America wasn't always a nation of fat asses

[monkeyswrench]

How long did it take to build the dam, powerplant, and appurtenant works? Five years. The contractors were allowed seven years from April 20, 1931, but concrete placement in the dam was completed May 29, 1935, and all features were completed by March 1, 1936

Isn't it sad though. They finished a massively impressive project in less time than it takes to do an environmental impact study now. They did so with tools and equipment archaic by modern standards, and nothing it the way of computer calculations or modeling.

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

And when did we pay people to go to work in the Great Recession, or Covid, or any recession in the last 40 years? We just gave people money. There was no unemployment insurance safety net 100 years ago.

The government just had people dig a hole and fill it up again and paid them. That was a much better system, as it kept work ethic at least.

We aren't going back to that. It is easier to just send checks.

I dont know what would happen. I have faith in humanity

 

[TCHB]

Went to Italy and you could sure could see spot the Americans. Sad

 

[DC-88]

Food pyramid was nothing more than a consumerism clap trap from food industry using government to influence the "slobs" to buy their slop. I know everyone has heard it a million times but look into what "eating clean" actually means. It's not light foods with high fructose corn syrup replacing fats. Or industrial waste products like cotton seed oils in our food to make it cheaper but is "heart healthy" in a static test.

The more you ask questions and learn the more you realize most of us consume garbage.

Give this book a read- not saying it’s gospel but there is a lot of truth in there -

 

[17 10 Flat]

It would be built by union labor, take 20 years, and cost 100 billion dollars if built today.

For reference, it actually cost $760 million in today’s dollars ($49M then) and took 5 years.

First they would have to build a bullit train to deliver material faster..

 

[JL95]

It's cool to see J.F. Shea's involvement in both the Hoover Dam and The Golden Gate bridge. They have the pics on the walls of their lobbies.

 

[Justfishing]

Just plain lazy.

People are too lazy to buy the fresh food and cook. If makes me laugh when I see a cooking show. They cook with a shit load of salt and butter, well no shit it tastes good. Try cooking something with out a lot of those and still make it taste good.

Now after you have eaten, whether is was healthy or not get off the couch and go for a walk. Go play a sport, just get moving. You will be happier.

Cooking with butter is good for you. Its the sugar, oils and other processed foods.

Salt is only bad for you because of the excess glucose and high insulin levels that most oeople have. Insulin is a factor in salt retention. Gluclose causes water retention. Excess salt retention caused by high insulin along with high gluclose causes a body to retain to much water leading to high blood pressure. Get your insulin and gluclose down and the body can regulate salt and thus blood pressure.

A high fat diet is not bad for you and is much healthier that processed food that lacks nutritional value.

 

[rrrr]

Beat me to it.

Seriously, WTF??

Do these photos of shirtless young males produce a feeling of unease in you? Maybe this is an unresolved sexual response that you have been subconsciously suppressing for years.

Perhaps you should engage the services of a professional counselor or psychiatrist to explore these feelings. It would be a more positive step, and could provide you with a reason you've been driving down darkened streets late at night in a particular section of town.

Whatever you decide, the members at RDP will still be your friends, support you, and accept you.

 

[Willie B]

Do these photos of shirtless young males produce a feeling of unease in you? Maybe this is an unresolved sexual response that you have been subconsciously supressing for years.

Perhaps you should engage the services of a professional counselor or psychiatrist to explore these feelings. It would be a more positive step, and could provide you with a reason you've been driving down darkened streets late at night in a particular section of town.

Whatever you decide, the members at RDP will still be your friends, support you, and accept you.

…Lol…

 

[707dog]

Wall-E

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this movie was pretty spot on to what is happening in society now, even with all the A.I developments

 

[Cray Paper]

Cool pics from a long time ago. Yes workers were in much better shape almost 100 years ago, no doubt. I've worked in the commercial construction industry industry since 1988 and in the carpenters union since 1991.

RRR, not trying to single you out, but you started this thread. I would put money on this (I do not gamble because I've always understood how hard it is to earn money) that you have no fucking idea or life experience with working with your hands and body on commercial construction for a living.

I looked like the poster Childs in you initial post for the first 10 years in the carpenters union. When you prove yourself as more than competent, you are asked to do more heavy lifting on the mental side to compensate for the bean counters, college educated staff that ultimately controls projects and our employment. These superior people are not capable of understanding what it takes to actually build shit in an efficient and logical manner that supports the contractors they sign up to do the work.

It isnt as simple as you are portraying.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Meanwhile....some of you weenies are pushing pencils and posting on RDP all day.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Do these photos of shirtless young males produce a feeling of unease in you? Maybe this is an unresolved sexual response that you have been subconsciously suppressing for years.

Perhaps you should engage the services of a professional counselor or psychiatrist to explore these feelings. It would be a more positive step, and could provide you with a reason you've been driving down darkened streets late at night in a particular section of town.

