Boeing's a Wreck

[regor]

Another Boeing Jet Just Suffered Engine Issues, Dropped Metal Parts Across Dutch Town

...it's the same engine too!

• MON FEB 22, AT 9:50 AM

This on the heels of the exact same P&W engine exploding in flight over Denver this weekend.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

You are wrong. P&W is a wreck.

 

[regor]

You are wrong. P&W is a wreck.

Alright I'll meet you halfway............................Boeing's QA is a wreck.

 

[bldrinker]

I have sold 15 shares so far this morning. Luckily I sold another 20 last week.
only have 43 left.
I might just shut the whole thing down.

 

[Singleton]

It’s the engine not the plane.
Biggest question I have flying right now, was the plane sitting in storage or been in service.
These things are made for repeat service, sitting as long as some plane have, are going to cause issues IMO.

 

[DaveH]

does anyone find it weird,,, that as Boeing is now resuming flying/testing their max jet.....now this?

maybe i am a conspiracy theorist......but these engines are tested and proven with years of use. to have two of them fail within such a short time of each other smells like someone is trying to manipulate Boeing stock. even though they don't make the engines......Boeing will take the hit.

 

[HNL2LHC]

You had to post this with us flying this afternoon. Hopefully it Will be uneventful like it was on Saturday.

 

[Singleton]

You had to post this with us flying this afternoon. Hopefully it Will be uneventful like it was on Saturday.

your most likely have GE power
Sister worked for GE Aviation, now at corporate in Investor Relations

 

[Richard.E]

Things go boom sometimes. When something fails it’s normally catastrophic, the general public seems to think planes are always perfect and never have issues. Lol.
Blaming Boeing QA is kind of ridiculous in this case.

 

[Richard.E]

Alright I'll meet you halfway............................Boeing's QA is a wreck.

Because Boeing QA is responsible for an airlines maintenance practices and inspections. Lol ok.
Pratt and Whitney would be the one to point the finger at. Can’t say Boeing has ever been in the engine building business.

 

[Looking Glass]

Things go boom sometimes. When something fails it’s normally catastrophic, the general public seems to think planes are always perfect and never have issues. Lol.
Blaming Boeing QA is kind of ridiculous in this case.

Things could always have been worse is an understatement. This could have happened half way to Hawaii their destination.

 

[regor]

MAX 737
Boeing’s plane engines failing

Nope, not Boeing’s fault!!!!

Good God boy’s, get your shit together, Airbus is a bunch of Euro clowns that are kicking your ass!!

 

[Universal Elements]

Things could always have been worse is an understatement. This could have happened half way to Hawaii their destination.

Wouldn’t matter, aircraft are ETOPS certified to make it to Hawaii on 1 engine

 

[4Waters]

Things go boom sometimes. When something fails it’s normally catastrophic, the general public seems to think planes are always perfect and never have issues. Lol.
Blaming Boeing QA is kind of ridiculous in this case.

^^^this^^^ if it's mechanical weather It's big or small It's gonna fail at some point, most of the time they catch a small failure during inspection before it becomes a big failure. The airline industry had a better track record of catching failures early before they become catastrophic than the automotive industry, could you imagine the auto industry building plane engines. "We've had problems for the last several years with this fuel pump but let's go ahead and put this CP4 pump in this plane engine"

 

[SBMech]

^^^this^^^ if it's mechanical weather It's big or small It's gonna fail at some point, most of the time they catch a small failure during inspection before it becomes a big failure. The airline industry had a better track record of catching failures early before they become catastrophic than the automotive industry, could you imagine the auto industry building plane engines. "We've had problems for the last several years with this fuel pump but let's go ahead and put this CP4 pump in this plane engine"

Can you imagine if everyone who owned a car had to pay $10k for an inspection every time it was serviced?
Or if a problem was found you are REQUIRED to fix it.

It's amazing to me more vehicles don't just burst into flames daily, because maintenance is a foreign word to 80% of vehicle owners.

 

[Looking Glass]

Wouldn’t matter, aircraft are ETOPS certified to make it to Hawaii on 1 engine

Well!!, then all this Major Concern is crazy. Everything is Fine.

 

[rrrr]

does anyone find it weird,,, that as Boeing is now resuming flying/testing their max jet.....now this?

maybe i am a conspiracy theorist......but these engines are tested and proven with years of use. to have two of them fail within such a short time of each other smells like someone is trying to manipulate Boeing stock. even though they don't make the engines......Boeing will take the hit.

You're a conspiracy theorist. Turbofan engines can't be made to disintegrate on cue.

 

[framer1]

What happened to the saying "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going"

 

[DaveH]

You're a conspiracy theorist. Turbofan engines can't be made to disintegrate on cue.

absolutely correct. its called sabotage.

 

[ka0tyk]

Can you imagine if everyone who owned a car had to pay $10k for an inspection every time it was serviced?
Or if a problem was found you are REQUIRED to fix it.

It's amazing to me more vehicles don't just burst into flames daily, because maintenance is a foreign word to 80% of vehicle owners.

