go with the Merc 700
Can you elaborate on the M6? Just trying to learn as much as I can about set ups? How would that open can of worms??The 600 is fully upgradable down the road, up to 800hp without getting crazy, the 565 really has no upgrades except an ecu reflasj for 20 or so hours so comes down to what you really plan for the future. They are both excellent engine platforms.
The 700 is a bad sob right out the box but last i read Mercury only sells it coupled to an M6 now, the NXT is currently discontinued, and i would imagine that would open a whole new can of worms on that hull.
Before pulling the trigger it’s also real nice to be able to go next door and speak with Mr. Teague and see what power and drive he’d be able to get you into for the same/similar money. The MR will always carry a better resale tho.
How much does that engine run??Teague 825
Drive for the 600SCI bravo XrCan you elaborate on the M6? Just trying to learn as much as I can about set ups? How would that open can of worms??
Can you elaborate on the M6? Just trying to learn as much as I can about set ups? How would that open can of worms??
Thank you for your input! Do you know price difference? 600, 700?If it is in your budget go 600. Down the road upgrades are great. That is the one regret i have when we built our boat. 565 you are pretty much were you are going to be, the DTS set up is nice but not life changing. You go 700 and you are making a big jump in price.
THanks for reply! I pretty much just want a one time, reliable set up! For now!! HA!I have owned 3 600's and have really liked them all. I did own one in a 28SS and broke the drive but that was a day that I had my 2 people prop on and ended up with 6 people. It took a beating getting on plane all day. Not sure of the XR has been upgraded since. The 700 package is just done and ready to go. But I would still take the 600 over the 565.
I want to say it is right at about a $20,000 difference between the 2.Thank you for your input! Do you know price difference? 600, 700?
How much does that engine run??
You get 95 mph with that 600?? What rpm??I had the 600 and did the stage 3 upgrade in my 2017 288 and it worked great! Absolutely no issues with the drive or anything else. A solid 95mph boat.
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You get 95 mph with that 600?? What rpm??
700 # done , youre going to spend it anyways , 600 Bravo NO [ heavy boat ] , budget & boat dont go together .
Is the Imco SCX a better quality? Or is it personal preference?An M6 has to have a transmission so the rigging would be entirely different in the boat. Also I know Teague doesn't like to run 6's on a single setup as it's a surfacing drive and the boat could lose control.
As far as drives go do not discount the IMCO SCX, it's a nice middle ground between the XR and M6 and was designed to bridge that gap. Plenty of them out there with way more then 700.
I don't know what your budget situation is but I would go 700 and the SCX if it were in the possibility, then 600 and SCX, then 565 and XR
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The can of worms I’m talking about is how many decks or better how many Howard decks have you seen with the M6 hanging off the back.I don’t think it would open a can of worms, m6 is a more serious performance drive
600 or 700 you’re on the right track
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Is the Imco SCX a better quality? Or is it personal preference?
Are you referring to the IMCO drive? Bravo? That you would not want?? And why?I personally would never own a bravo drive boat again. If they have rigged your boat before and it works well with a 6 drive I would go for that all day long. However I would not want to be the first if they have not.
By the time you buy a prop for the 6 I seem to remember it being about 30k upgrade going to the 700 package over a 600. But so worth it in my opinion. After warranty whipple kit it and it really wakes up the 700’s.
Ok {m considering that too but not sure what the price difference is? Plus I want reliability as well, dont want high maintenance, been through that already, but would like a little power. Do you have experience with the 700?
Thank you for your input!Much Better Quality
The main benefit is the gears are bigger which overcomes the limiting factor of the XR drive gears. The drive takes a bravo transom assembly, only requires a helmet change(what the drive bolts to). The drive is physically bigger as well, this isn't a problem for the upper but the lower being bigger can create a lot more drag. A common theme is to run an SCX upper and an more streamlined lower. The best option for this would be the dual downshaft lower(also the most expensive) as you get the added strength of the bigger SCX gears and the streamlined case and added strength of the dual downshaft lower.
I believe Howard did a 288 with a Teague 1050 and the SCX upper and dual downshaft lower last year and RD did a video on it.
Either way I would talk to Bob Teague, I'll bet you a case of beer whatever drive you get it will come from his shop.
(1) Teague Talk with The Swoops: Bravo Outdrives Part 1 - YouTube
Are you referring to the IMCO drive? Bravo? That you would not want?? And why?
The 600 is proven to 1000+ HP??Referring to a bravo or imco sc. SC uses same gear set as bravo XR. SCX is bigger on top but most guys run and SC lower. Which is still Bravo XR gears. It’s my understanding or was at the time early this year you still can’t get a 6 prop shaft in a dual down shaft imco lower.
But as others have said. It’s a lot more weight going to a 6 drive. Also engine needs to be moved forward as 700/six package comes with a transmission.
All depends on how you drive as well. I just prefer the no fuss of a six. They are solid and proven to 1000+hp.
The 600 is proven to 1000+ HP??
I'm kind of thinking we should recommend the 565 max for OP hahaha.No he is referring to the drive.
I'm kind of thinking we should recommend the 565 max for OP hahaha.
Just looking for feed back on which engine package to go with for a Howard 288 deck? Any pros and cons of each anyone had experience with??
Thanks!
Think fit would also play into the swim step as the M6 being a surface drive also runs a higher X.My Friends built one of these two years ago. They wanted to go with the merc 700 but as stated they only come with the M6 drive and I'm 99% sure howard told them that that drive will not work on the boat because of the set up and transmission. It doesn't fit in the engine bay. They ended up going with a teague 1075 i believe and their boat does over 100mph
I'm kind of thinking we should recommend the 565 max for OP hahaha.
I see, that’s a big price though!! I’m sureMy Friends built one of these two years ago. They wanted to go with the merc 700 but as stated they only come with the M6 drive and I'm 99% sure howard told them that that drive will not work on the boat because of the set up and transmission. It doesn't fit in the engine bay. They ended up going with a teague 1075 i believe and their boat does over 100mph
No way! That would ruin the whole boat!! Ha!If it were me I would be finding out how it would do with a couple 400 outboards lol.
No way! That would ruin the whole boat!! Ha!
No way! That would ruin the whole boat!! Ha!
I totally understand the big block attraction. But you should consider a couple 400's. After being around them in a few freinds DCB's I am a huge fan. I doubt I will ever own another boat without outboards. Just the piece of mind of essentially 7,8,9 hundred without touching them is a beautiful thing.