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Are these being classified as a sxs?? Just curious if you still need to wear a helmet in them in California
Yes. And Yes.
Are these being classified as a sxs?? Just curious if you still need to wear a helmet in them in California
Well thats dumb, didn't they pass the 1000cc mark that the rules were set by?Yes. And Yes.
Since when do Sand Cars not fit in toy haulers?That's true. But it can't fit in a toy hauler, no financing, and more $$$ in maintenance.
If you already have an RV and an enclosed trailer, it makes the decision to go with a custom car much easier.
No, the Speed car is 999cc.Well thats dumb, didn't they pass the 1000cc mark that the rules were set by?
Well thats dumb, didn't they pass the 1000cc mark that the rules were set by?
Is there any more transparency on any other product you have bought? Why would they show it?I believe there could be a little more transparency about the production process, but I don't feel like I'm being ripped off. If you go to Hisun's website there is no
mention of the Speed partnership. It does look like Hisun has the capability to build the cars, I would think they would be proud of the partnership with Speed as it's going
to end up as a premium UTV. I think it is reasonable to have some doubts, hopefully Robbie is not in over his head. The presentations do not reassure me, they seem
more like sales pitches, especially the most recent ones.
I would think because no one has seen a production car yet, they are way later than promised, and this is an unique buying process.Is there any more transparency on any other product you have bought? Why would they show it?
So Tatum, extreme, racer, alumacraft etc have done all this?You are then hit with all kinds of other regulations regarding emissions, crash testing, etc. Speed does not have the lobbying budget for that. Polaris does, they are coming out with a 1400CC car. I guarantee you you'll still have to wear a helmet in CA.
So Tatum, extreme, racer, alumacraft etc have done all this?
I would think because no one has seen a production car yet, they are way later than promised, and this is an unique buying process.
So Tatum, extreme, racer, alumacraft etc have done all this?
can't wait to pick up a used 4 seat x3 when these flood the marketThose are not "production" cars. We are talking about 10K of these in the first year.
I was always wondered that, I wear a helmet in my buggy anyway. The 550hp LS2 in my car is a bit more than 999 cc.So Tatum, extreme, racer, alumacraft etc have done all this?
10000 car is pretty damn impressive. Thats deposits and not fully funded. Some will drop out but if 30% drop its still impressive.We were never going to have them last Thanksgiving. That was wishful thinking and hype to get things going. Again I don't believe anyone's paperwork stated that anyway.
I said there is no way that a Thanksgiving delivery was possible in September '19 after talking to RG at SSSS and said the same through last summer. I would have been like number 10 in line had I put the money down then when I talked to him. Ironically I ended up being number 1010.
I was more worried that the price was going to change than the car being late.
I'm 90% confident I'll have mine well before Thanksgiving 2021. Honestly if it was a choice to be delivered in July, or November, I'd choose November.
Yes his staff is small, but that also enabled them to be very nimble, and outsourced the production and consultation of may elements of the car. Even if the car is a year late, that is a pretty incredible timeline to go from nothing to designing your own car, engine, trans, shocks, wheels, interior, etc in less than 2 years.
I was always wondered that, I wear a helmet in my buggy anyway. The 550hp LS2 in my car is a bit more than 999 cc.
10000 car is pretty damn impressive. Thats deposits and not fully funded. Some will drop out but if 30% drop its still impressive.
Morgan motor sports is going to be busy
That's true. But it can't fit in a toy hauler, no financing, and more $$$ in maintenance.
If you already have an RV and an enclosed trailer, it makes the decision to go with a custom car much easier.
There’s a lot of toy haulers out there that sand rails fit into and the more money in maintenance is worth it.
Even if the car is a year late, that is a pretty incredible timeline to go from nothing to designing your own car, engine, trans, shocks, wheels, interior, etc in less than 2 years.
Blueprints? At that rate it's gotta be all 3d modeled with all the tubes cnc laser cut and bentI seriously disagree.
2 weeks of blueprints.
75 days for working prototypes.
At 2 years, it should be 10,000 a month.
Its been done before.
Dan'l
I seriously disagree.
2 weeks of blueprints.
75 days for working prototypes.
