AV Projects

[paradise]

We've got a couple of new AV projects going on and figured I would post up some pictures.

First one is a new house up on Mt Helix in San Diego. It's an 11k SqFt house and will be getting a full automation and control system.

It's getting:
15 TVs being distributed 12 central Video Sources as well as the ability to pull a source from a wall plate in each room
21 Audio Zones
11 AC Zones
Full 7.4.2 Atmos Enabled Theater
Pool Control
Irrigation Control
Lighting Control
Fireplace Control
Security Cameras
Gate Control
Video Intercom
Automated Shading
12 Flush Mounted in Wall touch Panels

We are just now getting started on the project, but it's already pretty interesting

The 4 secondary bedrooms are all pretty much the same, a TV, 2 in ceiling speakers and an in wall subwoofer. I'll get some pics of the details they are doing on the ceilings. Each room has a different detail :thumbsup


These are the mounts we are using in the bedrooms and throughout much of the house. They are an articulating mount that flushes back into the wall. The backs of the TV's will sit against the surface of the wall providing the flattest mount possible.


Family Room


Office


Kitchen/Dining


Entry


Kitchen


Living Room


Pool


The patio will have two TVs


Kitchen 2


Living Room 2


Gym with a TV


These pics are the family room and game room. There will be a big wetbar with a TV, large couch with a TV and surround sound and a pool table with some speakers.

Family Rm 2

Family Rm 3


So the theater is a little bit of a bummer. When we first showed up on site, the theater looked like the picture below.


There was a little bit of a miscommunication and the framers framed up the seating riser, soffits and columns. Unfortunately, to properly acoustically isolate the room we have to decouple the drywall from the framing using clips and hat track. In order to do that, all of the framing has to be pulled back off the walls and the riser has to be cut 3" from each side so we can get the proper bracketry in place. I'll take more pics as this process plays out as I think people will find it interesting.


Most of the wire for the job...

 

[pronstar]

That's freaking awesome, best time to integrate all that stuff is when you're down to the studs :thumbup:

I know a bit about audio, but the whole-home integration is pretty new to me, can't wait to get a house and get that stuff installed and working.

 

[scouter]

Hey Bud...... Is the spool of cable sitting in my garage for this job??????? P

 

[paradise]

Hey Bud...... Is the spool of cable sitting in my garage for this job??????? P

Yeah [emoji15]

I'm going to grab it from you Labor Day weekend. We'll be out Sunday, Monday. [emoji106]

 

[Beerme]

:yikes

That would be my dream job right there. Great post, can't wait to see the updates!

 

[BHC Vic]

We've got a couple of new AV projects going on and figured I would post up some pictures.

First one is a new house up on Mt Helix in San Diego. It's an 11k SqFt house and will be getting a full automation and control system.

It's getting:
15 TVs being distributed 12 central Video Sources as well as the ability to pull a source from a wall plate in each room
21 Audio Zones
11 AC Zones
Full 7.4.2 Atmos Enabled Theater
Pool Control
Irrigation Control
Lighting Control
Fireplace Control
Security Cameras
Gate Control
Video Intercom
Automated Shading
12 Flush Mounted in Wall touch Panels

We are just now getting started on the project, but it's already pretty interesting

The 4 secondary bedrooms are all pretty much the same, a TV, 2 in ceiling speakers and an in wall subwoofer. I'll get some pics of the details they are doing on the ceilings. Each room has a different detail :thumbsup
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These are the mounts we are using in the bedrooms and throughout much of the house. They are an articulating mount that flushes back into the wall. The backs of the TV's will sit against the surface of the wall providing the flattest mount possible.
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Family Room
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Office
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Kitchen/Dining
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Entry
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Kitchen
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Living Room
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Pool
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The patio will have two TVs
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Kitchen 2
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Living Room 2
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Gym with a TV
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These pics are the family room and game room. There will be a big wetbar with a TV, large couch with a TV and surround sound and a pool table with some speakers.
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Family Rm 2
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Family Rm 3
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So the theater is a little bit of a bummer. When we first showed up on site, the theater looked like the picture below.
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There was a little bit of a miscommunication and the framers framed up the seating riser, soffits and columns. Unfortunately, to properly acoustically isolate the room we have to decouple the drywall from the framing using clips and hat track. In order to do that, all of the framing has to be pulled back off the walls and the riser has to be cut 3" from each side so we can get the proper bracketry in place. I'll take more pics as this process plays out as I think people will find it interesting.
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Most of the wire for the job...
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Man I cod really use your help in bhc. House is pre wired but I have no idea what's what

