Hallett285
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Difference between dealing with a guy like Preston and other outfits is Preston will 100% make this right.
The true testament to a company isn’t when things are peachy and going 100% right. The testament to a company is when things go wrong and how they handle it.
Now, I have only been on the board for a year or so. I haven't seen too terribly many posts by you. The ones I have read are pretty much stained by spewing of hatred for RD. I am sure you have your reasons (took your last beer from the cooler, made fun of the gel on your boat...took your lunch money in elementary school). One may ask though, why do you choose to bless us with your presence? Most here are smartasses in general. That said, most are "equal opportunity" haters, and tend to pick on all members equally. If there is a problem with one individual, squash is it amongst yourselves.Par for the course here on this Blog.... it is the supreme rulers "position" that somehow the people at Horizon are now charged with "making this right".... they sold a USED boat, I am assuming that it was being operated by the new Owner who is responsible for INSURING IT, and assumes the responsibility for operating it properly as well as taking on the responsibility we all have as Boat Owners for problems that may surface.....
This is unfortunate for sure (regardless of the length of time he owned the boat) and a horrible way to have your 75 degree saturday boating day come to an end but the reality is no one knows the fact set at all here............ maybe the guy was looking in the gas tank with a cigarette lighter to see how much fuel was left because the gas gauge was not working....... we simply don't know..... I was on the water when this happened and drove by - it was ugly.
But Preston will "stroke a check to make it right"..... Okay Dave,, that makes a lot of sense...
Now, I have only been on the board for a year or so. I haven't seen too terribly many posts by you. The ones I have read are pretty much stained by spewing of hatred for RD. I am sure you have your reasons (took your last beer from the cooler, made fun of the gel on your boat...took your lunch money in elementary school). One may ask though, why do you choose to bless us with your presence? Most here are smartasses in general. That said, most are "equal opportunity" haters, and tend to pick on all members equally. If there is a problem with one individual, squash is it amongst yourselves.
He does have a point though. It’s a bad situation all around. I don’t see a dealer taking the fall on a full loss insurance claim post delivery.
It may be another one of those deals that forum management should have just said nothing at all.
But it was not my boat, nor was I the dealer, so who knows.
IMO, Preston will work with new owners insurance company to get as much $$ as possible and then try to get owner into another boat at the right price without additional out of pocket money.
No way a business is going to eat a 140k consignment sale. Business don’t stay in business doing that.
That is the best case wishful thinking scenario if then insurance Co’s play nice with each other, but yea.
IMO, Preston will work with new owners insurance company to get as much $$ as possible and then try to get owner into another boat at the right price without additional out of pocket money.
No way a business is going to eat a 140k consignment sale. Business don’t stay in business doing that.
I'm guessing it will not be easy. Crappy situation for both parties.
I would think/hope that Preston isn’t on the line for the whole thing. We were able to get insurance docs signed and official in roughly an hour on the current boat. Hopefully the owners were able to get everything signed, dotted and crossed. Bummer deal for everyone involved.
Yea, one of those deals that no one is happy about. Thankfully no one was hurt.
Par for the course here on this Blog.... it is the supreme rulers "position" that somehow the people at Horizon are now charged with "making this right".... they sold a USED boat, I am assuming that it was being operated by the new Owner who is responsible for INSURING IT, and assumes the responsibility for operating it properly as well as taking on the responsibility we all have as Boat Owners for problems that may surface.....
This is unfortunate for sure (regardless of the length of time he owned the boat) and a horrible way to have your 75 degree saturday boating day come to an end but the reality is no one knows the fact set at all here............ maybe the guy was looking in the gas tank with a cigarette lighter to see how much fuel was left because the gas gauge was not working....... we simply don't know..... I was on the water when this happened and drove by - it was ugly.
But Preston will "stroke a check to make it right"..... Okay Dave,, that makes a lot of sense...
See, I knew you were with Preston this weekend from another thread so I knew you had inside information.Could be Preston is a friend of mine and I have watched him bend over backwards for customers time and time again over and beyond (way over and beyond) what is even his responsibility.