Whatever you decide, the members at RDP will still be your friends, support you, and accept you.

He's not into dudes....he's into hamsters ...dontchya know?

 

[rrrr]

RRR, not trying to single you out, but you started this thread. I would put money on this (I do not gamble because I've always understood how hard it is to earn money) that you have no fucking idea or life experience with working with your hands and body on commercial construction for a living.

LOL...you have no fucking idea.

I started working in my Dad's commercial and industrial sheet metal business at age 11 (1968), picking up sheet metal scrap and dropoffs from a Wysong 10-10 shear after hours and on Saturdays because it was a union shop. Pay was 50¢/hour. By age 17 I was doing subcontract installs for small commercial HVAC projects. On the day I graduated from high school, I took delivery of a 4WD K20 Suburban Silverado. I paid cash for it with money from my sub work.

When I was 19, I moved to Houston and started a commercial drywall firm that eventually employed about 20 tradesmen. Among other projects, the company built out 500,000 SF of TI work for a single developer. At 23 I went back to work for my Dad, my first project was as the mechanical superintendent on an Exxon Minerals pilot plant facility, and I also oversaw two large airport construction projects. At age 26, I worked two years for Brown & Root (the largest contractor in the world at that time) as an all trades QC inspector on a 10 story hospital for MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

At age 28, I was general superintendent on a jet engine test cell for the Navy at NAS Kingsville, TX. I have a letter somewhere from a Navy Captain at Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command commending me for building the best managed and constructed jet engine test cell facility the Navy had commissioned during the nationwide project that built several of them at Naval Air Stations around the US during the same time period.

At 32, I went to work as a general superintendent then project manager for a Dallas GC building data centers. Did that until 1994, then went to work for another GC that built data centers in the DFW market. In 2004, I bought out the owners, by that time project size and scope along with annual revenues had significantly increased.

By 2009 company annual revenues had more than doubled, and we were performing data center projects all over the country that included stuff like placing 2 Mw gensets on the roofs of 20+ story buildings in downtown Houston and Newark. I routinely did preliminary design and engineering of HVAC and electrical systems for large data centers before hiring A & E firms to produce construction documents. But I was ill.

Two years later, after battling increasingly significant and debilating orthopedic issues, I closed the business when failed knee replacements and infection, along with an osteoarthritis condition called DISH, made it impossible to work any longer. This was brought on by early football injuries and a lifetime of busting my ass and working long hours. I didn't have the ability to fight through that, and the economic conditions of the time made things even more difficult.

Along the way I earned journeyman plumbing and electrical licenses, AWS welding and other industry certifications, hands on proficiency in just about every trade including site utilities, multistory steel erection, large welded HVAC piping systems, crane and rigging, precision concrete forming and pouring, refrigeration, digital and PLC HVAC controls, medical gases, and many more.

So yeah, I've worked with my hands and body. I'm reminded of that almost every hour of every day.

But it's impressive you're a union carpenter.

 

[Justfishing]

Cool pics from a long time ago. Yes workers were in much better shape almost 100 years ago, no doubt. I've worked in the commercial construction industry industry since 1988 and in the carpenters union since 1991.

RRR, not trying to single you out, but you started this thread. I would put money on this (I do not gamble because I've always understood how hard it is to earn money) that you have no fucking idea or life experience with working with your hands and body on commercial construction for a living.

I looked like the poster Childs in you initial post for the first 10 years in the carpenters union. When you prove yourself as more than competent, you are asked to do more heavy lifting on the mental side to compensate for the bean counters, college educated staff that ultimately controls projects and our employment. These superior people are not capable of understanding what it takes to actually build shit in an efficient and logical manner that supports the contractors they sign up to do the work.

It isnt as simple as you are portraying.

You cant exercise your way out of a bad diet. There are a couple of factors involved. One is insulin resistence. As you eat sugar and processed carbs you gluclose goes up. Your body produces insulin to contol gluclose. You go to the doctor and your gluclose is measured and it in a normal range because insulin is working. What they didnt measure was your insulin is high. That is a warning sign that is ignored. Next time at the dr get an inslin test and you should be below 10 but really closer to 5-7.

Over time high insulin leads to insulin resistence and basically you have diabetes you just dont need insulin yet. The process from high insulin to diagnosis of diabetes can be 20-30 years. There are about an equal number of normal weight people that have diabetes as compared to overweight. This is an insulin problem

In the late 1800s vegetable oils started being produced. It really took off in the 1930s. The graph of vegetible oil production and diabetes mirror each other. We consume more vegetable oils than ever and have the highest rates of diabetes.

The average person in the us consumes 150 lbs of sugar in a year and more than that of flour. Both lead to high gluclose. Sugar, vegetable oils and flour are mostly empty calories and people over consume. How many times have you seen someone eat 1 chip or 1 cookie. They eat until the package is gone. How many people have you seen eat a bag of avacados

There are no essential carbs. You can live your life without eating a carb. There are essential fats and proteins.

