The Prisoner
Well-Known RDP Prisoner Inmate #283
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Fixed it.I agree, that title was deceiving...
Silly discipline if you ask me, not enough.. Those draft picks should go to the Dodgers. Especially since they said the investigation revealed they stole signs during the World Series, not just "the season"..So Pete Rose gets banned for life for betting on games.
But you cheat to win the world series and only get a year.
Makes perfect sense.
So Pete Rose gets banned for life for betting on games.
But you cheat to win the world series and only get a year.
Makes perfect sense.
I know the report says that they couldn't prove that the cheating helped them win the World Series, but with Cora doing the same thing with the Red Sox with the same result should make it clear that it did impact the series and hence give them the title..Alex Cora is next.
He honestly needs to be. He was apparently a big part of it.Alex Cora is next.
He honestly needs to be. He was apparently a big part of it.
I think highly of Hinch and Luhnow, but like Jim Crane said, if they knew about what was going on, they failed to act on it which was their job. This shit embarrassed the owner and the fans. Shame on other players that let it go on to such a degree. The 'Stros have the talent to win without silly cheating schemes.
It will be interesting to see if others come forward.....Really taints the clubhouse and what they achieved
Do you guys honestly believe that everybody isn't doing this in some form? When my daughter played club softball, there was a coach that would come and help with fielding. He was a drafted minor league player with I want to say the A's, if I remember correctly. One of his things to do was watch the signs from the both sides and take notes. He said they would make a spreadsheet after the games and compare them with prior games. I know it's not the extent of what the Astros and Sox were doing, but it is a gateway to doing it.
I guess there would only be a penalty if you were to get caught...Manfred warned everyone a few years ago there would be harsh penalties after the Apple watch fiasco with the Red Sox.
I guess there would only be a penalty if you were to get caught...
Everybody tries to pick signs , but not with computer aided technology. Trying to remember signs is one thing Doing what the Astros did is bush league and all the other teams sufferedDo you guys honestly believe that everybody isn't doing this in some form? When my daughter played club softball, there was a coach that would come and help with fielding. He was a drafted minor league player with I want to say the A's, if I remember correctly. One of his things to do was watch the signs from the both sides and take notes. He said they would make a spreadsheet after the games and compare them with prior games. I know it's not the extent of what the Astros and Sox were doing, but it is a gateway to doing it.
I think both will work again somewhere. Luhnow is too good and distant enough that he may not be as affected. Hinch is great manager but was kinda in the midst of what should never have happened. He could sit awhile depending on what ones up with Cora. I think in the end, the bulk of this falls on Cora.....What I wonder is will Hinch and the GM ever be hired by another club. One thing for sure it’s the owner who matters and obviously he didn’t know and dropped the hammer big time. Frier’s who plays for the A’s was the one who spilled the beans, never read why he did that. I know there’s the comment everybody is doing it but getting caught and how they were doing it was there undoing. They lost major draft picks which is how they got good in the first place by losing 100 games more than once. Kind of fitting in a way that’s just my take.
What I wonder is will Hinch and the GM ever be hired by another club. One thing for sure it’s the owner who matters and obviously he didn’t know and dropped the hammer big time. Frier’s who plays for the A’s was the one who spilled the beans, never read why he did that. I know there’s the comment everybody is doing it but getting caught and how they were doing it was there undoing. They lost major draft picks which is how they got good in the first place by losing 100 games more than once. Kind of fitting in a way that’s just my take.
Oh quit beggin'....Fuck the Lastros......fuck the Red Sox.....and fuck Cora......the championships should be vacated....no brainer. Their actions had an impact on the outcome of the World Series.....they cheated...period. Shit....USC had their shit stripped for that weenie Bush just accepting benefits.
Fuck the Lastros......fuck the Red Sox.....and fuck Cora......the championships should be vacated....no brainer. Their actions had an impact on the outcome of the World Series.....they cheated...period. Shit....USC had their shit stripped for that weenie Bush just accepting benefits.
Oh quit beggin'....
Quit beggin?....lol......so setting up cameras in center field to steal signs is acceptable? This ain't no coach and player on second base stealing signs from painted fingernails of the catcher. Someone made the decision to ok cameras being set up....that turned it into an organizational thing. The whole franchise should pay the consequences. You build a team with a huge amount of talent and you have to resort to cheating to give you an edge? What a slap in the face to the players.Oh quit beggin'....
Do you guys honestly believe that everybody isn't doing this in some form? When my daughter played club softball, there was a coach that would come and help with fielding. He was a drafted minor league player with I want to say the A's, if I remember correctly. One of his things to do was watch the signs from the both sides and take notes. He said they would make a spreadsheet after the games and compare them with prior games. I know it's not the extent of what the Astros and Sox were doing, but it is a gateway to doing it.
Not like that they dont.All the teams cheat
is this on the same level of the White Sox of 1919?
I think you guys are missing my point. If they are going to this much trouble in the minors, think what most if not all are doing in the majors. They are just being more discreet or maybe put it on the shelf for now since the heat is on. Hell we were stealing signs in Little League, only difference is my parent weren’t video taping them and showing us later.Stealing signs is as old as baseball itself. If your dumb enough not to use sequencing or other forms of deception to hide your signs then you deserve to have your signs stolen. This difference in the Astros and Red Sox cases is they used live video feed to relay the signs to the batter after MLB issued a notice to all teams that this was forbidden. (Note: I'm sure it had been going on for years before MLB issued notice!)
He can just move down the street, heard the Patriots have an opening...Cora is gonzo.
Like I said in the other thread...... What you described is essentially learning a player/teams tendencies for calling certain pitches in certain situations. If you can't relay that info to the batter in real time, it just helps the anylitics of the game.l and has been a part of the game since the beginning.Do you guys honestly believe that everybody isn't doing this in some form? When my daughter played club softball, there was a coach that would come and help with fielding. He was a drafted minor league player with I want to say the A's, if I remember correctly. One of his things to do was watch the signs from the both sides and take notes. He said they would make a spreadsheet after the games and compare them with prior games. I know it's not the extent of what the Astros and Sox were doing, but it is a gateway to doing it.
I recall it wasn't even Reggie that took the bennie's but it was his shit-for-brains step dad that took them "on his behalf" but yet used them (most a Hummer if I recall) exclusively himself.Fuck the Lastros......fuck the Red Sox.....and fuck Cora......the championships should be vacated....no brainer. Their actions had an impact on the outcome of the World Series.....they cheated...period. Shit....USC had their shit stripped for that weenie Bush just accepting benefits.
Cora is out as Red Sox manager, says they mutually agreed to part ways.
It went down something like this:
Owner: Alex can you come into my office. I want to talk to you about this cheating scandal.
Alex Cora: Fuck You I quit !!!
Sounds like the same system where the dealer has an Ace in the hole.