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Apparently suits about nothing are not allowed.

The Court didn’t even reach the question of whether or not the ex-mandate is constitutional. In a 7-2 ruling written by liberal Justice Stephen Breyer, the Court ruled that no one is allowed to bring suit to challenge a provision of law that does nothing. Four Republican appointees — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett — joined Breyer’s opinion.

 

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Apparently suits about nothing are not allowed.

The Court didn’t even reach the question of whether or not the ex-mandate is constitutional. In a 7-2 ruling written by liberal Justice Stephen Breyer, the Court ruled that no one is allowed to bring suit to challenge a provision of law that does nothing. Four Republican appointees — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett — joined Breyer’s opinion.

They will eventually get the procedure right. Not everyone wants to be a socialist.
 

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Apparently suits about nothing are not allowed.

The Court didn’t even reach the question of whether or not the ex-mandate is constitutional. In a 7-2 ruling written by liberal Justice Stephen Breyer, the Court ruled that no one is allowed to bring suit to challenge a provision of law that does nothing. Four Republican appointees — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett — joined Breyer’s opinion.



SC is Just another part of the swamp .
 

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Apparently suits about nothing are not allowed.

The Court didn’t even reach the question of whether or not the ex-mandate is constitutional. In a 7-2 ruling written by liberal Justice Stephen Breyer, the Court ruled that no one is allowed to bring suit to challenge a provision of law that does nothing. Four Republican appointees — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett — joined Breyer’s opinion.

And?
 

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It's what happens when insurance companies don't manage themselves. Healthcare is a mess thanks to lobbyists.

So you feel post obama care that mess is cleaned up now and on the right path?
 

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Apparently suits about nothing are not allowed.

The Court didn’t even reach the question of whether or not the ex-mandate is constitutional. In a 7-2 ruling written by liberal Justice Stephen Breyer, the Court ruled that no one is allowed to bring suit to challenge a provision of law that does nothing. Four Republican appointees — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett — joined Breyer’s opinion.

It's what happens when insurance companies don't manage themselves. Healthcare is a mess thanks to lobbyists.

Standing. Chuckle. The Feckless SC totally ignores the violation of the Commerce clause, uses IRS not enforcing the Obamacare Penalty in order to justify this decsion. No big surprise there. Right? Doesn't change a thing. Healthcare is a mess. Totally agree. Cheers and Arrogant Bastard Ale's all around.

The Drafters of the Obamacare Legislation were so arrogant, the ACA has a provision that if any one part of the ACA is struck down, the entire Act is null and void.
Almost like somebody knew something.
 

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No, not even close. It is a step in the right direction.
Such a great piece of legislation it was passed with zero Republican votes and is unconstitutional .
The Obamacare "Tax" That Chief Justice Roberts Invented Is Still Unconstitutional

As we all know, two years ago, Chief Justice John Roberts changed the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate into a tax and thus rescued President Obama’s signature legislation. What you may not know is that with this slight of hand—or flick of the wrist—he actually sent Obamacare flying from the constitutional frying pan into the constitutional fire
 

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It's what happens when insurance companies don't manage themselves. Healthcare is a mess thanks to lobbyists.
Do you work in Healthcare, like in the field? There was very little wrong with Healthcare system, if you had it you got most of the bill covered, if you didn't you are on the hook. I unfortunately had to sign up for obama care for 1 year, for that year myself nor my family could see a Dr. there were no doctors or urgent cares that accepted any of the plans only emergency rooms, my son has asthma and we couldn'tget his inhaler refilled, good thing we didn't have an issue (yup that sounds like a step in the right direction🖕👎👎). Nobody got a yearly physical that year, lots of shit can happen in 2 years.


FUCK obama CARE FUCK SOCIALIST MEDICINE AND FUCK liberals🖕🖕
 

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It's what happens when insurance companies don't manage themselves. Healthcare is a mess thanks to lobbyists.

While this is true Jen, you conveniently left out the second factor in the equation, the guberment that colludes with the lobbyists to create the mess.

Get rid of both for the individuals that actually desire a better level of healthcare and pay for it and leave the guberment in charge of the individuals that don't. And if they don't, they get what they get and it sure as hell shouldn't be anything comparable to the individuals that are willing to pay.
 