Vegetable oils are not a food your body recognizes they are a recently invented fake food. They contain calories but not nutrition. Thus they make you fat. These oils are high in omega 6 and are inflamatory.

Fats like animal fats, butter and certain oils like avacado and olive oils are nutrious. They make you full and keep you from over eating.

If you only ate meat and whole vegetables and limited your fruit(high sugar) you would look closer to the guys in post 1.

You can reverse type 2 diabetes, cure cancer and a host of other diseases by eliminating processed foods combined with timed eating and fasting.

This guy is quirky but has good info. This is a short video but he has many others. He was a dr for the white house. Like many doctors he has seen how the standard american diet is making us sick. This lead him to become a reasearcher and he studied visceral fat. He is a big proponent of HIIT training. At 65 i have started using HIIT. Along with diet changes i look more like dr sean. I am 5'9. 160 down from the 195 earlier this year.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

LOL...you have no fucking idea.

I started working in my Dad's commercial and industrial sheet metal business at age 11 (1968), picking up sheet metal scrap and dropoffs from a Wysong 10-10 shear after hours and on Saturdays because it was a union shop. Pay was 50¢/hour. By age 17 I was doing subcontract installs for small commercial HVAC projects. On the day I graduated from high school, I took delivery of a 4WD K20 Suburban Silverado. I paid cash for it with money from my sub work.

When I was 19, I moved to Houston and started a commercial drywall firm that eventually employed about 20 tradesmen. Among other projects, the company built out 500,000 SF of TI work for a single developer. At 23 I went back to work for my Dad, my first project was as the mechanical superintendent on an Exxon Minerals pilot plant facility, and I also oversaw two large airport construction projects. At age 26, I worked two years for Brown & Root (the largest contractor in the world at that time) as an all trades QC inspector on a 10 story hospital for MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

At age 28, I was general superintendent on a jet engine test cell for the Navy at NAS Kingsville, TX. I have a letter somewhere from a Navy Captain at Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command commending me for building the best managed and constructed jet engine test cell facility the Navy had commissioned during the nationwide project that built several of them at Naval Air Stations around the US during the same time period.

At 32, I went to work as a general superintendent then project manager for a Dallas GC building data centers. Did that until 1994, then went to work for another GC that built data centers in the DFW market. In 2004, I bought out the owners, by that time project size and scope along with annual revenues had significantly increased.

By 2009 company annual revenues had more than doubled, and we were performing data center projects all over the country that included stuff like placing 2 Mw gensets on the roofs of 20+ story buildings in downtown Houston and Newark. I routinely did preliminary design and engineering of HVAC and electrical systems for large data centers before hiring A & E firms to produce construction documents. But I was ill.

Two years later, after battling increasingly significant and debilating orthopedic issues, I closed the business when failed knee replacements and infection, along with an osteoarthritis condition called DISH, made it impossible to work any longer. This was brought on by early football injuries and a lifetime of busting my ass and working long hours. I didn't have the ability to fight through that, and the economic conditions of the time made things even more difficult.

Along the way I earned journeyman plumbing and electrical licenses, AWS welding and other industry certifications, hands on proficiency in just about every trade including site utilities, multistory steel erection, large welded HVAC piping systems, crane and rigging, precision concrete forming and pouring, refrigeration, digital and PLC HVAC controls, medical gases, and many more.

So yeah, I've worked with my hands and body. I'm reminded of that almost every hour of every day.

But it's impressive you're a union carpenter.

Good thing he didn't put any money on that.

 

[mbrown2]

LOL...you have no fucking idea.

I started working in my Dad's commercial and industrial sheet metal business at age 11 (1968), picking up sheet metal scrap and dropoffs from a Wysong 10-10 shear after hours and on Saturdays because it was a union shop. Pay was 50¢/hour. By age 17 I was doing subcontract installs for small commercial HVAC projects. On the day I graduated from high school, I took delivery of a 4WD K20 Suburban Silverado. I paid cash for it with money from my sub work.

When I was 19, I moved to Houston and started a commercial drywall firm that eventually employed about 20 tradesmen. Among other projects, the company built out 500,000 SF of TI work for a single developer. At 23 I went back to work for my Dad, my first project was as the mechanical superintendent on an Exxon Minerals pilot plant facility, and I also oversaw two large airport construction projects. At age 26, I worked two years for Brown & Root (the largest contractor in the world at that time) as an all trades QC inspector on a 10 story hospital for MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

At age 28, I was general superintendent on a jet engine test cell for the Navy at NAS Kingsville, TX. I have a letter somewhere from a Navy Captain at Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command commending me for building the best managed and constructed jet engine test cell facility the Navy had commissioned during the nationwide project that built several of them at Naval Air Stations around the US during the same time period.

