A Message for Socialists in the US from a Socialist fleeing socialism

[DunePilot]

 

[530RL]

Unfortunately socialism and nationalist socialism is a widely favored view even in America.

Benji the Globalist Cuck

In case you haven’t heard, Blackrock is buying up houses, paying way over list because.................you’ll own nothing and like it. Great Reset Mouthpiece Faggot Benji

www.riverdavesplace.com

 

[DunePilot]

Unfortunately socialism and nationalist socialism is a widely favored view even in America.

Benji the Globalist Cuck

In case you haven’t heard, Blackrock is buying up houses, paying way over list because.................you’ll own nothing and like it. Great Reset Mouthpiece Faggot Benji

www.riverdavesplace.com

Perhaps. But I don't think it is as widely favored as the MSM would have us believe. It will be amazing when the people coming from socialist countries vote logically like the Puerto Ricans in Florida did.

 

[traquer]

Awesoem video, I will share it.

 

[Gelcoater]

Heard people talking on KPFK public radio today. Almost appalling to listen too, definitely sickening.
90.7 I believe for you so cal/IE folks.
This is one of the organizations they support.

 

[530RL]

Perhaps. But I don't think it is as widely favored as the MSM would have us believe. It will be amazing when the people coming from socialist countries vote logically like the Puerto Ricans in Florida did.

Liberals have always believed that more government regulation is the solution.

Unfortunately now we have former “conservatives” bemoaning people being able to sell their house for “way over list”.

Its a slippery slope to serfdom where free markets and capitalism can no longer decide when an individual can sell or not sell their house for whatever someone will pay.

I’m less optimistic than you for the future when “conservatives” start undermining free markets and capitalism and complain about the free market outcomes.

 

[DunePilot]

Liberals have always believed that more government regulation is the solution.

Unfortunately now we have former “conservatives” bemoaning people being able to sell their house for “way over list”.

Its a slippery slope to serfdom where free markets and capitalism can no longer decide when an individual can sell or not sell their house for whatever someone will pay.

I’m less optimistic than you for the future when “conservatives” start undermining free markets and capitalism and complain about the free market outcomes.

It does not matter who bemoans what.

As far as housing markets go, we have supply chain problems. We have a supply and demand problem. We have a LOT of foreign money coming in driving up prices IE manipulating the free market - we have no way of knowing if they are conservative or not.

Nothing lasts forever and this too will pass.

The fact remains that socialists and marxists living here, that want the US to go the same way, have no clue for what they are asking. It would be great to send them to the socialist crap hole of their choice for a year.

I really do believe that they think that they'll have a better life and be free of all responsibility of all kinds. Who doesn't want that? Poor ignorant souls.

 

[530RL]

It does not matter who bemoans what.

As far as housing markets go, we have supply chain problems. We have a supply and demand problem. We have a LOT of foreign money coming in driving up prices IE manipulating the free market - we have no way of knowing if they are conservative or not.

Nothing lasts forever and this too will pass.

The fact remains that socialists and marxists living here, that want the US to go the same way, have no clue for what they are asking. It would be great to send them to the socialist crap hole of their choice for a year.

I really do believe that they think that they'll have a better life and be free of all responsibility of all kinds. Who doesn't want that? Poor ignorant souls.

A seller should be free to sell to a buyer whether foreign or domestic. That is the free market. Secondly black stone capital who those bemoan is a US capitalistic enterprise.

Those bemoaning such sales and arguing that such sales are inconsistent with capitalism or that the government should dictate who a seller can or can not sell to is the direct road to nationalistic socialism.

 

[was thatguy]

A seller should be free to sell to a buyer whether foreign or domestic. That is the free market. Secondly black stone capital who those bemoan is a US capitalistic enterprise.

Those bemoaning such sales and arguing that such sales are inconsistent with capitalism or that the government should dictate who a seller can or can not sell to is the direct road to nationalistic socialism.

Are you bemoaning the bemoaners??

 

[regor]

Unfortunately socialism and nationalist socialism is a widely favored view even in America.

