I love Southern California.

[Not So Fast]

Born and raised there, on the plus side the weather, location and things to do, it does have everything or at least a lot of things going for it, I used to love it living in Orange Co and San Diego Co, my God its a beautiful place with the mountians and oceans at your beckon call, absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But enter the politics and the glamour rapidly disappears plus the population mix has become a giant no for me.
After living there for nearly 60 years it became unbearable, at least to me so we moved to Arizona 20 years ago and havent looked back, good move, I dont know but I believe so after reading what is happening there nowadays. If you dont know what Im talking about then you aint paying attention or just blind to it.
I ll take this backwoods little town of Havasu, which has its drawbacks no doubt but In my opinion I prefer living here.
So if you like So Cal please stay there, or dont bring your politics with you when you come
PEACE
NSF

 

[Cole Trickle]

I’ll leave California, when the ocean currents carry my ashes to Mexico and beyond.

Currents???

You are already living in Mexico brother...lol

 

[Bobby V]

Hello RodnJen.

Rod just saw this and texted "Thanks for the Shoutout".

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Rod just saw this and texted "Thanks for the Shoutout".

I just sent him the tax bill.

 

[Danger Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552033998381076480

 

[bilz]

Shabarum park.. Cold Duck playing. Cool breeze everyone is pretty mellow. One thing I noticed, LaHabra Heights starts their concerts with The National Anthem and Flag Salute. Whittier does the Flag Salute. Shabarum park doesn't do any, LA County Board of Supv. are bullshit. Oh yeah about 72 right now.

 

[Bobby V]

Shabarum park.. Cold Duck playing. Cool breeze everyone is pretty mellow. One thing I noticed, LaHabra Heights starts their concerts with The National Anthem and Flag Salute. Whittier does the Flag Salute. Shabarum park doesn't do any, LA County Board of Supv. are bullshit. Oh yeah about 72 right now. View attachment 1141465

Isn’t La Habra Heights and Whittier in LA County? A guy at work went to a concert in the park in LaMirada tonight. 3 bands playing at once in different Parts of the park.

 

[bilz]

Yes they are, but incorporated cities. La mirada park is cool, but Cold Duck has been together in some form for 40 years. Me and my friends will do 3-4 nights if concerts when we can't make the river. Wife and oldest are at James Taylor at kleopto in dtla.
Politics aside so much to do here.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Horrible day yesterday Cruisin PCH with a couple of Mopar buddies. I don't know why I stay here...

 

[Danger Dave]

BREAKING NEWS! 2022 RED BULL STRAIGHT RHYTHM IS HEADED TO HUNTINGTON BEACH
The fan-favorite Red Bull Straight Rhythm is headed to the beach after a two-year-hiatus. The event will consist of 32 riders on two-strokes going head-to-head racing on a half-mile rhythm course on the sandy coast of Huntington Beach. Plus, this years event will consist of happen alongside of the inaugural Roland Sands Design’s Moto Beach Classic.

2022 RED BULL STRAIGHT RHYTHM SCHEDULE – OCTOBER 15th, 2022

10AM – Gates open
10AM – 11:30PM – Red Bull Straight Rhythm & Moto Beach Classic practice/qualifying
12PM – 2:30PM – Moto Beach Classic
3:00PM – 5:30PM – Red Bull Straight Rhythm
6:30PM – Gates close

The inaugural Moto Beach Classic started out as a wild idea from Roland Sands and crew in 2017 and has developed into a Southern California motorcycle cultural explosion. From massive concerts to racing on the sand in Huntington Beach, the MBC has always delivered the unexpected in the heart of Southern California surf culture. This year is no different. For the first time ever, Moto Beach Classic and Red Bull Straight Rhythm are joining forces for fans to experience both iconic events on LIVE and in-person on October 15, 2022 in Huntington Beach, California. If you’ve never been to Roland Sands Design’s Moto Beach Classic, prepare yourself for feeling as close to the racing as you can get without being part of the action yourself. Stay tuned for an insane amount of two wheeled action and good times for all! Go to Motobeachclassic.com for racing and vending information.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Quick trip down to the Huntington Dog beach this morning. It was a struggle finding 5 feet of beach among the legions of bums everywhere.

