Current Water level

[rmarion]

whats thoughts on when Wahweap pass opens??..


Just curious..


BITCHEN LAKE!!!

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

Looking like the weekend before the fourth if we hover around 1' or less a day. Possibly sooner for smaller vessels

 

[throttle]

Note; 3569 today 6/8/23

For me, that’s 33’ higher than my last visit in July ‘22.

 

[Boat 405]

As of 7:45 tonight water is 3572.1

Water in the cut should touch about 3577. So about 5 more feet to go. Then usable about 3581 to small craft. 3582-3583 to houseboats

 

[Angler]

6-16-23. Now the water elevation is 3575...

Water elevation link.

https://lakepowell.water-data.com/

 

[Justsomeguy]

I would say 3577 today or tomorrow. Last check was 3576.23. 6.77 feet to 3583 and the cut being open. At this rate that's about next weekend.

 

[Boat 405]

Waters should touch tonight or tomorrow morning!!!!!

 

[Boat 405]

3577.19 last time they touched. Lets go!!!!!!

 

[Boat 405]

New snow today in the San Juan mountains which directly feeds lake powell!!!

 

[Gramps]

I think either next Friday or Saturday we will see a small boat trying to go through the cut.

 

[Justsomeguy]

Anyone have an elevation update? The website hasn't been updated since Friday.

 

[FreeBird236]

Anyone have an elevation update? The website hasn't been updated since Friday.

They updated a little while ago, but I doubt it's accurate because they left out Saturday the 17th. 3576.82 is what they are saying, only .59 for Sunday.

 

[Justsomeguy]

They updated a little while ago, but I doubt it's accurate because they left out Saturday the 17th. 3576.82 is what they are saying, only .59 for Sunday.

Wonder if the sensors were acting up. @Boat 405 seems to have a different source. Maybe he will be here shortly to update us. It's also possible the snow amd cold slowed the flow.

 

[Gramps]

it seems like the data has been off for a fer days. they usually redo it a day or so after the screwup

 

[Boat 405]

Sometimes they leave out data or fix it a day later. I’m guessing that a lot of the information is automatically calculated and then somebody goes back and proof said. If you go to the USGS site for Lake Powell it has real time data.

 

[Boat 405]

Wonder if the sensors were acting up. @Boat 405 seems to have a different source. Maybe he will be here shortly to update us. It's also possible the snow amd cold slowed the flow.

I highly doubt a 16,000 drop in 24 hours. That would be like cutting the flow of water down through the lower river. Just for argument sake, typical water flow down to the lower river is anywhere from 6-10k cfs. Here we are talking about a 16k drop. Highly unlikely.

 

[Boat 405]

Lake Powell at Glen Canyon Dam, AZ

Monitoring location 09379900 is associated with a Lake, Reservoir, Impoundment in Coconino County, Arizona. Current conditions of Lake or reservoir water surface elevation above NAVD 1988 and Lake or reservoir water surface elevation above NGVD 1929 are available. Water data back to 2006 are...

waterdata.usgs.gov

 

[Justsomeguy]

I highly doubt a 16,000 drop in 24 hours. That would be like cutting the flow of water down through the lower river. Just for argument sake, typical water flow down to the lower river is anywhere from 6-10k cfs. Here we are talking about a 16k drop. Highly unlikely.

So why such a drop and no Calc on Saturday? I've read the sensors can act up sometimes? I really have not idea. Just seems off.

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

They screw up the water data tables all the time! Pisses me right off!



But seriously they eff it up once a week it seems

 

[Justsomeguy]

Good to know.

 

[throttle]

The cut is about to take on some water.

 

[cofooter]

Just saw this on the news, still a lot of water coming, crazy for this time of year.

 

[FreeBird236]

The cut is about to take on some water.

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5.48' for a safe crossing, and that's a day behind.

 

[throttle]

Just saw this on the news, still a lot of water coming, crazy for this time of year. View attachment 1244080

Once it really starts to melt, I feel we will be seeing a lot more water than previously predicted.

 

[steamin rice]

The cut is about to take on some water.

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Great shots! It's still so odd for me to see so much dirt around Castle Rock!

