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  1. No Butt No Putt

    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    Using Bluewater Trim and or Jack plate indicators.

    Im having a hard time getting the cable to mount to my trim ram. It worked perfect on my 2.5L but won't fit the ram on my 3L.
     
  2. RiverDave

    RiverDave In it to win it

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    what's the problem? different diameter?
     
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    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    Yes sir
     
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    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

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    Just call StainlessMarine.com and tell them what you have. The indicators are motor specific. They are very helpful on the phone. You will probably need a new bracket.
     
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    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

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    Their website isn't opening for me. But google them and get their number. I just talked to them a couple weeks ago.
     
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    Go to their web site and contact customer service, I have 2 0f their products on my 2 Stokers, they are the bomb!
     
  7. No Butt No Putt

    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    Will their cables work with my indicator?
     
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    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

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    They should be standard 33c cables with 10/32 threads.
     
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    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    Image1482273418.564831.jpg This is the cable that goes on the trim ram.
     
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    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

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    That's a sleeve over a cable.
     
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    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

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    A new cable is like 50 bucks.
     
  12. No Butt No Putt

    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    That's not the problem. The cable is part of the piece.

    The problem is it won't mount to my new trim ram because the trim ram is smaller in diameter then my old one.
     
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    Heylam Well-Known Member

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    No way to make a collar type shim?
     
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    I've got all this stuff brand new I never installed in my boat parts cabinet. I can get it out tomorrow if you haven't figured it out. My recollection is what you posted is for a 2.5 on the trim cylinder and the 3.0 is a lever that mounts on the clamp, but I'm not sure without looking, it's been awhile, lol.
     
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    Outdrive1 Well-Known Member

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    I'll take the 2.5 stuff if someone wants to off it.
     
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    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    The guy at Bluewater said if I switch to lever it will make the indicator work backwards.


    I'm going to grind the old clamp off and get a smaller stainless hose clamp and try that first.
     
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    Stainless Banned

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    I don't know if this will shed ideas on what you're doing. I purchased 2 brackets and the readout for twins but never got around to installing because mine has Smartcraft which is not very smart when it comes to remembering calibration, lol. This says for 2.4 or 2.5 but I seem to remember Livorsi saying it fits 3.0's also.
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    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    I'll try to modify mine first. I might just shit can the hole thing and fill the hole on the dash too.
     
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    If its any help, I have the same trim indicator set up on my 2015 300xs. The only difference is the bracket that is attached to the outboard.
     
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    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    Same as mine or stainless's?
     
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    pwerwagn Inmate #4800

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    On my 300's with the blue water indicator, there's a bracket that mounts on the side. No sleeve like you pictured. Looks a little more like stainless's...but not exactly.

    Mine actually don't work on either motor, and I can't figure out how they ever did.
     
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    Like Stainless.
     
  23. No Butt No Putt

    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    Can you post a pic of your setup?
     
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    pwerwagn Inmate #4800

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    I'll try to find a pic. If not, I will take a bunch next time I'm at storage.
     
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    pwerwagn Inmate #4800

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    Crappy pics, but the best i could zoom into.

    Basically, its a tube that fastens up top and moves with the motors when you trim them. The lower is a bracket that fixes the cable jacket to the jackplate basically. The cable end *should* be fixed in that upper sleeve somehow, but on mine it is not. I can trim the motors up, put it all back together and it will push the cables down when I trim down but nothing is present to allow the tube to pull the cable back up when trimming up. I am going to drill/tap a hole in the sleeve to allow me to pinch the cable inside the tube, and also allow for adjustment.

    I can get better pictures if it looks like these are what you need pics/part numbers off of?
    --Jeff



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    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    That's how your trim or jackplate indicator is? Because that looks like my jackplate setup.
     
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    pwerwagn Inmate #4800

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    Trim. Mine doesnt have hyd jackplates.
     
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    I have installed many of both set ups. Get the Stainless Marine set up, it is much nicer than the old school Blue Water.
     
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    Oddly enough on mine, in the hot boat magazine articles, I can tell at least at one time mine were intended to work (there's red marks on the trim display, meaning don't trim past those or the cowls hit).

    But in all the old pictures I have of the boat, the cables are just zip tied to something out of the way and not hooked up. Kinda weird.
     
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    Same weirdness on mine, the trim gauges are wired in but the motors never had the sending units installed.
     
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    My 2.5 ros doesn't have a trim gauge and unless you fab something there's no way to add it. Kinda bs is you ask me. For the money they could have put a trim sending unit on the thing.
     
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    No Butt No Putt Well-Known Member

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    Let's design the stuff.
     
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    No shit. I'd like to just have a standard mercury sending unit. Life would be so much easier. No one makes a kit to do that but I think it's possible to fab something that would work.
     
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    My 2.4 trim sending units are on the ends of the upper mount for the trim ram. The horizontal bar for the trim mount stays in a fixed position relative to the ram and the outside rotate around it. I believe one is supposed to be the sending unit and one is supposed to be a limit switch. I don't have a trim gauge so neither are wired up, if they even work, but that's how mine were explained to me if you have any sort of option like that on yours.
     
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    Amazing that it's 2016 and you can't buy a simple, well constructed gauge and kit for showing the trim angle on ANY outboard. There have been different attempts over the years but most of them came a went. Looks like a nice opportunity for one of you guys to build something. I'm sure the folks in Qz or Europe have something for the 15" motors. Those guys are always building cool stuff.
     
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    The mechanical Stainless Marine trim actuators for both 2.5 and 300x are easy at adjust and work just fine I can never get the electric sending units on my 300x motors in sinc.

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    A few years later and TTT. Anyone come up with more/better ideas for indicators?
     

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