72 degrees of perfect weather "again...".


Temperatures today -> 3:21 pm

Palm Springs, Ca 110
Parker 109
Lake Havasu City 108
Phoenix 107
Death Valley Ca 104
Vegas 101
Dallas TX 98

Corona Ca 95
Fullerton Ca 90
Huntington beach Ca 78
Carlsbad Ca 74

 

[Done-it-again]

^^^^
its the dog beach and always empty compared to the shit show down at the public non dog beach.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Quick trip down to the Huntington Dog beach this morning. It was a struggle finding 5 feet of beach among the legions of bums everywhere.

72 degrees of perfect weather "again...".


Temperatures today -> 3:21 pm

Palm Springs, Ca 110
Parker 109
Lake Havasu City 108
Phoenix 107
Death Valley Ca 104
Vegas 101
Dallas TX 98

Corona Ca 95
Fullerton Ca 90
Huntington beach Ca 78
Carlsbad Ca 74

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Lol why would the bums be down by dog beach? They are over by the pier panhandling where the people are. Come on….

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Lol why would the bums be down by dog beach? They are over by the pier panhandling where the people are. Come on….

I read on Riverdaves that the bums are everywhere. No exclusions.... I think I saw 3 bums total today, I drove from Dog beach down PCH to Beach blvd. Granted, I'm not driving down alleys or dumpster digging, but maybe many riverdavers are....?

 

[buck35]

I read on Riverdaves that the bums are everywhere. No exclusions.... I think I saw 3 bums total today, I drove from Dog beach down PCH to Beach blvd. Granted, I'm not driving down alleys or dumpster digging, but maybe many riverdavers are....?

Well our dogs are a 125+ so yrmv. Hahaha

 

[Danger Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1555979239144448001

 

[zhandfull]

Change of scenery this month. Trying Hobson camping. Sorry if the picture is bad, think I damaged my camera on

the iPhone.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Spent some time in Parker the last few days! But man it does look a lot nicer on the California side!

 

[Sharp Shooter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1555979239144448001

First off who the fuck is Michael Shellenberger? 2nd, why are you posting his alleged friend's gay drama in here? How do we know the naked man isn't Michael Shellenberger's friend's gay lover and that and he's just trying to get back at him? He states, "this is the new normal in L.A." and you believe him...?

Could you be more gullible?

 

[t&y]

First off who the fuck is Michael Shellenberger? 2nd, why are you posting his alleged friend's gay drama in here? How do we know the naked man isn't Michael Shellenberger's friend's gay lover and that and he's just trying to get back at him? He states, "this is the new normal in L.A." and you believe him...?

Could you be more gullible?

Yeah, I'll call bullshit on that one too. Naked dude or Chick walking around in a house they are not supposed to be in with only a hospital bracelet is not getting ignored by even the most lazy PD out there.

As for the Bums.... open your eyes dude. There is zero denying what California is turning into and they are EVERYWHERE. Sure if you are in a high dollar area or city there might be codes in place that the City has actually told their PD they want it enforced, but they are still there, just not on every major sidewalk. I wish it were not true.

 

[Clank123]

Quick trip down to the Huntington Dog beach this morning. It was a struggle finding 5 feet of beach among the legions of bums everywhere.

72 degrees of perfect weather "again...".


Temperatures today -> 3:21 pm

Palm Springs, Ca 110
Parker 109
Lake Havasu City 108
Phoenix 107
Death Valley Ca 104
Vegas 101
Dallas TX 98

Corona Ca 95
Fullerton Ca 90
Huntington beach Ca 78
Carlsbad Ca 74

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Carlsbad 74…noted
Great shots!

 

[jet496]

I was born & raised in Iowa only to find San Diego when I was 18 going to boot camp. Loved it then & still do. I don't understand why the state is so far left, bat-ass crazy, because 90% of the people we know & run into are normal minded people who don't buy into how much the gov't loves them, how they have the people & climate in their best interest.

Anyway, we're going to have breakfast at the beach today & then some of the best BBQ around, at Valley Farm Outpost, in the Laguna Mountains this afternoon. In Iowa, it's hot, humid & storming as I type this but 72 degrees & sunny as always here.