 

[paradise]

I'll definitely try to keep this one updated.:thumbup:

Here is what the theater looks like right now. Framers and plumbers were bummed... And they still have to cut out the sides of the riser.


Here is the living room with the doors put in. They will be hiding these inside a false wall.


Finally got our flush mounts for the touchpanels


They will look like this once installed. Drywall mud will flush out with the mount and it all gets painted to match.


Here is the house I was at today. 20k SqFt in Rancho Santa Fe. Just helping a buddy of mine with the network on this one. :thumbsup

 

[paradise]

Little update, Drywall is starting to go up, all wire is in. and starting to get separated. Here are some pics in no particular order.

 

[paradise]

Here is the theater's current state. You can see it will be pretty simple in regards to design (just a box with some soffits) but it should make up for it with sound and video.

You can see the clips and channels that are used to acoustically decouple the inside of the theater from the rest of the framing. This allows us to run the theater at reference levels while causing as little disruption to the rest of the house as possible.:thumbup:

 

[BHC Vic]

Here is the theater's current state. You can see it will be pretty simple in regards to design (just a box with some soffits) but it should make up for it with sound and video.

You can see the clips and channels that are used to acoustically decouple the inside of the theater from the rest of the framing. This allows us to run the theater at reference levels while causing as little disruption to the rest of the house as possible.:thumbup:

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Is everything furred out w hat channel?

 

[paradise]

Is everything furred out w hat channel?

Only the theater. The clips for the channel are specifically placed to decouple the wall. Then there are two layers of 5/8" drywall with acoustic dampener between them installed on the furring channel.

 

[paradise]

Drywall.

 

[paradise]

Rack #1 started. This rack is just subwoofer amps and distributed audio amps. There will be vented blanks between all of the amps.

Surround sound zones run off receivers will be in another rack.

 

[Mandelon]

Very cool. Super interesting to me.

Could you post a wiring diagram? Not super detailed but are there wires headed off to every room from main point?

 

[paradise]

Very cool. Super interesting to me.

Could you post a wiring diagram? Not super detailed but are there wires headed off to every room from main point?

You probably won't be able to read this but I'll get a better one up. This is just our preliminary diagram for inputs and outputs.

Yes there is wire run out from the rack location to all the speakers, subs, TV's thermostats, shades, fireplaces, lighting control panels, pool equipment, irrigation equipment Etc etc etc.

 

[Mandelon]

Holy Guacamole, that's a shitload of cabling!

What happens when the drywaller or cabinet guy pokes a hole in one? Can you trace the bad spot easily?

Everything gets labeled? I picture me there with a roll of masking tape and a sharpie... :yikes


Will this all someday be wifi enabled and wireless?

A buddy of mine had something like this done at his custom place in Olivenhein. Stereo controls in each room. He could access his whole music library and play something different in each location. Mind Boggling.

I'm stoked just to have a B channel for my pool area speakers. LOL

 

[paradise]

Holy Guacamole, that's a shitload of cabling!

What happens when the drywaller or cabinet guy pokes a hole in one? Can you trace the bad spot easily?

Everything gets labeled? I picture me there with a roll of masking tape and a sharpie... :yikes


Will this all someday be wifi enabled and wireless?

