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Maybe a crazy idea but thinking of an open stacker trailer to pull behind a large motorhome with a 4x4 truck on the bottom and a low profile boat above.
We plan to spend many months a year on the road and I know what's going to happen, I'm going to want to go boating! And not in a rental.
Thinking the boat sits on bunks (not on a separate trailer) and goes up/down with hydraulics.
So when we get to our destination we unload truck, lower boat, unhitch from MH, hitch to 4x4 and take boat to launch.
Have seen pictures of a few of these on the web, anyone here have experience with such a contraption?
Looking at 45ft MH with 20k tow rating so the issue is more of size, not weight. A smaller SUV should be able to tow the short distances to the ramp.
Would need some sort of small 17-18ft low profile boat. Maybe an older I/O or jet or something new like a Startcraft SVX171 17ft deck boat, w/115 OB.
That's probably going to be at least 25ft, or 70ft total. Crazy?
 

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What is the lowest profile boat in the 17-18 ft range? From top of deck/seats to bottom of prop or skeg? I/O, OB, or Jet?
Need to keep the whole stack under 13'6" on the highway (same as MH).
 

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18 or 19 spectra jet?


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Tom Abraham out of NY brought out an enclosed stacker with a 20' Cigarette on the top and a Mercedes on the bottom. IF you were gonna put a 4x4 in it, you wouldn't need to dunk the stacker, you'd put it in with the 4x4. Boat sat on it's own trailer. You can see the boat and the stacker in this photo. I can't find the pick of it inside.

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There are some cool exposed set ups too. Seems you could put up to a 22' boat on it. I'd think a nice Schiada would work really well! 😁 ;)

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Have it built to your needs/specs. Definitely would need to be galvanized. Call Don, he’s reasonable and his stuff last. I’ve known him and his brother for 30 years. This is my fourth trailer from them. Built like a brick Shithouse.


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I've seen a couple snowbird types do it. They would hang the boat trailer like in @Tank showed. Winch on, roll off and launch with the truck. My guess for boat profile would be jet, as nothing is bellow the hull, so the trailer can be lower as well.
 

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I've seen a couple snowbird types do it. They would hang the boat trailer like in @Tank showed. Winch on, roll off and launch with the truck. My guess for boat profile would be jet, as nothing is bellow the hull, so the trailer can be lower as well.
Yeah, a buddle deck jet is probably the lowest you can go. Do like a car hauler trailer with the lift ramps but have a small center ramp for the bow jack that you can winch a standard boat trailer up there and launch with the SUV.

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My neighbor in big river just built hIs own stacker for his raptor truck and can am pulled behind his 40' pusher. Seemed to work out well. I see no reason it couldn't be done for your application. Upper deck raised/lowered on hyd. Rams.
 

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Cool thread, something I've been thinking about for sure. Googling the open stackers for boats and cars, I like this setup. Years ago I had a RIB inflatable as a tender to our sports fisher. Often rather than take the big boat out, I'd head out to La Jolla for yellowtail or offshore out trolling 15 miles out off the beach. We took it to Havasu and had a lot of fun with it exploring. It's light, seaworthy, move pretty good with decent power and easy to care for and haul around. I like this setup !!!

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Lots of cool ideas. I was just looking at used Donzi Sweet 16's on boat trader. Could be a fun toy with a built small block and trim tabs.
I had a 20 ft Schiada with a 300 merc OB but I think that is a little big and heavy for this. Example: https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1972-donzi-sweet-16-7251871/

As far as what to put under it, I could use my Raptor but I'm also ordering one of those new 4-dr broncos which is a smaller lighter truck.
Regardless the trailer will need to be custom made but need to decide what to put on it first. A classic old school boat would sure be cool to have during our travels.

My wife and I have pretty much decided on a lightly used Newmar London Aire (2018 or 19) and those are rated to tow 20k with 2k hitch weight.
Only issue is it will end up over the 65ft limit in most states but I read that it's usually not something that gets enforced.
 

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Tom Abraham out of NY brought out an enclosed stacker with a 20' Cigarette on the top and a Mercedes on the bottom. IF you were gonna put a 4x4 in it, you wouldn't need to dunk the stacker, you'd put it in with the 4x4. Boat sat on it's own trailer. You can see the boat and the stacker in this photo. I can't find the pick of it inside.