Just sayin' ,

 

[Sharp Shooter]

As for the Bums.... open your eyes dude. There is zero denying what California is turning into and they are EVERYWHERE. Sure if you are in a high dollar area or city there might be codes in place that the City has actually told their PD they want it enforced, but they are still there, just not on every major sidewalk. I wish it were not true.

I've lived in Southern California since 1967. There's always been bums here just like every other state and city. Has the problem worsened because our politicians are horrible? Certainly! As I've said before, I don't go into the bowels of every city searching for all the bums nor do I ever plan to. Just going about my life, they aren't a problem in the areas I frequent. If I were a cop on patrol in downtown L.A. I'd probably be fed up. The place I've seen the most bums in the last 5 years was actually Honolulu.

 

[caribbean20]

Yup, sure does suck here

We have a vacation joint in the South Bay, call it “the bubble.” Regarding the subject of the homeless situation, really don’t see much, if any. I’m sure most cities have laws on the books regarding overnight structures. Is it so simple that the beach cities enforce these rules, the so-called “high dollar areas,” and others do not? Innocent question, I don’t know the facts.

We NEVER see tents overnight on the beach or in the parks. I can say my neighbors and us respect and appreciate our professional police officers.

Today.

 

[Danger Dave]

"
There were 4 people shot in Mission Beach last night, what used to be a normal beach, tourist, partying place but last few years thugs are everywhere. And before people start preaching how people with tats, and people without money need to be accepted, we're talking about thugs, gang banging, white, black or brown, tattoos or no tattoos, POS's. Big difference between thugs & people who just aren't the norm.
There were several shootings at the Coaster on the boardwalk not too long ago. They harass, talk shit & cause trouble every day. Had a dude last week who looked straight out of Compton, walking down the boardwalk, blasting a 3 foot long boom box as loud as he could, chomping on a cigar, top hat, & looking straight into every persons eyes as he walks by them looking for some shit. This is the new norm & anybody saying we need to be tolerant is a dumbass.

Time to put these Mofos back in place. I'd be cool with the gangsters if they wouldn't cause shit & shoot people, but...." - Jet496

 

[Sharp Shooter]

"
There were 4 people shot in Mission Beach last night, what used to be a normal beach, tourist, partying place but last few years thugs are everywhere. And before people start preaching how people with tats, and people without money need to be accepted, we're talking about thugs, gang banging, white, black or brown, tattoos or no tattoos, POS's. Big difference between thugs & people who just aren't the norm.
There were several shootings at the Coaster on the boardwalk not too long ago. They harass, talk shit & cause trouble every day. Had a dude last week who looked straight out of Compton, walking down the boardwalk, blasting a 3 foot long boom box as loud as he could, chomping on a cigar, top hat, & looking straight into every persons eyes as he walks by them looking for some shit. This is the new norm & anybody saying we need to be tolerant is a dumbass.

Time to put these Mofos back in place. I'd be cool with the gangsters if they wouldn't cause shit & shoot people, but...." - Jet496

You better stay alert. People are shot all over this nation on a daily basis. It's just something we all have to live with.....

 

[angiebaby]

I've lived in Southern California since 1967. There's always been bums here just like every other state and city. Has the problem worsened because our politicians are horrible? Certainly! As I've said before, I don't go into the bowels of every city searching for all the bums nor do I ever plan to. Just going about my life, they aren't a problem in the areas I frequent. If I were a cop on patrol in downtown L.A. I'd probably be fed up. The place I've seen the most bums in the last 5 years was actually Honolulu.

There are not bums in every other state and city.

 

[Cole Trickle]

There are not bums in every other state and city.

I mean technically they are in every state CA just wins by a landslide.....lol

Leave Jerry alone he lives in his own world and loves his bubble.

