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The tard media has latched on to a new narrative for awhile. Every station, every website, it's the main headline, some doubled up on the same page (repeat, repeat). It's so obvious they know how to manipulate the tard minds.

They know damn well it's been going on forever & they really aren't torn from their families. They come alone & all of them can go home with their parents if the parents are with them, which obviously they aren't.

They call it Trumps policy, yet he didn't write the laws.

They might as well just televise a pendulum going back & forth, back and forth, you're tiny mind is getting sleepy, it's getting sleepier....snap....Mexican kids are being ripped from their parents, run, protest, cry, protest, run, run, run, Trump is gonna getcha....
 

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Poor ignorant people put their children into a situation and then the left uses it as a bitch point. And the lefties bitching as typical ignore the laws and how their nonsense has caused the whole of the situation to exist.......

I was in line to checkout at Kroger's the other day. A Mexican lady that spoke little English and obviously a recent immigrant with several kids put her groceries on her Lone Star card and then paid cash for a case of beer and a couple of decorated cakes. I doubt she noticed the looks of pure disgust from the other shoppers.

The left has shown these people how to come here and use the US, covering the situation with whines and lies.:mad:
 

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Like I said, they’re not the brightest breed in the shelter, but they are loyal!

Hell look around here, they’re humiliated daily , but stick to the narrative handed down by their masters.

Good boy!!!!

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The tard media has latched on to a new narrative for awhile. Every station, every website, it's the main headline, some doubled up on the same page (repeat, repeat). It's so obvious they know how to manipulate the tard minds.

They know damn well it's been going on forever & they really aren't torn from their families. They come alone & all of them can go home with their parents if the parents are with them, which obviously they aren't.

They call it Trumps policy, yet he didn't write the laws.

They might as well just televise a pendulum going back & forth, back and forth, you're tiny mind is getting sleepy, it's getting sleepier....snap....Mexican kids are being ripped from their parents, run, protest, cry, protest, run, run, run, Trump is gonna getcha....
Every single tv news Channel refers to them as immigrants and not illegal immigrants fucking cracks me up God damn fucking media.

It is nothing more than trying to stack the deck to get votes in the future.... desperation at its finest
 

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absolutely massively coordinated effort, I have never seen it this concentrated before TBH.... Here's the deal,

The Stormy Daniels story has failed, the IG report has opened up a new can of worms into the conspiracy laid against Trump before during and after the election. Mueller's Special counsel isn't bearing any fruit at all related to Trump or the election. The democrats have no positive platform to run on in 2018, all they have is "Fuck Trump".

So they have now put all of their chips in front of this garbage, but they fail to realize is that Trump isn't going to back down, this is a policy that has been the same for decades, and their little emotional heart string anecdotes won't work, because they aren't truthful in the big picture. Once again they will fail with crap and lose even more credibility.
 

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You see all the RED? Those families take care of their kids.Those families were NOT concerned about illegal immigration in 2016 they will not care about it in 2018.2020 illegal immigration will be well on it's way to being a non issue for the Media to whine about.
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There'll come a day when those ripping children away from their parents at the border will say, "I was only following orders." And we know where we've heard that before.
 

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There'll come a day when those ripping children away from their parents at the border will say, "I was only following orders." And we know where we've heard that before.

GTFO of here GRADS, absolutely ridiculous.

Where is the outrage of children being ripped from their parents here in the US when the parent commits a crime and goes to jail?

How about that over 80% of the kids being trafficked into the US aren't even traveling with their parents....

You don't want to have your kids separated from you, DONT BREAK THE LAW, cross into the US legally at a port of entry.
 

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This is Clintons legislature enacted in 97 I believe, he & Bush followed it, and Obama did more of it than anyone.

Now Trumps the bad guy?

The press is amazing in printing what they want you to hear without any counterstory.

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There'll come a day when those ripping children away from their parents at the border will say, "I was only following orders." And we know where we've heard that before.

Wow...are you seriously comparing Nazi genocide, the forcible rounding up and murdering of millions of innocent people with current attempts to stem the flow of illegal immigrants??