A buddy of mine had something like this done at his custom place in Olivenhein. Stereo controls in each room. He could access his whole music library and play something different in each location. Mind Boggling.

I'm stoked just to have a B channel for my pool area speakers. LOL

It's not easy to figure out bad spots and at a certain point you are rolling the dice. We usually tone wires before drywall finish just to verify everything made it that far.

All wires have a custom label printed for them before wiring start pulling wire.

There is a touch panel in each room and each room will be an individual zone you can control. There will be multiple music streamers, Sattelite audio, cable boxes etc that will be accessible in each room.

 

[pronstar]

Jeebus...Is multiplexing over few wires an option?

Having one wire that has but one signal to carry seems inefficient in today's digital age...?

 

[paradise]

Jeebus...Is multiplexing over few wires an option?

Having one wire that has but one signal to carry seems inefficient in today's digital age...?

We do. It's called HDBaseT. We have one cat6 wire to each tv that will carry 4K video and 7.1 audio as well as Ethernet, rs232, ir, and provides us an audio return path for 2.1 ch audio back to the rack.

That's about as good as it gets.

We do run 2 wires to the TV's though because HDBaseT (which I was describing above) takes all 8 wires of a cat6. A standard Ethernet connection for a camera or a touch panel etc only uses 4 of the 8 so we will only run one to each of those. Some guys run up to 5 cat5/6 to each tv...

 

[paradise]

Jeebus...Is multiplexing over few wires an option?

Having one wire that has but one signal to carry seems inefficient in today's digital age...?

That said you still need a wire to eac speaker and subwoofer. That is a huge portion of the wires.

 

[paradise]

Just buttoned this up today.

Public opening is next Wednesday [emoji106]

Gonna be a cool place [emoji106][emoji106]

 

[paradise]

LOL

 

[pronstar]

Looks great, where's this place at?

 

[paradise]

Looks great, where's this place at?

The corner of Kettner and Juniper in San Diego. Opens up on 11/11.

It'll be open 7AM-10PM for all day chicken and eggs. We got to sample some of the sanwiches, they are bomb! Definitely try the blue grain cookies too and Eric the bartender is a champ :champagne:

 

[riverroyal]

:yikes

That would be my dream job right there. Great post, can't wait to see the updates!

my wife is a designer for AV. systems

 

[paradise]

Racks are shoehorned into their room. The racks are 6'6" to give you an idea

This is our access to the backs of the racks.

I'll post some more pics of the project tomorrow. He's flying on the project. Trying to be finished by Jan 21...

 

[paradise]

 

[JRS1939]

Looks pretty good. Except for using zip ties [emoji23]

 

[paradise]

Looks pretty good. Except for using zip ties [emoji23]

You a Velcro fan? I much prefer zip ties over Velcro personally... All of these still need to be final laced so the zip ties line up

 

[JRS1939]

Personally I like zip ties but I think velcro is more professional in the long run

 

[paradise]

Personally I like zip ties but I think velcro is more professional in the long run

We are the only ones servicing this so the serviceability concerns are kind of moot. Too hard to get Velcro to look good imho.

 

[paradise]

Fully deadened front wall of the theater. The screen is acoustically transparent and the panels are wrapped in acoustically transparent fabric.

 

[paradise]

Put these shades in last week out at the river. Cuts the glare and heat down a ton. They are a 2% openness favors so only 2% of heat gets through but you can still see through. Pretty trick.

32' long 10' tall. Fully motorized and integrated. Once we got all our brackets leveled on the incredibly uneven ceilings it was smooth sailing. Still took all day to get two shades installed though :/

 

[Sawtooth]

Wow those shades are really nice, impressive how much view you still have looking through them. Was this something you ordered and brought down to the river house or someone in the area build them?

 

[paradise]

Wow those shades are really nice, impressive how much view you still have looking through them. Was this something you ordered and brought down to the river house or someone in the area build them?