"yes mam, your brake pads still have 50% left... but you're required to replace them by law because thats not enough"

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

Outsourcing

 

[wzuber]

Wouldn’t matter, aircraft are ETOPS certified to make it to Hawaii on 1 engine

Correct, so long as the engine fire will extinguish. If not, and it ignites the wing, now you have a serious problem to contend with. BBQ wings are not meant for aircraft. Haha

 

[Q4mtxUS]

Its not running through the hangar with any dire alarms going off in peoples heads too much around here. But, the storage concern and the RTS after storage sounds plausible.

However, an engine still producing power, albeit limited in this case, is stiil considerd a GOOD engine.

EDIT: I saw someone mention MRO (outsource).........possibly

 

[Looking Glass]

Newsmax, just discussing this subject claimed this 777, was serviced while a replacement engine was being replaced at it flew to Hawaii later that day and did a turn around back to Denver.

 

[wzuber]

Newsmax, just discussing this subject claimed this 777, was serviced while a replacement engine was being replaced at it flew to Hawaii later that day and did a turn around back to Denver.

Yep...just like a top fueler.....drop in a fresh bullit and send it.....easy peasy.....lol

 

[Looking Glass]

Yep...just like a top fueler.....drop in a fresh bullit and send it.....easy peasy.....lol

No one will know the difference

 

[Waterjunky]

Was it the same one that was replaced? If so that could explain some of this..... otherwise the flight got luckier than they thought already.

 

[Universal Elements]

MAX 737
Boeing’s plane engines failing

Nope, not Boeing’s fault!!!!

Good God boy’s, get your shit together, Airbus is a bunch of Euro clowns that are kicking your ass!!

Scarebus sux, nice financing packages but no thanks. Disposable aircraft. Next time you fly, tap on the aluminum of a scarebus. Let us know your findings.

 

[SkyDirtWaterguy]

 

[Universal Elements]

Well!!, then all this Major Concern is crazy. Everything is Fine.

You’re 100 times more likely to get hit by a PWC on the river than even having a minor mishap on a commercial airliner.

 

[buck35]

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The one thing of note here is that plane has already landed,so there's that I suppose.

 

[530RL]

What happened to the saying "If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going"

The Boeing thing worked fine, it was the Pratt thingy that done blew up.

Only 10 percent of the 777 fleet has Pratt power. The rest is GE. And it is the older -200 and -300 models that have Pratt power.

Those older Pratt engines use a hallow fan blade and will need more frequent inspections until they are eventually retired.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

This was engine maintenance pure and simple. Looked like a rotor disk burst, possibly turbine from the looks of it, or it could be compressor side (less likely), and the containment system at least kept debris from penetrating the wing or the fuselage (which is a success in my book). Most jets are a turbine rotor burst due to heat cycling and the fact that they grow those turbine blades from metal crystals for the structure to withstand heat.

The maintenance is supposed to check the blades, but cracks can still form and not be seen with the human eye. You'd need a scope to find them.

The plane had nothing to do with it. I'd fly a 777 even with a P&W engine because the aircraft is solid, and if maintenance were solid too, the engine would be taken out of service before this happened. 100% on the airline and their maintenance crew. P&W builds good engines, just like GE. Rotor bursts can happen to either of them.

 

[lakemadness]

Newsmax, just discussing this subject claimed this 777, was serviced while a replacement engine was being replaced at it flew to Hawaii later that day and did a turn around back to Denver.

what? Reading that gives me a headache...

 

[coolchange]

My bil says he can fly to Japan on a 777 and be rested. The Airbus feels just that, like he took a bus.

 

[Carlson-jet]

Slow news cycle? Everybody lived for another day.
Meanwhile back at the ranch.

Almost all of the components of everything anyone on here owns is outsourced to some degree.
That is a huge paper trail.

 

[nowski]

absolutely correct. its called sabotage.

Or it could be caused by FOD. That would be my guess...

 

[spectra3279]

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[lbhsbz]

You're a conspiracy theorist. Turbofan engines can't be made to disintegrate on cue.

What if the hollow fan blades weren't hollow?

 

[rrrr]

What if the hollow fan blades weren't hollow?

What if the airplane was hit by a death ray?

 

[Bails]

Well it wasn't a very good death ray

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

If I look out the window on Thurs and see that, I’m going to shit myself.... damn that must have been scary.

 

[bonesfab]

What if it was in a treadmill??

 

[spectra3279]

Well it wasn't a very good death ray

Don't know about that. It sure as hell killed that engine.

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[DB / HAV]

You’re 100 times more likely to get hit by a PWC on the river than even having a minor mishap on a commercial airliner.

Great- I’m heading to the airport now and then Havasu this weekend...what are my chances??

 

[Waffles]

Great- I’m heading to the airport now and then Havasu this weekend...what are my chances??

Don’t quote me on this, but yes.

 

[Universal Elements]

Great- I’m heading to the airport now and then Havasu this weekend...what are my chances??

Chances of you having a good time are highly probable

 

[Keymyster]

Trump's fault.

 

[DB / HAV]

Don’t quote me on this, but yes.

I hope you are right!!

 

[HNL2LHC]

Great- I’m heading to the airport now and then Havasu this weekend...what are my chances??

I just flew from SFO to Vegas and lived to see another day. I’d bet you will do the same unless you take Rice Road. :looking: