Airplane towing a sign over the lake?

[was thatguy]

So I’ve seen airplanes towing big signs (flags) over the lake pretty much everyday lately.
I was just watching off my back porch and it looked like a plane was struggling with a big red flag or sign into the wind. It didn’t really look like he was making any headway at all, but it was far away from me and hard to see exactly what the deal was.
Then it looked like he cut the sign loose because he had almost no airspeed.

Anyone else see this?
Like 20 minutes ago.

 

[was thatguy]

I saw him yesterday with a big yellow banner and I was surprised he stayed in the air he was going so slow
Wind kicking up today. Maybe it was too much for him

That’s what it looked like.
I was judging his headway against the CA mountains and it frankly looked like it wasn’t moving, and possibly losing altitude.
Then the banner sort of crumpled and started falling.
I assumed he cut it loose.

 

[riverroyal]

Do they put the banner on the same treadmill when it takes off?

 

[Ziggy]

What have the banners been saying? I saw one flying around midweek but was too far to read. I thought it odd to be flying one after weekend crowds gone so my assumption is it's political.

 

[attitude]

Last weekend he was towing around a big Geico banner Friday- Sunday all day it seemed.

 

[JB in so cal]

Do they put the banner on the same treadmill when it takes off?

Homo

 

[was thatguy]

Do they put the banner on the same treadmill when it takes off?

That actually popped in my head when I saw it, and made me laugh.

Technically speaking the wings only know what the airspeed over the surfaces is, they don’t really care about the airplane speed.
so a fixed wing plane could “hover” with enough headwind. Like a wind tunnel.
A headwind strong enough to halt forward motion also would provide lift.
But the sign is an anchor big time obviously.

 

[79 HUSTLER]

What have the banners been saying? I saw one flying around midweek but was too far to read. I thought it odd to be flying one after weekend crowds gone so my assumption is it's political.

Geico ads.

 

[lbhsbz]

If it didn't fall out of the sky...it had adequate airspeed

 

[was thatguy]

If it didn't fall out of the sky...it had adequate airspeed

I think he was.
Sure looked like he was losing altitude. Pulling a huge windsock will do that.

 

[River Runnin]

Last weekend he was towing around a big Geico banner Friday- Sunday all day it seemed.

This time of year? Likely Viagra!

Sounds like the plane coulda used a dose!

 

[JayBreww]

What have the banners been saying? I saw one flying around midweek but was too far to read. I thought it odd to be flying one after weekend crowds gone so my assumption is it's political.

RD for Mayor.


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[QC22]

Geico ads.

The red one today was T-Mobile.

Edit: He's still in the air with the banner. Going across the basin now.

 

[Singleton]

Must be training to get hours or someone realized the advertising $ doing they @ the beach is not penciling out

 

[The Prisoner]

The grandson was trying to read it yesterday while stuck at the light at the bridge. Lot of traffic. Could have read 100 planes

 

[DWC]

Found him or at least found one.

 

[TrollerDave]

Can’t believe nobody said it yet,

“He should have tried a different prop”

 

[The Phantom]

That actually popped in my head when I saw it, and made me laugh.

Technically speaking the wings only know what the airspeed over the surfaces is, they don’t really care about the airplane speed.
so a fixed wing plane could “hover” with enough headwind. Like a wind tunnel.
A headwind strong enough to halt forward motion also would provide lift.
But the sign is an anchor big time obviously.

What you’re describing is called relative wind.
Air speed is constant what changes is ground speed.

 

[rivermobster]

If it didn't fall out of the sky...it had adequate airspeed

So if a plane is flying north, at 80mph...

And the wind is blowing south at 90 mph...

How long would it take to get from the channel to havasu springs?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

 

[The Phantom]

So if a plane is flying north, at 80mph...

And the wind is blowing south at 90 mph...

How long would it take to get from the channel to havasu springs?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

Probably never would get there

 

[rivermobster]

Probably never would get there

But I'm hungry!

 

[The Prisoner]

Found him or at least found one.
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Is that Tmobile? Is that what they’re spending my$106 a month on????

 

[The Prisoner]

So if a plane is flying north, at 80mph...

And the wind is blowing south at 90 mph...

How long would it take to get from the channel to havasu springs?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

Math? On a Saturday????

 

[The Phantom]

But I'm hungry!

In this case I think getting in the car and driving would be much faster

 

[rivermobster]

Math? On a Saturday????

You're lucky I didn't throw a treadmill into the equation!

In this case I think getting in the car and driving would be much faster

Ok. I'll take that under advisement.

 

[lbhsbz]

So if a plane is flying north, at 80mph...

And the wind is blowing south at 90 mph...

How long would it take to get from the channel to havasu springs?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

3 beers

 

[rivermobster]

3 beers

This is the answer I was looking for.

 

[240Hallett]

So if a plane is flying north, at 80mph...

And the wind is blowing south at 90 mph...

How long would it take to get from the channel to havasu springs?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

The math says the wind is pushing the plane backwards at about 10 miles an hour. So about two hours

 

[buck35]

Does anyone even understand math any longer.....

 

[The Phantom]

The math says the wind is pushing the plane backwards at about 10 miles an hour. So about two hours

Maybe the plane should fly south forward.

 

[Activated]

So if a plane is flying north, at 80mph...

And the wind is blowing south at 90 mph...

How long would it take to get from the channel to havasu springs?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

2 weeks

 

[DRYHEAT]

So if a plane is flying north, at 80mph...

And the wind is blowing south at 90 mph...

How long would it take to get from the channel to havasu springs?

Inquiring minds wanna know...

Isn’t that like reverse for airplanes?

or if you like Ron white all the way to the scene of the crash When he runs out of fuel
And you never told us where he was flying to

 

[rivermobster]

Isn’t that like reverse for airplanes?

or if you like Ron white all the way to the scene of the crash When he runs out of fuel
And you never told us where he was flying to

Yes I did...

I just didn't say where he was flying from!

All I know for sure is...

I'm Still hungry, and I'm not there yet!

 

[DRYHEAT]

Yes I did...

I just didn't say where he was flying from!

All I know for sure is...

I'm Still hungry, and I'm not there yet!

Reading comprehension was never my strong suit. After re-reading your postI’m thinking it would take a little over an hour. But then again math isn’t one of my strong suits either. Isn’t it about 12 or 13 miles as the crow flies? FIIK

 

[was thatguy]

The math says the wind is pushing the plane backwards at about 10 miles an hour. So about two hours

He never specified ground speed or airspeed.

If an airplane is going 80 MPH GPS then it’s covering 80 mph with an airspeed of 170 MPH into a 90 mph headwind.

80 MPH airspeed into a 90MPH headwind and he’s better be looking in his mirror for a big open field! Lol

 

[rivermobster]

He never specified ground speed or airspeed.

If an airplane is going 80 MPH GPS then it’s covering 80 mph with an airspeed of 170 MPH into a 90 mph headwind.

80 MPH airspeed into a 90MPH headwind and he’s better be looking in his mirror for a big open field! Lol

Is there food in this open field? I'm still hungry dammit!

 

[The Phantom]

He never specified ground speed or airspeed.

If an airplane is going 80 MPH GPS then it’s covering 80 mph with an airspeed of 170 MPH into a 90 mph headwind.

80 MPH airspeed into a 90MPH headwind and he’s better be looking in his mirror for a big open field! Lol

If winds aloft are 90 MPH at 3000 ft MSL (the altitude I’m flying, wind direction 180 degrees and the aircraft is headed 360 degrees TAS for the aircraft is 80 MPH. I’m staying on the Ground.