Benji the Globalist Cuck

In case you haven’t heard, Blackrock is buying up houses, paying way over list because.................you’ll own nothing and like it. Great Reset Mouthpiece Faggot Benji

www.riverdavesplace.com

hahaha a little Benji the globalist mouthpiece lover hahahahaha

Your butthurt keeps getting the best of you boy!!!

 

[DunePilot]

A seller should be free to sell to a buyer whether foreign or domestic.

Last I heard that is still the case or did I miss that memo?

 

[was thatguy]

Last I heard that is still the case or did I miss that memo?

SILENCE!!!!

 

[spectra3279]

Liberals have always believed that more government regulation is the solution.

Unfortunately now we have former “conservatives” bemoaning people being able to sell their house for “way over list”.

Its a slippery slope to serfdom where free markets and capitalism can no longer decide when an individual can sell or not sell their house for whatever someone will pay.

I’m less optimistic than you for the future when “conservatives” start undermining free markets and capitalism and complain about the free market outcomes.

Not so much what you sell it for but rather who you sell it to.

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[rmarion]

Whats your number???

 

[Wizard29]

A seller should be free to sell to a buyer whether foreign or domestic. That is the free market....

....that the government should dictate who a seller can or can not sell to is the direct road to nationalistic socialism.

Really? So arms and weapons manufacturers should be able to sell to whoever they want? Northrop Grumman should be able to sell F-35s to China if they want? Liquor stores should be able to sell to 12 year olds?

The point is the government controls certain types of sales as a matter of national security or societal stability.While home and property sales do not have such an obvious impact to national security or the stability of the country, if we continue to sell our land to the wrong people, it's eventually going to have a very negative impact on the country. We're seeing it already.

The government placing restrictions on certain types of sales isn't necessarily socialism. Provided it's done in the right places, it ensures the continuity of our economy and makes sure we're putting America first.

But being as reliant on China and other countries as you are for your living, I can see why you'd support the US selling out to those countries. To hell with what it ends up doing to this country, right?

 

[was thatguy]

Really? So arms and weapons manufacturers should be able to sell to whoever they want? Northrop Grumman should be able to sell F-35s to China if they want? Liquor stores should be able to sell to 12 year olds?

The point is the government controls certain types of sales as a matter of national security or societal stability.While home and property sales do not have such an obvious impact to national security or the stability of the country, if we continue to sell our land to the wrong people, it's eventually going to have a very negative impact on the country. We're seeing it already.

The government placing restrictions on certain types of sales isn't necessarily socialism. Provided it's done in the right places, it ensures the continuity of our economy and makes sure we're putting America first.

But being as reliant on China and other countries as you are for your living, I can see why you'd support the US selling out to those countries. To hell with what it ends up doing to this country, right?

You have to remember, that he has openly stated that business morals and personal ethics have no place in maximizing profits and providing the best return for investors.
He once related that early in his career he learned the hard way that if one is going to make profit the priority ( the requirement for his position), then that is what you must do, and the only guidance is margin and legality....
It’s exactly why his manufacturing base is in S Korea etc.
He says that the consumer wants shit cheap, and that’s how he supplies cheap stuff. He isn't wrong...but one can’t do this and be burdened with soul searching about the cost of that margin.
We have lots of anecdotes for this.
“selling you soul”
“Worshiping the dollar”
Etc.


“Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!
Whose heart hath ne’er within him burn’d,
As home his footsteps he hath turn’d,
From wandering on a foreign strand!
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim;
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust, from whence he sprung,
Unwept, unhonour’d, and unsung.”

Sir Walter Scott.

 

[regor]

Really? So arms and weapons manufacturers should be able to sell to whoever they want? Northrop Grumman should be able to sell F-35s to China if they want? Liquor stores should be able to sell to 12 year olds?

The point is the government controls certain types of sales as a matter of national security or societal stability.While home and property sales do not have such an obvious impact to national security or the stability of the country, if we continue to sell our land to the wrong people, it's eventually going to have a very negative impact on the country. We're seeing it already.

The government placing restrictions on certain types of sales isn't necessarily socialism. Provided it's done in the right places, it ensures the continuity of our economy and makes sure we're putting America first.