News flash, Jews were trying to ESCAPE Germany and Nazi occupied areas...illegals are trying to GET IN to the USA.
You may not have a clear view from your paddle board or from the helm of your formula while cruising around Tahoe, but the burden of illegals is crushing your glorious state.
It is completely possible for immigrants to legally come here, it’s just easier and more beneficial for them to not do it legally.
 

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This is Clintons legislature enacted in 97 I believe, he & Bush followed it, and Obama did more of it than anyone.

Now Trumps the bad guy?

The press is amazing in printing what they want you to hear without any counterstory.

UD

The Executive branch has the authority to prioritize which laws they focus on.

It is true that the administrations you mention did separate minor children from parents whom illegally crossed the border if such parents were engaged in additional criminal activity above and beyond the misdemeanor of crossing the border. Additional crimes such as human smuggling and drug transportation.

Those past administrations did not as a policy, implement what is now a "zero tolerance" policy whereas the separation of minor children from parents is done absent an additional crime.

Quite frankly, as a believer in the rule of law I have not problem with the executive branch making the decision to enforce all laws equally and fully. However they don't and as such, it is reasonable for people to speculate if the administration is sending a message with the choice to fully implement this law, yet let other federal laws slide?
 

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Every single tv news Channel refers to them as immigrants and not illegal immigrants fucking cracks me up God damn fucking media.

It is nothing more than trying to stack the deck to get votes in the future.... desperation at its finest
It's not just votes. The political lines are drawn by residents. So even if they don't vote, they increase the population for the democraps. More seats.

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GTFO of here GRADS, absolutely ridiculous.

Where is the outrage of children being ripped from their parents here in the US when the parent commits a crime and goes to jail?

How about that over 80% of the kids being trafficked into the US aren't even traveling with their parents....

You don't want to have your kids separated from you, DONT BREAK THE LAW, cross into the US legally at a port of entry.
What about just when the parent spanks their kid.

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illegals are trying to GET IN to the USA.

Technically, the "illegals" are trying to get back to the lands they occupied prior to the United States negotiation of the Oregon Treaty with Great Britain in 1846, and the conclusion of the Mexican-American War in 1848, and the signing and ratification of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo in 1848. :)

I wonder if America has ever been a strong advocate for returning native people to thier homelands over the objections of the then current inhabitants........maybe like from 1945 - 1948? It's on the tip of my tongue, I just can't remember what that was called....... :)

Consistency, the hobgoblin of simple minds.......
 

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There'll come a day when those ripping children away from their parents at the border will say, "I was only following orders." And we know where we've heard that before.
No children are being ripped away form their parents. Damn, you freaking tards are ridiculous. Like the US Border Patrol are grabbing these kids, tearing them away from screaming parents. LMAO. You tards are all fooled.
 

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The Executive branch has the authority to prioritize which laws they focus on.

It is true that the administrations you mention did separate minor children from parents whom illegally crossed the border if such parents were engaged in additional criminal activity above and beyond the misdemeanor of crossing the border. Additional crimes such as human smuggling and drug transportation.

Those past administrations did not as a policy, implement what is now a "zero tolerance" policy whereas the separation of minor children from parents is done absent an additional crime.

Quite frankly, as a believer in the rule of law I have not problem with the executive branch making the decision to enforce all laws equally and fully. However they don't and as such, it is reasonable for people to speculate if the administration is sending a message with the choice to fully implement this law, yet let other federal laws slide?
So you mean osamas policies. Glad you finally have seen some light.

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The Executive branch has the authority to prioritize which laws they focus on.

It is true that the administrations you mention did separate minor children from parents whom illegally crossed the border if such parents were engaged in additional criminal activity above and beyond the misdemeanor of crossing the border. Additional crimes such as human smuggling and drug transportation.

Those past administrations did not as a policy, implement what is now a "zero tolerance" policy whereas the separation of minor children from parents is done absent an additional crime.

Quite frankly, as a believer in the rule of law I have not problem with the executive branch making the decision to enforce all laws equally and fully. However they don't and as such, it is reasonable for people to speculate if the administration is sending a message with the choice to fully implement this law, yet let other federal laws slide?

