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Sorry, for the boating content But I just had to share.

I got invited to go to Pine Flat lake with family friends when I was 14.(55 now) The Buckley’s owned a pristine 62 Mandella short deck with a 392 Hemi. Their kids were mostly grown, and I became their surrogate kid. They had a second round of teenagers through the lake, with me and my friends.

Dee and Dave were amazing in every way.

I fell into life long love with with the lake and the boat, the very first trip. I never missed another trip. When I finished college, I moved closer to the lake (from So Cal).

Got married. Had kids. Made a houseboat. Bought land at the lake. Wakeboard boat, Sanger Mini Cruiser for fun.

And then the email arrived last week. Father Time is a prick. We had a Memorial service for Dee this past summer, and now Dave wants the boat back at Pine Flat. He knows I’ve always loved it. Sooo- down I went . She needs a little love and will get it.


here’s a few pics:

Down to Monrovia to pick it up. New tires and bearings for the ride back home. And at the rest stop at the top of Grapevine
 
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That gelcoat looks great for a '62. I'm partial to red and white and have a '73.

It's always great to see a Mandella on the boards! Thanks for sharing.
 

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That gelcoat looks great for a '62. I'm partial to red and white and have a '73.

It's always great to see a Mandella on the boards! Thanks for sharing.
It’s actually Imron paint. The boat was crushed in a landslide around 1980. Carson Brummett put it back in the mold and repaired it.
On the hunt to find someone who can repair the Imron shortly. Prolly end up in Nevada for repairs, I’m guessing. Oh well!
 

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Couple more from the 80’s. Me In my UCR sweatshirt riding the nose to launch it in the morning. Lol! Who wanted to ride in the truck to the launch ramp? Pfffft . Barely a quarter mile... Saved a step.
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Every morning. Wave to the cops or the Rangers on the way by. Times have changed.
 

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It’s actually Imron paint. The boat was crushed in a landslide around 1980. Carson Brummett put it back in the mold and repaired it.
On the hunt to find someone who can repair the Imron shortly. Prolly end up in Nevada for repairs, I’m guessing. Oh well!
What's the story behind the landslide
 

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What marina did you grow up at? I grew up at Lakeridge the same years you were at the lake.
We were at Trimmer then.

Houseboat was ALWAYS in the first cove past Swinging Bridge (the cove that had SS relief, just past Trimmer in those days.

We still call it Buckley Cove.
 

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What's the story behind the landslide


The boat was stored on their property which is basically against the mountains. (Bears on the property and the like- crazy for So Cal).

Mix in an El Niño winter and there you go.
Mud slide. Crushed Mandella. And an unusual project for Carson.
 

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Pretty much all of the earlier Mandellas had Fords as far as I can recall, makes yours with the Hemi even more rare!
Yeah, I guess Lou Brummett was kinda weird too. (liked Fords) .
Crazy luck (I guess), how he managed to win so many races.
 

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Yeah, I guess Lou Brummett was kinda weird too. (liked Fords) .
Crazy luck (I guess), how he managed to win so many races.
Big block Chevy engines were a brand new thing in 1965, and only 396 cu in. Lou's Fords were put together buy Louis Unser and Bud Gilbert, so no luck involved there! I may be wrong, but in the back of my mind it seems like Carson may have finally talked his dad into trying a Chevy, but of course Lou unfortunately was killed in 1970 at Elsinore.
 

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Big block Chevy engines were a brand new thing in 1965, and only 396 cu in. Lou's Fords were put together buy Louis Unser and Bud Gilbert, so no luck involved there! I may be wrong, but in the back of my mind it seems like Carson may have finally talked his dad into trying a Chevy, but of course Lou unfortunately was killed in 1970 at Elsinore.
My uncle was killed in his flattie (Sanger I believe) at Pineflat in 74 or 75.
 

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Sorry- this lake has always been our happy place. That would be tough to come back to.
Nah, just a little moment in time, I never met him as I was born in 76 but being a gearhead we would have enjoyed each other's company. My aunt had a houseboat up their for years that we spent time on, she sold it in 87ish, so it's been awhile since I have been up there, I would like to get back up there again.
 