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Go ahead and explain how current (not 20 years ago) Kaiser Permanente system is wrong?
Step by step

It’s private, yet is one of the most sustainable plans out there

Perfect? Hell no. But not socialist people dying in the ER bad , nor heavy deductible on every fucking visit, prescription either .

And explain to us for bonus points why wealthy Canadians come to the US for complicated surgeries when they have socialized medicine?
There is still some issues with Kaiser, I'm going to battle when I get home. But as a whole they are way better than they were 20+ years ago, we used to call them " Killer Kaiser".
 

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While this is true Jen, you conveniently left out the second factor in the equation, the guberment that colludes with the lobbyists to create the mess.

Get rid of both for the individuals that actually desire a better level of healthcare and pay for it and leave the guberment in charge of the individuals that don't. And if they don't, they get what they get and it sure as hell shouldn't be anything comparable to the individuals that are willing to pay.
RACIST!!!!!!
 

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There is still some issues with Kaiser, I'm going to battle when I get home. But as a whole they are way better than they were 20+ years ago, we used to call them " Killer Kaiser".
that entirely depends on what plan you had with them. my Kaiser Ins 20 years ago was WAY better than the kaiser plan i have now.
 

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that entirely depends on what plan you had with them. my Kaiser Ins 20 years ago was WAY better than the kaiser plan i have now.
I was taking people into the ER, but I had Kaiser growing up (K coverage, mom was an employee) and they were an absolute shit show. Right now we can't get specialists to do anything my son's allergies are killing him right now and they said he doesn't need to be allergy tested, this covid bullshit is taking Kaiser back 30 years, they need to stop with this no in-person visits quit using covid as an excuse to not do their job.
 

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Very true
IMHO it is the model that will work to be financially sustainable, and leave the rich the right to buy better care

Fellow Tech’s wife is a “boutique” Dr
Gets paid north of $400k a year to answer the wealthy 24/7, 90% of it is over the phone basic stuff, but all about the convenience

Or go make $90K as a Dr. for Kaiser.
 

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Dude:

midwife nurses are making north of $280k a year

Might want to do a little research on KP pay scales
Did I mention KP Dr’s have pensions?
Facts

I know 2 DRs that started with Kaiser at $90k . SIL also works there. I didn’t say 90k was the celling...
 

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Do you really want the government to run the healthcare system? Have you ever been to the DMV or an unemployment office?

I rest my case.
He works at one of them, he thinks it’s a good thing... 🤦‍♂️
 

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Do you work in Healthcare, like in the field? There was very little wrong with Healthcare system, if you had it you got most of the bill covered, if you didn't you are on the hook. I unfortunately had to sign up for obama care for 1 year, for that year myself nor my family could see a Dr. there were no doctors or urgent cares that accepted any of the plans only emergency rooms, my son has asthma and we couldn'tget his inhaler refilled, good thing we didn't have an issue (yup that sounds like a step in the right direction🖕👎👎). Nobody got a yearly physical that year, lots of shit can happen in 2 years.

FUCK obama CARE FUCK SOCIALIST MEDICINE AND FUCK liberals🖕🖕
Yes, the one with the brains.

While this is true Jen, you conveniently left out the second factor in the equation, the guberment that colludes with the lobbyists to create the mess.

Get rid of both for the individuals that actually desire a better level of healthcare and pay for it and leave the guberment in charge of the individuals that don't. And if they don't, they get what they get and it sure as hell shouldn't be anything comparable to the individuals that are willing to pay.

I didn't leave out shit. When I said lobbyists, that means all.
 

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Go ahead and explain how current (not 20 years ago) Kaiser Permanente system is wrong?
Step by step

It’s private, yet is one of the most sustainable plans out there

Perfect? Hell no. But not socialist people dying in the ER bad , nor heavy deductible on every fucking visit, prescription either .

And explain to us for bonus points why wealthy Canadians come to the US for complicated surgeries when they have socialized medicine?

Never said it wasn't. KP is a very different model and has its place in providing care. I choose not to use it for reasons that have been alluded to already. It is a sustainable model that is obviously growing. It is good that people have choices and that different models can compete.

As for compensation that others have mentioned, they pay well. They are not required to grind like may other docs, especially surgeons, specialists and other ancillaries.
 
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