Dalton
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If I saw a cool looking Land Rover on Craigslist and it said it’s a Land Rover body on a “ford 4x4” or Jeep chassis, I would think one thing…run lol
X2. They can be found in forklifts for pretty cheap and are easily rebuildableI would do a Cummins 4BT in a heart beat! It would be sick, run forever, fuel efficient, crawl and tow. Otherwise, a LS1-6, but the diesel would be more fitting.
Speaking of Chev Colorado, they also had a Gas 5 cylinder for a while. If you find that the v8 is too wide, and a six is too long, the 5 might be the ticket.
I think the Sprinters went from a 5 to a six. They can be little bastards though to work on in a stock application. Lots of mid year changes on filters and cooler fittings. Motor does run really well though, and doing injectors in a vehicle with a real hood would be great!Cool project!
The “easy button” is going to be LS, but for gas power I’d consider the 4200 twin cam 4-valve from the Trailblazer/Envoy line (made from 2003-09 or11?) They’re 290 HP stock, and wouldn’t be hard to get 400 if you wanted to with a blower or turbo.
For diesel options I’d do a Mercedes 5-cylinder. They’re about indestructible, and are plentiful in Sprinters, where I’ve seen my buddy get 25 mpg on a trip. Another friend has one in a Jeep and it’s a sweet package.
Good luck with your project!
Mercedes 5cyl turbo diesel, those actually ran good, I saw a CJ5 for sale a few years back that had one in it, claimed it was getting 30mpgSpeaking of Chev Colorado, they also had a Gas 5 cylinder for a while. If you find that the v8 is too wide, and a six is too long, the 5 might be the ticket.
I think the Mercedes 5cyl is the Cummins of the middle east. Seen articles about taxis there having 1.5m milesMercedes 5cyl turbo diesel, those actually ran good, I saw a CJ5 for sale a few years back that had one in it, claimed it was getting 30mpg
Ok, so a peripheral port 13b is out...I'm sticking with gas because that fuel will be readily available and the engine will be much quieter than a diesel. Anything over 200 HP will be plenty.
Some of the responses on this thread would send the Land Rover forum purists into a seizures followed by a mob out for blood.I think we're safe from the purists. All we have to do is stay on pavement, and pedal briskly. They'll never catch up
Your money, your car, is exactly it. Be they restored, low mile original or highly modified, they all keep the cars alive. Some would be scrapped, instead get resurrected. I'd rather see a Rover on juice with a metal flake paint job, than see it crushed and turned into a Kia.Some of the responses on this thread would send the Land Rover forum purists into a seizures followed by a mob out for blood.
I always laugh at shit like that, Ive always been a your car, your money do whatever you please with it. One of my Best friends builds some seriously nice old school street rods, years ago he turned me onto a build thread he had going on the Hamb, that shit blew me away, those guy's can go 5 pages on a steering wheel horn button.
Kind of thought about this post and realized it may come off as a dig at the purists, that was not my intent. I am glad they are out there doing what they do for the sake of keeping a part of our history alive which is something this country seems to be in a hurry to get rid of.
My brother is building a 5 cyl Merc powered over lander.Cool project!
The “easy button” is going to be LS, but for gas power I’d consider the 4200 twin cam 4-valve from the Trailblazer/Envoy line (made from 2003-09 or11?) They’re 290 HP stock, and wouldn’t be hard to get 400 if you wanted to with a blower or turbo.
For diesel options I’d do a Mercedes 5-cylinder. They’re about indestructible, and are plentiful in Sprinters, where I’ve seen my buddy get 25 mpg on a trip. Another friend has one in a Jeep and it’s a sweet package.
Good luck with your project!
Always been a fan of that engine, back when I was playing with Jeeps that was a real popular swap, owners had nothing but praise.Buick V6 3800, supercharged.
It should shoehorn in quite nicely. Up to 260 HP.
Dan'l
Always been a fan of that engine, back when I was playing with Jeeps that was a real popular swap, owners had nothing but praise.
And I think 280 ft/lb of torque. The motor was the only thing in my Grand Prix that didn't need fixing. Supercharger oil was low from the factory however. Real fun car to run from Running Springs to Big Bear in.Buick V6 3800, supercharged.
It should shoehorn in quite nicely. Up to 260 HP.
Dan'l
This would be a very cool AWD electric conversion. I believe there are some nice kits, that might do this justice.I know we have some serious gear heads on here. I picked up this 1967 Land Rover Series IIA 5 Door station wagon last year. So far I haven't done anything with it. I was planning to sell our 62 Nova first. I don't have that much driveway space... LOL But things are getting more serious so we can start getting our plans more finely tuned.
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Currently it is unpowered. No engine, no transmission, no transfer case. Ha, not much of anything... Rust wise it is surprisingly in solid shape. Rust is a major issue with these vehicles. We will be taking it down to the frame and doing essentially a resto-mod treatment. When it came it had a non running late 60s Ford 302 in it. That engine has been pulled and sold off. Keep in mind the engine bay is tight. But dismantling the body will make it much easier to get to.