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Great story!!, I wish there were more of these. Your mind imagines what was going on when you were telling your story. :cool:
 

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That is a great story! I love that upholstered piece that wraps around, and it looks to be done in one piece. very cool.

If you get a chance can you see if there are any markings on that steering helm that might give me a clue who made them? I've been looking for one for years with no luck, I really like the built in shifter.

Just a heads up, Moon (mooneyes) still offers the 3 spoke steering wheels in white incase you wanted to go back the wheel in the early pics.
 

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Big block Chevy engines were a brand new thing in 1965, and only 396 cu in. Lou's Fords were put together buy Louis Unser and Bud Gilbert, so no luck involved there! I may be wrong, but in the back of my mind it seems like Carson may have finally talked his dad into trying a Chevy, but of course Lou unfortunately was killed in 1970 at Elsinore.
From what I understand this is correct about Carson and the Chevy influence.
 

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I always went to Pine Flat from the mid 60's through about 88. We had a house boat that we kept at Trimmer when Rick owned the marina and I had a Blue Sanger 17'10" flat bottom named "Porky Pig" (the old race boat) with a 426 Hemi in it, later re named it "Hephalump". Then after that a Yellow and white DiMarco Day cruiser with the same Hemi in it boat was named "Kahn Job". About the mid 80's Pine Flat was always out of water by July 4th and that is when I started going to Havasu. Never looked back, but it was fun times.
 

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That is a great story! I love that upholstered piece that wraps around, and it looks to be done in one piece. very cool.

If you get a chance can you see if there are any markings on that steering helm that might give me a clue who made them? I've been looking for one for years with no luck, I really like the built in shifter.

Just a heads up, Moon (mooneyes) still offers the 3 spoke steering wheels in white incase you wanted to go back the wheel in the early pics.
I don’t see anything. Thanks for the heads up on the steering wheel. Added to the list... The long and getting longer list
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I always went to Pine Flat from the mid 60's through about 88. We had a house boat that we kept at Trimmer when Rick owned the marina and I had a Blue Sanger 17'10" flat bottom named "Porky Pig" (the old race boat) with a 426 Hemi in it, later re named it "Hephalump". Then after that a Yellow and white DiMarco Day cruiser with the same Hemi in it boat was named "Kahn Job". About the mid 80's Pine Flat was always out of water by July 4th and that is when I started going to Havasu. Never looked back, but it was fun times.
You had some seriously nice hardware!! I remember Hephalump and I’m almost certain I remember the cruiser. My memory (flawed ) says it had red/white/blue colors? We were an outside slip and there was a cruiser parked on an inside slip with the exhaust pointed at us a few times that certainly made an impression on a kid while it was warming up.

And I’m pretty sure Rick was a shell for Dr. Athan (sp?). He owned the marina before Rick and got into a grind with The Corp. After Rick, he sold to Adrian who then ran it into the ground. TheBuckley’s rented the property above Dr. Atahn’s and I remember a few cocktail conversations. Could be wrong?
 

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Classic SW Dash. A driveline guard built to protect incase of nuclear incident. A seriously rusted generator and the wrap around splash guard with dash mounted pad for backward viewing when skiing( favorite part- spin around, back in the dash, legs over the back rest. And get ready for Dee and Dave to hurt my feelings while they skied further (and probably harder) than me...
 

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I've actually known Carson since that time period and got that straight from him. My dad used to crew for his dad at the races.
Legend. Awesome. I wish I could have been around back then and witnessed the pits and races.
Yeah, I didn't doubt your credibility. Just thought I would throw in my support because you said, "in the back of my mind it seems like."
I don't go back as far as you. Just referencing the recent conversations and things I've learned in recent years. I like old stories like this and hearing how decisions get made and why, especially when they bring about great success.
 