Might be I was standing next to Preston when the pics of the fire were coming in at Oldsmobile hill..
Maybe it was when I was grabbing beers out of Billy Blake’s cooler in Preston’s camp later that night after it came to light that it was Horizon that sold the boat when he said “I’ll do whatever it takes even if I have to buy the boat back.”
I dunno..
All said and done the guy is getting another boat from Horizon right now. The boat was insured by the new owner and it is being handled.
Customer is happy at the end of the day and when the official reports come out as to what happened, if you are really interested in knowing what happened I can share it with you then.
Maybe if you weren’t so New to Boating you’d realize not everyone in this industry is out to get someone. There are some good people in this industry, Preston is one of them. I’d say you aren’t but we already went over the fact that you aren’t in the industry in our last exchange.. lol
Anybody happen to see or get a video of the police boats extinguishing the fire on the Magic using their outboards as this write up states ?
I've watched pwcs hosing down a boat fire and I've read about outboards trimmed up and throttle pinned throwing a nice roost, but never seen it.
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Could be Preston is a friend of mine and I have watched him bend over backwards for customers time and time again over and beyond (way over and beyond) what is even his responsibility.
Might be I was standing next to Preston when the pics of the fire were coming in at Oldsmobile hill..
Maybe it was when I was grabbing beers out of Billy Blake’s cooler in Preston’s camp later that night after it came to light that it was Horizon that sold the boat when he said “I’ll do whatever it takes even if I have to buy the boat back.”
I dunno..
All said and done the guy is getting another boat from Horizon right now. The boat was insured by the new owner and it is being handled.
Customer is happy at the end of the day and when the official reports come out as to what happened, if you are really interested in knowing what happened I can share it with you then.
Maybe if you weren’t so New to Boating you’d realize not everyone in this industry is out to get someone. There are some good people in this industry, Preston is one of them. I’d say you aren’t but we already went over the fact that you aren’t in the industry in our last exchange.. lol
Can someone enlighten me on why its the dealers fault? He sold a used boat. As-is.
I get sued once per year over dumb shit I have no control over. All these frivolous lawsuits just create a higher cost for the consumer. A prime example is real estate commissions. It's always the agent who gets sued. Cost is passed on to homeowners.
That's really cool of Preston. Frankly, he could've legally and actually morally said, "I'm really sorry this happened, good luck" and washed his hands. I mean, it's not his fault the boat caught fire and there's no obligation to do anything. You're not the only person in the industry I've heard praise Preston either. Seems to be a common theme. Goes to shows there are some individuals left in the performance boating arena that are good people. I'm happy there's a happy ending here for everyone.Could be Preston is a friend of mine and I have watched him bend over backwards for customers time and time again over and beyond (way over and beyond) what is even his responsibility.
Might be I was standing next to Preston when the pics of the fire were coming in at Oldsmobile hill..
Maybe it was when I was grabbing beers out of Billy Blake’s cooler in Preston’s camp later that night after it came to light that it was Horizon that sold the boat when he said “I’ll do whatever it takes even if I have to buy the boat back.”
I dunno..
All said and done the guy is getting another boat from Horizon right now. The boat was insured by the new owner and it is being handled.
Customer is happy at the end of the day and when the official reports come out as to what happened, if you are really interested in knowing what happened I can share it with you then.
Maybe if you weren’t so New to Boating you’d realize not everyone in this industry is out to get someone. There are some good people in this industry, Preston is one of them. I’d say you aren’t but we already went over the fact that you aren’t in the industry in our last exchange.. lol
So used boat sales are now linked to real estate commissions? Realtors have E&O insurance (if not a fly by night operation), how is it the homeowners obsorb the costs, school me please.
I want to know what actually happen to the boat to catch fire.
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I want to know what actually happen to the boat to catch fire.
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I know Dave’s is friends with Preston and don’t doubt what Dave said was true...
