac is simply a troll with an appetite for attention.

 

[t&y]

The desire to weed out bad Cops has never changed, neither has City councils and Command Staff overriding PD backgrounds in hiring questionable recruits that should’ve never been hired.
No one is perfect, it’s a cancer (bad employees), that all professions have.

I expect this to change shortly. Just like most other professions are being attacked, I am guessing we will see affirmative action back in police hiring. I've been in the minority for years on my department so I think my job is safe lol.. But you and I have both seen what happens when standards are lowered in this profession.

 

[JUSTWANNARACE]

Gonna be curious to see what the officer offers as justification. Shooting fleeing felons kinda went out with Tennesse v Garner.

Geezus fuk.. change your name

 

[t&y]

Geezus fuk.. change your name

No shit right. He needs to grow a pair of balls and come back with GMAC#2 or something.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Let’s get back to my question newbie:
1. Where do you work,
2. Why did you create a name so close to another inmate’s name
3. @LargeOrangeFont , I’d say IP might get interesting on this inmate, time will tell.

Yea same turd did it to me a few days ago.

 

[regor]

Geezus fuk.. change your name

You've got to change your avatar and I have a suggestion.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

And I agree with that too. But it can’t stop when an employee is hired. Cops need continuous quality training and they need to stay in the path for 20-30 years. Somewhere along the line, that fell apart in Minneapolis.

So who dropped the ball? The Democrat MN Governor? The Democrat Minneapolis mayor, or the Democrat African American chief of police in Minneapolis?

 

[Universal Elements]

So who dropped the ball? The Democrat MN Governor? The Democrat Minneapolis mayor, or the Democrat African American chief of police in Minneapolis?

Yes

 

[LowRiver2]

My open invite to GMAC still stands. Sadly he runs from reality every time.

 

[hallett3]

Bodycam footage of police shooting of Daunte Wright released

The black man who died during a traffic stop in Minnesota was fatally shot by an officer who mistook her gun for a Taser, officials said Monday, as they played body camera footage from the incident…

nypost.com

. Shows female officer thought she had a taser but had her service weapon. Big oops but if he complies he wouldn’t be dead right now . Not complying has it consequences.

 

[t&y]

Bodycam footage of police shooting of Daunte Wright released

The black man who died during a traffic stop in Minnesota was fatally shot by an officer who mistook her gun for a Taser, officials said Monday, as they played body camera footage from the incident…

nypost.com

. Shows female officer thought she had a taser but had her service weapon. Big oops but if he complies he wouldn’t be dead right now . Not complying has it consequences.

Holy E.... FUCK..... Not good.

 

[LowRiver2]

Holy E.... FUCK..... Not good.

BART PD all over again
That’s a prison sentence
Tasers have only been around 20+ years to know the difference

 

[SBMech]

Holy E.... FUCK..... Not good.

BART PD all over again
That’s a prison sentence
Tasers have only been around 20+ years to know the difference

Haha fuck it....

Teach stupid assholes to be polite.

 

[just_floatin]

No Bueno.... homie would be alive if he did not make a run for it. Stupid games stupid prizes. Should have called his father not his mother......

 

[squeezer]

Holy E.... FUCK..... Not good.

BART PD all over again
That’s a prison sentence
Tasers have only been around 20+ years to know the difference

What does case law look like in situations like this? Not sure what the precedents are but that looks like a person making a mistake under a very high stress situation...


What really stood out at me while watching the video was the news story below. "Domino's customer points gun at workers because he couldnt get toppings on the side..."

Can anybody see a headline like that and argue that we dont have a gun problem in this country....??? Anybody....

 

[snowhammer]

Ban toppings!!

 

[LowRiver2]

What does case law look like in situations like this? Not sure what the precedents are but that looks like a person making a mistake under a very high stress situation...


What really stood out at me while watching the video was the news story below. "Domino's customer points gun at workers because he couldnt get toppings on the side..."



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Can anybody see a headline like that and argue that we dont have a gun problem in this country....??? Anybody....

Google BART shooting
Should summarize the case, outcome for all involved.

 

[t&y]

What does case law look like in situations like this? Not sure what the precedents are but that looks like a person making a mistake under a very high stress situation...

Look up shooting of Oscar Grant. That is the Bart PD officer involved shooting where the cop mistook his Gun for his Taser.

What really stood out at me while watching the video was the news story below. "Domino's customer points gun at workers because he couldnt get toppings on the side..."

Can anybody see a headline like that and argue that we dont have a gun problem in this country....??? Anybody....

Interesting question. Can you look at a headline of a person driving drunk and killing someone, then ask "Can anybody see a headline like that and argue that we dont have a vehicle problem in this country....??? Anybody...."

 

[wallnutz]

Can anybody see a headline like that and argue that we dont have a gun problem in this country....??? Anybody....

Yes we have a problem, turn yours in and I will feel a lot safer considering most of the shootings are by lefties.

 

[squeezer]

Look up shooting of Oscar Grant. That is the Bart PD officer involved shooting where the cop mistook his Gun for his Taser.




Interesting question. Can you look at a headline of a person driving drunk and killing someone, then ask "Can anybody see a headline like that and argue that we dont have a vehicle problem in this country....??? Anybody...."

It would exceed every hope and expectation if we regulated guns and gun owners in the same exact manner we regulate cars and drivers.

Training
Licensing
Registration
Insurance
Manufactures liability
Etc Etc


Great idea T&Y, how should we get started?

 

[94Nautique]

It would exceed every hope and expectation if we regulated guns and gun owners in the same exact manner we regulate cars and drivers.

Training
Licensing
Registration
Insurance
Manufactures liability
Etc Etc


Great idea T&Y, how should we get started?

First, take your car away.

Thats the same theory of gun control.

Thanks for playing.

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[t&y]

First, take your car away.

Thats the same theory of gun control.

Thanks for playing.

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hahahahahahahahahahaha.... Best part is he never saw it coming. Just wait until we start talking about constitutional rights.

 

[t&y]

It would exceed every hope and expectation if we regulated guns and gun owners in the same exact manner we regulate cars and drivers.

Training
Licensing
Registration
Insurance
Manufactures liability
Etc Etc


Great idea T&Y, how should we get started?

Hmmm Well lets see.

There are already extreme regulations on vehicles and how they are manufactured. There are extreme regulations on driving while intoxicated. But for some odd reason, people still drink alcohol, then drive drunk, and crash into other people killing them. Clearly this is a vehicle issue. So how do we regulate the vehicle better, so people don't drive drunk?

Can you list which vehicles we should ban to stop the epidemic?