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Willing to shoot and kill a unarmed patriot behind a door.. but unwilling to even stand up and pull arms on ANTIFA and BLM as the burnt, destroyed, tore down history and even killed!!

What a fukn disgrace to America!!

This is a fukn set-up! SMH

THEY LET THEM THROUGH THE BARRIERS FOR CHRIST SAKE! You can witness it in several videos!

BLM had their way all summer.
 

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Here’s the video.

Looking at the video....right at the time the shot rings out you can see a dark figure in the hallway on the left (law enforcement maybe?) seemingly raise their hands and then bang.

Watch it several times. Right as she climbs up, look through the left door window pane...right above the guy wearing the Stars and Stripes hat, you’ll see the person raise their hand then you hear the shot.🤷‍♂️
 

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Here’s the video.


What the fuck? The cops were standing right there with the people?? How does that work??

you can see them in the beginning of the video close (not stopping anything). You can see herstart to climb through the right window and “pop” she falls backwards. The cops were no more than five feet behind her?

none of that video makes any sense.. other than that’s the real video.

also note that isn’t the whited out windows we saw earlier online. This was in a hallway. Someone popped her from a pretty good distance back.
 

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I’m wondering if they had orders that if ANYONE came thru those doors shoot them? at that point they had no idea who the fuck was coming in and if they had weapons. Also they had Republicans and Democrats in rooms right behind them so I would have to think they have pretty strict orders when shit like this goes down. I tried to go across the dam last year and they asked if I had any weapons so I said yes I have my side arm and my CCW, they said they don’t care turn around and leave, you can’t come in a federal building period with a weapon and that was the freaking dam. It’s a sad day for all 4 people that died there in the capital today. I hope we can come back from this type of stuff.
 

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I’m wondering if they had orders that if ANYONE came thru those doors shoot them? at that point they had no idea who the fuck was coming in and if they had weapons. Also they had Republicans and Democrats in rooms right behind them so I would have to think they have pretty strict orders when shit like this goes down. I tried to go across the dam last year and they asked if I had any weapons so I said yes I have my side arm and my CCW, they said they don’t care turn around and leave, you can’t come in a federal building period with a weapon and that was the freaking dam. It’s a sad day for all 4 people that died there in the capital today. I hope we can come back from this type of stuff.

4 people died? Who’s the other three?
 

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I agree. But what will not be addressed in the main stream is that ANTIFA did in fact infiltrate and pose as Trump Supporters. Based on the photos and actions it appears they were definitely involved in the actual entrance of the buildings. Of course there were plenty of run of the mill Trump Supporters with them going right along.

Very stupid move in my opinion. Can't take any of it back and unfortunately the history of it will be written by an obvious bias media.

I heard about 4 busses of ANTIFA being escorted into the rally. This is the only evidence I've found so far. True they are not marked "ANTIFA" on the bus but who else would be busses into the front line??
 

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Time to burn the mother fucker down



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Ashley babbit WILL REST IN Peace...The poor soul that pulled the trigger will finish his life in horror...Sleepless , haunting will consume him to a life of suicided thought's to escape the horror.... the small Mob of people that led the peacefull group, the hundreds that spoke so loud , branded that riotous title and stole it from the peaceful which most stand for...will also go down in history as guilty....

let he who is without sin cast the first stone.... give the power of GOD.... back to GOD... pray for ALL,.. PRAY for peace
 

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This chick knew she was breaking into a federal building. She knew the risks.

I would agree, there is no good to be expected to go into a FED building and start climbing into restricted/sealed off areas. I remember in my undergrad studies there is a federal law allowing deadly force in defense of national security.. not sure if this is the statute or not but I think it is.. With members of Congress in those quarters and perhaps the VP if he was in the vicinity I am sure the gloves come off... which they should.. Foreign or domestic which Ashley Babbit was well aware of as a Vet. Still sad and she did NOT deserve to die... she picked her battle with full thought and acceptance of what consequences were.. especially if she was pregnant. She risked her life for her Country on Foreign soil... And she stood up for her country on Domestic soil, very sad ending.