CSV JSON

State	Total Homeless	Homeless Households	Veterans	Young Adults
California	161,548	7,044	10,980	11,993
New York	91,271	15,091	1,270	2,978
Florida	27,487	2,171	2,472	1,450
Texas	27,229	1,919	1,806	1,355
Washington	22,923	1,751	1,585	1,911
Massachusetts	17,975	3,766	917	480
Oregon	14,655	1,147	1,438	1,590
Pennsylvania	13,375	1,569	857	737
Arizona	10,979	745	910	587
Ohio	10,655	999	676	643
Illinois	10,431	1,105	690	609
Georgia	10,234	815	801	596
Colorado	9,846	719	1,068	545
New Jersey	9,662	993	551	496
North Carolina	9,280	767	907	417
Michigan	8,638	1,022	599	489
Minnesota	7,940	1,028	297	685
Tennessee	7,256	558	679	366
Nevada	6,900	183	674	1,285
Missouri	6,527	707	488	477
Hawaii	6,458	539	505	222
Maryland	6,360	603	490	290
Virginia	5,957	652	447	258
Indiana	5,625	544	572	258
Wisconsin	4,515	592	359	200
South Carolina	4,287	275	462	216
Kentucky	4,011	313	447	211
Oklahoma	3,932	300	280	322
Alabama	3,351	236	292	320
New Mexico	3,333	246	257	216
Louisiana	3,173	170	360	188
Utah	3,131	260	211	163
Connecticut	2,905	305	195	196
Iowa	2,647	227	149	146
Kansas	2,449	209	189	122
Nebraska	2,404	201	175	151
Arkansas	2,366	132	238	336
Idaho	2,315	243	201	188
Maine	2,097	283	116	125
Alaska	1,949	161	111	176
New Hampshire	1,675	206	113	84
Montana	1,545	136	205	82
West Virginia	1,341	79	137	89
Delaware	1,165	116	65	42
Vermont	1,110	128	87	105
Mississippi	1,107	69	72	56
Rhode Island	1,104	111	92	26
South Dakota	1,058	76	66	66
Wyoming	612	37	51	81
North Dakota	541	51	49	72

 

[Tank]

I mean, there is something to be said for the weather. Lol

 

[timstoy]

Chicago weekend scorecard, 53 shot, 7 fatal. All black on black. You won’t hear this on network TV but about a normal weekend in Chicago.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

There are not bums in every other state and city.

You're pretty vocal against CA, what state do you live in?

 

[Sharp Shooter]

I mean technically they are in every state CA just wins by a landslide.....lol

Leave Jerry alone he lives in his own world and loves his bubble.

CSV JSON

State	Total Homeless	Homeless Households	Veterans	Young Adults
California	161,548	7,044	10,980	11,993
New York	91,271	15,091	1,270	2,978
Florida	27,487	2,171	2,472	1,450
Texas	27,229	1,919	1,806	1,355
Washington	22,923	1,751	1,585	1,911
Massachusetts	17,975	3,766	917	480
Oregon	14,655	1,147	1,438	1,590
Pennsylvania	13,375	1,569	857	737
Arizona	10,979	745	910	587
Ohio	10,655	999	676	643
Illinois	10,431	1,105	690	609
Georgia	10,234	815	801	596
Colorado	9,846	719	1,068	545
New Jersey	9,662	993	551	496
North Carolina	9,280	767	907	417
Michigan	8,638	1,022	599	489
Minnesota	7,940	1,028	297	685
Tennessee	7,256	558	679	366
Nevada	6,900	183	674	1,285
Missouri	6,527	707	488	477
Hawaii	6,458	539	505	222
Maryland	6,360	603	490	290
Virginia	5,957	652	447	258
Indiana	5,625	544	572	258
Wisconsin	4,515	592	359	200
South Carolina	4,287	275	462	216
Kentucky	4,011	313	447	211
Oklahoma	3,932	300	280	322
Alabama	3,351	236	292	320
New Mexico	3,333	246	257	216
Louisiana	3,173	170	360	188
Utah	3,131	260	211	163
Connecticut	2,905	305	195	196
Iowa	2,647	227	149	146
Kansas	2,449	209	189	122
Nebraska	2,404	201	175	151
Arkansas	2,366	132	238	336
Idaho	2,315	243	201	188
Maine	2,097	283	116	125
Alaska	1,949	161	111	176
New Hampshire	1,675	206	113	84
Montana	1,545	136	205	82
West Virginia	1,341	79	137	89
Delaware	1,165	116	65	42
Vermont	1,110	128	87	105
Mississippi	1,107	69	72	56
Rhode Island	1,104	111	92	26
South Dakota	1,058	76	66	66
Wyoming	612	37	51	81
North Dakota	541	51	49	72

The state with the highest population also has the most homeless.... Shocking. Like I said many times already, find me a state that better serves my hobbies and interests and I'll consider moving there.


