Don’t let friends borrow your car

[Ziggy]

Taking it in for a quote now to a referred shop by him. (Legit shop)

Hope you guys can work something out.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Taking it in for a quote now to a referred shop by him. (Legit shop)

I am guessing $3600 from the pictures alone.

 

[overdue]

Is the “friend” staying at your house still ,,,,

 

[rivrrts429]

I am guessing $3600 from the pictures alone.

$3600 to learn a lesson that your friend isn’t a friend actually sounds fairly cheap. Often times that lesson is much more costlier like when they’re fuck’n your wife or embezzling money from your company

Actually I hope this guy comes through in the end but if it’s been a grind to this point I wouldn’t expect it to improve in any measurable way.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Quote came back from his recommended source at $4600. This is with aftermarket parts and discounted labor. No sales tax if cash. Cash price of 4300$

Car IMO is worth $4000 as it was before the crash. Maybe more in today’s market.

 

[c_land]

Lol kinda. He wrecked it. Let me know. Called his insurance. They said not our problem, so then now it’s my problem. It’s being towed to my house in Anaheim. Then need to go from there. I need to look at my insurance to see if I have collision or not. I don’t think I do.

He must have Mercury for Insurance

 

[DLC]

Tell your buddy to go for it! $4000 cash you’ll pick up the $300 as a lesson not to loan out shit!


oh hey can I borrow your enclosed trailer ? I have a trip to San Felipe Mexico…..

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Depending on your desire to maintain a friendship here, you may be better off finding another one, buying it, sell the wrecked one as scrap and have him cover the difference.

 

[Bpracing1127]

We’ll I’m wondering if I am going to get anything at this point. I have presented the solutions and now we are waiting.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

We’ll I’m wondering if I am going to get anything at this point. I have presented the solutions and now we are waiting.

I sure hope you do.
I've had a couple friends leave me hanging on money owed to me.
We all feel like we bring a lot to the table when it comes to friendships and when we find out some are willing to toss us to the curb over what's really chump change, it stings a little .

 

[LHC Kirby]

I've had a couple friends leave me hanging on money owed to me.

My Dad always told me two things, borrower or lender NEVER BE..... and if you lend/loan it, don't expect it to come back EVER.......if it comes back = bonus. By some dumb chance, you borrow something, be prepared to replace it with new if you screw it up.....

I think of that before doing either one. Typically it depends on the item, most times, I just buy instead of borrow.

My .02 worth

 

[Bpracing1127]

Brining this back up, been a week since the crash. Received a quote to fix it at $4600. Car is worth about $5500. Friend has “offered” 3600 plus he gets the car so he can fix and sell. I told him. 3600 doesn’t buy me a new car like the one I lent you. He said that is what KBB says it’s worth. I told him KBB is wrong like his truck.

A couple days goes by he has moved to 4000 and still wants the car. Again I told him that doesn’t replace my car. Said I’ll do the 4000 and I’ll pay the balance to get it fixed and we can move on.

To me he is making this difficult I lent him a $5500 car he crashed and now is refusing to pay me what it’s worth.

Ugggg

 

[sintax]

Brining this back up, been a week since the crash. Received a quote to fix it at $4600. Car is worth about $5500. Friend has “offered” 3600 plus he gets the car so he can fix and sell. I told him. 3600 doesn’t buy me a new car like the one I lent you. He said that is what KBB says it’s worth. I told him KBB is wrong like his truck.

A couple days goes by he has moved to 4000 and still wants the car. Again I told him that doesn’t replace my car. Said I’ll do the 4000 and I’ll pay the balance to get it fixed and we can move on.

To me he is making this difficult I lent him a $5500 car he crashed and now is refusing to pay me what it’s worth.

Ugggg

life lessons are rarely cheap.

Just be glad this one doesnt hang around for 18+ years.

 

[Bpracing1127]

life lessons are rarely cheap.

Just be glad this one doesnt hang around for 18+ years.

True, I sure hope it doesn’t

 

[rivermobster]

Brining this back up, been a week since the crash. Received a quote to fix it at $4600. Car is worth about $5500. Friend has “offered” 3600 plus he gets the car so he can fix and sell. I told him. 3600 doesn’t buy me a new car like the one I lent you. He said that is what KBB says it’s worth. I told him KBB is wrong like his truck.

A couple days goes by he has moved to 4000 and still wants the car. Again I told him that doesn’t replace my car. Said I’ll do the 4000 and I’ll pay the balance to get it fixed and we can move on.

To me he is making this difficult I lent him a $5500 car he crashed and now is refusing to pay me what it’s worth.

Ugggg

So why isn't he just paying the body shop bill? : scratchinghead:

 

[Bpracing1127]

So why isn't he just paying the body shop bill? : scratchinghead:

Good question. Best answer I have got is he doesn’t have the money. Also based on what he telling me the car is only worth 3600 in his mind

 

[rivrrts429]

Friendships are easy when everything is going well. True friendships are tested when there’s conflict.