At 32, I went to work as a general superintendent then project manager for a Dallas GC building data centers. Did that until 1994, then went to work for another GC that built data centers in the DFW market. In 2004, I bought out the owners, by that time project size and scope along with annual revenues had significantly increased.

By 2009 company annual revenues had more than doubled, and we were performing data center projects all over the country that included stuff like placing 2 Mw gensets on the roofs of 20+ story buildings in downtown Houston and Newark. I routinely did preliminary design and engineering of HVAC and electrical systems for large data centers before hiring A & E firms to produce construction documents. But I was ill.

Two years later, after battling increasingly significant and debilating orthopedic issues, I closed the business when failed knee replacements and infection, along with an osteoarthritis condition called DISH, made it impossible to work any longer. This was brought on by early football injuries and a lifetime of busting my ass and working long hours. I didn't have the ability to fight through that, and the economic conditions of the time made things even more difficult.

Along the way I earned journeyman plumbing and electrical licenses, AWS welding and other industry certifications, hands on proficiency in just about every trade including site utilities, multistory steel erection, large welded HVAC piping systems, crane and rigging, precision concrete forming and pouring, refrigeration, digital and PLC HVAC controls, medical gases, and many more.

So yeah, I've worked with my hands and body. I'm reminded of that almost every hour of every day.

But it's impressive you're a union carpenter.

Impressive resume!

 

[poncho]

Went to Italy and you could sure could see spot the Americans. Sad

Friend of mine is a government IT contractor working all over Europe and the Middle East, he say's exactly that wherever he goes.

 

[playdeep]

LOL...you have no fucking idea.

I started working in my Dad's commercial and industrial sheet metal business at age 11 (1968), picking up sheet metal scrap and dropoffs from a Wysong 10-10 shear after hours and on Saturdays because it was a union shop. Pay was 50¢/hour. By age 17 I was doing subcontract installs for small commercial HVAC projects. On the day I graduated from high school, I took delivery of a 4WD K20 Suburban Silverado. I paid cash for it with money from my sub work.

When I was 19, I moved to Houston and started a commercial drywall firm that eventually employed about 20 tradesmen. Among other projects, the company built out 500,000 SF of TI work for a single developer. At 23 I went back to work for my Dad, my first project was as the mechanical superintendent on an Exxon Minerals pilot plant facility, and I also oversaw two large airport construction projects. At age 26, I worked two years for Brown & Root (the largest contractor in the world at that time) as an all trades QC inspector on a 10 story hospital for MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

At age 28, I was general superintendent on a jet engine test cell for the Navy at NAS Kingsville, TX. I have a letter somewhere from a Navy Captain at Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command commending me for building the best managed and constructed jet engine test cell facility the Navy had commissioned during the nationwide project that built several of them at Naval Air Stations around the US during the same time period.

At 32, I went to work as a general superintendent then project manager for a Dallas GC building data centers. Did that until 1994, then went to work for another GC that built data centers in the DFW market. In 2004, I bought out the owners, by that time project size and scope along with annual revenues had significantly increased.

By 2009 company annual revenues had more than doubled, and we were performing data center projects all over the country that included stuff like placing 2 Mw gensets on the roofs of 20+ story buildings in downtown Houston and Newark. I routinely did preliminary design and engineering of HVAC and electrical systems for large data centers before hiring A & E firms to produce construction documents. But I was ill.

Two years later, after battling increasingly significant and debilating orthopedic issues, I closed the business when failed knee replacements and infection, along with an osteoarthritis condition called DISH, made it impossible to work any longer. This was brought on by early football injuries and a lifetime of busting my ass and working long hours. I didn't have the ability to fight through that, and the economic conditions of the time made things even more difficult.

Along the way I earned journeyman plumbing and electrical licenses, AWS welding and other industry certifications, hands on proficiency in just about every trade including site utilities, multistory steel erection, large welded HVAC piping systems, crane and rigging, precision concrete forming and pouring, refrigeration, digital and PLC HVAC controls, medical gases, and many more.

So yeah, I've worked with my hands and body. I'm reminded of that almost every hour of every day.

But it's impressive you're a union carpenter.

I read that guy's post&thought...
This is gonna be ugly...it was.

You left out the fact that in high school you water skied regularly behind a 70 Bronco with a rope tied to the rear bumper in drainage ditches...

 

[rrrr]

I read that guy's post&thought...
This is gonna be ugly...it was.

You left out the fact that in high school you water skied regularly behind a 70 Bronco with a rope tied to the rear bumper in drainage ditches...

Hahaha...

We skied behind Benny's Bronco and my Land Cruiser with the tops removed in the irrigation ditch paralleling the east side of the Rio Grande at Alameda Blvd. The ditch was pretty narrow, but it ran straight for almost a mile.