§ 632.4Deadly force.(a) Deadly force is destructive physical force directed against a person or persons (e.g., firing a lethal weapon). Use it only in extreme need, when all lesser means have failed or cannot reasonably be used. Use deadly force for one or more of the following reasons only:(1) In self-defense, when in imminent danger of death or serious injury.(2) To protect property related to national security, when reasonably necessary to prevent—(i) Threatened theft, damage, or espionage aimed at property or information specified by a commander or other competent authority as vital to national security. (See paragraph (b) of this section.)(ii) Actual theft, damage, or espionage aimed at property or information which, though not vital, is substantially important to national security. (See paragraph (b) of this section.)(iii) Escape of an individual whose unauthorized presence near property or information vital to national security is a reasonable threat of theft, sabotage, or espionage.(3) To prevent actual theft or sabotage of property (such as operable weapons or ammunition) which could cause deadly harm to others in the hands of an unauthorized person.(4) To prevent serious offenses against a person or persons (e.g., armed robbery, rape, or violent destruction of property by arson, bombing).(5) To apprehend a suspect believed to have committed any of the types of offenses named in paragraphs (a) (2), (3), and (4) of this section.(6) To prevent the escape of a prisoner (when authorized by a commander or other competent authority and reasonably necessary).(7) To obey lawful orders from higher authority governed by this regulation.(b) A commander or other competent authority will specify that property or information is—(1) Vital to national security only when its loss, damage, or compromise would seriously harm national security or an essential national defense mission.(2) Substantially important to national security based on the mission and the material or information required to perform it.(c) To comply with local law or international agreement or arrangements, a commander may impose further restrictions on using deadly force. (Restrictions should not unduly compromise U.S. security interests).(d) Security criteria and standards for protection of nuclear weapons (paragraph (c) of this section AR 50-5-1) and for chemical agents (paragraph (c) of this section AR 50-6-1) also apply.
 

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Very sad indeed. I wonder if any of those people ever really thought about the consequences. We're not talking about a local municipality or city building... we are talking about the Nations Capital full well knowing it was full of Senators and the Vice President. Different rules of engagement I'm sure.
 

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4 people died? Who’s the other three?
Only Ashley was shot. The other 3 died of "medically related" issues... It's just the normal adding of fuel to the fire.
 

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Very sad deal. She was a Vet, and didn't deserve to die. RIP.

It appears from her social media posts that she had fully gone down the rabbit hole of Qanon, and was immersed in it.

I hear a lot of interesting things from Q, but there are a lot of really out there conspiracy theories that run rampant in the Q crowd.

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I watch the video, i see these guys smashing glass, pounding on the door. Behind that door are armed Capital Police, sworn to defend the people inside, including the VP. These people were in the middle of committing a crime. They were trying to break down a door at the capital building. They had already breached the outer barriers. Every single one of them at that door could have been shot. They made that choice. Not sure what the people trying to break down that door thought was going to happen. They thought they would break into the hall of congress, and then what??? What was the end goal?

As to her specifically, I’m guessing she got caught up, and made a bad decision. I have no clue about her personally, but she spent 14 years in the military. For that I respect her. Why she put herself in that position, at that door, with those guys trying to break in?? We will probably never know.

Anyhow, I’m sad for her family, they will be searching for answers the rest of their lives. She was too young to die, and that unexpected death can crush family members. My aunt died at 40, and it broke my mother and grandmother. They were never the same.

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I heard about 4 busses of ANTIFA being escorted into the rally. This is the only evidence I've found so far. True they are not marked "ANTIFA" on the bus but who else would be busses into the front line??

on our local channel 7 news they interviewed a BLM african american kid who witnessed the shooting of the girl .

let me look for the footage. They (channel 7) and the boy said he is a BLM activist in the interview.

so ya they were there and the ones storming in...
 

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Ashley babbit WILL REST IN Peace...The poor soul that pulled the trigger will finish his life in horror...Sleepless , haunting will consume him to a life of suicided thought's to escape the horror.... the small Mob of people that led the peacefull group, the hundreds that spoke so loud , branded that riotous title and stole it from the peaceful which most stand for...will also go down in history as guilty....

let he who is without sin cast the first stone.... give the power of GOD.... back to GOD... pray for ALL,.. PRAY for peace
Any normal person would have these feelings of guilt and sorrow and question their actions for the rest of his/her life and ultimately die of the bottle or the barrel.

I have to wonder though.....will this man sleep at night just fine convinced that he did his job?
 

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Any normal person would have these feelings of guilt and sorrow and question their actions for the rest of his/her life and ultimately die of the bottle or the barrel.

I have to wonder though.....will this man sleep at night just fine convinced that he did his job?