You don’t know what other crimes they have committed, you DON’T know who these people are.....Also what about those that commit a felony when crossing? What’s the line where laws are enforced even if it mean “tearing” families apart.

Fact of the matter is, our border should become a militarized zone, what is going on with this free for all of crossings is nothing short of an invasion, an act of war.
 

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So you mean osamas policies. Glad you finally have seen some light.

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I mean all Presidents, where they pick and choose which laws they like and don't like yet still blather on about the importance of the rule of law and the Constitution, when in reality, they just want their way regardless of the rule of law or the Constitution.

And even worse, their blind followers who can not see the hypocrisy, because if it benefits them, it can't be hypocritical, it must be right lawful and consistent with the Constitution.......
 

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Technically, the "illegals" are trying to get back to the lands they occupied prior to the United States negotiation of the Oregon Treaty with Great Britain in 1846, and the conclusion of the Mexican-American War in 1848, and the signing and ratification of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo in 1848. :)

I wonder if America has ever been a strong advocate for returning native people to thier homelands over the objections of the then current inhabitants........maybe like from 1945 - 1948? It's on the tip of my tongue, I just can't remember what that was called....... :)

Consistency, the hobgoblin of simple minds.......

Lol.
That’s one hell of a spin even for you!
 

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Technically, the "illegals" are trying to get back to the lands they occupied prior to the United States negotiation of the Oregon Treaty with Great Britain in 1846, and the conclusion of the Mexican-American War in 1848, and the signing and ratification of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo in 1848. :)

I wonder if America has ever been a strong advocate for returning native people to thier homelands over the objections of the then current inhabitants........maybe like from 1945 - 1948? It's on the tip of my tongue, I just can't remember what that was called....... :)

Consistency, the hobgoblin of simple minds.......

Pretty sure anyone from the 1840s is long dead, so THEY, never occupied any of it...

I also believe that any Mexicans within the annexed territories given to the us by the treaty during the 1840shad been given the option to either move back to Mexico, or be granted US citizenship.

Sorry if your great great great grandfathers chose poorly 150 years ago....
 

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You don’t know what other crimes they have committed, you DON’T know who these people are.....Also what about those that commit a felony when crossing? What’s the line where laws are enforced even if it mean “tearing” families apart.

Fact of the matter is, our border should become a militarized zone, what is going on with this free for all of crossings is nothing short of an invasion, an act of war.


I know you will not agree or even take the time to look this up but I will make the futile attempt.

Simply unlawful presence is neither a felony nor a misdemeanor, it is a civil infraction that results in removal and a bar on re-entry for a certain period of time. Not everything that’s illegal is a crime. There are civil violations, like when you get a parking ticket. Unlawful presence is one of these. You don't go to jail or receive any other criminal punishment for being in the country illegally — you get deported.

Now, illegal entry is a crime. The illegal entry of non-nationals into the United States is a misdemeanor according to the Immigration and Nationality Act, which prohibits non-nationals from entering or attempting to enter the United States at any time or place which has not been designated by an immigration officer, and also prohibits non-nationals from eluding inspection by immigration officers. But it is not a felony.

Smuggling drugs, being a coyote, things like that are a felony, and those who engaged in those acts in addition to entering the country illegally, a misdemeanor, rightly had their children separated if they had their children with them.

The policy now, which is consistent with the Immigration and Nationality Act is to separate children from parents engaged in the misdemeanor of "entering the country". it is lawful. But it is also lawful and consistent to separate children from a parent whom is dying of cancer and is using Marijuana to ease the pain of Cancer.

The question, which my opinion does not matter as I am not in charge, is when is it that an administration uses its discretion on which laws to implement a zero tolerance policy and when is it they look the other way.

I got no dog in this fight, other than to point out some people want it both ways.
 

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People who don’t want to be separated from their children, shouldn’t do things that directly result in them getting separated from their children.





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Pretty sure anyone from the 1840s is long dead, so THEY, never occupied any of it...

I also believe that any Mexicans within the annexed territories given to the us by the treaty during the 1840shad been given the option to either move back to Mexico, or be granted US citizenship.

Sorry if your great great great grandfathers chose poorly 150 years ago....