At 2 years, it should be 10,000 a month.
Its been done before.
Dan'l
Thank you. My trailer has a spare starter, alternator, packed cv and axle. If I wad it up any more that I’m ok with going home.There’s a lot of toy haulers out there that sand rails fit into and the more money in maintenance is worth it.
That’s harder than chicken before the egg.What’s the over under on what we see first, the Speed cars or the new Magic’s?
What’s the over under on what we see first, the Speed cars or the new Magic’s?
One thing that can be tough is he mentioned 40000 parts from all over the globe. Ok. Yet it’s still being tested. So my assumption is none of the 40000 individual pieces have released to build. Oh and build me 10000 of these to fill current orders
I think he may have created something that’s too big. Over sold.
im in the building industry and we can’t get parts made of metals that have been produced for decades. Not brand new.
but money talks! No idea the profit per unit. To fill orders quick they may need sell more, gain less
There will be rack storage in Havasu before there is a showroom full of Magics.
Magics actually exist .
Dan'l
$450MM in sales? Nothing has been delivered yet...or even started if he wanted to use % of completion. Is it $450MM in Customer Deposits? Maybe deferred revenue...If you "drop out" you lose your $1500.
RG is claiming $450M in sales since March.
I don't know what they got out of the dealers per car, if anything at all. That 10K includes dealer orders. Maybe the dealers got some really good pricing for a deposit on a per car basis. I have no idea
To your point,
$450MM in sales? Nothing has been delivered yet...or even started if he wanted to use % of completion. Is it $450MM in Customer Deposits? Maybe deferred revenue...
As I understand he has simplified the parts aspect
Most of the suspension parts are the same part so all frt arms are the same, rear trailing arms are the same, they just need right and lefts, the axles are all the same size, a rear axle will fit on a Frt, Tie rods are the same on all cars
so you don’t have 5 years of different sizes a arms and trailing arms etc
That alone cuts out 50% of parts needed to stock on a shelf.
It's still 40000 pieces. I just hope you guys get what you paid for. I will eat a bucket of fried crow hopefully. If it goes as planned then I will get one. Yes that will be in a few years.Also all the standard stuff you’d expect to be the same, is. Same hubs all around, wheel bearings, rotors.
The hub bolts into the front spindle or rear trailing arm as a cartridge so if you have an issue you can change an entire hub/wheel bearing assembly on the trail.
Also all the standard stuff you’d expect to be the same, is. Same hubs all around, wheel bearings, rotors.
The hub bolts into the front spindle or rear trailing arm as a cartridge so if you have an issue you can change an entire hub/wheel bearing assembly on the trail.
So, how big are the breaks? (Yes I spelled it wrong like the utv article) Those tiny rotors should be on a wheelbarrow.
What is 'forged castings'? A new metrictonofshit?
I'm not a metallurgist, either.
Dan'l
It's still 40000 pieces. I just hope you guys get what you paid for. I will eat a bucket of fried crow hopefully. If it goes as planned then I will get one. Yes that will be in a few years.
They will have demo days at some point. I will probably skip those out off fear.
I don’t know the percentage but many parts are already being built. You are talking about this like car development happens in a serial fashion. Many processes can happen at once. If there will be supply issues, who knows. It may take all year to get through 10,000 cars.
The dude didn’t just buy a building in Havasu, have a meeting with the city council to discuss his plans, lobby to get the building rezoned, all to screw over a few thousand people and all the largest power sports dealers in the southwest.
The only ones complaining about not having a car are the ones that didn’t put down a deposit for one.
I'm wondering how production will be able to scale. I understand that Hisun has said 40 cars per day once they are up running. What about after the backorder of 10k cars has been filled? I don't think they will be selling 40 cars per day in order to keep the line busy.
Did he purchase that old Hastings building or leasing it ? I thought RD mentioned that lady owner wouldn't sell, despite numerous offers.
Not purchasing a Speed Car, but do you suppose Robby will be servicing and selling his accessories for the XX from there ??
I don’t know for sure but I would imagine that would be public knowledge if he bought the building.
On the Wildcat XX front my guess would be yes. That is still their non turbo car.