But being as reliant on China and other countries as you are for your living, I can see why you'd support the US selling out to those countries. To hell with what it ends up doing to this country, right?

He’s a Great Reset globalist mouthpiece, plain and simple.

You’ll own nothing and like it.

 

[530RL]

Really? So arms and weapons manufacturers should be able to sell to whoever they want? Northrop Grumman should be able to sell F-35s to China if they want? Liquor stores should be able to sell to 12 year olds?

The point is the government controls certain types of sales as a matter of national security or societal stability.While home and property sales do not have such an obvious impact to national security or the stability of the country, if we continue to sell our land to the wrong people, it's eventually going to have a very negative impact on the country. We're seeing it already.

The government placing restrictions on certain types of sales isn't necessarily socialism. Provided it's done in the right places, it ensures the continuity of our economy and makes sure we're putting America first.

But being as reliant on China and other countries as you are for your living, I can see why you'd support the US selling out to those countries. To hell with what it ends up doing to this country, right?

Regor was not talking about foreign buyers or sellers of arms but a US company buying US houses from US sellers.

His point was that this US company should not be allowed to do so. And anyone who supported a seller trying to get the highest dollar for his house even from a US buyer is a “cuck“. The government should intervene and prevent a seller from selling to a US company. I disagree as that is they type of restriction that a socialist country would implement.

With respect to the foreign comments, I find it ironic that those most vocally critical of China’s penchant for state control over the economic marketplace are the very same people arguing for more and more US government control over the US economic marketplace, of course for societal stability..........

 

[regor]

Regor was not talking about foreign buyers or sellers of arms but a US company buying US houses from US sellers.

His point was that this US company should not be allowed to do so. And anyone who supported a seller trying to get the highest dollar for his house even from a US buyer is a “cuck“. The government should intervene and prevent a seller from selling to a US company. I disagree as that is they type of restriction that a socialist country would implement.

With respect to the foreign comments, I find it ironic that those most vocally critical of China’s penchant for state control over the economic marketplace are the very same people arguing for more and more US government control over the US economic marketplace, of course for societal stability..........

“U.S. companies”

Well done my little puppet!!!

 

[530RL]

“U.S. companies”

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Well done my little puppet!!!

Well done indeed!!!!!!

 

[regor]

Well done indeed!!!!!!

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There’s a difference in those two pictures.

One man is telling the WCF to get fucked and the other runs it.

Yore too easy lil Benji, you and Jen should hang out!!!

 

[was thatguy]

There’s a difference in those two pictures.

One man is telling the WCF to get fucked and the other runs it.

Yore too easy lil Benji, you and Jen should hang out!!!

He doesn’t hang out with the “help”...

 

[530RL]

There’s a difference in those two pictures.

One man is telling the WCF to get fucked and the other runs it.

Yore too easy lil Benji, you and Jen should hang out!!!

Uh huh.

You mean the guy who has his and his families branded products manufactured in China and who primarily uses foreign capital providers for his US and foreign assets, yet convinces you into believing he is America first?

Denial, it’s not just a river in Egypt.

 

[BTR]

Perhaps. But I don't think it is as widely favored as the MSM would have us believe. It will be amazing when the people coming from socialist countries vote logically like the Puerto Ricans in Florida did.

You mean Cubans. Puerto Rico is a US territory.

 

[was thatguy]

Uh huh.

You mean the guy who has his and his families branded products manufactured in China and who primarily uses foreign capital providers for his US and foreign assets, yet convinces you into believing he is America first?

Denial, it’s not just a river in Egypt.

That’s you in that picture??

 

[DunePilot]

Back to BlackRock... Here's why I think it is not a good thing. When a big player comes in and disrupts the market, the free market no longer works. This is why we have anit-trust laws on the books since 1890. - The Sherman Act.

We shouldn't be mad at BlackRock for legally making a buck, we should be mad at the Fed's insane monetary policy which is driving down the cost of loans and creating a massive bubble.