My family illegally immigrated to America in the late 1800's. Just plopped ashore without nary a peep, health inspection or document. Never became citizens, just the rest of us due to the 14th amendment.

I'm the offspring of illegals.
 

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Technically, the "illegals" are trying to get back to the lands they occupied prior to the United States negotiation of the Oregon Treaty with Great Britain in 1846, and the conclusion of the Mexican-American War in 1848, and the signing and ratification of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo in 1848. :)

I wonder if America has ever been a strong advocate for returning native people to thier homelands over the objections of the then current inhabitants........maybe like from 1945 - 1948? It's on the tip of my tongue, I just can't remember what that was called....... :)

Consistency, the hobgoblin of simple minds.......

I think you should go foster one of these Illegal immigrant's children and put your money where your mouth is.
 

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Pretty sure anyone from the 1840s is long dead, so THEY, never occupied any of it...

I also believe that any Mexicans within the annexed territories given to the us by the treaty during the 1840shad been given the option to either move back to Mexico, or be granted US citizenship.

Sorry if your great great great grandfathers chose poorly 150 years ago....


So based upon your logic, what you are saying is that we should shut down all Indian reservations and casinos.........After all, no one who lives on a reservation or owns a casino on tribal lands were alive when the US took their land fair and square.
 

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It's not just votes. The political lines are drawn by residents. So even if they don't vote, they increase the population for the democraps. More seats.

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Let the gerrymandering begin!!
 

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I think you should go foster one of these Illegal immigrant's children and put your money where your mouth is.


I do, as do lots of people every day. You should see my landscaping, the detailed framing and the excellent tile work in my home...... :)
 

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The Executive branch has the authority to prioritize which laws they focus on.

It is true that the administrations you mention did separate minor children from parents whom illegally crossed the border if such parents were engaged in additional criminal activity above and beyond the misdemeanor of crossing the border. Additional crimes such as human smuggling and drug transportation.

Those past administrations did not as a policy, implement what is now a "zero tolerance" policy whereas the separation of minor children from parents is done absent an additional crime.

Quite frankly, as a believer in the rule of law I have not problem with the executive branch making the decision to enforce all laws equally and fully. However they don't and as such, it is reasonable for people to speculate if the administration is sending a message with the choice to fully implement this law, yet let other federal laws slide?


Trump is a terrible position here where the media can rail on him if he decides to comply or selectively enforce.

By him takin the zero tolerance road he can eliminate one set of complaints completely.

Given his own constituents want to be tough on immigration by complying with the law in a zero tolerance fashion he satiates his base.

Prior administrations picked and choose and took the relevant heat at the time for doing so

- but the main point here is that Clinton wrote the rules - not Trump, a fact his detractors seems to always leave out when attacking him.



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The Executive branch has the authority to prioritize which laws they focus on.

It is true that the administrations you mention did separate minor children from parents whom illegally crossed the border if such parents were engaged in additional criminal activity above and beyond the misdemeanor of crossing the border. Additional crimes such as human smuggling and drug transportation.

Those past administrations did not as a policy, implement what is now a "zero tolerance" policy whereas the separation of minor children from parents is done absent an additional crime.

Quite frankly, as a believer in the rule of law I have not problem with the executive branch making the decision to enforce all laws equally and fully. However they don't and as such, it is reasonable for people to speculate if the administration is sending a message with the choice to fully implement this law, yet let other federal laws slide?
Wheels up in ten!

TLFAU!

Good job!
 

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Trump is a terrible position here where the media can rail on him if he decides to comply or selectively enforce.

By him takin the zero tolerance road he can eliminate one set of complaints completely.

Given his own constituents want to be tough on immigration by complying with the law in a zero tolerance fashion he satiates his base.

Prior administrations picked and choose and took the relevant heat at the time for doing so

- but the main point here is that Clinton wrote the rules - not Trump, a fact his detractors seems to always leave out when attacking him.



UD

I agree that this policy can in no way hurt Trump as his supporters are his supporters and his detractors are his detractors and nothing will meaningfully change that.

This internal war in the US will remain as long as he is President.