Top 10 States by Population 2022

1. California (Population: 39,613,493)
2. Texas (Population: 29,730,311)
3. Florida (Population: 21,944,577)
4. New York (Population: 19,299,981)
5. Pennsylvania (Population: 12,804,123)
6. Illinois (Population: 12,569,321)
7. Ohio (Population: 11,714,618)
8. Georgia (Population: 10,830,007)
9. North Carolina (Population: 10,701,022)
10. Michigan (Population: 9,992,427)

 

[Bobby V]

You're pretty vocal against CA, what state do you live in?

AZ, NV, ID and MT...

 

[Cole Trickle]

The state with the highest population also has the most homeless.... Shocking. Like I said many times already, find me a state that better serves my hobbies and interests and I'll consider moving there.


Top 10 States by Population 2022

1. California (Population: 39,613,493)
2. Texas (Population: 29,730,311)
3. Florida (Population: 21,944,577)
4. New York (Population: 19,299,981)
5. Pennsylvania (Population: 12,804,123)
6. Illinois (Population: 12,569,321)
7. Ohio (Population: 11,714,618)
8. Georgia (Population: 10,830,007)
9. North Carolina (Population: 10,701,022)
10. Michigan (Population: 9,992,427)

lol...ok

Yeah CA has alot of people. They also have close to 1/3 of the entire countries homeless.

Texas has 30 million people and only 27k homeless.

Nobody that left CA left because the weather sucked. We left because the politics, taxes and cost no longer pencil and for the most part it's a shit place to raise kids.

 

[Tooms22]

lol...ok

Yeah CA has alot of people. They also have close to 1/3 of the entire countries homeless.

Texas has 30 million people and only 27k homeless.

Nobody that left CA left because the weather sucked. We left because the politics, taxes and cost no longer pencil and for the most part it's a shit place to raise kids.

I was wondering why he posted numbers that hurt his argument.

Good weather > Math

 

[Sharp Shooter]

lol...ok

Yeah CA has alot of people. They also have close to 1/3 of the entire countries homeless.

Texas has 30 million people and only 27k homeless.

Nobody that left CA left because the weather sucked. We left because the politics, taxes and cost no longer pencil and for the most part it's a shit place to raise kids.

Don’t leave out the fact that most people just hide inside their air conditioned houses and don’t take full advantage of all this state has to offer. Driving to and from work with the masses in horrible traffic and weekends playing fantasy sports from the couch. Why not move if thats their lives….

That’s certainly not how I do it.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

I was wondering why he posted numbers that hurt his argument.

Good weather > Math

Another fantasy sports athlete I presume.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

You guys know that California has other areas beside LA, San Francisco, and the OC right? Lots of people still live in this state and don’t deal with the dreaded traffic you all fear sooo much and it’s not from their couch or from behind a keyboard!

Didn’t I already make the I hate California thread for all you cry baby’s?

Go bump that thread again and don’t forget to ad the car accident the lady from Texas caused!

 

[angiebaby]

You're pretty vocal against CA, what state do you live in?

California is a beautiful state with way too many people for me. I lived there from 1984-2014. We had a beautiful 12-acre ranch that got surrounded by crappy tract homes. Then they ran the storm drain from those crappy tract homes through part of our property via eminent domain. It took thirty minutes to drive 3 miles from our ranch to the interstate. Our water bill went from $150/mo to $700/mo in 8 years with less than half the amount being watered. It was 3 hours of traffic to the mountains or the beach and all were fully booked from April - October. There was no escape from the heat in the summer, though I'm told California has great weather. (I know, in a few places it does, but I would argue the majority of the state does not). We realized it was no longer the place for us, even though it was Sportin' Wood's childhood home. So we left and have not regretted it. But I'm very glad that so many people love it and want to stay. Again, it's a beautiful state, just too crowded, IMO.

To answer your question, Dan, I live in Western Montana and spend the winters in Arizona.