Here is some interesting reading on BlackRock: you can draw your own conclusions.

https://thelibertydaily.com/yes-blackrocks-home-buying-spree-should-concern-you/

Looks like this home buying has been going on for a while. As far back as 2011.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/corporations-are-buying-houses-robbing-families-of-american-dream/amp/

Skip to 10 minutes 45 seconds: https://rumble.com/vieksh-the-plagu...dsouza-podcast-ep-109.html?mref=23gga&mrefc=3

 

[Christopher Lucero]

Really? So arms and weapons manufacturers should be able to sell to whoever they want? Northrop Grumman should be able to sell F-35s to China if they want? Liquor stores should be able to sell to 12 year olds?

The point is the government controls certain types of sales as a matter of national security or societal stability.While home and property sales do not have such an obvious impact to national security or the stability of the country, if we continue to sell our land to the wrong people, it's eventually going to have a very negative impact on the country. We're seeing it already.

The government placing restrictions on certain types of sales isn't necessarily socialism. Provided it's done in the right places, it ensures the continuity of our economy and makes sure we're putting America first.

But being as reliant on China and other countries as you are for your living, I can see why you'd support the US selling out to those countries. To hell with what it ends up doing to this country, right?

that is a damned interesting perspective, fraught with hazards on what is important at any particular moment.
regulatory whack-a-mole.
wait...regulatory? from a conservative opinion...
huh?

 

[530RL]

Back to BlackRock... Here's why I think it is not a good thing. When a big player comes in and disrupts the market, the free market no longer works. This is why we have anit-trust laws on the books since 1890. - The Sherman Act.

We shouldn't be mad at BlackRock for legally making a buck, we should be mad at the Fed's insane monetary policy which is driving down the cost of loans and creating a massive bubble.

Here is some interesting reading on BlackRock: you can draw your own conclusions.

https://thelibertydaily.com/yes-blackrocks-home-buying-spree-should-concern-you/

Looks like this home buying has been going on for a while. As far back as 2011.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/corporations-are-buying-houses-robbing-families-of-american-dream/amp/

Skip to 10 minutes 45 seconds: https://rumble.com/vieksh-the-plagu...dsouza-podcast-ep-109.html?mref=23gga&mrefc=3

Why is a big player seeing an opportunity and entering a market bad or antithetical to free markets.

They see an opportunity and believe they can pay up and still make money. Why isn’t that the exact function of free markets?

sellers were not getting full price prior to the entry of the big player. Now they are.

 

[Christopher Lucero]

Why is a big player seeing an opportunity and entering a market bad or antithetical to free markets.

They see an opportunity and believe they can pay up and still make money. Why isn’t that the exact function of free markets?

sellers were not getting full price prior to the entry of the big player. Now they are.

are we heading toward a discussion of the inequitable attributes of free market capitalism? this could be a watershed.

 

[regor]

Uh huh.

You mean the guy who has his and his families branded products manufactured in China and who primarily uses foreign capital providers for his US and foreign assets, yet convinces you into believing he is America first?

Denial, it’s not just a river in Egypt.

Equates a rich man borrowing money to home affordability for the middle class.

hahaha yore the best lil Benji!!

 

[regor]

Back to BlackRock... Here's why I think it is not a good thing. When a big player comes in and disrupts the market, the free market no longer works. This is why we have anit-trust laws on the books since 1890. - The Sherman Act.

We shouldn't be mad at BlackRock for legally making a buck, we should be mad at the Fed's insane monetary policy which is driving down the cost of loans and creating a massive bubble.

Here is some interesting reading on BlackRock: you can draw your own conclusions.

https://thelibertydaily.com/yes-blackrocks-home-buying-spree-should-concern-you/

Looks like this home buying has been going on for a while. As far back as 2011.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/corporations-are-buying-houses-robbing-families-of-american-dream/amp/

Skip to 10 minutes 45 seconds: https://rumble.com/vieksh-the-plagu...dsouza-podcast-ep-109.html?mref=23gga&mrefc=3

No, you should be mad at the globalists at Blackrock, they’re trying to F the middle class, low income renters and institute the Great Reset.