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There are some cool exposed set ups too. Seems you could put up to a 22' boat on it. I'd think a nice Schiada would work really well! 😁 ;)

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How do you load the boat and trailer into the enclosed stacker? Presume a winch but what keeps the nose on track? Is there a nose wheel on the trailer that rides in a track? And how to you unload it? Does the rack tilt so it just rolls out with gravity as you unwind the winch? Or does he back the boat trailer into the stacker trailer?
That would be sketch I'd think.
 

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The thing I have noticed about pulling behind my motor home is the motor home sucks up all the dust and dirt on the road and deposits all over what is being towed whether it is flat towing the jeep or the sxs on the flatbed. Got to where I carry an electric blower to give it a quick cleaning before firing it up. I am amazed at how much road dust ends up on the jeep motor from towing it.
 

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Oh dear God forgive me. But if you are looking for a reasonable answer, look into jets in that range or a flat bottom V-drive. Trailer should have minimal or no swivel to drop the boat into the water, etc, as to not have to much effect to trailer tounge weight.
It's going to be a an engineering adventure. Please keep us posted! 👍
 

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I think this the same Boat030 that use to be on here. Got this from a different site.

We do this with the race boat, the boat is on a "dolly trailer" where the wheels and fenders are tucked up underneath the boat.

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Why would you need to back up the trailer anywhere near the water? Unload the truck and the boat anywhere, hook them up and launch it with the truck.

Getting it high as the motorhome, it’s gonna be a big challenge. Not saying it can’t be done but it could be done at a costly expense
 

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It’s interesting to see how others are dealing with this problem of bringing toys with the RV.

For me, my plan is to tow a 2021 Ford Bronco Sasquatch Edition with the boat below carried on the roof rack of the Bronco. I am still mulling over between a Class A and a Class C diesel to pull it all with. Also, instead of a golf cart, I was going to get a pair of Phat Scooters for cruising the campgrounds and socializing.

 

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Lots of cool ideas. I was just looking at used Donzi Sweet 16's on boat trader. Could be a fun toy with a built small block and trim tabs.
I had a 20 ft Schiada with a 300 merc OB but I think that is a little big and heavy for this. Example: https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1972-donzi-sweet-16-7251871/

As far as what to put under it, I could use my Raptor but I'm also ordering one of those new 4-dr broncos which is a smaller lighter truck.
Regardless the trailer will need to be custom made but need to decide what to put on it first. A classic old school boat would sure be cool to have during our travels.

My wife and I have pretty much decided on a lightly used Newmar London Aire (2018 or 19) and those are rated to tow 20k with 2k hitch weight.
Only issue is it will end up over the 65ft limit in most states but I read that it's usually not something that gets enforced.

Any pictures of the Schiada? I have the same boat. 20RT [emoji1360]


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I'm biased but I would be looking at a 20' Stoker, Sleekcraft, Lavey, Baker or GMT tunnel. Even the production boats are light when compared to a similar size bass boat. Get a 15" mid on the motor and a hydraulic jack plate. Once you start raising the boat on the stacker trailer put the jack plate all the way down. With the new Bronco that setup should allow you to stay below the height of the RV you choose.
 

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Any pictures of the Schiada? I have the same boat. 20RT [emoji1360]


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I'm terrible with saving pictures. They were on a laptop I discarded. It was a 1981 hull, white with light blue and matching seat colors.
 

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I'm biased but I would be looking at a 20' Stoker, Sleekcraft, Lavey, Baker or GMT tunnel. Even the production boats are light when compared to a similar size bass boat. Get a 15" mid on the motor and a hydraulic jack plate. Once you start raising the boat on the stacker trailer put the jack plate all the way down. With the new Bronco that setup should allow you to stay below the height of the RV you choose.
This sounds like a good suggestion. My BIL had a Stoker and spoke highly of it. The Donzi 16 has a 24 deg V and looks fairly tall for such a short boat. OB Tunnel with a hyd jack plate might be the ticket I'm looking for. But 20ft is pretty long for what I'm trying to do. What's the shortest tunnel hull that still has a back set for the dog?
 

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That's some rig!

Love the Yamaha WaveBlaster...

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This sounds like a good suggestion. My BIL had a Stoker and spoke highly of it. The Donzi 16 has a 24 deg V and looks fairly tall for such a short boat. OB Tunnel with a hyd jack plate might be the ticket I'm looking for. But 20ft is pretty long for what I'm trying to do. What's the shortest tunnel hull that still has a back set for the dog?

Here is a 19' Baker for sale here on RDP.