Out of a crisis comes two things, opportunity & danger. The opportunity in this instance is that you may have just realized a cheap $4k lesson that this person is not your friend and never was. He’s just someone fun to be around when it’s convenient.

He’s also a manipulative little fucker that thinks he can decide the terms of the repair to the damage he created. Steer very far away from people like this.

 

[rivermobster]

Good question. Best answer I have got is he doesn’t have the money. Also based on what he telling me the car is only worth 3600 in his mind

Doesn't matter what it's worth. He's not an insurance company deciding to fix or total a claim...

He's the person who damaged your car, and now need to pay for his mistake.

The end.

 

[mjc]

Good question. Best answer I have got is he doesn’t have the money. Also based on what he telling me the car is only worth 3600 in his mind

well yeah it is only worth 3600 it's wrecked

 

[lbhsbz]

Did your friend not have insurance that covered him driving your car? If not, and if his final offer is all the $$ he has, take that and another $1500 worth of shit out of his garage/house. Then tell him to delete your phone number.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Did your friend not have insurance that covered him driving your car? If not, and if his final offer is all the $$ he has, take that and another $1500 worth of shit out of his garage/house. Then tell him to delete your phone number.

Lives in KY and his insurance doesn’t cover the repair. So getting shit out of his house likely won’t happen.

 

[Bpracing1127]

Friendships are easy when everything is going well. True friendships are tested when there’s conflict.

Out of a crisis comes two things, opportunity & danger. The opportunity in this instance is that you may have just realized a cheap $4k lesson that this person is not your friend and never was. He’s just someone fun to be around when it’s convenient.

He’s also a manipulative little fucker that thinks he can decide the terms of the repair to the damage he created. Steer very far away from people like this.

Whole lot of truth here

 

[Looking Glass]

Sometimes, it becomes less Stressful to just chalk it up to a Bad Lesson and then make Hard Rules to Never Loan Vehicles, Tools, ETC. and have a framed Picture of this Car in your Garage to reinforce this Rule, any time someone comes begging.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Whole lot of truth here

See if you can get him to $4500. If you can't take the $4k.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Brining this back up, been a week since the crash. Received a quote to fix it at $4600. Car is worth about $5500. Friend has “offered” 3600 plus he gets the car so he can fix and sell. I told him. 3600 doesn’t buy me a new car like the one I lent you. He said that is what KBB says it’s worth. I told him KBB is wrong like his truck.

A couple days goes by he has moved to 4000 and still wants the car. Again I told him that doesn’t replace my car. Said I’ll do the 4000 and I’ll pay the balance to get it fixed and we can move on.

To me he is making this difficult I lent him a $5500 car he crashed and now is refusing to pay me what it’s worth.

Ugggg

Accept this offer but do not put it in writing. Verbally on the phone.
Tell him to send a money order and when you have the $, add your part and take it to the body shop to get it fixed.

When he asks about his car, you're not sure what he's talking about.
The friendship is toast anyway. Might as well make yourself as whole as possible.

Of course doing this makes your word barely better than his but we tend to become what we surround ourselves with.
Demand better from your acquaintances going forward.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

Reading this I am sorry for you BP.
I am sure you know enough about him to have a good feel for what kind of $ he can raise. When you get to that number tell him to bring it to you.
Then, take it, and give him a receipt for it against the value of the repair. Make a note on the receipt that there is still an outstanding balance.
He is going to ask you "why are you putting all of this on paper, we are friends, I am doing the best I can to make this right" or some such B.S
Explain to him that this is simply business.
Tell him, "I am giving you a receipt for partial payment, I will keep a copy as well. Not that I expect you to make it right, but to remind me of this event the next time you call wanting to be my friend, and that I cannot afford to be your friend. I still have to get MY car fixed."
Then, fold up your copy of the receipt, and walk away as you block his contact number.
He wasn't your friend, sir. He was a user. Your number was up to be used, he used you, then he did what these folks do...shitty deal.
I probably went to 2-300 calls from guys like you who tried to help a "friend" and got bent over, just as you have been. Don't feel bad, you ain't the first he has screwed, and you won't be the last...but this IS the last time he will screw you if I read you right.

 

[lbhsbz]

Accept this offer but do not put it in writing. Verbally on the phone.
Tell him to send a money order and when you have the $, add your part and take it to the body shop to get it fixed.

When he asks about his car, you're not sure what he's talking about.
The friendship is toast anyway. Might as well make yourself as whole as possible.

Of course doing this makes your word barely better than his but we tend to become what we surround ourselves with.
Demand better from your acquaintances going forward.

Great idea, but instead of taking it to the body shop, put it on C-list for $1000....then he'll have $5K to go buy a replacement.