He’s a soulless globalist ghoul, have fun.

 

[was thatguy]

Equates a rich man borrowing money to home affordability for the middle class.

hahaha yore the best lil Benji!!

I thought it was the preface to his autobiography...

 

[regor]

I thought it was the preface to his autobiography...

Preparation H Chronicles

ORRRRRR

Writing Worthless Checks

 

[530RL]

No, you should be mad at the globalists at Blackrock, they’re trying to F the middle class, low income renters and institute the Great Reset.

He’s a soulless globalist ghoul, have fun.

The irony of course is that Trump and the black rock CEO are buddies and the Trump administration did take care of those soulless globalist buddies.

Private Inequity: How a Powerful Industry Conquered the Tax System

There were two weeks left in the Trump administration when the Treasury Department handed down a set of rules governing an obscure corner of the tax code. Overseen by a senior Treasury official whose previous job involved helping the wealthy avoid taxes, the new regulations represented a major...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Wizard29]

Regor was not talking about foreign buyers or sellers of arms but a US company buying US houses from US sellers.

His point was that this US company should not be allowed to do so. And anyone who supported a seller trying to get the highest dollar for his house even from a US buyer is a “cuck“. The government should intervene and prevent a seller from selling to a US company. I disagree as that is they type of restriction that a socialist country would implement.

With respect to the foreign comments, I find it ironic that those most vocally critical of China’s penchant for state control over the economic marketplace are the very same people arguing for more and more US government control over the US economic marketplace, of course for societal stability..........

But you do agree that in certain circumstances, government regulation of who can participate in some markets is appropriate.

 

[dnewps]

Why is a big player seeing an opportunity and entering a market bad or antithetical to free markets.

They see an opportunity and believe they can pay up and still make money. Why isn’t that the exact function of free markets?

sellers were not getting full price prior to the entry of the big player. Now they are.

Sorry to bitch slap your strict ideology that keeps you from thinking... this is not capitalism. Wise up! The fed is lending Blackrock money at a below market rate. Privatize the gain, socialize the loss. The seller is also not profiting...you have to live somewhere. Taxes for everywhere other than so cal is market based. We’re you dropped on your head? Your ignorance is Astounding! worse than a liberal because you can‘t think towards your core belief

 

[530RL]

Sorry to bitch slap your strict ideology that keeps you from thinking... this is not capitalism. Wise up! The fed is lending Blackrock money at a below market rate. Privatize the gain, socialize the loss. The seller is also not profiting...you have to live somewhere. Taxes for everywhere other than so cal is market based. We’re you dropped on your head? Your ignorance is Astounding! worse than a liberal because you can‘t think towards your core belief

The fed is not lending to black rock at below market rates. They are not a bank and do not have access to the fed window. The federal government is backing loans to their competitors, specifically individuals.

 

[dnewps]

Honestly @530RL you piss me off more that Jen, squeeze, and grads combined. With friends like you...who needs enemies. Fund buying in this nation with gubment funds is the definition of fascism. That’s your position

 

[dnewps]

The fed is not lending to black rock at below market rates. They are not a bank and do not have access to the fed window. The federal government is backing loans to their competitors, specifically individuals.

WRONG! Take a close look at market cap rates. Not 1 single private investor would be interested. Wake up BOOMER!

 

[dnewps]

Ask yourself a question...why is there no yield?

 

[dnewps]

 

[530RL]

Honestly @530RL you piss me off more that Jen, squeeze, and grads combined. With friends like you...who needs enemies. Fund buying in this nation with gubment funds is the definition of fascism. That’s your position

Black rock does not buy with government funds they buy with privately raised funds.

But step back for a second and look at your view. The government should regulate who can and who can not buy houses. They should prevent private equity such as black rock from being in the marketplace lowering the price a seller can get for their house. Why just regulate black rock? Why not every small buyer of rental properties as they all are just raising sales prices? Who should the government decide gets to buy a house and who doesn’t? Why should any of us get to buy a rental property if black rock can not as we are all raising the demand curve? And who in the government gets that power?

