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Im starting this at work and will add pics later when I have access to them.

I picked up another project over the weekend lol A little back story first.

My first boat was a '71 Hondo flat that my dad helped me buy from a family friend of ours. I remember being at work and my dad calling me and asking how much money I had? Odd, cause it wasn't any of his business! He goes on to tell be about the boat and how much his buddy wants for it. I told my dad, "Thanks for thinking of me, but I don't have that kind of money right now". The next morning we got up and he said lets go to the bank! My dad co-signed a personal loan for me and made sure that this boat didn't get away.

That restoration took a couple of years and a full motor rebuild and was really well documented on another forum at the time, I have tons of pics! The first trip that boat made was to Parker for a week long vacation and it was all paid off by the time it hit the water.

I had a ton of fun in that boat, blew it up a couple of times too lol That boat ended up getting stored at my house in Blythe under a tarp and it was pretty hard on it. I had worked myself into a management position and had full access to a shop, money was good and my wife and I had bought a family boat. So, the flatty came "home" to begin its 2nd restoration. Plans included, new steering (chain and cable), fill all the holes and cracks in the dash/deck, and add a whirl-away.

Life had other plans, wedding, starting a new career in a new state (LHC!), loosing a motor in the new family boat and buying and selling a couple of houses.

That gets pretty close to current state, I did get the motor rebuilt and things seemed stable! Plans were made to bring the old flatty home again this month. Then one night at work I was cruising Craigslist.........and I found it............

I posted the original cl add to my Facebook page and left a caption that read something to the effect of, Someone buy this so either 1, I cant, 2, I can start making payments to you or 3, cause you want to gift me with it for my birthday

My dad calls me and says, "Im headed to CA this weekend, want me to go look at that boat for you? I haven't spent any money in a wile, I could bring it home" I told dad that I wasn't serious about it and I hadn't even talked to my wife about it. Then I get a text from a good friend, "Ill lend you the cash if you really want that boat" Well shit, guess I need to talk to my wife, I could make this dream a reality! My wife and I were heading to CA as well the following weekend, so I asked her, and she said go for it!

All week long I was checking the cl add to see if it disappeared, and it didn't. Friday, 11-8, I message the seller and ask to see the boat on Sat, 11-9. In the mean time Im studding the 5 pics posted and running every scenario through my mind. I put my other boat on jack stands and pull the wheels and tires off, pack them, the floor jack and some hand tools. We packed the car and took off Friday night for my moms in Indio. Sat am we head to Costa Mesa, once done there I message the seller and make arrangements to head that way (Corona) on our way home to Havasu. I was the first (and last) person to come look at the boat, it checked all the right box's and the deal was made. Wheels and tires were swapped and we were off, and I now have 3 boats; 2 Hondo's and a Carrera.

So, the newest boat is an '81 Hondo t-deck runner bottom, as the title says lol The boat was originally raced as Comp flat Flat Loose #118 and had a Dick Landy hemi in it. It set a MPH record of 134 at Chowchilla and was high points runner up in '82.

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Somewhere around '85-86 the boat was taken apart and plans were made to put a Ford motor in it and make a play boat. The original paint was sanded off and the black gel was primed and painted over, plain white base. The guy I bought it from found it at the body shop 10+ years ago and bought it and put it in his garage to finish, that never happend.

This boat is soo much closer to being done than mine that it made sense, and no one would talk me out of it! I probably wont really work on it at all till next year, after tax's, but we think it could be on the water next summer, we will see, I know life is funny!!! The new Hondo is tucked into my garage with all the hardware that it came with in it, I didn't even wash it. Im still on cloud 9, I walk into the garage and do a double take! I have my 427 Chevy out of my '71 Hondo that will go in it after I get motor mounts figured out.

I own one of my dream boats now!!!

Ill try to update this tomorrow with pics and hopefully next month Ill have it cleaned up and organized.
 
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Congratulations Ryan !
I saw that boat listed and gave it a thought. Lol
Glad it went to a good home!!

cheers..
 

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Nice. I saw it on cl. Looks pretty clean. Can’t wait for the build thread
 

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Congratulations Ryan !
I saw that boat listed and gave it a thought. Lol
Glad it went to a good home!!

cheers..
Nice. I saw it on cl. Looks pretty clean. Can’t wait for the build thread

Thanks guys.

