• Welcome to River Dave's Place

21 RC I/O VS 21 RC V-DRIVE

Discussion in 'Schiada Forums' started by milkmoney, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    If both boats are equipped the same, as far as seating, year built, horsepower etc.
    same speed and condition. Jus like going up or down river together , side by side .

    Which , if either will ride better , or will it be the exact same ride. ????

    Thanks
     
  2. hallett21

    hallett21 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,578
    Likes Received:
    3,802
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2010
    I think HP for HP the I/O will have better mid range and top end. As well as be better around docks.

    However the ride quality in the 21 v-drive is hard to beat, and I imagine the V-drive will outturn the I/O significantly
     
    wsuwrhr likes this.
  3. wsuwrhr

    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

    Messages:
    35,635
    Likes Received:
    23,807
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Plus....The cool kids all run vdrives. :)
     
  4. SBMech

    SBMech Fixes Broken Stuff

    Messages:
    7,389
    Likes Received:
    9,384
    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    How could it outurn the I/O...if the I/O is better around docks?

    For the same HP the Sterndrive would be faster, and turn better than the V-Drive.

    As far as ride most people seem to think the v-drives ride smoother.
     
    SoCalZero likes this.
  5. hallett21

    hallett21 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    7,578
    Likes Received:
    3,802
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2010
    I would think at speed a V-drive with a rudder and turn fin would out corner an I/O no?
     
  6. Wheeler

    Wheeler Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    17,127
    Likes Received:
    12,423
    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2007
    Fags don't drive V-Drives.

    Hope this helps with your decision. :moon:
     
    BHC Vic likes this.
  7. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Some good response so far.

    And wheeler , stick it
     
    BHC Vic and wsuwrhr like this.
  8. thetub

    thetub Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,036
    Likes Received:
    1,775
    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    I would say the stern drive would ride and be more user friendly. Power for power stern drive over Vdrive.

    turning fast would be a Vdrive, but not around docks... cruising around would be stern drive cause you can trim drive up or down along with trim tabs...

    My 2 cents a Stern drive boat is more like a softail Harley and a Vdrive is like a rigid. The Vdrive will rattle you to death and you gotta check all your bolts after cruising around...:)

    thats my 2 cents worth from my experience...


    cool factor Vdrive...
     
    milkmoney likes this.
  9. aaronschiada

    aaronschiada Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,086
    Likes Received:
    806
    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2009
    Are you asking for conversation purposes? Or are you in need of justification for purchasing a certain Schiada with an I/O? Haha. Either way, I think you should get what you really want, and not sacrifice your decision based off of what is currently available on the market.
     
    milkmoney likes this.
  10. rivrrts429

    rivrrts429 Arch Stanton...

    Messages:
    14,616
    Likes Received:
    20,371
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2008
    I'm a purist and believe in equal rights for both feet. It should have left and right foot pedals.

    The I/O will be all around comfy but a Schiada is hard to beat in its native mechanical habitat so I say V-Drive. Especially if you're looking at anything with any horsepower and airing it out.

    There is nothing that sounds better than a v-drive rounding the turn at Fox's and putting the wood to the meatloaf hauler
     
    Q4mtxUS and wsuwrhr like this.
  11. wsuwrhr

    wsuwrhr The Masheenest

    Messages:
    35,635
    Likes Received:
    23,807
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    .....aaaand less downtime while the lower unit and gimble on the sterndrive is getting rebuilt, again. :)

    Brian
     
    milkmoney likes this.
  12. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Great response. Thank you
     
  13. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Jus in , wondering is all. And I agree with ur last comment. Which one certain schiada u speaking of. Ha ha
    Thanks
     
  14. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    How I agree with ur whole statement.
     
    rivrrts429 likes this.
  15. Outdrive1

    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    27,058
    Likes Received:
    13,376
    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    If your looking for turnkey. A mercruiser I/o is as turnkey as you're gonna get. It's going to be a great family cruiser with little maintenance. Pump gas. Fuel injection. Turn the key and go.

    A vdrive with big power is a different animal. They could be turnkey too but when something fails expect to spend cubic dollars to fix it. Or you like turning wrenches. They need more attention. And they suck fuel and possibly good fuel. WMC got a taste of 1500 dollars in fuel for a weekend and decided that wasn't for him. Vdrives are good second boats imo.

    Nothing compares to a properly setup vdrive with big power as far as fun and ride quality.
     
  16. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    I completely agree with the analogy of turn key vs the vdrive big power issues and fun factor.

    More wondering if the ride of the hull is the same for either way a 21 RC is equipped. ??

     
  17. Activated

    Activated Deplorable

    Messages:
    4,158
    Likes Received:
    5,695
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2012
    What does it matter? You won't post a picture of it any way!
     