I think the hindsight is where the officer experiences the guilt. He didn’t ten ring ring her. He specifically went for a head/kill shot.

The hindsight is him learning it was an unarmed woman who was a 14 year military veteran. That’s what will haunt him.

In the moment he had a duty to protect congress members and ultimately did what he was trained to do. But... that hindsight piece is a mother fucker.
 

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I watch the video, i see these guys smashing glass, pounding on the door. Behind that door are armed Capital Police, sworn to defend the people inside, including the VP. These people were in the middle of committing a crime. They were trying to break down a door at the capital building. They had already breached the outer barriers. Every single one of them at that door could have been shot. They made that choice. Not sure what the people trying to break down that door thought was going to happen. They thought they would break into the hall of congress, and then what??? What was the end goal?

As to her specifically, I’m guessing she got caught up, and made a bad decision. I have no clue about her personally, but she spent 14 years in the military. For that I respect her. Why she put herself in that position, at that door, with those guys trying to break in?? We will probably never know.

Anyhow, I’m sad for her family, they will be searching for answers the rest of their lives. She was too young to die, and that unexpected death can crush family members. My aunt died at 40, and it broke my mother and grandmother. They were never the same.

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So tell us then, how do WE get this scum of a government out of the high places??????🤷‍♂️ We ALL just learned how the powers that be, rigged the elections for both the President and Senators!!! Is the only way by force or just bow down to a bunch of power hungry assholes wanting to take YOUR boat selling business away from you by raising gas prices to over $10.00 a gallon. Owning a boat will be an impossible dream for the greater part of USA citizens.

Last I saw, big powerful boats run on fuel not sunshine or wind!! Hell, maybe you should relocate to Newport Beach and start selling ragboats!!!
 

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So tell us then, how do WE get this scum of a government out of the high places??????🤷‍♂️ We ALL just learned how the powers that be, rigged the elections for both the President and Senators!!! Is the only way by force or just bow down to a bunch of power hungry assholes wanting to take YOUR boat selling business away from you by raising gas prices to over $10.00 a gallon.

I've come to the conclusion that our government will protect itself at all costs....PERIOD.

Realizing this I truly believe the only way to take back our country is by force. A full blown militia led civil war against the government to take it back by force. Sounds silly and crazy.....until it doesn't.
 

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So tell us then, how do WE get this scum of a government out of the high places??????[emoji2369] We ALL just learned how the powers that be, rigged the elections for both the President and Senators!!! Is the only way by force or just bow down to a bunch of power hungry assholes wanting to take YOUR boat selling business away from you by raising gas prices to over $10.00 a gallon. Owning a boat will be an impossible dream for the greater part of USA citizens.

Last I saw, big powerful boats run on fuel not sunshine or wind!! Hell, maybe you should relocate to Newport Beach and start selling ragboats!!!

Not sure why you’re attacking me. If you want to rush the capital building today and break down some doors and windows, more power to you. Ill look for you on Social media. At that point what makes you any different than Antifa or BLM? They believe their ideas are just as important as yours.

I’ve had lots of jobs during my lifetime. I’ll be just fine, whatever I decide to do. Thanks for looking out though. [emoji106]


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Crazy to me that people think these large protests would ever lead to an actual reversal of the vote. The people who need to be corrected are not the front line police officer you encounter at a protest. The actual people who can actually make a difference are many tiers above them. We are not seeing "Civil War", we are seeing protests. Hell... they could even start shooting cops at these protests. Still not going to effect those many tiers above them. The only way to really effect change is to get those in charge out of office. Once you figure out how to do that, then you can actually achieve change.
 

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Crazy to me that people think these large protests would ever lead to an actual reversal of the vote. The people who need to be corrected are not the front line police officer you encounter at a protest. The actual people who can actually make a difference are many tiers above them. We are not seeing "Civil War", we are seeing protests. Hell... they could even start shooting cops at these protests. Still not going to effect those many tiers above them. The only way to really effect change is to get those in charge out of office. Once you figure out how to do that, then you can actually achieve change.
How much more figuring out can we do than what we just did. One can't change the color of their blue socks if the drawer is filled with blue socks!!!
 