Sometimes in order to make a rose bush grow better roses, you have to cut it to the ground.
 

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It's not just votes. The political lines are drawn by residents. So even if they don't vote, they increase the population for the democraps. More seats.

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My family illegally immigrated to America in the late 1800's. Just plopped ashore without nary a peep, health inspection or document. Never became citizens, just the rest of us due to the 14th amendment.

I'm the offspring of illegals.

We ran a completely relaxed immigration system all through the 1800s because the US government needed people to occupy and homestead, lay claim to, improve, and secure the vast amounts of land within the country. You're family came during a time where the government didn't need to worry about processing every single immigrant for citizenship, they were de facto begging for people to come during that time, and there were very little federal resources even applied to immigration, along with hundreds of other federal agencies that didn't exist either.

As the population grew, and available land shrunk, they began addressing and tightening immigration controls. During the 19th century and prior there was very little immigration period around the world compared to today, it just was what it was. There were few people, and lots of property, disputes about who could live and own land where were mainly handled locally. Times change.


And yes in many ways the Native American reservation system was a poorly conceived and executed concept. But guess what, it was done LEGALLY, through congress, so now it is what it is. People crossing the border illegally have no comparison to that, because they are explicitly breaking the law.
 

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I agree that this policy can in no way hurt Trump as his supporters are his supporters and his detractors are his detractors and nothing will meaningfully change that.

This internal war in the US will remain as long as he is President.

Sometimes in order to make a rose bush grow better roses, you have to cut it to the ground.
Wheels up again!

Good Job turdlicker, you ignore 8 years of the Talking Turd and 100 years of the left trying to destroy America and blame President Trump.

Fucking douche bag...
 

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And yes in many ways the Native American reservation system was a poorly conceived and executed concept. But guess what, it was done LEGALLY, through congress, so now it is what it is. People crossing the border illegally have no comparison to that, because they are explicitly breaking the law.

I'm sure the Native Americans, whose genocide by white europeans resulted in a population decline of 80 to 90 percent prior to the establishment of Reservations felt that it was an excellent, just and perfectly legal process.......

Back on topic, why doesn't Trump and his supporters just have the balls to say the truth; we're full, we got ours when we took it for you, now go away and die in your "shithole" where you live now.

Like I said, I have no dog in this fight as I purposely have no children, but these "rule of law" and "christianity demands it" arguments are absolutely laughable.
 

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We ran a completely relaxed immigration system all through the 1800s because the US government needed people to occupy and homestead, lay claim to, improve, and secure the vast amounts of land within the country. You're family came during a time where the government didn't need to worry about processing every single immigrant for citizenship, they were de facto begging for people to come during that time, and there were very little federal resources even applied to immigration, along with hundreds of other federal agencies that didn't exist either.

As the population grew, and available land shrunk, they began addressing and tightening immigration controls. During the 19th century and prior there was very little immigration period around the world compared to today, it just was what it was. There were few people, and lots of property, disputes about who could live and own land where were mainly handled locally. Times change.


And yes in many ways the Native American reservation system was a poorly conceived and executed concept. But guess what, it was done LEGALLY, through congress, so now it is what it is. People crossing the border illegally have no comparison to that, because they are explicitly breaking the law.

In that theft, assimilation, genocide can be legislated into law and or practiced with no retribution thats all pretty much true.

Thats not what happening here though......

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I'm sure the Native Americans, whose genocide by white europeans resulted in a population decline of 80 to 90 percent prior to the establishment of Reservations felt that it was an excellent, just and perfectly legal process.......

Back on topic, why doesn't Trump and his supporters just have the balls to say the truth; we're full, we got ours when we took it for you, now go away and die in your "shithole" where you live now.

Like I said, I have no dog in this fight as I purposely have no children, but these "rule of law" and "christianity demands it" arguments are absolutely laughable.

Why cant they be saying we were following the law? - Bill Clintons law.

Now if Trumps team change this which they actually may - they'll take it again from all sides.

Trumps opposition wants it both ways.

Im no fan boy or hater - but this is partisan based attack.

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Why cant they be saying we were following the law? - Bill Clintons law.