Regardless, there are not bums panhandling and living in tent cities in every city. I saw one panhandler in Havasu last winter. I remember noticing him because I had not seen one since we left Reno the previous June. I saw another one here in Montana over Independence Day. She was way too clean to be homeless, just a beggar. It didn't look like she was having much luck. Having spent considerable time in Coeur d'Alene, Sandpoint, Moab, Hurricane/St. George, Havasu, Cottonwood AZ, Cortez and Durango CO, and around Flathead Lake MT, this past year, I can tell you, there are not bums in every city. Granted, there are probably homeless people, but you don't see them regularly on streetcorners and freeway off-ramps like you do in California. There are no tent cities in any of those places. That was my point. Thank you for allowing me to clarify it.

It's important to enjoy where you live. I'm glad that you do. We no longer did. That's why we left.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Don’t leave out the fact that most people just hide inside their air conditioned houses and don’t take full advantage of all this state has to offer. Driving to and from work with the masses in horrible traffic and weekends playing fantasy sports from the couch. Why not move if thats their lives….

That’s certainly not how I do it.

Yep just sitting on the couch playing fantasy sports…lol

Or a car cruise to the north rim of the Grand Canyon or maybe a float down a river with the family or perhaps golf or soccer with the kid up north. Can’t forget good old garage time with my son working on his miata.

We try to stay pretty active even though the weather is terrible

 

[lbhsbz]

Southern California is not on this list from the Real Estate doom and gloom thread so at least while we might still live in this shithole, we don't have to tighten our hats or hold onto our belts..

Housing Markets Most at Risk of a Correction​

Boise City ID
Colorado Springs CO
Las Vegas NV
Phoenix AZ
Coeur d’Alene ID
Tampa FL
Atlanta GA
Fort Collins CO
Sherman TX
Jacksonville FL
Idaho Falls ID
Lakeland FL
Greeley CO
Longview WA
Charleston SC
Albany OR
Denver CO
Clarksville TN
Greensboro NC
Charlotte NC
In red-hot Boise, home prices are apparently 73% above what the fundamentals support, which clearly isn’t good.
Other hot spots include Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tampa, Atlanta, and Denver.
Pueblo CO
Brunswick GA
Albany OR
Austin TX
Dallas TX
Lake Havasu City AZ
Myrtle Beach SC
Tyler TX
Miami FL
Reno NV
Nashville TN
Bellingham WA
Muskegon MI
Sarasota FL
Weirton OH
Ogden UT
Prescott AZ
Boulder CO
Gainesville GA
Carson City NV

 

[Heylam]

The more the disenchanted leave, the better California gets.

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Yep just sitting on the couch playing fantasy sports…lol

Or a car cruise to the north rim of the Grand Canyon or maybe a float down a river with the family or perhaps golf or soccer with the kid up north. Can’t forget good old garage time with my son working on his miata.

We try to stay pretty active even though the weather is terrible View attachment 1144454 View attachment 1144455 View attachment 1144456 View attachment 1144457 View attachment 1144458 View attachment 1144459

Nice!

Didn’t you move to St. George? My mom and brother moved there 20 years ago. Very scenic! The weather could be worse.

You know I like the car scene! Which River is that?

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Cruised down to the local beach tonight to watch the sunset....

 

[caribbean20]

Always some action at the beach. National Lifeguard competition.

 

[Bobby V]

lol...ok

Yeah CA has alot of people. They also have close to 1/3 of the entire countries homeless.

Texas has 30 million people and only 27k homeless.

Nobody that left CA left because the weather sucked. We left because the politics, taxes and cost no longer pencil and for the most part it's a shit place to raise kids.

Did you move your office also. Or is it still in Tustin, CA.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Did you move your office also. Or is it still in Tustin, CA.

still in tustin

might downsize and move it closer to foutain valley next year. We are mostly remote these days so the $3500 a month for the lease makes little sense.

 

[tostark]

Always some action at the beach. National Lifeguard competition.
View attachment 1145359

Would be better if the Poop Deck was still open!

 

[River Runnin]

PLEASE!! … Ban the OP! … Lock the thread! … And delete it! … it hurts my eyes every time it pop’s up!

 

[Bobby V]

PLEASE!! … Ban the OP! … Lock the thread! … And delete it! … it hurts my eyes every time it pop’s up!

If your eyes are hurting. How did you find the thread and reply button...