The rope was tied off to the top of the rollbar. Getting up required a sorta beach start on the opposite bank from the road. One had to get the ski up on top of the water and turn before hitting the near ditch bank.

One morning at school we decided to hit the ditch. The skis and rope were already in the back of the Land Cruiser, but no one had a swimsuit. We went anyway, and soon were making runs in tighty whities. A Bernalillo County deputy pulled up just as Larry Buynak was ready to start. The deputy was a crackup, he told us if Larry got up on the first try, he was gonna go away, but if Larry crashed, he was going to ticket us for trespassing and call our parents.

Buynak nailed it, the deputy left, and we kept on skiing.

Didja know we used to ski on the paved streets of Sandia Heights at night? We would go up to the ski rental shop at the tramway, open it up with Benny's keys, and grab a few pairs of beater skis. The tow vehicles were the same as water skiing.

The metal edges of the skis made nice spark trails until they were worn down to nothing. There was a significant penalty associated with going down, street pizza scabs were common.

 

[rrrr]

Good thing he didn't put any money on that.

Notice he hasn't come back for a second helping.

 

[TCHB]

Friend of mine is a government IT contractor working all over Europe and the Middle East, he say's exactly that wherever he goes.

The odd thing in Italy, a lot of the fit ladies were eating pasta and gelato At the outdoor cafe!

 

[Willie B]

I read that guy's post&thought...
This is gonna be ugly...it was.

You left out the fact that in high school you water skied regularly behind a 70 Bronco with a rope tied to the rear bumper in drainage ditches...

… I honestly could not believe what that guy posted… but then I considered the source … over the past few years. He has made some …out there posts… mainly his troubled, relationship posts…
…Was alcohol, a contributing factor of that post, …don’t know… I wasn’t there???… but he picked on one of the kindest most well-thought-out members on the forum… …we’re back to …Dunno???

 

[H20 Toie]

Isn't it sad though. They finished a massively impressive project in less time than it takes to do an environmental impact study now. They did so with tools and equipment archaic by modern standards, and nothing it the way of computer calculations or modeling.

That is true
But
Most of those projects ended up killing some of the workers in the process

A memorial plaque, honoring the 96 workers known to have died constructing Hoover Dam, which straddles the Arizona and Nevada borders on the Colorado River

1 photograph : digital, tiff file, color.

www.loc.gov

 

[Riverfamlee]

Well you guys for ruining my lunch. I just heated up my pizza and was going to catch up on some RDP and come across this shit

 

[RiverDave]

It is an interesting subject.. if you look at pics from the 50’s nobody is fat.. 60’s same.. 70’s same.. 80’s there is a drastic shift.. 90’s it’s a mix like 50/50.. 2000’s and up its game over..

If ya look at that same timeline it’s about the time fast food became mainstream and exploded.

RD

 

[poncho]

The odd thing in Italy, a lot of the fit ladies were eating pasta and gelato At the outdoor cafe!

Moderation

 

[TCHB]

Moderation

1. Street food in Italy is not fast food.
2. They tend to walk everywhere.
wine wine wine everywhere.

 

[TCHB]

Go to college

Obesity is a Common, Serious, and Costly Disease

Get the latest data and facts about adult obesity in the US.

www.cdc.gov

 

[playdeep]

Hahaha...

We skied behind Benny's Bronco and my Land Cruiser with the tops removed in the irrigation ditch paralleling the east side of the Rio Grande at Alameda Blvd. The ditch was pretty narrow, but it ran straight for almost a mile.

The rope was tied off to the top of the rollbar. Getting up required a sorta beach start on the opposite bank from the road. One had to get the ski up on top of the water and turn before hitting the near ditch bank.

One morning at school we decided to hit the ditch. The skis and rope were already in the back of the Land Cruiser, but no one had a swimsuit. We went anyway, and soon were making runs in tighty whities. A Bernalillo County deputy pulled up just as Larry Buynak was ready to start. The deputy was a crackup, he told us if Larry got up on the first try, he was gonna go away, but if Larry crashed, he was going to ticket us for trespassing and call our parents.

Buynak nailed it, the deputy left, and we kept on skiing.

Didja know we used to ski on the paved streets of Sandia Heights at night? We would go up to the ski rental shop at the tramway, open it up with Benny's keys, and grab a few pairs of beater skis. The tow vehicles were the same as water skiing.

The metal edges of the skis made nice spark trails until they were worn down to nothing. There was a significant penalty associated with going down, street pizza scabs were common.

Did that Road skiing thing many times w/Guy Jackson &Harrell back in the 70's.

Ya know it's funny,you start this thread which is((to me)pretty relevant and couple trolls decide to intervene. (Grads bootlicker&a guy who bleeds all over RDP whenever his latest psycho chick tries to kill him)...gotta love this place.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Go to college

Obesity is a Common, Serious, and Costly Disease

Get the latest data and facts about adult obesity in the US.

www.cdc.gov

Have you seen some of the kids on campuses these days? Maybe in different age brackets of college grads, but not the fresh grads as a whole.