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What a cool boat with a great back story. Should be a fun project. I picked up a Hondo Sprint project, but it won’t see Pine Flat or any lake for a couple seasons. Hope to catch up with you at the lake this summer.
 

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What a cool boat with a great back story. Should be a fun project. I picked up a Hondo Sprint project, but it won’t see Pine Flat or any lake for a couple seasons. Hope to catch up with you at the lake this summer.
Getting started this weekend. Gonna boroscope the cylinders, and then hopefully compression test(starter willing). We turned engine over by hand when picked up. It was stuck a little but then felt ok😱.
Fingers are crossed.
 

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Classic SW Dash. A driveline guard built to protect incase of nuclear incident. A seriously rusted generator and the wrap around splash guard with dash mounted pad for backward viewing when skiing( favorite part- spin around, back in the dash, legs over the back rest. And get ready for Dee and Dave to hurt my feelings while they skied further (and probably harder) than me...

And the classic 8D battery holder.
 

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And the classic 8D battery holder.
Yep- every other season needed replaced like clockwork. Just part of the program.

Dave always said life in a flat bottom “was hard on the plates”.
 

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Classic SW Dash. A driveline guard built to protect incase of nuclear incident. A seriously rusted generator and the wrap around splash guard with dash mounted pad for backward viewing when skiing( favorite part- spin around, back in the dash, legs over the back rest. And get ready for Dee and Dave to hurt my feelings while they skied further (and probably harder) than me...
...Looks like a Borg Warner in and out and a Hallcraft V drive w/V-drive driven tac ...is the V-drive a parallel shaft???...
...There’s a real good chance that I was around that boat at Pine Flat in my youth???...
 
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...Looks like a Borg Warner in and out and a Hallcraft V drive w/V-drive driven tac ...is the V-drive a parallel shaft???...
...There’s a real good chance that I was around that boat at Pine Flat in my youth???...
The boats been at Pine Flat since the early 60’s. It was dark red metal flake in those days.

and yep- velvet drive Trans with a hall craft vdrive. I know it’s not as strong as a casale split case, but I just love the whine of the straight cut gears. You could hear the whine long before you could hear the exhaust when the boat was coming toward you.
 

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So- we pulled most of the boat apart. Made lists, loaded baggies with bolts and labels and started filling up my parts rack in the garage. But we were stressed about the engine. No plugs were in the heads and we had no clue for how long... Starter and carb were junk, so couldn’t do much on weekend 1. Rebuilt the carb and had the starter rebuilt. Changed the oil and compression tested. 6 cylinders at 165 and 2 at 150. Not perfect but not horrible. Put the plugs back in. Checked the wiring. Confirmed power to the coil and hit the starter. Sweet Baby Hemi! She’s alive! Now we have the path for rebuild.
 

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Dunno if admin wants to move this to V drive? But I’m going to keep adding to this for my own fun, and I hope you all continue to enjoy!

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Once the motor was run, could then pull it out as well and strip the steering out of the back. $50 Gantry for the win!

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Steering pulley hardware was scary. Bolts almost 1/2 rusted though. Fun fact: the pulleys said Westinghouse Formica. A little google research determined them to be WW2 airplane surplus. Wow! I found that Aircraft Spruce sells identical new phenolic pulleys with the same dimensions. Cleaned up the tray, and reinstalled the new pulleys and grade 8 hardware.

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I called Dave Buckley re: the pulleys, and he said:” Yeah, there was a WW 2 surplus yard on Colorado Blvd( Pasadena) and Lou Brummett used a bunch of surplus where he could. That’s where the turnbuckles came from as well.” Sweet- back to aircraft spruce site I went and Yep- they have exact replacements. One less search down the road...
 

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So I am currently trying to get ready for a big push the first week of April. My son is coming home from school to help work on the boat for a week. Gotta take advantage of his energy, youth, flexibility and ability to wedge his ass up in the bow for repaint... Plus rewire.

So I’m currently cleaning stuff, measuring stuff and ordering stuff.



My Lathe..(jealous?)
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My nights work!
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Clean stuff
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Not clean stuff... uggg
 
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