 

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A little follow up on this. I bought the 1988 Baker Tunnel with the open bow and 150 Yamaha 2-stroke. Neat boat.
I bought a 2020 Newmar Dutch Star tag axle which is rated to tow 15,000 with 1500 tongue weight.
And I found my open stacker trailer in South Dakota and went up and got it. Trailer weighs about 5500 empty.
Modified the trailer to fit the track width of my 18 Raptor which is about 6500 lbs, and the Baker should be under 2k so 14,000 loaded trailer (has 16k in axles).
 

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Then we modifed the top deck which was setup to carry a boat trailer. Now it carries the Baker direct.
Went out to Lake Pleasant this morning and walked the Baker off it's little trailer and onto the stacker.
Fits beautifully, but I'll tell you that water is COLD this time of year.
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Raised it up a little and then remembered to shoot a couple shots of the new interior.
The Baker still had its original carpet and upholstry which was not that bad but showing it's age, a few heat cracks and such so all new now.
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I set the top deck at mid level for towing with nothing below it, keeps the stacker from racking and warping.
The Raptor will fit under it with plenty of room, I can lower the deck down to about 3" above the Raptor and top out around 13 ft 6".
I plan to put a hydraulic transom jack on it so I can drop the motor lower while towing. Shot a couple picks as it looks on highway with boat only.
Flying Baker! Looks kinda cool. We plan to tow the full setup to the Florida Keys this summer. I ended up at 67 ft overall length w/motorhome. Should be ok.
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BTW, still some more fab work to do on the fenders, it will have full fenders but had to clearance them for the Raptor.
 

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So let me get this straight, you are towing an F150 WITH and F150?


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So let me get this straight, you are towing an F150 WITH and F150?


Nice work.
No we tow the trailer with a huge diesel pusher when the Raptor and Baker are both on the trailer. That second F150 belongs to my fabricator and we just used that to get both trailers to the lake so we could float the Baker off it’s little trailer and onto the stacker.
 

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No we tow the trailer with a huge diesel pusher when the Raptor and Baker are both on the trailer. That second F150 belongs to my fabricator and we just used that to get both trailers to the lake so we could float the Baker off it’s little trailer and onto the stacker.

It was tongue in cheek but the trailer looks great. Can you put fenders on it? You’d hate to mess up the truck if you had a blow out.
 

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I set the top deck at mid level for towing with nothing below it, keeps the stacker from racking and warping.
The Raptor will fit under it with plenty of room, I can lower the deck down to about 3" above the Raptor and top out around 13 ft 6".
I plan to put a hydraulic transom jack on it so I can drop the motor lower while towing. Shot a couple picks as it looks on highway with boat only.
Flying Baker! Looks kinda cool. We plan to tow the full setup to the Florida Keys this summer. I ended up at 67 ft overall length w/motorhome. Should be ok.

Is the stacker motorized ? That's one hell of a cool setup. Did you find the trailer used ? --- I'm guessing you transferred the bunk measurements from the Baker trailer, so the stacker bunks were ready to go.
 

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I set the top deck at mid level for towing with nothing below it, keeps the stacker from racking and warping.
The Raptor will fit under it with plenty of room, I can lower the deck down to about 3" above the Raptor and top out around 13 ft 6".
I plan to put a hydraulic transom jack on it so I can drop the motor lower while towing. Shot a couple picks as it looks on highway with boat only.
Flying Baker! Looks kinda cool. We plan to tow the full setup to the Florida Keys this summer. I ended up at 67 ft overall length w/motorhome. Should be ok.
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This thing came out bitchen, I'm happy that you like the little Baker. Cool boat and should suit your needs perfectly.
 

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Is the stacker motorized ? That's one hell of a cool setup. Did you find the trailer used ? --- I'm guessing you transferred the bunk measurements from the Baker trailer, so the stacker bunks were ready to go.
Stacker is motorized with a hydraulic pump, ram, and cables and pulleys. Solar charger for battery and also electric winch on board. Electric over hydraulic brakes too. Found trailer used after chasing leads on internet. Drove to South Dakota to get it last month. Took measurements from the original trailer the Baker was on to make the bunks for the stacker.
 

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Stacker is motorized with a hydraulic pump, ram, and cables and pulleys. Solar charger for battery and also electric winch on board. Electric over hydraulic brakes too. Found trailer used after chasing leads on internet. Drove to South Dakota to get it last month. Took measurements from the original trailer the Baker was on to make the bunks for the stacker.

Should you desire to do some salt water boating during your travels. I wouldn't want to dip it in salt, does the bunk and trailer design allow for it being fork lifted off or slung ?
 
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