We're a distributor and installer for them. The manufacturer is Polar Shades.

They are reasonably easy to install and we can drop ship anywhere or they have dealers around the country. I'll try and grab a video next weekend.

 

[Joe mama]

Bitchin install! I can appreciate the quality and craftsmanship of your install.. Now days seems like shit just gets thrown in....:thumbsup

What were the 4 4gang boxes for in the closet? Power, switches, or a/v controls..

 

[paradise]

Bitchin install! I can appreciate the quality and craftsmanship of your install.. Now days seems like shit just gets thrown in....:thumbsup

What were the 4 4gang boxes for in the closet? Power, switches, or a/v controls..

They're switches [emoji106]

Then we use keypads or our control system to control the switches. It's much lower cost than doing a traditional lighting control system and easier for the electricians to wire.

 

[paradise]

Some finished pics of the house on Mt Helix :thumbup: It's still missing some artwork and misc items, but still turned out cool

Remote mounted Thermostats

 

[paradise]

Also did this at Seaside Market in Cardiff last week. Those are actually 70" displays, just hard to tell the scale.

 

[crzy2bealive]

Freaking awesome!!! Must be a pain in the ass to do the something like this in a home that's is already built

 

[paradise]

Freaking awesome!!! Must be a pain in the ass to do the something like this in a home that's is already built

Lol. It's not too bad in a single story but yeah a two story is a bitch. Usually people do it during a remodel if it's a retrofit. [emoji106]

 

[pronstar]

Holy shot that's awesome. What amps am I seeing in the lower part of that rack?

They look sorta like Crown, but I think that case design is shared with a bunch of MFR's...

 

[paradise]

Holy shot that's awesome. What amps am I seeing in the lower part of that rack?

They look sorta like Crown, but I think that case design is shared with a bunch of MFR's...

There is a crown Cdi1000 in the top left that drives the front yard's awesome outdoor speaker setup. 4 70V landscape speakers and a 12" burial subwoofer.

The bottom right are Behringer amps that actually power the theater system. Lots of people talk down on them, but we have had great luck with the iNuke's for theater use. These things are just cruising playing reference level content.:thumbup:

 

[pronstar]

The bottom right are Behringer amps that actually power the theater system. Lots of people talk down on them, but we have had great luck with the iNuke's for theater use. These things are just cruising playing reference level content.:thumbup:

Lots of people say the same about Crown, too :thumbsup
They're tough to beat for anywhere near their price.

 

[GET SOME]

There is a crown Cdi1000 in the top left that drives the front yard's awesome outdoor speaker setup. 4 70V landscape speakers and a 12" burial subwoofer.

The bottom right are Behringer amps that actually power the theater system. Lots of people talk down on them, but we have had great luck with the iNuke's for theater use. These things are just cruising playing reference level content.:thumbup:

Can you recommend a good quality outdoor speaker that is not going to brake the bank?
I'm thinking of running an amp and hooking Apple Airport to it for a stand alone unit in the backyard.

 

[paradise]

Lots of people say the same about Crown, too :thumbsup
They're tough to beat for anywhere near their price.

Yeah the price/watt is outrageous and we've found that as long as you're feeding them great input signal the output sounds great.

I wouldn't use them for dedicated 2ch music, but the price point makes them very compelling for HT and its crazy transients and levels :thumbsup

 

[paradise]

Can you recommend a good quality outdoor speaker that is not going to brake the bank?
I'm thinking of running an amp and hooking Apple Airport to it for a stand alone unit in the backyard.

Where are you going to be mounting the speaker? Wall mount or putting it in a planter etc? What's the budget? Shoot me a PM if you want

 

[paradise]

The Crack Shack in Encinitas is almost done. Opens on the 13th [emoji106] I need to grab some better pictures LOL

 

[paradise]

Heading to Tahoe to do a little service on a project, client offered to pick us up

 

[paradise]

Pretty awesome view for a vacation home