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Legalities of having a gun on your boat on the Parker strip ? Az resident, just wondering because half Az, half Ca.
If I recall, the center of the river is the dividing line between the two states. I don't think either state is a right to carry state so having a concealed weapon is against the law. Now with that said, I NEVER went to the river/camping/road trip without a pistol. Why would I need a gun while boating on the river? The world is a ugly place and people are hurting each other at an alarming rate. Have I ever needed to brandish my weapon? No. Have I ever thought I may need to grab it because I thought the wife and I were in danger? Yes. (in coves in Havi) but fortunately it never went that far, but having a weapon is a HUGE responsibility and must not be taken lightly. Understand there will be percussions and legal "fall out" if you ever present a gun, but that's somthing I would deal with if the situation arose., sure hope it never comes to it. As a side note, here in Idaho, everyone has a side arm strapped to their hip. Very little gun violence here.
I think Boat Cop (Alan) and the other LEO here would offer a more "legal" answer than mine.
What I'd you had a gun mounted to your boat and in plane view?
Incorrect, AZ is a right to carry both open and concealed. Now in regards to the River Boat COP may know exacts.If I recall, the center of the river is the dividing line between the two states. I don't think either state is a right to carry state so having a concealed weapon is against the law. Now with that said, I NEVER went to the river/camping/road trip without a pistol. Why would I need a gun while boating on the river? The world is a ugly place and people are hurting each other at an alarming rate. Have I ever needed to brandish my weapon? No. Have I ever thought I may need to grab it because I thought the wife and I were in danger? Yes. (in coves in Havi) but fortunately it never went that far, but having a weapon is a HUGE responsibility and must not be taken lightly. Understand there will be percussions and legal "fall out" if you ever present a gun, but that's somthing I would deal with if the situation arose., sure hope it never comes to it. As a side note, here in Idaho, everyone has a side arm strapped to their hip. Very little gun violence here.
I think Boat Cop (Alan) and the other LEO here would offer a more "legal" answer than mine.
Illegal in the boat and purse?illegal in the boat in az, that said, cali less retrictive dont think so! its also illegal without ccw in arizona for the wife to carry in her purse, but when the smoke clears and wife needs new purse from the bullet hole, she will walk away!
So what your saying is? Yes carry as an non CA resident, or no?Authorities (Police) from either state can enforce their own laws, anywhere on the River, up to the high water line of the opposing state, and have LE authority up to 25 air miles into the other state. (but cannot enforce their laws while obviously in the other state). The 25 mile provision is so opposite shore authorities can provide back-up, pursue violators, and can be first responders to emergencies in the neighboring state.
Courts from either State can prosecute crimes committed anywhere on the Colorado River, up to the opposing high water mark.
Neither State can prosecute for conduct that is legal within the State that the conduct was committed.
As far as conflicting laws, that provision has never been challenged in court, to my knowledge. As it is now, California Authorities (who's laws are usually more stringent than AZ) will prosecute CA laws on CA residents, anywhere on the River. (Which includes Lake Havasu)
If I recall, the center of the river is the dividing line between the two states.
Authorities (Police) from either state can enforce their own laws, anywhere on the River, up to the high water line of the opposing state, and have LE authority up to 25 air miles into the other state. (but cannot enforce their laws while obviously in the other state). The 25 mile provision is so opposite shore authorities can provide back-up, pursue violators, and can be first responders to emergencies in the neighboring state.
Courts from either State can prosecute crimes committed anywhere on the Colorado River, up to the opposing high water mark.
Neither State can prosecute for conduct that is legal within the State that the conduct was committed.
As far as conflicting laws, that provision has never been challenged in court, to my knowledge. As it is now, California Authorities (who's laws are usually more stringent than AZ) will prosecute CA laws on CA residents, anywhere on the River. (Which includes Lake Havasu)
If I was a cop, I would not approach a boat with a machine gun mounted to the deck.But is there a law that stops me from mounting a machine gun to a blown flatty?
How about the other lakes like Mohave and Mead that are NV/AZ or Powell which is UT/AZ?
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I think it goes against the laws of good taste.But is there a law that stops me from mounting a machine gun to a blown flatty?
I'd name the boat Flat & FuriousI think it goes against the laws of good taste.
It would have to be completely polished to be deemed acceptable.I think it goes against the laws of good taste.
Is it legal to have a firearm on a vessel in az controlled waters? Someone mentioned that it is not and that is news to me.
Not talking about the River
Gun in one place clip in another simple
I wonder if Billy B does camo paint jobs.It would have to be completely polished to be deemed acceptable.
if you don't live in CA you cannot get a CCW for CA.Simple solution would be to have a concealed carry permit for both states.
if you don't live in CA you cannot get a CCW for CA.
If I was a cop, I would not approach a boat with a machine gun mounted to the deck.
The Interstate Compact I described above applies to the National Park waters regarding State or local enforcement. AZ. CA, NV and UT are all party to the Compact(s). The Parks Service generally follows State laws regarding weapons possession, except they may prohibit them within NPS buildings, such as government offices, visitor centers, ranger stations, fee collection buildings, and maintenance facilities. Even though I said "MAY" prohibit, presume that they are until shown otherwise. Especially with the current Federal Government Administration.
if you don't live in CA you cannot get a CCW for CA.
illegal in the boat in az, that said, cali less retrictive dont think so! its also illegal without ccw in arizona for the wife to carry in her purse, but when the smoke clears and wife needs new purse from the bullet hole, she will walk away!
last Year I was driving down to the dam to just walk across the bypass bridge with the wife and at the check point they asked if we had any weapons so I replied yes I have my carry gun and my CCW, they said to turn around and leave I can’t carry a gun anywhere in the Hoover dam area because it’s a federal building. So we turned around and left. Now I would assume That you couldn’t carry on any federal land or national parks because it’s typically federal property correct ? Isn’t this tru with waterways ? I would think they are federal and same rules apply. I just carry mine and leave in a certain spot in my boat and Won’t disclose it.
Could you explain to me the difference in a Non resident AZ. CCW permit and a resident AZ.CCW. I have a Ca. CCW and a AZ. CCW. I have homes in both states, would they both be considered resident CCW's??Also, there is no reciprocity in AZ for CA CCW permits. Meaning, AZ doesn't recognize CA CCW permits and CA doesn't recognize ANYONE's CCW, except their own. The map below shows which states recognize AZ permits. If they don't recognize our permits, we don't recognize theirs. But this doesn't preclude non-AZ residents from carrying where a CCW is not required.
While anyone can carry concealed in AZ in general, there are some specific locations that would require a CCW, such as businesses that serve alcohol.
For those that don't know, Arizona residents that possess an AZ CCW Permit do not have to undergo the Federal background check requirements when purchasing a firearm from licensed Firearm Dealers in AZ. The FFA forms have to be filled out, but the NICS check isn't required.
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