The white paint job is less that perfect, not sure how that will play out. It was blocked up on the trailer to be sprayed and little care was given to over spray inside or on the trailer. Also the boat was not flipped over to spray the bottom. There is tons of orange peel and the previous owner started to color sand it, I figure it is good enough to get it on the water and probably good enough to be a base for some kandy kolor later on down the line. I think it is single stage white, which is not supposed to be cut and buffed vs base coat/clear coat. We figure if sanding it smooth takes all the shine out we could just clear the entire boat. Time will tell, my dad lives close, is retired and likes to paint on smaller scale stuff. Floors look good, transom wood looks good but it looks like it only got a coat of resin and no cloth/mat. The rudder quadrant when turned lock to lock actually hits the transom and has removed the resin where it touches. Ill be addressing that somehow lol The boat also has a solid drive line in it with what I know as "greek" couplers, I have all but the female flywheel side. I haven't measured yet, but it has an over sized cavitation rod connecting the pedals to the transom assembly. It looks like Ill be replacing a good amount of hardware that isn't stainless, nuts and bolts are easy though. Motor plates will be about the biggest thing to figure out. The boat came with 3 or 4 sets for various motor combos, including the og hemi, but the boat wan never rigged for a bbc, Im up for the task! I also have a good group of old boat racers to help me out and they are all pumped. Most have been ragging on me to get the old '71 back together
 

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Did some parts inventory and clean up today.

The motor rails that were wrapped up inside the boat are not for or from this boat. Kinda of a bummer cause its going to slow the mock up down, but all good cause I'll make my own rails and not end up with any extra holes.

All the blue aluminum pieces are 426 hemi mounts, which would be original to the boat. The red parts are powder coated BBC front and rear motor mounts and flywheel cover, I'll probably only use the flywheel cover as long as I can strip the powder coat. The Moroso valve covers will go up for sale, not my style at all lol.

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I pulled the wheel and gas pedal out to get room to pull out the old wiring. The harness was cut clean just in front of the drivers seats. Oh yeah, the seats don't match! One is 17" wide and the other is 19", I'd like to get a matching set eventually but I have my buckets from my other flat to use as well. The windshield was painted black, kinds sucks but I know those are available.

V-drive is a 10° and mounted at 95½". I need to crawl under the boat and figure out what strut angle it has, from talking to there people, I'm betting it's a 7½° strut. It should make a good river hot rod, I don't have plans to competitively race it.

Last cool bit of history is the certificate from the MPH record
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Congrats! Sounds like you have a good support group on this build. Love it when a good project brings people together.
 

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I don't have my updates for you guys, unfortunately life has been crazy on top of all the corona shit!

A good buddy did find this today though
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This is my boat, and it validates my assumption that it was taken apart to paint and never put back together. That add is from Hot Boat, April of '84
 

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I don't have my updates for you guys, unfortunately life has been crazy on top of all the corona shit!

A good buddy did find this today though
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This is my boat, and it validates my assumption that it was taken apart to paint and never put back together. That add is from Hot Boat, April of '84
Awesome opportunity to bring it back to glory!
 

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Awesome opportunity to bring it back to glory!

Well that's the plan! I need my family to stop growing so fast though. That's probably another story to tell in it's own thread in about 6 months ....

My plan is to start with making my stringer rails. Sounds simple enough right!?!?!?
 

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love the history attached to the boat. Its so cool you have those items.

take your time and restore it to its greatness. Not many dudes can claim they have a world record setting boat.
 

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Not an update, but I did pick up a missing part this afternoon. A couple months back I located a crank button that would accept my solid driveline. Through many hands the part was brought out here to Havasu and I was able to pick it up today.

@bagged97taco had been looking for this exact part too a wile ago and he was unable to find a new source. Wonder what ever came of that?

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Now if I get rails in I can start to figure out motor placement. Praying for some cooler weather 🤞
 
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Not an update, but I did pick up a missing part this afternoon. A couple months back I located a crank button that would accept my solid driveline. Through many hands the part was brought out here to Havasu and I was able to pick it up today.

@bagged97taco had been looking for this exact part to a wile ago and he was unable to find a new source. Wonder what ever came if that?

