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You can hear the lawyers getting queued up as we speak. The 14th Amendment says otherwise.
Granting citizenship to the spawn of law breaking illegals is not quite what the 14th was written for. Come in legally and yes the children you birth should be citizens.
And the second amendment wasn't for weapons of war.... It either all applies as written or none of it does, IMHO.
I would like to see an SCOTUS opinion upholding that meme. It is my understanding that clause allows for children born to US citizens outside of the US to retain natural citizenship. I could be wrong, I often am. If people don't like the law as written then change it, the Constitution tells you how to accomplish that.
just turn those 80,000 IRS agents into INS agents. That's where we really need more federal employees to take care of the migrant crisis the idiots you support created.What is equally interesting is does such an executive order then strip citizenship
from the millions historically granted citizenship under the 14th.
And further, their children, believing they were born to US citizens were now not, invalidating their citizenship.
The INS and state department are going to need a big budget boost to sort this stuff out.
Good time to be a lawyer. Going to be plenty of business going forward.
And the second amendment wasn't for weapons of war.... It either all applies as written or none of it does, IMHO.
I would like to see an SCOTUS opinion upholding that meme. It is my understanding that clause allows for children born to US citizens outside of the US to retain natural citizenship. I could be wrong, I often am. If people don't like the law as written then change it, the Constitution tells you how to accomplish that.
Fix the root of the problem, not the flower. Close (secure) the border.
We’ve been here at work the last few day marveling at that very thing.It's amazing to me to have American citizens fight so hard for those who illegally crossed our boarder and shouldn't be here. Our own Government helping those that crossed illegally. It's mind-blowing actually.. Let's help everyone out except the tax paying citizens of America. I just don't understand the logic. And it's gonna be more than just getting votes.
If we allow the government to ignore the constitution and the rule of law to accomplish what we agree with, we can’t really bitch when the government ignores the constitution and rule of law to accomplish what we disagree with.It's amazing to me to have American citizens fight so hard for those who illegally crossed our boarder and shouldn't be here. Our own Government helping those that crossed illegally. It's mind-blowing actually.. Let's help everyone out except the tax paying citizens of America. I just don't understand the logic. And it's gotta be more than just getting votes.
If we allow the government to ignore the constitution and the rule of law to accomplish what we agree with, we can’t really bitch when the government ignores the constitution and rule of law to accomplish what we disagree with.
100%, but who does someone call when an employer gets and obvious fake SS card? I tried reporting someone years ago when I lived in SoCa and was an employer and got nowhere.And go after the employers.
You mean like fix the whole broken social security system that is probably in reality insolvent after all these years. How about if you didn't pay in funds, you don't get to take out funds.100%, but who does someone call when an employer gets and obvious fake SS card? I tried reporting someone years ago when I lived in SoCa and was an employer and got nowhere.
We also need to update the SS card. It seems ridiculous to me that we don't have a modern SS card with some security behind it.
If we allow the government to ignore the constitution and the rule of law to accomplish what we agree with, we can’t really bitch when the government ignores the constitution and rule of law to accomplish what we disagree with.
Slippery slop.Exactly. If they can just change the 14th, what stops the next blue president from changing the 2nd..?
The vote of the States, if I’m not mistaken.Exactly. If they can just change the 14th, what stops the next blue president from changing the 2nd..?
He can’t point out where Constitutional rights extend to illegal entrants.But why are some of my liberal friends hell bent on taking care of Illegal immigrants? It's like they are rewarded for crossing the boarder illegally. Please answer this and help me understand.
Be honest, are you willing to house a family that illegally crossed the border and take care of them financially? As in move in to your house?
No you wouldn't...
Taking care of people that don't pay taxes or contribute is a way to sink an economy, and the middle class.
The vote of the States, if I’m not mistaken.
Actually, it was written specifically for weapons of war to be used against a tyrannical government at a time that the founding fathers feared a standing army. Self protection against crime and shooting sports were an added benefit. Later through SCOTUS cases, military weapons were excluded such as machine guns. That said, in many states like Louisiana, you can get a permit to own just about anything without "de-militarizing" it.And the second amendment wasn't for weapons of war.... It either all applies as written or none of it does, IMHO.
I don’t claim to be super well versed in constitutional law outside things that pertain to my job, but that whole thing is such a slippery slope.
People crawl under barbed wire and risk drowning just to try for a piece of the American Dream.. but there’s got to be a better way to handle the whole thing.
And the second amendment wasn't for weapons of war.... It either all applies as written or none of it does, IMHO.
I would like to see an SCOTUS opinion upholding that meme. It is my understanding that clause allows for children born to US citizens outside of the US to retain natural citizenship. I could be wrong, I often am. If people don't like the law as written then change it, the Constitution tells you how to accomplish that.