At the core the government saying that homesellers need to take less so other home buyers can buy for less. How is that not any different than the government raising taxes on some to subsidize housing for others via low income housing?

As opposed to more regulation as you propose why not less regulation. Is the supply/demand imbalance not due to the exact solution which you propose, more government regulation? Maybe if it didn’t take three years to permit a new subdivision and there were not massive taxes via tariffs on building supplies implemented by the government the supply and demand would be more in balance?

We agree there is a problem, your solution is more government, mine is less. They used to call such views as mine conservative.

 

[regor]

The irony of course is that Trump and the black rock CEO are buddies and the Trump administration did take care of those soulless globalist buddies.

Private Inequity: How a Powerful Industry Conquered the Tax System

There were two weeks left in the Trump administration when the Treasury Department handed down a set of rules governing an obscure corner of the tax code. Overseen by a senior Treasury official whose previous job involved helping the wealthy avoid taxes, the new regulations represented a major...

www.yahoo.com

The NYT via Yahoo..............TDS at it finest!!!

Does yore wife know yore posting down here again?

 

[pronstar]

Black Rock started amassing homes during and after the Great Recession.

All orchestrated by Trump LMFAO


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[Christopher Lucero]

As far as direct efforts to control housing prices among free market capitalism, I can say I have seen exactly zero instances where this does nothing less than create a favored 'lucky few' who get to buy under government controlled price.
The first one I ever came across was the city of Irvine's attempt to provide 'affordable' housing (woodbridge condos, near UCI). My recollection is that the condos sold new at $39k, but were immediately worth nearly $100k on the open market. Lucky buyers either sold or used their new leverage to buy more of the affordable units. Eventually the irvine company caught on and quit trying to do social engineering. This was in the early 70's.

Recently, in my city, local government donated land and materials to build affordable housing for veterans.. a noble pursuit. Yet, the same outcome...lucky buyers wanted to cash in almost immediately....the city and homes4families put restrictions on resales and they are not trying it again. (I will go look for the news story)
I cannot find successful regulation of free market forces in the consumer housing market. Perhaps there is need for restriction on who can amass what percentage of local or national housing....as a security issue...but it seems antithetical to the typical conservative POV. It also seems to be a way to create a favored few at the expense of the many (like when a city donates property and materials). Not always wrong, but definitely socialist move.

here's a snap of the current zillow page of the locale. a recent sale was restricted to $410k even though comps are around $150k more than that. (note: sales shown at $286k because that is the 'standard' first sale price through the non-profit.)
the weird pricing here artificially depresses resale values for the wider locale's other owners of 4bd/3ba homes locally and confounds the true free market valuations that zillow models its predictions on.

here's a current snap of the woodbridge condos...notice anything? seems to me the map is hosed, lots of blank valuations...an attribute similar to the unpriced homes in the homes4families development near me. that means (to me) free market capitalism may be broken there.
Woodbridge development in Irvine has surrounding homes (SFRs) are nearing $2M. damned socialists.

 

[boatdoc55]

The NYT via Yahoo..............TDS at it finest!!!

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Does yore wife know yore posting down here again?

I'm sure he got Jeff's OK!!

 

[was thatguy]

I'm sure he got Jeff's OK!!

Oh snap!!!

 

[Christopher Lucero]

We agree there is a problem, your solution is more government, mine is less. They used to call such views as mine conservative.

if I may, and respectfully in agreement with you, it may be a security control to let prices rise, perhaps by alot, to prevent foreign actors or concerns from acquisition of US territory or to encourage private equity to properly value or take on the risk of overvaluation in the housing market rather than private individuals.
the 2008 foldback was fueled by a number of financial factors and many honest Americans suffered - lost homes, life savings invested in their dream homes. an old girfriend of mine was one of them. similar to the way Bear Stearns took the hit for a big chunk of the damage because they took risk (read Cohan's book), these private equity investments may also be opportunists that could end up being on the wrong side of a trade. risk/return. capitalism at its essential best

 

[regor]

And his defense comes full circle.....

 

[was thatguy]

And his defense comes full circle.....

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It’s almost as though he’s a shareholder...