I'm a 90's college drop-out. I weigh the same now as I did when I got married 23 years ago. Not in my best shape, but still able to do pull-ups and such. My brother has his masters, as does his wife, eat strictly from Sprouts or Trader Joe's. He's on meds for a few things, as is she.

Much more than college to keep one fit, maybe even some things from the individual

 

[TCHB]

Have you seen some of the kids on campuses these days? Maybe in different age brackets of college grads, but not the fresh grads as a whole.

I'm a 90's college drop-out. I weigh the same now as I did when I got married 23 years ago. Not in my best shape, but still able to do pull-ups and such. My brother has his masters, as does his wife, eat strictly from Sprouts or Trader Joe's. He's on meds for a few things, as is she.

Much more than college to keep one fit, maybe even some things from the individual

That what the data shows.

 

[TCHB]

https://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/downloads/unfit-to-serve-062322-508.pdf

 

[500bbc]

Bulking up the livestock
" To Serve Man".

 

[PlanB]

I graduated HS in 85 with about 3000 students total. We had very few fat kids.

 

[TCHB]

I graduated HS in 85 with about 3000 students total. We had very few fat kids.

A lot more than we had in 72.

 

[monkeyswrench]

That what the data shows.

The "data" also showed that China virus was going to kill 20% of the populace
I'll keep living how I live over how they say I should live. Made it this far!

 

[rrrr]

Did that Road skiing thing many times w/Guy Jackson &Harrell back in the 70's.

Ya know it's funny,you start this thread which is((to me)pretty relevant and couple trolls decide to intervene. (Grads bootlicker&a guy who bleeds all over RDP whenever his latest psycho chick tries to kill him)...gotta love this place.

Boy, thinking about those times and the families we interacted with brings back good memories. It seemed like most of our friends had three or four siblings, and steady parents like a TV show. How things change.

Guy was always ready for fun. I always enjoyed hanging out with him. Same with brother Will. Both good guys. I had a secret crush on Nina. She was cute, and sarcastic in a sorta sexy way, haha.

It was kinda shocking to hear of the tragedies visited on the Harrell family in the last year. Frank died some years ago, I think from a heart attack. You told me their mom was ill but I don't remember any updates. Losing a parent is so painful. I was saddened to learn Deena's husband died, then Mike passed away. How's Mark doing?

Their house was just a backyard fence away from my cul-de-sac. I waved at Mrs Harrell many mornings through her kitchen window when I hopped their fence going to the bus stop. Mark was always being his smartass self, and Deena tried hard to be a snooty somebody and one of the mean girls. Mike had that blue '68 Camaro with a 2.88 rear, it went something like 65 MPH in second gear, haha. My memories of the 70s overlaid on today's real life makes me think about how long it takes for a half century to roll out and be experienced.

GRADS will never changes it's just same shit different day. As for the bozo attack, which made no sense at all, I'm pretty sure excess alcohol consumption was involved. The good news is we can look forward to the next relationship train wreck and the drama reports. Can't be far away now.

The topic of Hoover Dam is always popular on RDP. It's the genesis of the activities that millions enjoy, and from a historical standpoint, it ranks among the most consequential and beneficial actions undertaken in the 247 year history of our country.

I've posted a few threads about the dam's construction, the people that built it, and how it allowed Southern California to prosper and grow. The electricity produced by its generators and the irrigation water it has provided to agriculture are literally the lifeblood of millions of Americans.

 

[coolchange]

LOL...you have no fucking idea.

I started working in my Dad's commercial and industrial sheet metal business at age 11 (1968), picking up sheet metal scrap and dropoffs from a Wysong 10-10 shear after hours and on Saturdays because it was a union shop. Pay was 50¢/hour. By age 17 I was doing subcontract installs for small commercial HVAC projects. On the day I graduated from high school, I took delivery of a 4WD K20 Suburban Silverado. I paid cash for it with money from my sub work.

When I was 19, I moved to Houston and started a commercial drywall firm that eventually employed about 20 tradesmen. Among other projects, the company built out 500,000 SF of TI work for a single developer. At 23 I went back to work for my Dad, my first project was as the mechanical superintendent on an Exxon Minerals pilot plant facility, and I also oversaw two large airport construction projects. At age 26, I worked two years for Brown & Root (the largest contractor in the world at that time) as an all trades QC inspector on a 10 story hospital for MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

At age 28, I was general superintendent on a jet engine test cell for the Navy at NAS Kingsville, TX. I have a letter somewhere from a Navy Captain at Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command commending me for building the best managed and constructed jet engine test cell facility the Navy had commissioned during the nationwide project that built several of them at Naval Air Stations around the US during the same time period.