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Crazy to me that people think these large protests would ever lead to an actual reversal of the vote. The people who need to be corrected are not the front line police officer you encounter at a protest. The actual people who can actually make a difference are many tiers above them. We are not seeing "Civil War", we are seeing protests. Hell... they could even start shooting cops at these protests. Still not going to effect those many tiers above them. The only way to really effect change is to get those in charge out of office. Once you figure out how to do that, then you can actually achieve change.



You’re correct but you could argue protesting is useless in 99.9% of protests too. Be it police shootings, the death penalty, or George Floyd.

The difference is that we CAN protest in this country. Too often I think we take for granted how unique that is to our country compared to the world. People have to express their disappointment at some point otherwise shit really does hit the fan like you see throughout the world.

This wasn’t about overturning the votes. This was to show congress that a very large demographic feels underrepresented.

Unfortunately it turned into a shit show from a few bad apples but judging by the size of that demonstration an overwhelming majority were peaceful.

I don’t care what political side you’re on. Demonstrating and protesting is a pretty important aspect of our freedoms and shouldn’t be downplayed.
 

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I agree with peoples right to protest. No issue there. I'm questioning what result many of those there thought they were going to achieve.
 

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Well I hope whoever pulled that trigger is satisfied.
 

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Crazy to me that people think these large protests would ever lead to an actual reversal of the vote. The people who need to be corrected are not the front line police officer you encounter at a protest. The actual people who can actually make a difference are many tiers above them. We are not seeing "Civil War", we are seeing protests. Hell... they could even start shooting cops at these protests. Still not going to effect those many tiers above them. The only way to really effect change is to get those in charge out of office. Once you figure out how to do that, then you can actually achieve change.


I would like to hold Stacy Abrams up as a model of how to invoke change...

Convince the most voters you have the better idea. (Note that you dont actually need to have the better idea)
 

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During this video
There are people walking around in the room or hall or what ever. Not fearing for there lives
Just walking around as if nothing was going on.
It would seem to me that if there was fear enough to shoot there would be much more panic and concern.
But I saw none
The room hadnt even been breached

I think the point was it was about to be breached. He didn't shoot until she climbed up on the window and was going to go through. Shooter looks to be secret service. Maybe he was charged with holding a perimeter or was engaged in active asset protection we probably will never know.
 

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I have heard multiple reports of an AD. Bullshit. Video shows otherwise.
 

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I think the point was it was about to be breached. He didn't shoot until she climbed up on the window and was going to go through. Shooter looks to be secret service. Maybe he was charged with holding a perimeter or was engaged in active asset protection we probably will never know.
she had a group of officers in full gear directly behind her.
They didnt think she was a threat
 

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I think the point was it was about to be breached. He didn't shoot until she climbed up on the window and was going to go through. Shooter looks to be secret service. Maybe he was charged with holding a perimeter or was engaged in active asset protection we probably will never know.

She was climbing into a hallway. The shooter was behind a barricaded door off of the hallway where the chamber actually is located and Congress had already been evacuated. On top of that, the uniformed LEO's next to her did not feel she was enough of a threat to even pull her down before she was shot.
 

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Only Ashley was shot. The other 3 died of "medically related" issues... It's just the normal adding of fuel to the fire.

News said other 3 were from “Natural Causes” One was in their 30’s and the other two were early 50’s
 
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Sure looked and sounded like Antifa. Did you hear the call for a medic from the Trump supporter wearing a riot helmets 🤣
 

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Crazy to me that people think these large protests would ever lead to an actual reversal of the vote. The people who need to be corrected are not the front line police officer you encounter at a protest. The actual people who can actually make a difference are many tiers above them. We are not seeing "Civil War", we are seeing protests. Hell... they could even start shooting cops at these protests. Still not going to effect those many tiers above them. The only way to really effect change is to get those in charge out of office. Once you figure out how to do that, then you can actually achieve change.
Have you ever tried to contact someone in government to fix an injustice? As a cop, I bet you do not run into it like the rest of us do.

Government runs roughshod over us, then if you try to argue with them, using their own laws, they say that you need to pay money and waste time and you will not succeed.

Trying to talk to a member of congress is impossible. You can send them letters, you will get a form letter back. Send an email, get an automated reply.

Government officials, and their minions, who love to hold their power over us, need to understand that there is only so far people can be pushed before they get mad. Government robs and steals and pushes people around, obviously not caring one bit who knows it and who is upset about it. And it is going to get terrifying in 2 weeks.
 

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@rcmike Ok, so what do you think they were going to accomplish by trying to take over the Capital Building?
 
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