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Now if I get rails in I can start to figure out motor placement. Praying for some cooler weather 🤞
Almost the same. I was looking for the splined flange from the Vdrive. The setup in the Cole is very funky. Works but funky. I have a crank button on my canyon solid driveline but yes hard to find
 

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Almost the same. I was looking for the splined flange from the Vdrive. The setup in the Cole is very funky. Works but funky. I have a crank button on my canyon solid driveline but yes hard to find

Ahhhh. I knew we had talked and it was the same splines, just opposite ends lol
 

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I probably wont really work on it at all till next year, after tax's, but we think it could be on the water next summer, we will see, I know life is funny!!!


Well a year later and I dont have any updates on the boat. I have several family updates though! lol Im taking 4 weeks off at the end of the year, maybe Ill wash the boat....LIFE!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

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Don't give up Brother, you have your priorities in the right order, take care of your family stuff then the paly stuff is that much better, looking forward to seeing you progress.
 

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Don't give up Brother, you have your priorities in the right order, take care of your family stuff then the paly stuff is that much better, looking forward to seeing you progress.

Thanks!

I have my wife's support too. At no point in time has she told me to just sell the boats, and that is huge!!! I just need time and a little extra $$$. Time is the hardest to come by. I don't know how some of these guys do it?!?!?! I'm the last one to bed and the first one up, first out of the house and last to come home. I've done a TON in the last year though when I sit back and look at it, and its all good!

Thanks for following along, I want to make some progress after the holidays.
 

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Bored at work and I stumbled on this


My boat is at the 4min mark.
Cool to see the trailer, it still has the blue stripe and where the canopy use to mount there are now marker lights covering the holes. Also, I think the western wheels still have those same tires on them, and they do hold air, for a bout 9 months lol
 

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I went down and stared at the boat. It's kinda packed into the garage and I'm not real motivated to change that. I'm am really wondering what I'm going to do about all the overspray that is inside. I'm thinking no mater what it's going to take some serious arm work to clean up. I hit it tonight quickly with an ultra fine scotch brite pad. I don't think it did much, but, it didn't scratch the floors, so that's good. I'm hesitant to get into sand paper because that will lead to sanding all of the floors and not just the bad areas. That's probably where this is going to go though to get the best results.
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Any bright ideas out there?
 

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Paint over spray. I would just wipe it with paint thinner Then Immediately clean it with water or degreaser. Then polish them floors up to a shine
 

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Paint over spray. I would just wipe it with paint thinner Then Immediately clean it with water or degreaser. Then polish them floors up to a shine

I'm not opposed! My wife offered her nail polish remover 😂😂😂

It's been there probably 20 years or more though. It's definitely the worst up in the front
 

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Think you answered your own question, sand the surface and re-clear. Won't be that bad........ and will look fabulous
 
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Think you answered your own question, sand the surface and re-clear. Won't be that bad........ and will look fabulous

yea, this is really the right way. I'd try to clean it up with some thinner first though, maybe you'll be able to get by.
 

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If I end up sanding, I will just end up buffing the resin, no reason to get carried away and start spraying clear.
 

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If I end up sanding, I will just end up buffing the resin, no reason to get carried away and start spraying clear.
Come on Man, get a Line Green target on that T-Deck and we’ll go tear up the River!
 

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Come on Man, get a Line Green target on that T-Deck and we’ll go tear up the River!

Im partial to blues, red, yellow maybe brown. No green for me! My first truck was a '76 Suburban and it was metallic green with a white center, it was god awful ugly! It looked like this, hub caps and all.

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Besides, your boat looks soo good I wouldn't want to copy it just to come up short :p:p:p
 

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Bright ideas? Ya , commit to eating an elephant. How do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
Take that throttle bracket off and clean it. Is that overwhelming? No. Will it be perfect no. Put it where you can see it. Pull the cav
pedals, same.
Can I relate? Absofuckinglutly.
 

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Im partial to blues, red, yellow maybe brown. No green for me! My first truck was a '76 Suburban and it was metallic green with a white center, it was god awful ugly! It looked like this, hub caps and all.

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Besides, your boat looks soo good I wouldn't want to copy it just to come up short :p:p:p

Funny thing when I first saw that Hondo, I walked told the Wife I can’t do green! She told me pull over that boat has everything you want, you can do that green on a Boat.
Turned around a bought it!
But at the time here were our 2 cars
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