Now if Trumps team change this which they actually may - they'll take it again from all sides.

Trumps opposition wants it both ways.

Im no fan boy or hater - but this is partisan based attack.

UD


They certainly can and that is certainly what they are doing.

However, they are picking this one law to follow with zero tolerance while not doing the same with hundreds of thousands of other laws which is certainly their right as the Executive Branch.

At the end of the day, the Executive Branch makes these policy decisions all the time and because they are granted wide latitude on which laws to enforce and how they are enforced, and like it has always happed in the past, the debate gets opened up.

This one just happens to appear to be a wee bit more touchy than possibly some others.
 

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I'm sure the Native Americans, whose genocide by white europeans resulted in a population decline of 80 to 90 percent prior to the establishment of Reservations felt that it was an excellent, just and perfectly legal process.......

Back on topic, why doesn't Trump and his supporters just have the balls to say the truth; we're full, we got ours when we took it for you, now go away and die in your "shithole" where you live now.

Like I said, I have no dog in this fight as I purposely have no children, but these "rule of law" and "christianity demands it" arguments are absolutely laughable.
Dick bag, with all due respect, the United States was formed just like every single country on the planet, but you know that.


You one of those "Mythological Indians Were Peaceful Spiritual Human Beings" imbeciles?

They were stone age tribes with a rudimentary ability to utilize fire, no beasts of burden, slave masters, warriors, rapists, child murderers, hunter gatherers that would settle in a tiny area, defile it with human waste and detritus then pack up their meager possessions and odious brethren and move to their next human waste dump, rinse and repeat.

They fell off the evolutionary ladder way before the evil Europeans arrived.

Imbecile


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They certainly can and that is certainly what they are doing.

However, they are picking this one law to follow with zero tolerance while not doing the same with hundreds of thousands of other laws which is certainly their right as the Executive Branch.

At the end of the day, the Executive Branch makes these policy decisions all the time and because they are granted wide latitude on which laws to enforce and how they are enforced, and like it has always happed in the past, the debate gets opened up.

This one just happens to appear to be a wee bit more touchy than possibly some others.

Selective enforcement is the calling card of politicians at large.

In that - this guy is the same as all the others.

Agreed - kids make things touchy.

UD
 

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They certainly can and that is certainly what they are doing.

However, they are picking this one law to follow with zero tolerance while not doing the same with hundreds of thousands of other laws which is certainly their right as the Executive Branch.

At the end of the day, the Executive Branch makes these policy decisions all the time and because they are granted wide latitude on which laws to enforce and how they are enforced, and like it has always happed in the past, the debate gets opened up.

This one just happens to appear to be a wee bit more touchy than possibly some others.

Don't worry in two weeks the dems will fumble attention on this issue and it will just be another item added to the ever growing pile of news cycle trash :p
 

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Selective enforcement is the calling card of politicians at large.

In that - this guy is the same as all the others.

Agreed - kids make things touchy.

UD

Unfortunately we have gotten to the point that there are so many laws that selective enforcement isn't necessary, it's inevitable. The root of these problems lie with ever expanding legislation, rules, and regulations, there is not an infinite amount of resources to pursue them all, there isn't an amount to even pursue a fraction.
 

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Unfortunately we have gotten to the point that there are so many laws that selective enforcement isn't necessary, it's inevitable. The root of these problems lie with ever expanding legislation, rules, and regulations, there is not an infinite amount of resources to pursue them all, there isn't an amount to even pursue a fraction.

Makes me go back to what winston churchill said about for there to be any respect for the law there cant be 10,000 of them - ha! try half a million.
 

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Technically, the "illegals" are trying to get back to the lands they occupied prior to the United States negotiation of the Oregon Treaty with Great Britain in 1846, and the conclusion of the Mexican-American War in 1848, and the signing and ratification of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo in 1848. :)

I wonder if America has ever been a strong advocate for returning native people to thier homelands over the objections of the then current inhabitants........maybe like from 1945 - 1948? It's on the tip of my tongue, I just can't remember what that was called....... :)

Consistency, the hobgoblin of simple minds.......


And you certainly know of simple minds... You are so "correct" , you are stupid ...
 
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