 

[cofooter]

Saw main ramp at Bullfrog just opened

 

[mesquito_creek]

Just think about what a Cat 651 and a D9 could have done to the cut when the water was 50 feet lower…. No dredging/hauling etc… just push it out both ends

 

[hallett21]

Just think about what a Cat 651 and a D9 could have done to the cut when the water was 50 feet lower…. No dredging/hauling etc… just push it out both ends

Other than money was there a reason they didn’t lower it?

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

Just think about what a Cat 651 and a D9 could have done to the cut when the water was 50 feet lower…. No dredging/hauling etc… just push it out both ends

Please save your logical ideas for a worthy topic


I vote Tony for park president!

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

Other than money was there a reason they didn’t lower it?

@mesquito_creek isnt park president

 

[mesquito_creek]

Other than money was there a reason they didn’t lower it?

I imagine red tape… army core of engineers probably has to over engineer pushing dirt down a slope. Environmental Assessment and environmental impact has to be done to line the pockets of the consultants. A lizard or something probably moved into the dry cut that has to be drowned not “relocated” by the D9 bucket…. Even though it’s cheaper to run the earthmovers when it’s high and dry it still is expensive and they shot their wad on the stateline aux ramp.

I am probably underestimating the amount of dirt to move regardless, but a couple operators on a pile of meth living out of some broken down RVs in warm creek could have got the job done over the last 2 years I imagine! Lol…

 

[hallett21]

I imagine red tape… army core of engineers probably has to over engineer pushing dirt down a slope. Environmental Assessment and environmental impact has to be done to line the pockets of the consultants. A lizard or something probably moved into the dry cut that has to be drowned not “relocated” by the D9 bucket…. Even though it’s cheaper to run the earthmovers when it’s high and dry it still is expensive and they shot their wad on the stateline aux ramp.

I am probably underestimating the amount of dirt to move regardless, but a couple operators on a pile of meth living out of some broken down RVs in warm creek could have got the job done over the last 2 years I imagine! Lol…

No different than CA deciding to work on Dams once the lakes were full. Not like they had 5-6 years to handle it when the lakes were down

 

[4Waters]

Waters should touch tonight or tomorrow morning!!!!!

What am I going to touch? Is she hot?

 

[Nanu/Nanu]

What am I going to touch? Is she hot?

No she... by your standards you wouldn't kick HIM outta the boat for eating Cheetos.

 

[4Waters]

No she... by your standards you wouldn't kick HIM outta the boat for eating Cheetos.

No orange or red in my boat

 

[throttle]

I came across this info and found it to maybe suggest that we could be seeing more water than previously predicted.


June 28, 2023

Let’s “spill” the details. This spring’s high runoff put the spillways to use at all three dams that make up the Aspinall Unit: #BlueMesa, #MorrowPoint and #CrystalDam. Located along the Gunnison River, each dam is as unique as its spillway.



Blue Mesa is a zoned earth fill embankment and its concrete spillway includes two massive radial gates, a concrete lined tunnel, flip bucket and stilling basin.



Morrow Point, the first thin-arch, double curvature concrete dam built in the United States, also has an interesting spillway that consists of four orifice-type openings in the top central part of the dam, providing a free-fall discharge higher than 350 feet.



Crystal Dam is a double-curvature thin-arch type and its spillway is an ungated ogee at an elevation of 6,756 feet.



While utilizing a dam’s spillway often offers spectacular views, it allows Reclamation crews to test various dam components and processes to ensure they operate as needed. These structures are part of the Colorado River Storage Project and the water will go downstream in the #ColoradoRiver system.



#1 – Approximately 3,400 cfs of water runs through the powerplant and 3,900 cfs through the spillway at Blue Mesa Dam on June 28. Taken by David Klien/BOR

#2 – Approximately 5,450 cfs of water runs through the powerplant and 2,050 cfs through spillways 1 and 4 at Morrow Point Dam on June 27. Taken by Jesse McCombs/BOR

#3 – Approximately 4,000 cfs of water runs through the powerplant and the jet gate and 3,500 cfs over the Crystal Dam Spillway on June 27. Taken by Grant Watson / BOR