Clear Bra:

TPC · May 11, 2020

Found a Clear Bra shop I liked and dumb luck just a few minutes away.
He had the 2020 GMC in his CAD and a CNC cutter for the material. A shop full of super high end cars excellent reviews galore.

I wanted Expel Ultra.
We used 3M on the Vette, but the shops we called all said 3M quality has since fallen, though now 3M is attempting a comeback, best to stick with Expel Ultra.

Leading edge of the hood and fenders, the chrome, lights, bumper and bumper trim.

CobraDave · May 11, 2020

Looks really nice. Should protect that painted bumper well. I also just got the XPEL and I’ll probably go back for the roof and A pillars.

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rivermobster · May 11, 2020

Have the 3M stuff on my Jetta. After many river trips, still looks good.

Paint on the hood is taking a shit though. Micro cracks in the clear. Sucks.

Havazoo · May 11, 2020

Anyone in Havasu doing this you'd recommend?

TPC · May 12, 2020

Havazoo said:
Anyone in Havasu doing this you'd recommend?

I dunno maybe the forum does.

Gelcoater · May 13, 2020

TPC said:
Found a Clear Bra shop I liked and dumb luck just a few minutes away.
He had the 2020 GMC in his CAD and a CNC cutter for the material. A shop full of super high end cars excellent reviews galore.

I wanted Expel Ultra.
We used 3M on the Vette, but the shops we called all said 3M quality has since fallen, though now 3M is attempting a comeback, best to stick with Expel Ultra.

Leading edge of the hood and fenders, the chrome, lights, bumper and bumper trim.

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periodically 3M has a quality issue. Trying to cut costs I’d assume.

Sometimes they pull it off, other times enough people bitch about it and they improve.
We had some issues in the past when they stopped producing tape in St. Paul, MN, started a new plant in Canada.
Eventually it slightly improved to the point people didn’t bitch as much, but was still sub par to the original.

They are still the only one producing a plastic fine line tape I can break gelcoat with. Other brands tend to go soft once material is on it, pulling it up and off it turns to consistency of a rubber band, before braking and snapping back into your work.

One of those hind sight deals. Wish I woulda been investing in 3M since I started working.
I probably wouldn’t be working today, lol.

TPC · May 14, 2020

Gelcoater said:
periodically 3M has a quality issue. Trying to cut costs I’d assume.

Sometimes they pull it off, other times enough people bitch about it and they improve.
We had some issues in the past when they stopped producing tape in St. Paul, MN, started a new plant in Canada.
Eventually it slightly improved to the point people didn’t bitch as much, but was still sub par to the original.

They are still the only one producing a plastic fine line tape I can break gelcoat with. Other brands tend to go soft once material is on it, pulling it up and off it turns to consistency of a rubber band, before braking and snapping back into your work.

One of those hind sight deals. Wish I woulda been investing in 3M since I started working.
I probably wouldn’t be working today, lol.

There was a book out a long time ago called.. I think,, "In Search of Excellence" I may have it mixed up with other articles but if I remember correctly it talked of companies that produce the best products and service.

If I remember, 3M was mentioned:
“3M perfected flat.” DVDs and CD’s never would have materialized until 3M contacted Phillips with the cure for their 89% mfg defects.

A 3M engineer just happened to be reading an article in Stereo Review Magazine that talked of Sony and Phillips problems developing and bringing CD's and DVD's to market.
He had the solution, went to 3M's board and they spotted him $2 Million to figure it all out, patent it all and license the rights and he did.

Friends with body shops showed me the difference between 3M products like abrasives, polishes and other companies. 3M was way ahead in quality and finish results.

They also talked of Frito Lay,, and on the level, 2 lesbians I was talking to that work for Frito Lay told me,,,,, but that's another thread for another time.

Chief Dave · May 28, 2020

TPC said:
Found a Clear Bra shop I liked and dumb luck just a few minutes away.
He had the 2020 GMC in his CAD and a CNC cutter for the material. A shop full of super high end cars excellent reviews galore.

I wanted Expel Ultra.
We used 3M on the Vette, but the shops we called all said 3M quality has since fallen, though now 3M is attempting a comeback, best to stick with Expel Ultra.

Leading edge of the hood and fenders, the chrome, lights, bumper and bumper trim.

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What's the name of he shop?

TPC · May 30, 2020

Chief Dave said:
What's the name of he shop?

http://www.valleyclearbra.com/

Fun Times · May 30, 2020

TPC said:
Found a Clear Bra shop I liked and dumb luck just a few minutes away.
He had the 2020 GMC
I wanted Expel Ultra.
Leading edge of the hood and fenders, the chrome, lights, bumper and bumper trim.

Just sort of wondering what would be the average cost to have this done on the 2020 GMC Denali's and also would it have any affects to any of the sensors, front view camera, etc. operations?
Thanks.

TPC · May 30, 2020

Fun Times said:
Just sort of wondering what would be the average cost to have this done on the 2020 GMC Denali's and also would it have any affects to any of the sensors, front view camera, etc. operations?
Thanks.

In 2009 we did our Vette in 3M and it was $600.
The 2020 GMC was $850.
No effect on the vital sensors nor components.

Loony Toon · May 30, 2020

Had mine done with 3M 2 years this month.
Everything from the front doors forward was covered plus the ceramic coating.
Excellent protection + easy Bug removal

Had Bra and Coating done at Private Collection Car Care in Glendale Ca.

CobraDave · May 30, 2020

It really depends on how much coverage you want. It can get really expensive. With my partial hood and fenders with everything else I did it was $360 or so. If I went full hood it would have been close to six. The bumper would have been 200 more.

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TPC · May 30, 2020

Loony Toon said:
Had mine done with 3M 2 years this month.
Everything from the front doors forward was covered plus the ceramic coating.
Excellent protection + easy Bug removal
Had Bra and Coating done at Private Collection Car Care in Glendale Ca.

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Yeah we just rolled in from a 3000 mile trip and the bugs rinsed right off.

TPC · May 30, 2020

GM is no longer putting it on the Dually rear wheel fender. Dan at the clear bra shop said unlikely you'll need it.
Just don't let anyone help you unload firewood in camp. One piece will surely hit the fender and re-painting that is an easy $1400 to do it right.
I know from experience.

Fun Times · May 30, 2020

TPC said:
In 2009 we did our Vette in 3M and it was $600.
The 2020 GMC was $850.
No effect on the vital sensors nor components.

Thank you and all the others that chimed in as well for the cost information.

In the earlier stages of thinking what more can be added to our newly purchased 2020 GMC 2500-HD all in part of a very big thank you goes out to @DuttonDave of Dutton Buick, GMC, Cadillac in Riverside Ca.

If anyone's beginning their searches for any of the 3 brands in the SoCal area or beyond, private message DuttonDave to start your RDP member special discount with no games attached including extended warranty or desired GM accessories at time of negotiation. https://www.duttonbuickgmc.com/

Bought 5/25/20,

spectra3279 · Jun 9, 2020

Damn, I was thinking of a different bra

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