At 32, I went to work as a general superintendent then project manager for a Dallas GC building data centers. Did that until 1994, then went to work for another GC that built data centers in the DFW market. In 2004, I bought out the owners, by that time project size and scope along with annual revenues had significantly increased.

By 2009 company annual revenues had more than doubled, and we were performing data center projects all over the country that included stuff like placing 2 Mw gensets on the roofs of 20+ story buildings in downtown Houston and Newark. I routinely did preliminary design and engineering of HVAC and electrical systems for large data centers before hiring A & E firms to produce construction documents. But I was ill.

Two years later, after battling increasingly significant and debilating orthopedic issues, I closed the business when failed knee replacements and infection, along with an osteoarthritis condition called DISH, made it impossible to work any longer. This was brought on by early football injuries and a lifetime of busting my ass and working long hours. I didn't have the ability to fight through that, and the economic conditions of the time made things even more difficult.

Along the way I earned journeyman plumbing and electrical licenses, AWS welding and other industry certifications, hands on proficiency in just about every trade including site utilities, multistory steel erection, large welded HVAC piping systems, crane and rigging, precision concrete forming and pouring, refrigeration, digital and PLC HVAC controls, medical gases, and many more.

So yeah, I've worked with my hands and body. I'm reminded of that almost every hour of every day.

But it's impressive you're a union carpenter.

So THERE

 

[riverroyal]

It's safe to say JBNSOCAL is still looking at post 1

 

[HBCraig]

I was reading an online account about the construction of Hoover Dam, and it included a gallery of photos taken during the 1931-1935 construction. The photos of the young men working are striking. Those guys worked eight hour shifts around the clock with just two days off per year, Christmas and the Fourth of July. It was incredibly hard work, and pay ranged from $.50 to $1.25 per hour.

As you can see, the workers were in fantastic physical condition.

The Men Who Built the Dam | American Experience | PBS

Hoover Dam was called one of the greatest engineering works in history. 5,000 working men and their families came to live in the Nevada desert. These are men whi built the dam.

www.pbs.org

When men were men. Legends

 

[Cray Paper]

LOL...you have no fucking idea.

I started working in my Dad's commercial and industrial sheet metal business at age 11 (1968), picking up sheet metal scrap and dropoffs from a Wysong 10-10 shear after hours and on Saturdays because it was a union shop. Pay was 50¢/hour. By age 17 I was doing subcontract installs for small commercial HVAC projects. On the day I graduated from high school, I took delivery of a 4WD K20 Suburban Silverado. I paid cash for it with money from my sub work.

When I was 19, I moved to Houston and started a commercial drywall firm that eventually employed about 20 tradesmen. Among other projects, the company built out 500,000 SF of TI work for a single developer. At 23 I went back to work for my Dad, my first project was as the mechanical superintendent on an Exxon Minerals pilot plant facility, and I also oversaw two large airport construction projects. At age 26, I worked two years for Brown & Root (the largest contractor in the world at that time) as an all trades QC inspector on a 10 story hospital for MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston.

At age 28, I was general superintendent on a jet engine test cell for the Navy at NAS Kingsville, TX. I have a letter somewhere from a Navy Captain at Naval Facilities Engineering Systems Command commending me for building the best managed and constructed jet engine test cell facility the Navy had commissioned during the nationwide project that built several of them at Naval Air Stations around the US during the same time period.

At 32, I went to work as a general superintendent then project manager for a Dallas GC building data centers. Did that until 1994, then went to work for another GC that built data centers in the DFW market. In 2004, I bought out the owners, by that time project size and scope along with annual revenues had significantly increased.

By 2009 company annual revenues had more than doubled, and we were performing data center projects all over the country that included stuff like placing 2 Mw gensets on the roofs of 20+ story buildings in downtown Houston and Newark. I routinely did preliminary design and engineering of HVAC and electrical systems for large data centers before hiring A & E firms to produce construction documents. But I was ill.

Two years later, after battling increasingly significant and debilating orthopedic issues, I closed the business when failed knee replacements and infection, along with an osteoarthritis condition called DISH, made it impossible to work any longer. This was brought on by early football injuries and a lifetime of busting my ass and working long hours. I didn't have the ability to fight through that, and the economic conditions of the time made things even more difficult.

Along the way I earned journeyman plumbing and electrical licenses, AWS welding and other industry certifications, hands on proficiency in just about every trade including site utilities, multistory steel erection, large welded HVAC piping systems, crane and rigging, precision concrete forming and pouring, refrigeration, digital and PLC HVAC controls, medical gases, and many more.

So yeah, I've worked with my hands and body. I'm reminded of that almost every hour of every day.

But it's impressive you're a union carpenter.

My dad was a residential GC when I was young and he had me and my brothers work weekends cleaning up jobsites, nailing off roofs etc. before we had 2 digits in our age.