However, I don’t see the need for Preston to do anything really. The boat is insured and the guy is back in the market and may buy another boat from Preston.
About the only thing I can see Preston possibly doing is letting the burned boat owner store it at Horizon while the adjusters work out the details?
I guess I don’t even see the need for some heroic action on the part of Preston???
To be clear of what I was saying was l, If Horizon has sold the guy a bum boat and the new owner was gonna take it in the shorts, Preston would have stepped up and made it right.. He would have just bought it back.
I don’t think he would be on the hook anyway?
If I buy a 10 year old used car from a dealer and it explodes 5 miles down the road, it’s kind of my problem. If Horizon did their due diligence in some sort of pre purchase inspection or safety check, (which they seem to be reputable and likely did) it is just an unfortunate accident.
To your point, insurance is easy and quick to obtain.
I guess I don’t even see the need for some heroic action on the part of Preston???
Do you think EO is free? So many frivolous lawsuits have increased the costs of doing business (increased premiums), which then gets passed on to the consumer.
It's a simple analogy. To answer your question, no, the 2 are not related.
I agree. However, with so many keyboard know-it-alls, it would be worth buying back just to save his reputation if it came to that. Stuff like this is what I hate the most about being in business for myself.
So I've seen this happen in a Car Dealership. The Dealership was held accountable, because of the Safety Inspection.
Pretty sticky situation for Horizon.
Not that we represent all the eyeballs on this, but I don't think Horizon is in the business of selling bum boats, nor does this situation come off that way to me.
25 years of selling thousands of boats and this is the first time one thing like this has happened.
Sooo, having never burnt nor sunk a boat before...would there be anything salvageable from the engine assembly?
Rotating assembly, block and heads?
The vultures are swooping in already lol. First the trailer now the engine
Sooo, having never burnt nor sunk a boat before...would there be anything salvageable from the engine assembly?
Rotating assembly, block and heads?
t was exactly my thoughts. Horizon sells some high quality products at a high quality price. Being in business for that long you would think Preston's customer service would be right up there with the price of the products he sells. Always good to know the good people in the business.Not that we represent all the eyeballs on this, but I don't think Horizon is in the business of selling bum boats, nor does this situation come off that way to me.
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t was exactly my thoughts. Horizon sells some high quality products at a high quality price. Being in business for that long you would think Preston's customer service would be right up there with the price of the products he sells. Always good to know the good people in the business.
And for the people ripping Dave....Dave is a wealth of information just like this website. Ive gotten to know him over the last few years and i value his opinion on boating. Not everyone does. But there sure seems to be a lot of people on this website. and a shitton of manufacturers who believe in what dave has put together.....He isnt right all the time but ill give him the benefit of the doubt!
Dibs on steering wheelThe vultures are swooping in already lol. First the trailer now the engine
Do we need to bow down too?I go by supreme ruler now.. Just an FYI. .
Do we need to bow down too?
Could be Preston is a friend of mine and I have watched him bend over backwards for customers time and time again over and beyond (way over and beyond) what is even his responsibility.
Might be I was standing next to Preston when the pics of the fire were coming in at Oldsmobile hill..
Maybe it was when I was grabbing beers out of Billy Blake’s cooler in Preston’s camp later that night after it came to light that it was Horizon that sold the boat when he said “I’ll do whatever it takes even if I have to buy the boat back.”
I dunno..
All said and done the guy is getting another boat from Horizon right now. The boat was insured by the new owner and it is being handled.
Customer is happy at the end of the day and when the official reports come out as to what happened, if you are really interested in knowing what happened I can share it with you then.
Maybe if you weren’t so New to Boating you’d realize not everyone in this industry is out to get someone. There are some good people in this industry, Preston is one of them. I’d say you aren’t but we already went over the fact that you aren’t in the industry in our last exchange.. lol
Billy Blake?
That’s Trifecta Mafia to you son....lol
Did you take him for a ride in the Canned Ham?
We are working him up slowly.. You can't just drop all that bad assness on somebody that fast. They will likely crack.
RD