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@SpectraPat asked for some pics of the Schiada/Imco fuel tank brackets so here they are.

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My plan is to fab new ones out of stainless steel using the loop side of velcro as a cushion against the fuel tanks instead of the vinyl coating.
 

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@SpectraPat asked for some pics of the Schiada/Imco fuel tank brackets so here they are.

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My plan is to fab new ones out of stainless steel using the loop side of velcro as a cushion against the fuel tanks instead of the vinyl coating.
Don't forget to have the new SS parts passivated in Nitric Acid. This will remove the iron at the surface after fabrication. This in an important step that many people forget when working/bending or welding with Stainless Steel. The worked areas will begin to rust. Annealing serves a similar purpose but includes stress relief that is sometimes necessary when fabricating Stainless Steel. Annealing is heating the object to where the nickel and chrome will melt and migrate around the steel substrate lattice and make the carbonized (the worked areas) steel uniform in the nickle and chrome content. Regular Nitric Acid Passivate is much cheaper than Annealing and is probably all you would need.
 

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Balsa going down.

Little known fact unless you are building a wind farm or having balsa floors put in your old boat: there is currently a global balsa shortage due to the wildfires in South America last year.

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Slow but steady progress. Wet sanding the balsa and interior gel for polishing. Then spray the non-skid in white and a final detail. Word is I can pick it up in two weeks.

Next stop, Adrenaline trailers in LHC for the new hauler and then back home to start drilling new holes in it.

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Awesome!! Looks great, and keep that wheel of progress rolling.
 

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That is beautiful, nice floors in a flat are the Raquel Welch of the boating world 👍
 

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Did you open up the cavity next to the stringers where the motor mounts bolt up or was is that the way from the factory ?
I like it better without having access plates screwed down to the floor it's a lot cleaner IMO.
 

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Did you open up the cavity next to the stringers where the motor mounts bolt up or was is that the way from the factory ?
I like it better without having access plates screwed down to the floor it's a lot cleaner IMO.
Yes, I did. It had full floors originally. Opening up that stringer bay gives some more room for hardware access and to put other stuff like oil coolers, etc. It's how Stan is doing most of the recent boats at Schiada.

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It's baaaack!

Yesterday I made the quick 16 hour trip to Castaic and back to bring home the finished hull. I am really happy with the job that Pancho and Dustin at Menace Marine did. The colors and retro graphics scheme are spot on and exactly what I wanted. The balsa came out great. Best of all the non-skid came out as close to perfect as you can get on a re-spray. Just enough new gel that it is shiny and bright white but not so much that it looks and feels like cottage cheese.

Keen observers will note that she is back on the old Competitive trailer. The new trailer wasn't ready at Adrenaline so I wasn't able to pickup the hull and trailer in one trip. Evidently, there is a global shortage of polished stainless fenders. Something about a large conglomerate acquiring the go-to fender company, laying off all of the original talent, and now they are now un-able to fulfill fender orders because nobody can figure out how to make them. Acquisition integration fail...

Next up, drilling holes and bolting stuff together...
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Oh. My. Lord!! Looks awesome!! Balls that thing is sharp.

You’ve gotta be on cloud nine. I’m right behind you in the gel department, bud.

I’m ecstatic for you. What a gorgeous piece.
 

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Looks awesome i guess i have a reason to stop by now !!
 

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Awfully nice to start drilling holes in. It looks beautiful, you have done a great job.
 

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Nice!! The color combination is perfect and unique! That combination doesn't look like any other color scheme that I've seen on a Schiada! Menace Marine did a really nice job for you! Looks almost as good as that C-10! 😎
 

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Nice!! The color combination is perfect and unique! That combination doesn't look like any other color scheme that I've seen on a Schiada! Menace Marine did a really nice job for you! Looks almost as good as that C-10! 😎
Thanks man, there will be a cameo shot at some point in time with the RC behind the C-10. Its a '75 so definitely period correct, no hitch on the truck though...
 

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All right, the holidays are over and the tree is gone. It's time to start rigging the boat. Well at least get ready to start...

I need to get the hull off the trailer to be able to mount the strut and drill the prop shaft hole which will lead to mounting the v-drive., and on, and on, and on. So I looked at buying some commercially available "dollies" to set the hull on but by the time I factored in price, plus shipping, plus lead times given Covid shipping delays I figured maybe I could just build some. I had some casters laying around, ran to the steel yard and grabbed a couple of sticks of 2" tube and started cutting and welding. Not exactly weld porn, but pretty good for a old guy rocking a 2.5 cheater in the hood.

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Yeah, looks like your first time welding...🤓

Those are beefier than I see at some boat companies.

This is the fun part...enjoy it! It’s tough taking cutting tools to something you’ve just spent a percentage of your life on to get “right”, but I’m pretty sure you’re measuring twice and cutting once.

As always, jonesing for the next installment!
 
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I wish I had an update that included tangible progress on the boat but this phase of the journey seems to be a lot about designing parts, testing designs, then sending them off to guys that can turn ideas into real parts and waiting for real stuff to show up that I can bolt on the hull.

One of the great opportunities you have rebuilding an old v-drive boat from scratch is that you are starting with a clean slate. The vision for my boat is a period correct-ish aesthetic with modern rigging and powertrain shooting for a safe 100 mph boat. There are very few "off the shelf" parts for this kind of build. The small and shrinking handful of guys that do this kind of work are part artist and part engineer. Even at Schiada, each new boat is an expression of Stan and Lee's interpretation of a set of customer requirements shaped in manner consistent with the brand, its history, and a commitment to exceptional quality. While some parts may be the same from one boat to the next, each boat is a unique creation, pushing the state of the art forward. It sounds a little oxymoronic saying v-drive and state of the art in same sentence. While v-drives are not new technology, the art continues to progress with each new build.

This boat being my first v-drive and my desire to build it myself present certain challenges. The fact that I live in northern California makes hanging out and learning at Schiada, Prime, Concept, in Havasu at Mike Kings, or in Vegas with Racey impractical. That's the bad news. On the upside, we live in the age of information, and there are communities like RDP where boaters that have relevant experience share it with those that don't. RDP and to a lesser degree PB and even old HB archives have been very useful to this novice v-drive rigger. Stan and Lee at Schiada, Shane (Racey), Matt (025) and Daryl (Toolman) have been very generous with their time and expertise helping me along the way.

I found Toolman here on RDP while looking for a CNC machined parts source. He told me about the 3d printing technology he has been using to validate design concepts for a number of other v-drive builders. It turns out these little printers are cheap, work well, and if you are relatively new at 3D CAD like I am, can save you from expensive mistakes in metal. They also let you iterate designs very quickly at a very low cost and produce a part that's durable enough for mock ups as well as just getting a sense of look and feel.

Here are a couple of the cav plate parts I have built using the Ender 5 printer I picked up on Amazon. The machine is basically a CNC hot glue gun, laying down sequential layers of melted plastic as it creates the physical representation of a 3D CAD model. Once I am happy with a design it will head out for CNC machining in metal.

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I bought a Creality for the same reasons and I’ve been so busy it’s still in the box.

Nice parts!
 

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Very Cool! My Son got into the 3D printing and has done some real nice work for Gun stocks and some misc ard ware items. cannot wait to see your finished product.
 
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