I was thinking of essentially building this with essentially a restored classic bronco powertrain. It would be fun to put a "5.0" badge on the lower front fender. LOL
We plan to tow it behind and RV and explore off road around the West, so I really prefer fuel injection over a basic carbed engine when dealing with altitude. Looking for crate motors hasn't left my pocketbook feeling good. Blueprint has a motor they make for Bronco restorations, but it is priced around $7000. Add on a Tremec trans and Atlas Transfer case and I'm damn near $15,000.
Certainly an LS swap is a viable option, but I find myself eyeing a power train from a crashed F-150 4x4. I see engines with all the parts, AC, PS, computer, wiring harness etc. with matching transmission and transfer case on E Bay for about that same $7000 price. Granted it will have some miles on it, but they run quite a while. Some folks swap in the old Chevy 292 engines, but I'd like more guts than that. There is a fairly popular Cummins diesel swap too, but I would prefer a quieter gas option. I'm thinking there's just more support for doing either and LS or the Ford 5.0 (Coyote) swap. Torque at low revs is more beneficial than a higher revving hot rod motor. Anyway, I'm looking for some opinions to help me decide on which way to go.
Brakes will need to be upgraded, and they have disc kits for a painful amount of money. We may swap the leafs to coil springs, but I think I want to get it running and driving first before we make that decision. So many choices....I'd prefer not to make the wrong ones out of the gate. It has a fairly narrow wheelbase, so only a few axle swaps can work without major mods.
This won't be a quick project, and I'm OK with that. Here's a few more pics.
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This makes me laugh, there's not even an engine, and this thing still drips oil! LMAO
View attachment 1105823 The see through engine bay.
Here's one that has been restored from BAT to give you an idea of the after photo.
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Here's one done by ECD who builds some amazing old Defenders:
I appreciate all the creative thinking, but going with an LS is going to be simpler. There's adapter kits and wiring harnesses available all over. Nothing custom or proprietary needed. That KISS method has some merit.
The 2JZ costs more by itself than an LS package with transmission and transfer case. I know this won't be cheap, but I'll probably shoot my wad on brakes and the interior. Keeping the running gear reasonable is a place where I can get a good bang for the buck.
1995 Grand Cherokee was the first year with rear disk brakes. 1998 was the only year offered with the 5.9, kind of like looking for a unicorn though.Forgot you're in San Diego1995 JeepGrand Cherokee Limited 4x4 - cars & trucks - by owner -...
1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee limited 4x4, 140k original miles, sunroof, leather seats, ac/stereo. $2850 cash only no trades pleasesandiego.craigslist.org
That's perfect. Probably hauls ass, has a hitch and still decent mileage. A work truck with style!Just a thought:
How much is the disc brake kit alone for those rover axles?
I have a ‘69 landcruiser with non-boosted master, drums front and rear, 35” tires. It stops great. Drums are more maintenance keeping them adjusted, and really only lack in performance after getting wet IMO. I bought the truck with the drums having been recently rebuilt, i likely would not have spent the money replacing all the wheel cylinders and pads. That being said, I would not spend $3k to put discs on this truck.There's a few options if we stay with the original axles. But about $3000 to swap over to disk brakes. Forbyn Brothers makes a cool set. Another option is to buy a wrecked or blown engine Discovery and swap axles to get disc brakes and spring suspension.
After going silent for months, I figured you had come to your senses and abandoned the project.There's a few options if we stay with the original axles. But about $3000 to swap over to disk brakes. Forbyn Brothers makes a cool set. Another option is to buy a wrecked or blown engine Discovery and swap axles to get disc brakes and spring suspension.
LOL, no. Not yet anyway. I have an offer out for a motor/trans/transfer case package. Just been buried with work this year.
So time to finish the Cobra ? Or is that wrap and I missed it ??just go ahead and break your foot. youd be amazed at how much time that frees up
So time to finish the Cobra ? Or is that wrap and I missed it ??
You only need that foot to take off, just float the gears from therethis fall/winter is the plan.
right now, ive got to pull the Lightning out of storage and fix the coolant leak at the hoses (mostly on my back work I hope) so I can drive it for the next month or so. My doctor could not believe I drove a stick shift to the office for xrays with a broken left foot lol. I told them, "I didnt know it was broken at the time!" but she still gave me a dirty look.
You only need that foot to take off, just float the gears from there
It's just a ranger, who cares, practice makes perfectya but with my luck, id hit a shopping cart left in the middle of the parking lot while trying to float them
Spoken like a true MillenialIt's just a ranger, who cares
Not me, I'm older than that. LolSpoken like a true Millenial
meh, age is a number. im about as mature as a 2nd graderNot me, I'm older than that. Lol
I've got one. It's an Isuzu and has been discontinued. I don't think I would go that way. The 4Cyl Cummins still seems the best bet to me. Ian Johnson did a build I am guessing @Mandelon has seen. Did you settle on a drivetrain yet?Didn’t chevy make a 4x4 diesel Colorado? Take the power train from one of those.