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

Great idea, but instead of taking it to the body shop, put it on C-list for $1000....then he'll have $5K to go buy a replacement.

I mostly agree with that.
It's an 18 year old Civic with 200,000 miles on it so the things a ticking time bomb but he seems to want to fix it.
$5K generally buys someone else's ticking time bomb so maybe he's on the right track.

 

[C_J_J_C]

Make it easy.
Sell him the car for the $4,000 he offered. Fill out the bill of sale and send in the release of liability.
After the dust settle decide if you still want to be friends.

 

[DLC]

Take his cash then sell the car !! take that and go buy something…. For $10,000 easy payment & last a long time…

tell your buddy it got towed & impounded for parking it on the street…. He’s in Ky what’s he going to say

mother in law has an acura 3.6 L she bought new…. Only been to Barona Casino 1,000 times shit you could provably say go to Barona and it would drive itself….

 

[DLC]

Great idea, but instead of taking it to the body shop, put it on C-list for $1000....then he'll have $5K to go buy a replacement.

That’s what I say….

 

[DLC]

This is what moms car looks like…. Blue ext tan int has a lovely smoke scent …. Pal mall’s. I’ll buy ya a pine tree or 6 to hang from the mirror!

 

[Bpracing1127]

This is what moms car looks like…. Blue ext tan int has a lovely smoke scent …. Pal mall’s. I’ll buy ya a pine tree or 6 to hang from the mirror!

Is it for sale?

 

[DLC]

It will be if we can get the pink from dad (father n law)

 

[CarolynandBob]

If he thinks it is only worth 3600 then take it and keep the car. Kick in the grand and get it fixed. Only being out 1K to find out that he isn't a friend is cheap. Unfortunately, I have paid a lot more than that to find out. Now we won't lend anyone money. It is a gift or the answer is no.

 

[CLdrinker]

2015 platinum f250

So he is broke lol.

 

[CLdrinker]

He must have Mercury for Insurance

Mercury would have covered with fraud. Right LOF

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Mercury would have covered with fraud. Right LOF

I wouldn’t know. I have actual good insurance so I don’t have Mercury problems.

 

[CLdrinker]

What’s this guys wife look like?

Tell her she needs to work off her husbands debt.

 

[CLdrinker]

I wouldn’t know. I have actual good insurance so I don’t have these problems.

Weird me either

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Weird me either

Must have graduated up from Mercury then

 

[Joe mama]

What’s this guys wife look like?

Tell her she needs to work off her husbands debt.

Depending on what she looks like it could take a long time to pay Debt

 

[nowski]

The one person who should really be pissed off in all of this is the guy that gave you the car, just my .02 cents...

I didn't see it mentioned but what did your buddy hit? Was there any property damage that you could be on the hook for?

As a Honda owner you failed to install the proper amount of down force to your vehicle creating an unsafe condition, your buddy may have some recourse here...

 

[ArizonaKevin]

if he wants to buy the civic from you for book vale, force him to sell you his truck at book value then flip it.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

if he wants to buy the civic from you for book vale, force him to sell you his truck at book value then flip it.

I said the same thing

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Dude it’s a $2500 car. I can only imagine what you are paying.

If it's insurance, why would you care. Legally, you can use whatever auto repair facility you want...why not choose wisely?

 

[nowski]

I haven't seen El Rojo on the boards here lately: He did a repair on my sons Mustang after he hit a semi truck tire carcass on the freeway a couple of years ago. Great job and reasonably priced, shop is in La Habra on Whittier Blvd...

 

[Cole Trickle]

This is where I always see it go bad. Mostly with young drivers that loan cars to a friend without there parents permission and the kid has zero clue what coverage is on the car. Parents didn't add comp/coll to save premium and it bites them.

Client didn't want to pay to have collision on the car but loaned out a car not letting the other party know if they crash they owe the market price. Almost nobody that would need to borrow a 5k car would have the funds to replace a 5k car if things go bad. It's one thing to say hey buddy you messed up pay the deductible but when we are talking 5-10K +++ in some of the situations i have seen it's always a friendship ender. I imagine if the car was hit and run by an uninsured motorist or side swiped and totaled while parked. Pretty hard to hammer a friend for the car when it's not there fault.

 

[Bpracing1127]

New update, we agreed on a 4600 price tag and he gets to keep the car. I think it’s an ok deal I’ll be out a grand or so but cost of being friends I guess. Not fully happy but like others said get it and move on. This is just a verbal agreement. Cash is not in my hand yet

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

New update, we agreed on a 4600 price tag and he gets to keep the car. I think it’s an ok deal I’ll be out a grand or so but cost of being friends I guess. Not fully happy but like others said get it and move on. This is just a verbal agreement. Cash is not in my hand yet

That is decent as long as the car is gone the day after transaction is complete.