I've never supported illegal immigration and have no interest in supporting any illegal immigrants. I don't even have any interest in supporting US citizens who are perfectly capable of working but want to live off the dole because they can't find a job they "like". All those fuckers during covid taking 600 bucks a week off the federal government when there were millions of unfilled jobs was ridiculous. Those Americans who were capable of working milking the system were worse than illegals, most of the illegals are willing to work.But why are some of my liberal friends hell bent on taking care of Illegal immigrants? It's like they are rewarded for crossing the boarder illegally. Please answer this and help me understand.
Be honest, are you willing to house a family that illegally crossed the border and take care of them financially? As in move in to your house?
No you wouldn't...
Taking care of people that don't pay taxes or contribute is a way to sink an economy, and the middle class.
Nice try dickhead.I've never supported illegal immigration and have no interest in supporting any illegal immigrants. I don't even have any interest in supporting US citizens who are perfectly capable of working but want to live off the dole because they can't find a job they "like". All those fuckers during covid taking 600 bucks a week off the federal government when there were millions of unfilled jobs was ridiculous. Those Americans who were capable of working milking the system were worse than illegals, most of the illegals are willing to work.
I have however repeatedly supported cleaning up a 4 decade old law that is so complicated and convoluted that it is only second in number of pages to the Internal Revenue Code, but ironically people keep telling me my penchant for doing things consistent with the law makes me a liberal? Who would have known that liberals are now the ones who want to do shit right.
So I have to agree with your comment. I too am tired of "Taking care of people that don't pay taxes or contribute is a way to sink an economy, and the middle class", but I can recognize it isn't just the illegals. If we thought about it, there are probably some illegals we would gladly swap for some of our own citizens if it was simply based upon merit.
People seem to have this misconception about immigration into the USA.
We as a nation have had all kinds of restrictions, quotas, limits, qualifications and even race based bans on immigration for well over 100 years.
Trump is not the devil closing our borders.
It will be a miracle if he can even plug the hole a little bit after the complete disaster of the last 4 years.
In 1882 we outright banned Chinese immigrants, and the 1920’s had several big laws enacted in the wake of WWI and we implemented all kinds of low skilled bans.
We have ALWAYS been sort of tight and careful about who comes here, and even how many from various countries.
The last 4 years have pretty much been a total free for all violating over a centuries worth of immigration standards.
But for some reason, Trump is Hitler for even TRYING to get it back on historical track.
Having said that, again, he should not attempt this EO.
It’s clearly not possible and will be a total waste of resources. He will have to do it another way.
So I have to agree with your comment. I too am tired of "Taking care of people that don't pay taxes or contribute is a way to sink an economy, and the middle class", but I can recognize it isn't just the illegals. If we thought about it, there are probably some illegals we would gladly swap for some of our own citizens if it was simply based upon merit.
You don't pay UE the employer does.Nice try dickhead.
So having paid unemployment insurance for over 30 years without a claim, then drawing it for 4 months until another drilling job came open makes me a pos freeloader?
Milking the system, worse than an illegal?
Fuck you.
I’ve paid in my entire life. Both taxes AND UI.
Remember that next time you have a vehicle repaired with an insurance claim…or use your home insurance for something. Will that also be milking the system??
Conflating an insurance claim and a handout seems about right for your purposes though…and I never asked for the $600
I remember how you lost your mind when I built my model airplanes.
That was funny shit.
Your passive aggressive tilt at martyrdom is laughable.
You do see I’m agreeing with you about the EO?
I hear he’s got carte Blanche in S Korea…?Americans should be taken care of before illegal immigrants, period.. Hurricane victims, Fire victims, Flood victims, the elderly, Veterans etc.. Should get the priority over people who cross our border. It's absolutely nuts that the left is so against that border wall, Harris deserves to lose just off the border issue and how they failed at it. Absolutely no accountability.. And it's not a race thing.
Try getting into Australia.... Not gonna happen until you prove to that government that you can contribute. I see nothing wrong with that.
I was my employer for many years.You don't pay UE the employer does.
Wrong. The consumer does. Employers add those costs into their product or service and the consumer pays for it.You don't pay UE the employer does.
It’s always been that way. It’s required. No different than any other business overhead.Wrong. The consumer does. Employers add those costs into their product or service and the consumer pays for it.
You mean like fix the whole broken social security system that is probably in reality insolvent after all these years. How about if you didn't pay in funds, you don't get to take out funds.
I’d rather have invested it myself.How about paying back all the money that's been taken out of by the government. Plus any interest that money would have made
I’d rather have invested it myself.
With that logic I guess the consumer pays the fuel bill for every company that has a vehicle. I was merely pointing out that an employee doesn't pay it the contributions come from the employer to EDD etcWrong. The consumer does. Employers add those costs into their product or service and the consumer pays for it.
Technically speaking.I was merely pointing out that an employee doesn't pay it the contributions come from the employer to EDD etc