General Supt at 28...Must have been a low hanging bar, in my neck of the woods you need 30 years + to get that title. I don't know you, but I know what I know and what the learning curve is for my life experiences in the trades. If you think you were a competent mechanical Supt at 23 YO, the worlds bestest construction QA/ QC inspector at 26, well..that tells me all I need to know about you. I don't doubt you have worked with your hands and are feeling the effects of working in the trades, but lighten up Francis, your not the only one.

 

[Tank]

The obesity epidemic started in the mid 70’s. What happened in the mid 70’s - explosion of fast food, soda wars, frozen food, microwave, ultra processed foods, hormone usage…perfect storm to fatten society. No more clean home cooked well rounded meals. Eating on the go with highly processed foods made with hormones, preservatives and sugar. Lots of sugar.

Look at any photos from the
Early 1900’s where large groups of people
Are walking around. Not a fat ass to be seen.

 

[RIVERBORN]

Man…. All you fat old men are arguing like skinny bitches. Haha. Just joking, don’t go on a 5 page rant. Lol.

 

[whiteworks]

Any dude over 30 that has a six pack is a fag

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

My dad was a residential GC when I was young and he had me and my brothers work weekends cleaning up jobsites, nailing off roofs etc. before we had 2 digits in our age.

General Supt at 28...Must have been a low hanging bar, in my neck of the woods you need 30 years + to get that title. I don't know you, but I know what I know and what the learning curve is for my life experiences in the trades. If you think you were a competent mechanical Supt at 23 YO, the worlds bestest construction QA/ QC inspector at 26, well..that tells me all I need to know about you. I don't doubt you have worked with your hands and are feeling the effects of working in the trades, but lighten up Francis, your not the only one.

No one cares, dont throw stones in a glass house. 30 year union carpenter and you need advice on what finish nailer to buy, couple failed relationship threads which started as celebratory shes the best one ever. Your credentials arent as awesome you think.

The thread was started to honor the hard working men who helped build the infrastructure we have today. One must remember there really wasnt shit for food in this time. these guys were probably eating way less calories than they were burning every day. There wasnt a better job out there because there was not any jobs. It was the great depression.

Modern food is so processed is ridiculous. Im not slim and trim but i am pretty strong. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if it comes out of a plastic bag and is man made its probably bad for you. It takes discipline to eat healthy much like it takes discipline for an addict to be sober. We all have chinks in our armor.

Do your best to inspire your friends and children to work harder and be better people.

 

[was thatguy]

So they didn’t ride e-bikes from feed trough to feed trough? I’m confused.

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

Any dude over 30 that has a six pack is a fag

Yeah what he said.

 

[RIVERBORN]

Yeah what he said.

I only buy 30 boxes.

 

[traquer]

You cant exercise your way out of a bad diet. There are a couple of factors involved. One is insulin resistence. As you eat sugar and processed carbs you gluclose goes up. Your body produces insulin to contol gluclose. You go to the doctor and your gluclose is measured and it in a normal range because insulin is working. What they didnt measure was your insulin is high. That is a warning sign that is ignored. Next time at the dr get an inslin test and you should be below 10 but really closer to 5-7.

Over time high insulin leads to insulin resistence and basically you have diabetes you just dont need insulin yet. The process from high insulin to diagnosis of diabetes can be 20-30 years. There are about an equal number of normal weight people that have diabetes as compared to overweight. This is an insulin problem

In the late 1800s vegetable oils started being produced. It really took off in the 1930s. The graph of vegetible oil production and diabetes mirror each other. We consume more vegetable oils than ever and have the highest rates of diabetes.

The average person in the us consumes 150 lbs of sugar in a year and more than that of flour. Both lead to high gluclose. Sugar, vegetable oils and flour are mostly empty calories and people over consume. How many times have you seen someone eat 1 chip or 1 cookie. They eat until the package is gone. How many people have you seen eat a bag of avacados

There are no essential carbs. You can live your life without eating a carb. There are essential fats and proteins.

Vegetable oils are not a food your body recognizes they are a recently invented fake food. They contain calories but not nutrition. Thus they make you fat. These oils are high in omega 6 and are inflamatory.

Fats like animal fats, butter and certain oils like avacado and olive oils are nutrious. They make you full and keep you from over eating.

If you only ate meat and whole vegetables and limited your fruit(high sugar) you would look closer to the guys in post 1.

You can reverse type 2 diabetes, cure cancer and a host of other diseases by eliminating processed foods combined with timed eating and fasting.

This guy is quirky but has good info. This is a short video but he has many others. He was a dr for the white house. Like many doctors he has seen how the standard american diet is making us sick. This lead him to become a reasearcher and he studied visceral fat. He is a big proponent of HIIT training. At 65 i have started using HIIT. Along with diet changes i look more like dr sean. I am 5'9. 160 down from the 195 earlier this year.

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