    RogerThat99 and milkmoney like this.
  18. SFV2RVR

    SFV2RVR Registered Parker Legend

    Messages:
    2,669
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    Shit or get off the pot you stroke! Lol
     
    milkmoney likes this.
  19. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Lol. We decided When we purchase. U guys will get sick of all the pics
     
    Activated likes this.
  20. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    I am I am. Jus have to wait til next month
    My wife wants to know if she gets a sign like u gave Paul. She thought it was cool
     
  21. SFV2RVR

    SFV2RVR Registered Parker Legend

    Messages:
    2,669
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    I can give you the guys info so you can order one if you want. They're pretty badass in person!
     
    milkmoney likes this.
  22. Andy01

    Andy01 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,423
    Likes Received:
    2,634
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2007
    You could dig into this a little further on setup. I know of three I/O 21 RC's in Havasu and all three are set up different.

    Same could be said about a V-drive, some have a ballast tank in the bow and some don't. Different angle of the shaft and so on.

    If I were to own a 21 RC it would be a V-drive twin turbo LS with one seat and a cooler. Open stringer boat with all the polished shit. And a 8 foot ski tow so it could double as a stripper pole at Foxes :)But I'm ten boats from owning that boat.

    For use and turn key as stated the I/O really is a hard setup to beat.
     
    milkmoney likes this.
  23. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    I will tell her you said no, lol.
    Once I have one in the barn , then I will get the info from ya. Thanks
     
    SFV2RVR likes this.
  24. Groper

    Groper Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,401
    Likes Received:
    804
    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    No, after spending many years in both, an Outdrive and a V-Drive, to me both are very different Boats all together due to the center of gravity the V-Drive rides and handles better, when the water conditions change the V-Drive rules the playground.
     
    wsuwrhr and milkmoney like this.
  25. milkmoney

    milkmoney Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    31,444
    Likes Received:
    20,457
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2008
    Is the water conditions u speak of, mean rougher water ?
     
  26. Groper

    Groper Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,401
    Likes Received:
    804
    Joined:
    May 6, 2009
    Why yes, yes I am.
     
  27. tony

    tony Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    886
    Likes Received:
    183
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2008
    V-drive 21 RC's are unbelievably great handling boats for there size but if your boating on havasu and going on long cruises I think an IO would be a better choice.. A good 21 RC V-drive is really getting hard to find for less than 50-60k..
     
  28. 28skater

    28skater Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    698
    Likes Received:
    484
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2009
    Everyone I know who buys an old 50-60K Schiada ends up with a old 100K Schiada:smackhead
     
  29. tony

    tony Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    886
    Likes Received:
    183
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2008
    Very true! Or you buy 100k 21schiada and put another 10 or 20k to make it your own!!😜
     
  30. 28skater

    28skater Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    698
    Likes Received:
    484
    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2009
    You could always call Lee and order it your way!
     
  31. tony

    tony Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    886
    Likes Received:
    183
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2008
    That's definatly an option. Atleast that way everything is fresh including the motor and it's the way you want it!
     
  32. Ouderkirk

    Ouderkirk Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,664
    Likes Received:
    1,882
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2016
    Can you clarify that a little bit?

    $1500 in fuel for a two day blast? That's a lot of time with your foot on the floor with forced induction.

    300-500 gallons of fuel in two days?
     
    wsuwrhr likes this.
  33. Outdrive1

    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    27,058
    Likes Received:
    13,376
    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Race fuel is 9/10 a gallon.
     
    wsuwrhr likes this.
  34. Wmc

    Wmc The Mayor

    Messages:
    4,082
    Likes Received:
    2,042
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    the boat held 100gallons @ $5 a gallon AV gas $500 a day 3 day weekend $1500. it was nice, but fuck that shit and sold it before my wife knew how much it cost. It was fun while it lasted:)
     
    wsuwrhr likes this.
  35. Wmc

    Wmc The Mayor

    Messages:
    4,082
    Likes Received:
    2,042
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    I did it with AV gas too:skull
     
    wsuwrhr likes this.
  36. Ouderkirk

    Ouderkirk Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,664
    Likes Received:
    1,882
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2016
    Got it...

    You still did a fair amount of blasting about at WOT suck down 300 gallons. That wasn't at 2500/3000 RPM cruising speed was it?
     
  37. Wmc

    Wmc The Mayor

    Messages:
    4,082
    Likes Received:
    2,042
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Yes alot of blast. It was 1100 HP 22ft and very thirsty
     
    wsuwrhr likes this.
  38. ImNOTGuy

    ImNOTGuy Member

    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2014
    Back to original question. Let's get real now. If you need to ask the question, which is better... then you just need to go with the I/O and cruise on your merry little way.
     
  39. Your ad here

    Your ad here Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,775
    Likes Received:
    1,728
    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2014
    What is the minimum hp for a V drive setup in a 21'?
     
  40. aaronschiada

    aaronschiada Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,086
    Likes Received:
    806
    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2009
    im not sure what you're asking. there is no minimum or maximum. there is only...how much money do you want to spend, and is your boat setup for it....
     
  41. BamBam

    BamBam Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    833
    Likes Received:
    372
    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    There were lots of 21's (and 22's) built in the past with Stock LS6 454's (or similar power) and they were set up accordingly to make the best use of the power they had. Today you're not going to see a new 21' built with stock power 'cause if you have enough money to even consider a new 21' Schiada you probably have enough money for big HP.
     
    Andy01 likes this.

Share This Page